Example of a Jeffersonian_transcript (TREVOR).

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>is it good<?
(addressed to person setting up video camera)
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yep
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okay
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so em::
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so you’ve
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got
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>the majority of the information anyway [I mean]< the ↑priority the most important
thing really is that em
[yea]
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obviously you can withdraw at any
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[time] (.) from this today
[yea]
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apa::rt from when it goes (.) on to the
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[internet]
[then it’s [too lat]e then yea] ha ha if your [in trouble you change your mind then ha
ha]
[yes]
[ha-ha-ha exactly]
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↑oh ↓oh [ha ha ha]
[but up until] that [point and] will we will
[yea]
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sort of tell you when that point’s [gonna be after] that we could
[that’s all right just won’t watch any of it]
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[yea::] (.) yea:: [maybe yea:: >I wouldn’t be able to watch] ↓mine<
[ha ha]
[ha ha ha ha ha ha]
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em:: but yea just let you know you can withdraw at any [point] and even during
[yes]
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today if you don’t feel comfortable with any of the [questions] obviously you can [just
say]
[mmhm]
[okay]
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INT: >that’s fine< but hopefully they are nothing too invasive=
STU: =okay yea=
INT: =lets hope it wont °xxxx°
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INT: >↑yo’d’you want any< do you want a drink of [water or (.) are you all right]?
STU:
[eh I’m okay thank you]
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INT: EM::: (.) and did Alasdair kind of tell you a bit about the [s:::tudy]?
STU:
[eh something is if eh::]
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STU: education like
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STU: some kind of education thing go
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INT: yea=
STU: =about teaching and eh helping teachers eh
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STU: [understand]
INT: [yea: basically] there’s not that there’s not that many teaching em:::
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INT: sort of
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INT: eh materials for:: looking at qualitative research
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INT: quite undervalued in
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INT: undergrad[uate]
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[yea]
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INT: em::
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INT: teaching you know on undergraduate [modules]: to do with psychology I think it’s
become
STU:
[yea]
INT: more and more popular
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INT: em::: so that’s why
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INT: Alasdair set this up really just to have a go a good kind of teaching
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INT: em
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INT: ha(h) eh material [you can] use
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INT: >teach people how to do qualitative< research and how to do interviewing
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STU: [>yea]
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INT: yea different types of interviewing and stuff so
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INT: ahh::
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INT: ↑yea that’s pretty much what its about
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STU: em=
INT: =yea and that’s what’s >gonna be made available< on-line (.) [so it can] be used by by
everybody
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[yea]
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INT: yea and then there’s gonna be a book (.) as well I don’t know if you’ve heard about
[that]
STU: [yea] he said some wa::: (.) other or something on it
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STU: else just like everyone when he
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STU: lectures so [when he mentions] stuff like eh Alasdair’s boring
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[right]
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INT: eh he(h) ha ha teach eh
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INT: so he men(h)tions some(h)thing new you trying to
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STU: [yea writing eh and your try(h) to eh (.) yea focus ye(h)a]
INT: [xxx to xx xxx right okay (.)your trying to take everything in]
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STU: and he goes off in a tangent and your like hang on [mmh xxx]
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[.h eh °yea°]
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INT: yea we really wha what the book
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INT: about is em its its (.) based on these interviews em and then each individual person
gonna write a chapter
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INT: about different qualitative research methodologies so
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INT: grounded theory eh interpretative phenomenological analys(h)is ha ha its called
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INT: .hhh em and then at each say each >individual< writes a chapter about different so its
basically a good kind of methodology metho methodological
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INT: on how to carry out different sorts of qualitative research so its really used for that
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INT: as well which is gonna be used for undergrad[duate]
STU:
[right]
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INT: research methods as well
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INT: so that’s what its about [really]
STU:
[rig]ht
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INT: Yep?
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INT: okay so I’m need just close this window cause xxx slight noisy its not
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INT: really too bad we’ve just got a massive
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INT: waste
(noise of closing window).
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INT: eh
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INT: uh:
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INT: truck
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INT: that’s [stopped outside] (.)↑Yea::↓ all good (.) timing
STU:
[eh good timing]
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STU: [xxx]
INT: [xxx]
(0.6)
INT: I think its quite quiet now there’s not students around has everyone gone [home]?
STU:
[well]
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INT: [xx pretty much]
STU: [en we have our] exams at the:: (.) beginning of ↑May so
(0.4)
STU: [so they’ve all finished xxx xxx ] (.)
INT: [right:: so back home time isn’t it]? [but] your obviously from Liver[pool]
STU:
[em]
[yea] I live [in]
INT:
[yea]
STU: just by the ((LOCAL PLACE)) (.) so:[:::] not to far for me to get [to]
INT:
[okay (.) nice]
[mmhm]
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STU: oh yea I’m I’m originally from here so
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INT: right (.) this is not too far for you to [travel] (.) so you don’t have to go home
[anywhere]
STU:
[yea]
STU: [no]
INT: cause your already [here] ha ha ha
STU:
[no]
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this is ho::me [a ha ha ha] around around [the city centre] so
[yea]
[around here]
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aw:: bri[lliant]
[mm]
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okay well like I said em::
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yea (.) basically: you know any questions or any any (.) anything you wanna kinda
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°you know°
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eh:: say or if you want a break or anything [just just tell me] and we can stop the
recording
[yea okay]
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an that’s fine
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okay=
=does that sound [alright?]
[that’s great] thank you
(0.4)
okay so as you know this this (.) >this project is about< friendship
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em I want you to think about one of your ↓friends: (.) and can you tell me how you
became
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friends with this ↓person
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eh::
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he’s on top of my uh
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best friend I suppose uh
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I was a
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I was working as a fitness in↑structor (.)°for the°
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council and he was er uh
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he was a customer >an he< (.) he used to ↑come in like every day so we just eh
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its what
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its about twelve ↑years ago
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and eh::
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and we just got to know each other an then like he came on a few of the staff nights
out and then eh
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an eh were still friends ↑now (.) an that although I’m m m
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not a fitness instructor cause
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I got ill:: an
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you know we
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you know (.) I hope always (.) stay friend:::s eh
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[okay::]
[there are so] we’re still good friends::: eh
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↑although he he lives in Runcorn now
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I still live in Liverpool and I would eh
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post to us or speak to you on the phone:: an
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see each other like
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once a month twice a month
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for a night out talk
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uh okay
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and does he tend to go to Liverpool or d’you [tend to] go to:
[eh put]
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Runcorn=
=if we g go for a night out he tends to come over here and he’ll stay in my’ome and
four xxx xxx
(0.2)
but he lives like in the middle of nowhere↑ we tend to go [where an xxx] it’ll be like
house party or a barbeque so we’ll stay over there an
[eh::::n]
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ri[ght::]
[if we’re having] a night out he’ll come over here cause the:::
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he prefe::rs like Liverpool cause
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it’s where we always used to go when we were younger anyway
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INT: and bit more going on [in Liverpool] as [well]
STU:
[yea]
[mmhm]
(0.2)
INT: ye[a]
STU:
[yea] I think it might be the memories when we were young and mad as [well (.)
