Fifth Meeting on FRBR/CRM Harmonization
Nuremberg (Germany), 16-18 November 2005
Minutes
Participants: Trond Aalberg (BIBSYS, Norway), Martin Doerr (ICS-FORTH, Greece), Dolores Iorizzo
(The Imperial College, United Kingdom), Patrick Le Boeuf (National Library of France), Stephen Stead
(Paveprime Ltd, United-Kingdom), Maja Žumer (National and University Library of Slovenia), Siegfried
Krause (Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Germany), Guenther Goerz (Institut fuer Informatik 8/KI
Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg), Carlos Lamsfus (Centre VICOMTECH)
Observers: Chryssoula Bekiari
MEETING #5 STEP BY STEP
16 November
Disc us si o n n o te s
1.
General discussion about FRBR:
a.
Our purpose is to examine first the consolidation and after that the functionality of
FRBR which we want.
b.
To create a working group for the FRBR to wiki CIDOC
c.
to examine the attributes that has to do with the series because something is lost
d.
At manifestation level we distinguish two different mappings, the interpretive mapping
:if it is mapped to an interpretation and the descriptive if it is mapped to a description.
e.
What is the core model? Up to now many of the relations are because of clarification
of good knowledge. We leave open which are the necessary relations for
documentation
f.
We haven’t look at manifestation relationships
g.
Some of the relations don’t agree with the CRM. These are
h.
i.
is owned by
ii.
is part of
iii.
is subject of
There was an argument about to put to higher class the relation “subject of” or should
appellation have structure
i.
Another issue was the nature of electronic publishing and we decided that there should
be a paragraph about the equivalence between electronic and traditional publishing in
the introduction. ( First should be the first externalization and second the electronic
publishing. The first externalization could leave the material carrier)
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j.
we have not model the oral tradition. Also there should be a paragraph for the notion
of the first external realization of the oral tradition.
k.
To put the SIS CIDOC with FRBR to the web server as download
l.
There is a need to clarify Publication Expression and Self-Contained Expression. They
are not quite consistent views.
m. an argument was that the uniform titles are not identifiers
2.
F1 Work:
a.
we perceive the work as a whole, that has members
b.
the substance of work is concept.
c.
A work is a product of a conceptual plan
d.
The result of the evolution of the work is the various expressions
e.
We should have a comment on work evolution in the introduction
f.
We have to look at definition of shortcut from Self-Contained Expression or expression
fragment to complex work
g.
Another decision was all document to be U.K. English
h.
it is an open issue if R13 belongs to F1 or R13 belongs to individual work
i.
There no indications about abstract or material nature of work. We adopt the notation
about series and concepts
j.
Dolores made the following drawing, which all agree on that
Work
Individual Work
Complex Work
is realized in
is realized in
Self-Contained Expression
Self-Contained Expression
Self-Contained Expression
Self-Contained Expression
Figure 1
k.
A question is posed, which has no answer a work fragment is a Self-Contained
Expression??
3.
F2 Expression:
a.
The genre attribute goes to representative expression and not to work
b.
P72 goes to mapping table
c.
R49 will be a shortcut
d.
We have to look at definition of shortcut from Self-Contained Expression or Expression
Fragment to Complex Work.
e.
It is an open issue if R13 belongs to F1 or to Individual Work
f.
In the introduction we should make a point that this model express explicitly the
temporal aspects to FRBR
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g.
the definitions that we give to CRM concerns the material carriers.
h.
In FRBR we try to find the real world behind
i.
P128 goes to F2
j.
R5, R6 is deleted from F2
k.
We have to examine later what are the connections between the expressions and
manifestation
4.
5.
F3 Manifestation – Product Type:
a.
changes in scope note
b.
CLP108B deleted
F4 Manifestation-Singleton:
a.
changes in scope note
b.
We should make a list with the subjects that have to be in the introduction
c.
We loose that some expressions have productions
d.
A question that we have to think about is “manifestation singleton is subclass of an
item?” What the people from manuscript say?
e.
An issue was that it may be good to have a general shortcut from manifestation
singleton to expression creation which will be a super class of R7
6.
7.
F5 Item:
a.
No changes
b.
We cannot go to industrial process if we have not a single carrier of the stuff
c.
Any expression must have a singleton
F6 Family:
a.
8.
It will be out of the first draft
F7 Corporate Body:
a.
It will be out of the first draft
b.
It should be grouped as in CRM
c.
corporate body should be legal body or legal entity, in any case the name of this class
should be synonym to the name Group of the CRM
9.
F8 Corporate Body:
a.
We delete F8 and keep F20 which is identical
10. F9 Concept:
a.
stands for about ness.
b.
An argument about the methodology we adopt is that we strictly try to find classes
that arrange a property
c.
It will not be in the first draft.
d.
We should make a review and we need to look at a subject for work
11. F10 Object:
a.
It will be out of the first draft
12. F11 Event:
a.
It will be out of the first draft
13. F12 Place:
a.
It will be out of the first draft
14. F13 Name:
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a.
is equivalent to appellation.
b.
we should put in the introduction about the use of the CRM we do and include the
appellation too.
c.
We have to check the structure of the appellation of the CRM.
d.
Access point is regarded to be indistinguishable from identifiers.
15. F14 Identifier:
a.
we should update all the class – sub class.
b.
We decided that all the equivalent classes should be referred as subclass, super class
of CRM.
c.
We need to distinguish between the substance of a title and the substance of
identifier.
d.
One of the names will be an identifier.
e.
We decided that names and identifiers should have a common super class.
16. F16 Rules
a.
an argue was here that an identifier is assigned accordingly to the rules.
b.
An issue was to associate E29 with activity in order to be applied to non physical
products.
c.
For modelling specific identifier, a model is needed about the structure of identifiers
and rules.
17. F20 Self-Contained Expression :
a.
An unfinished or lost expression can be regarded as an individual work.
b.
The fragment is the representative expression of a work
c.
We have fragments in respect to work
d.
Fragment is a relation
e.
We decided that any work can be fragmentary or unfinished or incomplete
f.
The complex work sometimes can be incomplete or unfinished
g.
In case of a trilogy that have two books, has two complete Self contained
expressions.
h.
we can have a self-containing expression corresponding to a complex work.
i.
Any individual work has the potential to become a member of a complex work.
j.
We distinguish two cases as we see in the following figure
2nd case
1rst case
Self-Contained Expression
is realized in
Complex Work
Complex Work
Translation 1
Translation 2
is realized in
is realized in
Individual
Work
(poem 1)
Self-Contained Expression
Individual
Work
(poem 2)
Self-Contained Expression
Figure 2
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k.
Some complex work has Self contained expressions, some other complex work has not
a Self-Contained Expression but they have two or more the Self-Contained Expressions
of the individual works they include.
l.
We can make a unit at the expression level or we can make a unit at the work level.
Self-Contained Expression
is realized in
has to be seen together
Work
Work
Work A
has part
Work B
is realized in
Work C
is realized in
Expression B
Expression C
Figure 3
Self-Contained
Expression 1
Self-Contained
Expression 2
m. It seems that there is a concept of intellectual completeness
n.
The translation is an alternative of a complex work
o.
We have two different kind of complexities the structure and versions derivations.
18. F46 Individual Work:
a.
Formulate unfinished work of expression fragment
19. F21 Complex Work :
a.
The expressions has no future, no evolution, only the work has evolution and future.
b.
Individual work is synonym to complete work
c.
An expression is a snapshot. The dynamic nature belongs to work
d.
The notion of Self-Contained Expression will be regarded as a notion of completeness.
A notion of union of complements
e.
A fragment is a part of a Self-Contained Expression that we don’t have in whole.
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20. Clarifying the notions of Complex Work and Self-Contained Expression, we made the following
arguments:
a.