ha ha ha]
INT:
[ha ha ha
ha]
(0.2)
STU: and ha:::ir an:: [ha ha ha ha]
INT:
[ha ha ha ha]
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INT: .hh
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INT: >there’s quite a< there’s quite a nice [variation] as well I guess isn’t it so you’ve got
kinda your place
STU:
[yea]
INT: over here or you [can]
STU:
[yea]
(0.5)
INT: have a bit more of a party
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INT: and then his place:: in the middle of nowhere but [you can] still have
STU:
[yea]
(0.2)
INT: like mates [around]
STU:
[go round] play on his Wii and [stuff an]
INT:
[yea hu ha]
(0.2)
INT: barbeque an
(0.2)
STU: yea it it’s nice it’s good (.) good good friendship y’know it’s good to have a friend
that you know you can always
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STU: turn to an that [y’know eh]
INT:
[mm::]
(0.4)
INT: yu if you pick if he picks up the phone like an now you know
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STU: I’ll be there an like
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STU: vice versa so
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INT: yea:
(0.2)
STU: lucky in that sense so
(1.6)
STU: you know (.) best friend like Tom so
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INT: ye[a]
STU:
[its] why he springs to mi:nd cause he’s he’s more like a brother↑
(0.2)
STU: relationship that a friendship I suppose
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STU: ach you know when you get that really
(0.2)
STU: close friend (.) and [given that] you know all each other’s things an stuff
INT:
[yea]
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INT: mmhm
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STU: you know
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INT: an an does that does that differ (.) em from your ↑other friendships that you’ve got?=
STU: =eh
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STU: I’ve got I’ve
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STU: I’ve got lots of frien::ds but
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STU: best friends Tom’s probably like
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STU: best friend cause he’s he’s got come to be me best man I’m planning on getting
married two thousand and ten so
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STU: [I’ve been a he’s like] the
INT: [ah eh okay]
(0.3)
STU: the best man type of
(0.4)
STU: friend and I’m just like
(0.2)
STU: other friends you know but
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STU: like
(0.5)
STU: friends that blokes friends that are gi::rls that are (.) friends you can talk to them but
(0.5)
STU: you know you’ve just like different
(0.3)
STU: almost you have like friends where you wo::rk
(0.4)
STU: [now and I’m xxxx] build relationships like in University an wo::rk an
INT: [mmhm]
(0.4)
STU: so they’re sort of friends but eh yu you know you have
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different types of frie::nds
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>d’youse< know what I’m [say::ing like] as
[yea different groups] an [like xxx relationships]
[yea like different relation]ships
some are more like family [and] some are people you go out and have a drink with
[mm]
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no somebody else will
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some you’ll see like in a wo:::rk relationship and
(0.3)
yea
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yea=
=yea
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so what what kind of (.) em:: so you’ve been friends with Tom for twelve years=
=yea
this friend
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em::
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and
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what what kind of things would you do together to yea sort of pass the ti::me what
kind of=
=yea
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↑eh:
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we’d play golf:: eh
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eh
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poo::l
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bow::lin
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mm=
=eh
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now when we see each other (.) na we we used to play eh
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when we were young before we’d go
(0.3)
xx club xx he’s married now (.) my ad um
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STU: and >I’m engaged< an
(0.3)
STU: marry her (.) when we were living at home like and that it was eh
(0.3)
STU: it was different >it would< it would be like Friday Saturday an Sunday an
(0.3)
STU: now we like we play golf couple times a week where as you grow up an you get all
the commitments=
INT: =mmhm=
STU: =and I think (.) things change but we still get the odd game of golf em:
(0.7)
STU: like ↑work commitments like he’s he’s working like he runs his own business now so
I mean
(0.4)
STU: your commitments are different so its hard to try you know
(0.3)
STU: you can’t just decide >oh I’m gonna fo gonna play golf< couple times this week an
(0.3)
INT: yea::=
STU: =and stuff so
(0.6)
STU: and like the weekend when I’m like you sort out spending time with your partner and
em cause you haven’t seen
(0.5)
STU: they cause they’re working or out an that so you don’t really feel like saying
(0.2)
STU: aw I’m just gonna I’m just gonna leave you for four hours and go and play golf and
(0.2)
INT: yea:
(0.3)
INT: yea you want to spend more time=
STU: =yea
(0.2)
INT: time with your partner=
STU: =yea
(0.3)
INT: yea
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INT: so is that em (.) so you feel li like the the activities that that you do to get the have (.)
changed since since you’ve known each other
(0.3)
STU: They have changed we’re lucky eh even (.) mi my partner and his partner they get on
really well so
(0.2)
INT: [mm:]
STU: [I mean]
(0.3)
STU: like (.)they can have girlie night and
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STU: ah um
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STU: we can go off like eh (.) to the pub or something or
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STU: now so so so it work works quite well so
(0.2)
INT: yea=
STU: =and for eh
(0.5)
STU: I think for quite a lot of it we just like to have barbeques now sitting around drinking
[rather than] going out
INT: [°ha ha ha°]
STU: down the [slow xxxx xxx]
INT:
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.9)
INT: [that’s age for you eh::]
STU: [for we did we used to] (.) and you get older and your fin::d that it takes three of four
days to recover and its just like no
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INT: yea::[ha ha ha] ha ha ha
STU:
[don’t want a hangover]
(0.2)
INT: .hh can’t cope with that [much] to [di:]
STU:
[yea]
[especially] if you
(0.3)
STU: when you’re wo::rking the next day or [something its just] like oh I won’t mhm and
you just wanna die::=
INT:
[mmhmm]
(0.2)
INT: [yea:: ha ha]
STU: [it’s it’s all right] when your before twenty one and you know
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STU: you di >you just don’t get<
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STU: you just don’t get hung↑over and then (.) you know
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STU: after twenty one each year slowly gets worse I find
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INT: yea (.) [yea]
STU:
[mhm]
(0.2)
STU: either that or or I’m drinking more mhm [eh ha ha ha ha]
INT:
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.3)
INT: .hhh so would you say that think that the (.) the (.) the activities you do together as
friends now::
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INT: tend to be sort of mo::re
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INT:
STU:
STU:
em relaxed::
(0.8)
[yea]
than [than] what you used to [previously] in terms of [like say drinking after xxx xx]
[yea]
[def definitely more that’s for
sure] when a
(0.2)
eighteen nineteen an that we’d go
(0.4)
go ous go about
(0.4)
seven o’clock at night we’d go till two three o’clock in the morning an=
=mmhm
(0.2)
like eh
(0.4)
I’ve ave
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I I’d got a a i::ll eh (.) I’ve got M E so
(0.3)
[okay]
[like I] was different pe::rson before so
(0.3)
I could I could go all night I’d be like dancing from eight o’clock at night till three
o’clock in the mor::ning like a foo::l an
(0.3)
yea=
=whereas now like an xxx
(0.4)
you know u:: (.) just go out
(0.2)