A complex work may correspond to a Self-Contained Expression. While individual work
must correspond to a Self-Contained Expression.
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b.
We have two different notions: (i) The completeness of the work (ii) an expression to
be self-containing.
c.
The self Self-Contained Expression is a state.
d.
We recognize two notions of completeness: the completeness with respect to
consistent wholes and the completeness with respect to whole work.
e.
A decision is made: to extend the Self-Contained Expression to pertain the notion of
complex work and to pertain the notion of unfinished work.
f.
The Self-Contained Expression satisfies the consistency and the completeness of this
work.
g.
To do: We have to check the scope notes for consistency and we have to put remarks
about the realizations concerning the immaterial world.
h.
We have a need to recognize empirically the nature of work. We distinguish two
notions the logically consistency structure and the completeness.
i.
The following axioms should appear in the introduction:
i.
The Expression is Self-Contained
ii.
Self-Contained Expressions can contain Self Contained Expressions.
iii.
A fragment is a piece of Self-Contained Expression which is not a Self-Contained
Expression.
21. F21 Complex Work :
a.
It is important to note to which expression this translation is based.
b.
To do: to put in the examples why are these Complex Work
22. F22 Serial work:
a.
Serial Work is equivalent to aggregate.
b.
A serial work has a dominated concept by its own.
c.
There is a difference between serial and series.
d.
To do: We need an explanation for the mapping that serial are regarded to work level
and not to manifestation level.
e.
We decided that: when we refer to a class we have to put in front the class number.
23. F24 Work Identifier:
a.
An argument was that in most cases dates appears as identifiers. We decided to leave
them as it is, because this is not part of the Core CRM - FRBR but it represents the
way that librarian work.
24. F25 Expression Identifier
a.
We have to look at F14. We may include as a statement to the scope notes that the
codes should be human readable, not necessarily numerical
b.
In this point we made a review about what we have to clarify about Identifiers
Creation. The argument was that for identifier creation we have (i) rules and (ii)
constituents and for the constituents we have (1) other identifier/ name and (2)
qualifiers.
c.
Finally we conclude that:
i.
Appellation “consists of ” appellation.
ii.
Identifier creation “uses constituent” appellation,
iii.
identifier Creation “creates / assigns” appellation
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iv.
identifier creation “following rules”
v.
Appellation “identifies” E1.
vi.
We don’t distinguish identifier creation from identifier assignment. We distinguish
the assignment and creation only when we want to reuse. If the library
maintains a list of suitable meanings then we have to reuse.
vii.
Finally we decided to keep the following levels: expression identifier, work
identifier, manifestation product type identifier. Until we have any conflicts of
other type we regard these identifiers as a process of assignment. So we don’t
have assignment creation. (Comment: we have to check with the CRM).
d.
Question: is it necessary to distinguish between work identifier to work identifier
assignment, expression identifier to expression identifier assignment….(the following
schema is the answer +++)We have specific links between work and work identifier,
expression and expression identifier
25. F26 Uniform Title Qualifier: delete
26. F27 Expression Identifier Qualifier : delete
27. R18 performed, R19 performed : delete
28. F30 Work Conception :
a.
Expression creation realizes the work. We need this class to declare the historical
evidence we have for the conception of a work or initiation of the conception.
29. F31 Expression Creation:
a.
we have to make an argument about manifestation singleton
30. F36 Representative Product Type Manifestation Assignment:
a.
The manifestation product type and the manifestation singleton are completely
different in nature.
b.
F36 might be similar to type creation in the sense that it declares a representative
example of the class
31. F38 Representative Manifestation-Singleton Assignment : delete
32. F37 Representative Expression Assignment:
a.
We noted here that there is no need to assign identifier to individual work since we
have a Representative Expression Assignment.
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33. F41 Publication Expression :
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Publication expression
Author’s text
-------------------------contains
AUTHOR’S
TEXT
contains
Figure 6
a.
Citation From ….
Expression has multiple expressions regarded to the properties they apply. Publication
expression is an aggregate expression
b.