prefer to go to restaurants and sit there and talk:: and then you know go to a club
afterwards and
(0.5)
[okay]
[I just] spend a few hours there:: an
(0.6)
we ↑[like to go somewhere where we tal::k I su::
(0.4)
don’t know don’t know if it’s an a::ge thing but
(0.4)
yu did (.) you didn’t ta::lk so much when we were young we just go out and we stand
there and have a drink an
(0.4)
[yea]
[but now] I couldn’t xxx
(0.3)
dunno if its >cause we don’t see each other< as much we [(.) had to] go out and catch
up an
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INT:
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(0.7)
STU: ta::lk
(0.4)
INT: [yea]
STU: [like old men] with our with out ↑pints and [we ha ha ha ha]
INT:
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.2)
STU: put the worl::d to [rights:]
INT:
[ha ha]
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INT: .hh does you think it do you think it (.) then::
(0.4)
INT: cause it sight sounds like you say you activities you do together have changed [so]
STU:
[yea]
(0.2)
INT: from going kinda
(0.2)
INT: clubbing and partying (.) obviously seeing each other a lot [more prob]ably then
STU:
[yea]
(0.4)
INT: so no::w more relaxing and talking
(0.4)
INT: d’you think that em:::
(0.5)
INT: it was:: (.) your illness that that changed those activit::ies↓ or d’you think its just
(0.2)
INT: the ↑a::ge or the circumstance or or (.) or it’s the location cause your
(0.5)
INT: because you moved awa:y from each other d’you
(0.2)
INT: what what what what d’you think had the biggest
(0.5)
INT: impact on
(0.2)
INT: [change]
STU: [on me yea] (.) I think
(0.5)
STU: things
(0.2)
STU: getting ill or I (.) I lost ma jo I got
(0.3)
STU: I got fired from my job [cause] (.) cause I worked for the cou::ncil
INT:
[okay]
(0.6)
STU: eh
(0.4)
STU: and then a:d to come to terms wiv
(0.2)
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STU: being
(0.8)
STU: I was one I was
(0.4)
STU: cam fifth in Britain’s fittest ma::n
(0.4)
STU: just before I got ill so I went from being fit to
(0.3)
STU: this so I ha::d to come [to be]
INT:
[mmhm]
(0.2)
STU: terms with my life again but
(0.3)
INT: yea=
STU: = like I had
(0.3)
STU: you know you loose a lotta friends when [that happens] you know people that you
trai::n with
INT:
[mmhmm]
(0.3)
STU: that’s why I say Tom’s a really good frien::d cause you know
(0.5)
STU: he
(0.6)
STU: he respected as if xx what was going on and he was there to support me but he wasn’t
in my fa::ce so
(0.2)
INT: yea=
STU: =I don’t think for me now
(0.4)
STU: >good to< I just had to grow and cha::nge but I think that a:: ge affects it
(0.4)
INT: yea=
STU: =as well an::
(0.5)
STU: I think when you settle dow::n and your in a relationship an
(0.3)
INT: yea:=
STU: =you
(0.3)
STU: you know like eh
(0.4)
STU: you know your part::ner sort of becomes your bu your best friend like his wife will be
his best friend and like (.) Stephanie’s like
(0.2)
STU: I suppose you’d say my proper best friend now cause
(0.4)
STU: you’re the::re together all the time an you talk and you share stuff and=
INT: =yea
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STU:
STU:
INT:
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INT:
STU:
STU:
STU:
(0.2)
you know (.) although you know you talk to your friends about some things you
wouldn’t
(0.2)
say that you wouldn’t sha::re with your partner and stuff so
(0.3)
yea
(1.8)
okay
(1.0)
em
(0.4)
so ↑how how how about other friends I mean do you do similar (.) thing::s with other
friends=
=eh::
(0.4)
yea I go out (.) spread my xxx xxx ai::r
(0.4)
eh (.) go out for a meal eh (.) or (.) go for a (.) drink around tow::n and
(0.9)
and at wo::rk
(0.4)
eh m To Tom’s still the person I will sit there till four o’clock in the morning eh::
(0.6)
to ha uh ha put the wor::ld to rights with but wh when I go out like (.) it’s a
(0.4)
I tend to eh:
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still get up an
(0.8)
make a fool out of myself and dance and
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mm but eh
(1.2)
its:: like some friends and I used to see like em
(0.2)
like eh
(0.2)
like Univer::sity and stuff and you know
(0.5)
and:: you don’t you don’t really go for a drink with em and stuff so there’s eh=
=mmhmm
(0.4)
so that’s nice as well you just go for a coffee an
(0.5)
stuff and that cause eh
(1.4)
no its its its its a nice xxx its just xx thin:::g
(0.4)
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STU: you (.) you know you
(0.5)
STU: not gonna get hango::ver or anything like [ha ha ha ha]
INT:
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.4)
INT: your safe in [that knowledge] that coffee over here [yea]?
STU:
[mm yea]
[yea]
(0.5)
INT: yea so there kinda slight sort of slightly different things than you [do with] other
friends yea
STU:
[yea]
(0.3)
INT: .hhh em
(0.6)
INT: so you say you’ve got different groups of friends so you’ve got University pe people
you met at [University↓ ]
STU:
[yea]
(0.6)
INT: eh::: and then you’ve got work colle::a[gues]
STU:
[yea]
(0.4)
INT: em
(0.5)
INT: is there any is there anyone else i in that in that partic in the particular group of friend
that your
(0.3)
INT: that your close to?
(0.6)
STU: eh::
(2.1)
STU: no I >did have another best friend< but eh I’d known him for a long ti:me but eh
(0.3)
STU: he started taking drugs and he changed so em we haven’t well
(0.2)
STU: we e:: xxx gone through it
(0.5)
STU: like I was to ill to be my friends eh best man so I was meant to be the best man an I let
him down a week before the wedding
(0.4)
INT: oh [eh::]
STU:
[every]thing then
(0.3)
STU: wi we tried to be friend carry on being friends you know but he cha::nged so much
that eh
(0.7)
INT: ri[ght::]
STU:
[you] know eh::
(0.8)
STU: I had to walk away::
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STU:
INT:
INT:
INT:
INT:
(0.6)
aw okay so so you so he started (.) taking [drugs] before before th his [wedding]
[yea]
[yea]
(0.5)
and then you couldn’t be his best [man because] of the
[yea mhm]
(0.2)
[because of your illness] (.) [and] how did how did he react to that
[ yea I was too ill]
[yea]
(0.3)
eh
(0.6)
↑oh it ↑was a horrible situation cause I cause I ended up having to tell my friend I did
(1.2)
me other frien(h)d ha ha ha an be his best man an
(0.4)
I felt I felt worse and I was like
(0.2)
look if you really need someone to do it I’ll do it and he was like no:: you can’t do it
your too ill an
(0.4
[mmhmm]
[it it was just a] nightmare an
(0.8)
yea:: and how did that make you feel [know knowing] that you couldn’t
[eh::]
(0.2)
[couldn’t be the °best man for him°]
[oh and you feel crap and that] cause especially when you’d eh
(0.8)
know you’re close friends cause you’d feel you you to be sort of in the middle cause
(.) you know like cause you’ve got two best frien::ds an was like
(0.3)
hang o(h)n ha (.) you know phe ha
(0.3)
ha
(0.2)
[yea absolutely]
[what do you do] hmhph
(0.2)
yea::: so and then
(0.3)
so
(0.4)
em what what do you feel that changed then after that incident well not being able to
be best man what how d’you feel that
(0.3)
.hh that changed your friendship?
(0.6)
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STU: eh:::
(1.8)
STU: I don’t re::
(0.5)
STU: I don’t ↓know mean just eh:
(0.2)
STU: you know eh
(0.5)
STU: Jim he you just eh
(0.3)
STU: he just kept getting worse and worse and more selfish and selfish and
(0.3)
STU: [he was] saying nasty things about (.) my friends eh
INT: [mhm]
(0.5)
STU: wife behind her back an
(0.4)
STU: like and that an
(0.2)
STU: you know and then he used to come to my friend saying stuff about me like trying to
play us off an
(0.7)
STU: like I >didn’t say anything< (.) I was just like (.) you know
(0.5)
STU: I’ve had enough
(0.2)
STU: [my friend] carried on an he’s like
INT: [mmhm]
(0.2)
STU: well you got to make an effort so I made the effort and each time it was just like your
getting more and more
(0.3)
STU: let dow::n I was just like you know there’s no point=
INT: =yea
(0.2)
STU: and that was it you know you xxx
(0.6)
STU: and it start effecting
(0.3)
STU: you an (.) per::sonally an how you fee::l and
(0.9)
INT: [yes]
STU: [cause] people do change over ti::me an
(0.2)
INT: yea
(0.2)
STU: you know events and life affects people so you
(0.7)
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STU: no its its understandable but when you get to a certain point where you think hang on
this is
(0.2)
STU: its just not wor::king=
INT: =mm
(0.5)
STU: ss
(0.5)
STU: suppose like you know when you had em (.) bad relationship in the past you know
and it comes to the time when you say hands [up] you know
INT:
[mm]
(0.2)
STU: not not doing me eh:: (.) any good you gotta
(0.2)
STU: >you gotta< walk away:
(0.2)
INT: yea
(0.5)
INT: how how when when d’you think you know when that points is (.) [would you say?]
STU:
[yea]
(2.3)
STU: eh when you start getting angry about it I’d say and you know you know and it it
(0.3)
STU: it can have
(0.3)
STU: s’more bad things than positive things [about it]
INT:
[mmhm]
(0.2)
STU: [of of a] relationship an its just like
INT: [mmhm]
(0.3)
STU: >you know<
(0.4)
STU: he
(0.3)
STU: its just like hang on he’s really
(0.7)
STU: making hay may hay hate him and its just like
(0.2)
STU: no
(0.4)
STU: when you start feeling like that you know it’s a bad place to go so
(0.5)
STU: I mean
(0.2)
STU: I think its better to walk away than
(0.8)
STU: keep getting hu::rt an you know an (.) getting into (.) fights and arguments an s
(0.6)
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STU: [life’s] too short for that
INT: [yea]
(0.4)
INT: so you kinda weigh up
(0.3)
INT: the think [kind of negatives and positives] in that in that [sense when] it becomes
more detrimental to you::
STU:
[pros and cons]
[yea]
(0.5)
INT: that’s [when you] think it’s time to to [walk away]
STU:
[yea]
[cause when its] affecting your friends and your
[relationship with] other people as well an
INT: [mmhm]
(0.7)
INT: yea::
(0.5)
STU: naw >you gotta gotta< (.) s:uppose it’s like the greater good you gotta take everything
into consideration and an=
INT: =mmhm
(1.2)
STU: you just harra make the choice sometimes choices in life aren’t easy but I mean you
know
(0.8)
STU: you have to make them
(0.4)
INT: absolutely so how’d
(0.2)
INT: how did you go about then
(0.3)
INT: em (.) ending that friendship?
(0.3)
INT: in that sense
(0.4)
STU: eh::
(2.4)
STU: dunno it wa it was weird the levels xxx xxx
(0.2)
STU: past the last year I was eh taking ah
(0.4)
STU: a friend and and his wife out to dinner
(0.6)
STU: in it cause they had taken myself to dinner a few times cause I’d become a student an
all
(0.2)
INT: yea=
STU: =wasn’t wor::king so I was oh like ah like a thank you for you know
(0.4)
STU: you know (.) look helping us out an stuff so
(0.3)
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STU: >he was just like<
(0.3)
STU: xx a xxxx
(0.3)
STU: I’m coming along an I was like (.) yea de I said this this dinner is y’know
(0.5)
STU: eh a thank a thank an havin a going out another date for my birthday an
(0.3)
STU: I just felt he was being abusive to me so I just like oh
(0.3)
STU: I tell you what
(0.4)
STU: forget it an
(0.5)
INT: [right]
STU: [I’m no(h)] eh >I was like I was like< don’t don’t don’t call me we’ll call you I was
just like
(0.3)
STU: the fact that I was that I was
(0.4)
STU: that was it an
(1.1)
STU: no
(0.7)
STU: he
(0.4)
STU: but I think I think he got the message that I were just
(0.7)
STU: had enough
(0.2)
STU: nothing at all in my voice an
(0.6)
STU: that haven’t bothered
(0.4)
STU: calling him and he hasn’t called me so
(0.2)
INT: okay
(0.4)
STU: that’s not definitely not friendship it was eh
(0.4)
STU: I always think it was sad cause it all
(0.7)
STU: known him since I was eh
(0.5)
STU: sixteen in ↑college [so I mean it was] it was a long (.) [it was a long eh]
INT:
[okay]
[you’d know him] for [a long time]
STU:
[old friendship an]
(0.2)
STU: so we hadn’t
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INT:
INT:
STU:
INT:
INT:
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STU:
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INT:
STU:
STU:
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INT:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
STU:
(0.4)
di di did [but he’d changed] so much into someone I didn’t recognise any more an
[mmhm]
(0.4)
ye[a:::]
[an that that] (.) that’s the problem with him
(0.5)
yea
(0.7)
yea:
(0.8)
and em
(1.6)
and then
(0.2)
you you sort of mentioned that you know not not being able to be best best man
(0.5)
you felt had some impact on the relation[ship]
[yea]
(0.2)
.hh did this coincide with him (.) him taking
(0.7)
drugs as [as we::ll]
[I think that’s what I eh he went to Australia earlier
(0.8)
and an: (.)°mphm°
(0.2)
that’s when our relationship bit eh [change it] was (.) eh few years ago two thousand
and three
[mmhm]
(0.5)
um
(0.3)
like
(0.3)
for us pu (.) I I started going out with eh
(0.8)
Stephanie my partner an
(0.5)
eh
(0.5)
like he was always like
(0.7)
oh:: you gonna go up on Saturday you coming out it was like ho::me
(0.3)
I’m wi Stephanie an
(0.5)
you know I’d when I’d want when I was like eighteen I was like are you coming out
and he’d like (.) oh I can’t come out I’ve got no pants cle::an and stuff like [that an]
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TREVOR
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STU:
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STU:
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okay
eh and this sorta changed like when I when I when I got a relationship he wanted to
go out all the time I was like
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[hang on] you know ha ha
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yea:
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>don’t know< and then he went to Australia little but I think he started dabbling with
drugs and stuff over ther::e (.) with some of his friends an
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you know (.) I kept on
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[mmh]mm
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=yea
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s’only so much you can
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yea (.) absolutely so you feel like
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(0.2)
for him [became he] felt like he didn’t [have]
[yea]
[yea] before he felt he probably felt hurt like
(0.3)
and he Trev us Trev was always there you know just give him a call and he’d be on a
Saturday night and I’d be like uh
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hang on you know
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some night I was a wassa
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[yea]
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start (.) settling down anyway
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=yea
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=yea
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ye[a]
[m]
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an eh absolutely
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em
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so that so em::
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em how how long how long can you imagine staying friends with Tom for
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probably be friends forever me and Tom an
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but eh some we’ve had our eh
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we’ve fallen out eh an you know as mates (.) as family do an that
(0.2)
[we’ve had] ar::guments we’ve disagreed and stuff an that but
[yea]
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STU: don’t know if its my life an like eh he’s he’sees his like
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STU: yea yea we’re a bit were a bit stupid an you know we’ve just sort of like [put up our
hands an]
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STU: [cat and] carried on an
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lots of training
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INT: [mmhm]
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STU: like a lot lot of my friends
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STU: stopped being friends and all the fitness instructors that were friends with were just
like=
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STU: the sort of
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STU: slo slowly and slowly and that you might be contacting them and like you know (.) its
stu get its getting longer and longer for them to contact you back [and its jut like]
INT:
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STU: oh you know they’re not really
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STU: from
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STU: like that eh
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STU: a community sense of
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STU: you know you’ve
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tie:: I suppose
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I was just gonna ask you why why
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why d’you think then that
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that
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wor::k
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=and then like you say someone like Tom whose a very close friend
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who stuck by you when you got ill
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em::
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what what what d’you think is different within those those those two sort of
friendships that makes: (.) Tom more long stan[ding if you like]
[yea (.) I think] with eh
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Tom is eh
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I was like his instructor an I helped him lose weight an=
=mmhm=
=you know I
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I helped him when he was going through a bad [time so:]
[mmhm]
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you know and em he’s helped helped me an
(0.3)
whereas other frie:nds and that you know
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they’re your friends cause you see them every day and your training and your doing
stuff [but]
[ye]a
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I think cause I went
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outside of them all although I wasn’t there like (.) six seven days a week train::ing
with them an
(0.5)
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=you know
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↓aw I’d left the group kin:d of thing if you understand what=
=yea
(0.2)
so its almost [like] you’ve got just that one thing in common with [those] people
[mhm]
[yea]
whereas with somebody that your
(0.6)
closer to you’ve got [(.) mo::re things]
[you’ve got all those tie:s]
(0.2)
yea
(0.2)
cause I mean
(0.3)
training with people (.) an you know going out for a drink with them ssus stuff
(0.2)
its like a
(0.3)
a social thing more I suppose suppose like the bond was the train::[ing an] working
with
[mmhm]
with these people
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you know
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like when you go outside them all and you know you
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you know like when your deployed to another depa::rtment its just like
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oh he’s he’s not with us anymo::re an=
=yea
(0.8)
cause I went from being a fitness instructor
(0.5)
I was off for a year an that an end of pe
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come back and work in eh en mackin in the management office (.) of
(0.7)
the accounts of the sports centre so it was like [it was one] of them as well eh
[right okay]
(0.4)
oh he’s not one of us any more he’s he’s with the managers an
(0.3)
type of thing an [you know how] people get its like its like
[right]
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STU: you know he’s friends with the managers and he talks and he has a laugh and joke
with them
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STU: then I got transferred to education and then it was like
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STU: oh he’s a he he’s nothing to do with spo:rt any more an=
INT: =right [(.) in like] he’s in the dark side or [someth(h)ing] ha ha
STU:
[that’s it]
[xx hu xx] yea cause I got redeployed to
education so >you end up< making new friends and
(0.2)
INT: [yea]
STU: [an then en] then I went back to spo:rt an then like the friends like you made in
education was like
(0.3)
STU: ow you go back to spor(h)t you know you go you go back to another department its
just like
(0.2)
STU: eh I’m still the same per::son but eh [yu:: sac sac] its how people
INT:
[yea]
(0.2)
STU: in their own mi::nds
(0.5)
STU: as if they form their own eh opinions and stuff an
(0.3)
INT: [yea]
STU: [no like]
(0.2)
STU: their own bonds yea suppose suppose like you know
(0.2)
STU: your part to you an he’s like he’s not part of our team >he’s on another he’s on a he’s
got<
(0.5)
STU: its just like you being in football like an you play for Everton and you go and play for
Liverpool and the fans are like
(0.6)
STU: you know eh ha [ha ha ha ha em:: and] it’s just like hang:: on you know
INT:
[yes choose between (.) either side]
(0.2)
STU: where where does his loyalty lie:: an
(0.2)
STU: [when yous sent to these] places you have no contro::l over you just
INT: [yea:: en]
(0.6)
STU: your your just a sheep aren’t you when you’re the pawn you just go whatever they tell
you to do to try and keep your [job an]
INT:
[not easy yea]
(0.2)
STU: but (.) people are
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STU: some people are I suppose you could say people are shallow an
(0.6)
STU: in some senses I and stuff but
(0.8)
STU: never to learn next way ensuring you learn from them
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STU: you grow so
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INT: so di so did you form any lasting friendships from the times when you moved from
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INT: em:: like you say from the management side to then the education side did you form
any [friendships?]
STU:
[eh]=
INT: =when you were changing job (.) s::?=
STU: =>I didn’t< the management I worked with an that they still email me now >an I see
around<
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STU: I do because eh (.) they didn’t want
(1.2)
STU: to s:: to eh
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STU: other called er eh
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STU: incapacity
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STU: I was incapable of doing my job as a fitness instructor [so]
INT:
[right]
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STU: I got my contract terminated >they didn’t wanna do it< but it was eh
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STU: cause it was the council and they were short of
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STU: money
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STU: mwam
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STU: um
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STU: my job was eh:
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STU: fifteen grand they could sa:ve so [eh it was sort] of
INT:
[right]
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STU: bye-bye
(0.2)
INT: yea
(0.5)
STU: and I app xx (.) I still get the odd email an how you doing how’s Univer::sity an
(0.7)
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STU: [you know] but put
INT: [okay]
(0.3)
STU: it was eh I di did form friendships with them while I
(0.2)
STU: but (.) I think cause I was like (.) you know
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STU: a few of the managers I was the same age like
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(0.3)
STU: like I’m you know cause
(0.3)
STU: I was ill an (.) I did make the effort to
(0.2)
INT: mmh[m]
STU:
[to] work and stuff I think they sort of respected that so they all stayed in
(0.5)
INT: stayed[ in contact]
STU:
[in touch but]
(0.2)
STU: ↑but I wou wouldn’t
(0.8)
STU: call them proper friends cause they’re just like you know associates that you know
that you know
(0.2)
STU: [how easy] you know how’s your wife and daughter and you know
INT: [yea]
(0.3)
STU: act it’s like (.) oh how are you and Stephanie and in an email an
(0.2)
STU: an you email back and if you saw them an that you’d have a pint with them an you
know=
INT: =yea=
STU: =saw them in the street you’d stop them and shake hands an so walk on
(0.2)
INT: yea=
STU: =you know its that
(0.3)
STU: you know its just the:re
(0.2)
STU: it’s a friendship but its not a
(1.1)
STU: a best friend type of [(.) friend]ship
INT:
[yea]
(0.3)
INT: yea
(0.4)
INT: and [> its very<] different
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[mmhm]
(0.3)
STU: yea its different relationship
(0.2)
INT: yea::
(1.3)
INT: okay
(0.7)
INT: em::
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STU: oh (.) [god eh schoo::l?]
INT:
[eh ha ha ha ha]
(0.3)
INT: [.hhh .hhh ha ha ha ]
STU: [oh we’re talking a long ti::me ago now I would have thought eh ha] ha ha [heh he
ha]
INT:
[can you tell me
INT: anything about the friends that you had a [school]
STU:
[eh::]
(0.9)
STU: school? eh
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STU: well I
(0.4)
STU: not a: lot
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STU: quite a few friends in
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STU: school but I went to an all boys school so eh::
(0.3)
INT: tsk okay
(0.2)
STU: well (.) I went to a rough all boys schoo::l I went to ((SCHOOL NAME))
comprehensive schoo::l
(0.2)
INT: right=
STU: =eh
(1.2)
STU: quite rough
(0.6)
STU: eh yea: so eh:
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suppose no one I had really wanted to stay an
(1.0)
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(0.4)
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(0.2)
the people who were really rough and really nau::ghty >you’d have the< (.) really
intelligent ones that the teachers gave the
(0.3)
attention and there’s the quiet ones like me and=
=right=
=yea
(0.2)
so eh (.) I just eh
(0.6)
I was I was dyslexic as we↑ll and:: I didn’t know at that times I thought I was thick so
at school I was qui::et an
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school wasn’t eh one of my favourite
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[so it wasn’t] a great experi[ence]
[no::w]
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yea
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°no::w°=
=em:::
(0.7)
and
(0.7)
did you have the same group of friends throughout school or:: did you change:::=
=eh
(0.7)
eh it’s funny (.) ad a friend’s a junior school and I went to senior school so we’d sort
of all stay friends
(0.6)
all the way through [school] but there’s other friends you know from other schools
[mmhm]
and
(0.4)
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>and I would<
(0.3)
xx
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we’d go up tow::n and you know and stuff an
(0.4)
no go round to each other’s house an
(0.8)
stuff an
(1.0)
I’ve::eh
(0.3)
I put in
(1.2)
I I do don’t suppose we’re friends enough to eh::
(0.3)
you know we all went off and did our own different thing::s we’ve
(0.3)
[like some went ]off to eh a:: levels at Univer::sity have
[mmhm]
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like I went
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I went (.) I went to college cause eh
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I didn’t do that well in my g c s ee::s >cause I was<
(0.5)
I was dyslexic an=
=mmhm=
=and so you know we just all (.) sort of went our own
(0.6)
separate way after schoo::l
(0.3)
yea
(0.5)
so did you stay in contact with any of your friends from [school]?
[eh::]
(0.3)
tsk (.)↑talk to a few of them on ↓facebook [and eh:: msn] still an:: (.) what (.) er::
[right]
(0.3)
you know (.) we’d catch up an that you know how you doing like eh
(0.4)
when I moved back to Wa::les eh
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one one lads eh:: in the police force now an
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but
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now eh I wouldn’t say we were friends like eh (.) we used to be we’ve (.)
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[mmhhmm]
[we were] kids then and you know
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as a kid you don’t really know
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mhm
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much about anything you think you d(h)o but
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[but I mean it a:::ll changes when when when you grow up you start wor::king an
[xx]
(0.2)
yea::: absolutely >its just when you go< in different directions [as w as well] from school
[yea]
(0.4)
so are you in (.) are you in close contact cause facebook’s an interesting one in terms of
friendship I [think because]
[yea]
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em you can kinda be friends with somebody but also eh from like you say have that
(0.4)
that [distance] as well so that you can[catch ]up
[eh]
[yea]
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yea
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you catch up when you want to or rather you know you can just like
(0.5)
>yea like<they’ll message you you can actually stand back an
(0.2)
yea=
=naw:: I wouldn’t say its like a close friendship its just like
(1.5)
you get them like wo::rk all times eh::
(0.4)
well what what is nice that you know
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naw in touch with him we do keeps
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se::
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eh Trevor and I we’re gonna meet up and have a [dri::nk an ]
[ha ha aha]
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[has it happened] yet
[we live]
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eh we haven’t got around to it yet no (.) ha ha ha
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its hard when you’ve got different life [styles] going on as well isn’t it=
[yea]
=yea
(0.6)
so have you have you done that since then school have you met up with your school friends
since school?
(0.3)
I’ve met a few eh:: around town and stuff (.)[ just bumped into] them and we’ve had a drink
[mmhm]
and stuff and that but eh
(0.4)
haven’t all really gone out more
(0.5)
know why:: mmhm ha (.) ha [he ha] ha ha I was gonna say cause eh am um
[yea]
(1.3)
no I’m um quite different to eh em a lot of the eh people I went to school with an
(0.3)
mmh[m]
[I] try to distance myself from
(1.3)
that world I don’t know whether that’s good or eh
(0.6)
av done xx a few people I suppose you could say but eh
(0.3)
I’d class as
(0.4)
scallies and you know and I had nu nothing to do with that side so I’ve moved
(0.8)
moved away [from there]
[moved away] an you [know] I moved to the city centre an
[yea]
(0.5)
you know trying to go
(0.5)
my caree::r going I get eh (.) but
(0.3)
>I had a< (.) really good career an
(0.5)
I lost that so I’m trying to rebui::ld
(0.2)
yea=
=my career and everything so
(0.8)
and you feel that those friendships might not (.) be::
(0.8)
particularly sort of productive
(0.3)
for you then (.) [with this new change]
[eh (.) eh it’s a different life] wasn’t it and eh your [different] when your at
school an
[mmhm]
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and I’ve (.) and I’ve changed a lot more than what they eh
(0.5)
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INT: [yea]
STU: [yea]
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STU: I’ve
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(1.0)
STU: yea whatever
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INT: yea=
STU: =and that fraid
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STU: sometimes I still think that
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STU: people would prefer me the way(h) (.) I am am I am now cause eh
(0.7)
STU: now
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STU: >cause if say something< I’m like that
(0.3)
STU: I don’t like that I’ll just like yea okay whatever and that’s (h) life an ha ha (.) eh ha see you
later an [ha ha ha]
INT:
[yea]
(1.0)
INT: so d’you think without facebook then d’you think you’d have
(0.50)
INT: been in contact with the people that you ↑are in contact with from school?
(1.0)
STU: probably never really bothered no: it’s just eh
(0.3)
STU: found em (.) when I signed up put my eh
(0.3)
STU: now you put your school and [everything in]
INT:
[mmhm]
(0.5)
STU: most people start a message eh uh like a oh
(0.2)
STU: how are you doing> and I is like eh<
(0.4)
STU: oh god I haven’t talked to you since like eh
(0.4)
STU: nineteen ninety fi::ve (.) and you kn(h)ow [what I m(h)ean]
INT:
[ha ha ha]
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STU:
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en n:: cause that’s like when I left schoo::l I was like
(0.3)
so so its like you know you catch up and then like you know
(0.3)
mmhmm=
=like eh
(0.3)
pom send me msn address and if your on-line like and that an
(0.3)
yea we like an that
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>and maybe we’ll<
(0.2)
like at first with a catch up and say why haven’t we done that and now its just like a
(0.3)
pop eh or how’s things going and all that one of one of thems now a teacher so I was like
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how’s your job going as a teahe::r and you know
(0.5)
the [other one] like I was say::ing is in the police I was like
[yea]
(0.3)
you know
(0.7)
how how’s your arrest rate doing and stuff like [th(h)at ha ha]
[ha ha ha]
(0.2)
so ↑quite kind of [casua:::l]conversations:: [(.) y]ea
[↑yea]
[yea]
(0.6)
yea
(0.2)
and >how how how <how does it feel to catch up with people
(0.2)
[over something] like facebook?
[eh:::]
(0.8)
eh
(0.2)
its ↑interesting cause you know
(0.2)
I mean
(0.2)
its just those (.) people still ali::ve and stuff isn’t it an [em:::]
[yea]
(0.8)
you know its interesting seeing what people have gone on
(0.5)
to do: cause eh
(0.3)
you know eh
(0.5)
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eh (.) they’ve gone off in completely different directions that have xxx xx
(0.7)
that I thought they [was like eh]
[okay]
(0.4)
the lad who en lives in Wa::les and that >he always wanted to be a vet< an en
(0.2)
he turned out to eh
(0.5)
no he’s went
(0.2)
it you know (.) got eh school and A levels and Univer::sity
(0.3)
he went off and he’s a truck dri::ver for like eight years and [then he star started to do] his eh
[oh ↑wow↓]
(0.3)
access course and went off to be a teacher
(0.3)
aw [oh okay]
[the other] lad he’s meant to be like a
(0.9)
eh you know quite (.) academic and that eh
(0.4)
you know he
(0.4)
he was like he went of and he was a mechanic an
(0.6)
[and an e] like he’s gone to the police now an
[okay]
(0.3)
like eh like I’m the (.) academic one and that I’ve come to [xxx ha] an em at
[ha ha-ha ha]
eh Univer:::sity (h) [ha em] ha ha hm mm (.) and [all sorts] just as
[you’ve got to stack] and
[everything]
its like everything an you know everythings right mixed arou::nd swapped arou::nd an
(0.2)
ye[a::::]
[so I did have] qualifications through eh
(0.4)
I worked my way up from
(0.4)
you know basic fitness instructor qualification an
(0.3)
I worked loads it’s like the equivalent of
(0.3)
the sport ↑science degree an=
=okay=
=em
(0.4)
I’ll (.) you know
(0.3)
I was like O::w all all the fitness qualifications in sport psychology
(0.5)
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I can’t do that anymore an I was like (.) what am I gonna do I’ve
(0.4)
>lost my job<
(0.2)
I know I’ll go to Univer::sity so(h) I d(h)id the access course
(0.5)
[yea]
[and yea so I wanna go back] on to rehabilitation but on the
(0.5)
on the other si::de so [but]
[okay]
(0.2)
↑all your friendships and everything an
(0.3)
how you from what you learn from other people helps you to
(0.7)
↑yea:: ↓h=
=help yourself and eh get a direction in
(0.4)
[in life]
[okay]
(0.4)
and do you think that would have been if you:
(0.02)
hadn’t had been in contact with your friends from school do you think it >°would have been
done°< it would have made a difference:: to your::=
=no
(0.4)
no:
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I wouldn’t ave ah (.) I make any xxx (.) you know eh
(0.3)
all these people eh::
(0.2)
I’ll make a plan ah
(0.5)
and I decide I’m gonna do it and that
(0.4)
[I’ll]
[mmhm]
(0.8)
you can do anything if you put your mind to it it might be har::d and you migh you might fail
on the way but you’ve just got to keep eh
(0.7)
keep going and you get there eventually
(0.2)
yea
(0.4)
°unless°
(1.0)
that’s my ha ha that(h)’s what I’ve learned through through life an friendships and everything
(0.2)
yea=
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=you know you go
(1.1)
but
(0.2)
NO:: it won’t make any difference to me it was ↑nice nice eh
(0.7)
catching up with them when I went on< facebook last year an cause it was like
(0.5)
like lots of people and that you know
(0.2)
oh you gotta go on faceboo::k and you know
(0.3)
its like a
(0.3)
like eh I was on like you find them you know when you (.) meet mature students before you
[come to Uni:: and stuff]
[↑oh right okay]
(0.3)
like eh
(0.2)
there’s one person on but I mean you come >on eh on that course that you met on<
(0.2)
you find wi some of your friends before we came to Uni:: which was
(0.4)
but on the first day it wasn’t (.) [it wasn’t lik but ]
[aw righ::t okay ]
(0.2)
I’m I’m a all ↑there by myself [with all th(h)ese kids an]
[he ha ha ha]
(0.2)
.hhh but eh (.) so I was like oh fo went on facebook and played around on there didn’t know
again I wouldn’t wouldn’t
(0.3)
really
(0.2)
bothered me but meet up all the [same as xx] and I thought[ it’s nice] its just nice know that
you know
[yea]
[yea]
(0.30)
mmhmm
(0.5)
that
(0.9)
he was still arou::nd and that you know its nice at least they’ve still got the respect and that
(0.2)
yea=
=you know to to wanna
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ask about me an
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↑yea[h]
[you] know an its nice to have the interaction and you [know] maybe I suppose
[yea::]
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it makes you feel a good in a sense that you’ve got interaction with eh
(0.3)
people that you used to know although you know
(1.1)
like
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I say friends like when we were in eh
(0.8)
school and we were all like all a little gang of mates and stuff and now its nice to know that
(0.4)
you know
(0.2)
people still willing to talk to you an=
=yea
(0.9)
[and they’re still arou::nd and doing well and (.) yea absolutely yea]
[now remember you and them (.) xxx (.) yea]
(0.5)
so d’you think the friends that you a:: friends with on facebook how long can you imagine
being friends with
(0.2)
these old school friends for?=
=eh
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well I eh
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°don’t know°
(0.50)
see what happens
(0.2)
for as lo(h)ng as I’m using facebook [ha ha]
[ha ha ha] but yea
(0.2)
[an eh I thought] facebooks more for eh
[yeah]
(0.3)
games and distractions you know when your having a break from your coursewor::k an d you
go for a
(0.3)
xx=
=its more [procrastination] than anything ha ha ha
[yeah] (.) you shouldn’t you know I shouldn’t really say that on camera [should I]
[ha ha]
[I study really ha::rd ha ha ha en ha ha]
[ha ha ha ha ha ha] so this this website that you said you met with mature students and you
developed a [friendship] (.) from the::[re]
[yea]
[yeah]=
=can you tell me a bit more about that?=
=it was one of those (.) you know when you sign to UCAS and UCAS emails an I was as like
(0.3)
eh
(0.6)
you find find five people you
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(0.2)
you going to (.) Univer::sity and
(0.3)
from on your course and you put like your
(0.8)
like eh
(0.2)
I’m
(0.2)
I’m going ta
(0.3)
I’ve applied for like eh (.) John Moo::res to do applied psychology=
=right=
=I
(0.6)
you can go on and see other people that have eh
(0.8)
[okay]
[yu ka]
(0.2)
you know
(0.2)
ts: (.) have applied to psychology and just like
(0.4)
so you just start talk::ing to them I was like you know
(0.2)
but how d’ya think I’m like
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lucky there some more eh (.) mature students I was like
(0.3)
oh what d’you think its gonna be like and you know an
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and its like on the fi on the first day
(0.2)
aw should we meet up befo::re and get it on eh
(0.3)
and eh get a coffee an en like
(0.3)
go in together and so so we we did that
(0.6)
supu I suppose it was eh better than you know eh going in and being by yourself into
(0.1)
yea abso[lutely ]
[eh se] like eh coming in to education I was
(0.4)
I suppose its different
(0.3)
aw its different like (.) going straight from school to
(0.5)
Uni::ee and you know
(0.8)
like
(0.2)
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wor::k and come doing access cou::rse and then coming to
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just talk to people an show them respect and they’ll respect you[ back and] that an eh that
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[yea]
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everyone’s got their own story to tell [so its it’s a]
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humph
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.hhh (.) so em (.) so in terms of friendships that you you’ve developed at Uni it sounds like
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[right yea so you impart your knowledge]
[and wisdom cause you’ve]
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wanna go there [and so its like its] again friendships about sha::ring you [knowledge] and
[yea::]
[ye↑a↓]
experience
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and and would you say that you::r experience em of making friends at University was
different from what you expected?
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no I would xx eh
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naw I just eh
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one friend at Uni:: or have eh you
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[okay]
[by luck oh]
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my girlfriends got to know them as well an [girlfriend he] can talk to them on msn
[°right°]
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and that’s how we xxx xx its good good=
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different things and
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worked hard to get here and we’ve go here an (.) you[ know]
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yea
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yea
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remember the eigh::ties [and when we were kids trans]formers and
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(0.2)
ha ha ha ha
(0.3)
no [button moon and all] that sort of thing
[ha ha ha ha ha]
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does it say so did do does your friendship with that mature student differ from your
friendships with the ↑younger students (.) ss?
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wiv
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[ha yea (.) go on youtu:be a ha ha ha ha ha aha ]
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yea[h]
[you]tube eh
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[yea that’s] what I said to them if you don’t understand what I’m saying just go on youtube
and it’ll it’ll be on the::re
(0.3)
[yea]
[ah um] (.) relic of the past (.) ah ha [ha ha ]
[eh cause] >that that that< that can often that can often be
the divide [can’t it ]at University between mature students and [eh younger] students I know
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you know you tend to have the mature students sit at the front and the the younger students
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=oh no we sit at the back
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oh [Right oh okay you go to the ha ha ha ha ha] (.) [ha ha ha ha ]
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(0.2)
like kinda he’s he’s like
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have I done something or
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[yea]
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but what with mm my background it’s like
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everybody’s a per::son [and]
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you know if someone tal:ks to me I’m gonna talk back an (.) you[ know]
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(0.5)
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I live over the wa:ter so it’s hard tying to get together to do something so that’s why its like
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[yea]
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like you know
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not so bad your not by yourself then an
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oh no we’re paying it next ti::me and [hu ho:]
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wa: eh li like his wi wife was I wear the trousers you shut up [and I’m like]
[uh ha eh ech]
and that’s how I mean
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eh::
[yea:::]
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=>you know what I mean< we we’re friends trust builds the long the longer you know each
other the more the trust
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=builds up and the close the closer you get so that’s why I say you have different stages of
frien:::ds =
=yea=
=and that and that’s why its different wi’ To::m like twelve years knowing each [other and
that you know ]
[mmmhhmm]
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like
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crap an like he can sense you know::=
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the macho thing: (.) ha ha=
=yea=
=for fi::ve minu[tes ha ha] ha ha
[ha ha ha ha]
[yea] (.) so what what what [what do you] think changes then in the
friendship that makes you more that makes you more intuitive like that what what is it d’you
think that (.) do you think that changes=
=eh::
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dunno ↑ I think I think things been learning ech we’ve (.) we’ve got older
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[mmmhmmm]
[and we’ve settled dow::n and we’ve been through a lot of expe::ri[ences tog]ether
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=and that but
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one another I mean
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so (.) so knowing you got [that that] strong [support]
[yea]
[yea]
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makes you feel
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more [(.) emphathy]
[yea:: like I said before] an that we got stuck somewhere on a Saturday night was in
trouble and we
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like he pick up a phone and say Trev look eh::: can you come and get me and I’ll be like yea
no problem or
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[like eh]
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If I got stuck somewhere and like and he he he >said in the past< I’ll jump and come and get
your or::
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yea=
=you know
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but what does that mean to you? (.) to have that [friendship]
[its eh]
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means a lot to eh being able to
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°I dunno° I suppose in a sense it’s like eh
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means more than family cause I mean it [it is closer] and that
[°mmhm°]
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like I ↑haven’t got a brother
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or (.) sister but I see him like a (.) brother so I mean=
>yea<
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.hhh he sees he sees eh like the same and close to his like Mum and Dad as well
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like [he’s close to] my Mum and Dad an
[°okay:: °]
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=that’s so: so its eh
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so↑ I say like eh it’s a eh
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it’s a really good friendship cause like
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I:: can just go round his Mum and Dad’s and you know
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and like .hh talk to his Mum and Dad for a few hou::rs and
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he’d do the same for my Mum and Dad and
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you know an
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like when ave the family barbeque like and that eh::
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like its like
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oh he’s eh (.) make sure Trev’s coming and you know [like the]
[yea]
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>if they go out for a drink< it’s like oh
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let’s ask Trev and Stephanie to come
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yea=
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my Mum and Dad and you know it
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and stuff as well so so it work::s really
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[so you’ve got just as close] to his [family as well eh as you do] to (.) him [cause] of yea
[ourselves]
[yea that’s right]
[yea] so that’s why
I said its different
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next stage stage an that’s more like a
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a family frie::nd you [know best friends] and its like
[yea]
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there’s friends: and
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>then there’s like< (.) where you wor:k or whether [you] (.) train with them=
[yea]
=so there’s kind of[ like a kind] of hierarchy of [ju its it’s] [a like with friendships]
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[yea] [or you could say its eh] human nature
if your
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animals and its just like the pi pack and there’s different stages in the pack [an]
[yea]
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yea
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suppose you could say
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that
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↑have you ever have you every been let down by a friend::?
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eh::
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yea (.) I’ve been I’ve been let down but eh (.) >yea that’s human nature< I mean people let
you dow::n I mean
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°mmhm°
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ur:: eh
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but
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you know that’s I suppose again >that shows the difference< between a
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°yea°
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one who you know is more like a social friend I mean
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a true friend
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will do everything they can not to let you
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down whereas
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you do get let dow::n don’t get me wrong but
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other people
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you know its just like
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I’d rather go to (.) and what you meant to go an uh I’d rather go to Bingo than eh
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you know
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go (.) go wi:
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go off for a drink and that but but I’d rather go with eh out wi a family an you know you
arrange to do something and
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you get let dow::n but I mean its (.) its li:fe isn’t it I mean
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yea
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like you know
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is it
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is: (.) again its lear::ning isn’t it
(0.5)
and its useful ou:: to dwell on things its like
(0.4)
↑oh ↓well
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um:: go >for a drink< by my↑self
(0.3)
[yea::h]
[he ha hi (.) ha ha xxx] and a set of one [ha ha ha ha]
[ha ha oh ↓well] (.) [ha ha ha ha ha]
[ha hahaha ha ha]
(0.2)
.hhh so em::: (.) so when so when you let (.) when when you’ve been let down ↓before
(0.2)
with within a friendship how how’s that made you (.) how’s that made you fee:l?
(0.4)
eh:
(1.6)
>I’mean<:
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(1.0)
↑suppose as Igot older >you know what I mean its just like<
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analysis
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oh its one of those things but when your younger and that you do get hu::rt by it
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it annoys you and its just like
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why the hell they done that and all that what does it all mean
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well it’s the stage life where you can handle like
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things happen you know people have their commitments and you know
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°help°
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its like as I said its different stages of friends and stuff and
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other things come up and their more important I mean
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[yea]
[>to me it’s just<]
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it it its just li:fe
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right
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I know
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ha he ho ha ha ha (.) and that but eh:: he ha I’m quite easy go::ing so I mea::n
(1.2)
and like you say [it sounds] like (.) whi:
[xxx xx]
(0.2)
whe when you know the true friendships are deliberately letting you [down]
[yea]
as well that that makes a difference to actually someone
(0.3)
yea=
=em
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>you know< almost deliberately (.) sort of letting you down wi ↓within a friendship
(0.6)
yea
(0.3)
I mean
(0.4)
↑whu I’ mean sometimes you do get fobbed off and you know but I mean
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it (.) again it’s part of life and y’I’mean
(0.4)
there’s no point in getting angry over every little thing and that cause you know
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what’s the point in it?
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yeah
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>you know what I mean< go off and xxx other friends:: an (.) stuff if someone lets you down
and that
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there’s always someone to go for a drink with an em
(0.2)
I’ll finds someone of facebook or something [xxxx ha ha ha ha ha] can you get me on xx xx
[ha ha ]
[yea eh he ha he ha]
[remember that
policeman]=
=yea[ha ha ha]
[ha ha ha]
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.hhh so in ↑summary em
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can you s::: (.) can you sum up what friendship means to you?=
=eh
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sum up what friendship means its eh
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suppose its about
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loyalty
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eh xxx
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loyalty between two people respect
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understanding
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eh
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eh been having war(h)m feelin(h)gs and ca(h)ring for each other
(0.2)
yea=
=god that’s got to be in it [as well]
[ha ha ha ha]
the hard man image [is ruined] you know (.) eh understanding sha::ring=
[ha ha ha ha]
=mmh=
=yea
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bonding
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yea
(0.5)
°yea°
(0.3)
bit (.) but the male thing you know
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the male hugging and all that you kno(h)w and [you kno(h)w ha ha]
[ha ha ha ha]
but an you know its just you know about being honest with yourself and=
=mm=
=they can be themselves and
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don’t put on an act or anything you can be who you are:: and
(0.2)
yea=
=they respect you for that and you respect them for that an=
=yea=
=you know
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°he could°
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yea:: you gotta understand with friends as well (.) yea they’re gonna make mistakes they’re
gonna do things you don’t like but
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hell I know
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I’m gonna do the sa::me an in ma:
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that’s about being matu::re enough to
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get me down problem to wo::rk through an=
=yea
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you know that’s that’s what friendship is::
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yea=
=it’s a
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suppose it’s a bond between
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two or more ↑people
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yea
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could be=
=yea
(0.8)
and no(h)w uh he
(0.3)
yea (.) I’m that knackered I don’t know what to say [on that one]
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.2)
.hh well ↑ perfect summary thank you [very muc]h
[oh that’s okay]=
=↑okay [so]
[xx]
(0.3)
stop recor↑ding?=
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=okay=
=okay
(0.7)
delete delete delete [ha ha ha ]
[ha ha ha ha]
(0.4)
↑worst [interview ever]
[oh it’s well eh::] if [you say that it’s] well said
[ha ha ha ha]
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okay:
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*END*
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