It is not a question that an expression is bibliographically irrelevant. Publishers decided
to put illustrations, examples, photos to author’s text. The publication expression may
contain work from different parties.
c.
Publication work contains the selection activities for example to select illustrations.
Publisher level
Author level
work
work
Individual
work
Expression 2
Expression 1
Plan
Product type
Singleton
Manifestation
Item
Item
Figure 7
d.
Item
We have to add a class F48 for aggregation work, the better term is F48 container
work.
34. F44 Reproduction Event:
a.
Reproduction event does not follow a production plan.
35. F45 Electronic Publishing:
a.
Electronic publishing becomes publishing event.
b.
Printing on demand and electronic publishing is the same.
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c.
Electronic publishing is in a sense equivalent to produce a book (public accessible)
d.
Question: do we regard the physical stuff as a feature of an object? e.g palimsests. We
need an example for individual work to be obvious.
Follow-up and plans for the future
We decided to make three meetings during 2006, on March June and October
a.
March meeting: Time: 27-29 of March, Place: London, Organizer: Dolores Lorizzo
b.
June Meeting: Time: 26-29 of June, Place: Trodheim, Organizer: Trond Aalberg
c.
October Meeting: : Time: 24-28 of October, Place: Heraklion, Organizer: Martin
Doerr
List of Decisions (5th Meeting on FRBR/CRM Harmonization)
1.
All documents will be in U.K. English(2g)
2.
We have to define a short cut from self-Contained Expression (2f)
3.
R49 created a realisation of[; F31 Expression Creation; F46 Individual Work] will be a
short cut (3c)
4.
We should make a list with the subjects that have to be in the introduction (5b)
5.
We should have a general shortcut from manifestation singleton to expression
creation which will be a super class of R7(5e)
6.
F6, F7, F9,F10,F11,F12 should be out of the first draft
7.
corporate body should be legal body or legal entity, in any case the name of this class
should be synonym to the name Group of the CRM (8c)
8.
F8, F26, F27,R18, R19, F38 deleted
9.
A decision about the methodology we follow is that we strictly try to find classes that
arrange a property(10b)
10. We decided that all the equivalent classes should be referred as subclass, super class
of CRM. (15b)
11. We decided that names and identifiers should have a common super class.(15e)
12. We should associate E29 Design or Procedure with activity in order to be applied to
non physical products. (16b)
13. We decided that any work can be fragmentary or unfinished or incomplete (17e)
14. The complex work sometimes can be incomplete or unfinished(17f)
15. A decision is made: to extend the Self-Contained Expression to pertain the notion of
complex work and to pertain the notion of unfinished work. (20e)
16. We decided that when we refer to a class we have to put in front the class number
(22e)
17. We decided to leave dates to appear as identifiers, because this is not part of the
CORE CRM - FRBR but it represents the way that librarian work. (23a)
18. We decided to include a statement to the scope notes of F25 Expression Identifier,
that the codes should be human readable, not necessarily numerical
19. we decided to keep the following levels concerning the identifiers: expression
identifier, work identifier, manifestation product type identifier
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20. We decided to call the FRBR review group to the London meeting. The names of the
members of this group that were mentioned, are:
a.
Yann Nicolas
b.
Pat River
c.
Tom Delsey
d.
Ed o’ Neil
e.
Marcia Lei Zeing
21. The mappings should be documented
22. We should present CRM – CORE in Dublin Core
23. The new version of FRBR object-oriented definition is version 0.5 of November 18,
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List of Actions (5th Meeting on FRBR/CRM Harmonization)
1
Maja Žumer
1.
Make an introduction before the end of the year
Dolores Iorizzo
2.
In the introduction should be mentioned the following
Patrick Le Boeuf
subjects and notes:
a.
the equivalence between electronic and traditional
publishing in the introduction(1i)
b.
the first externalization of the oral tradition(1j)
c.
the work evolution (2e)
d.
a note that this model express explicitly the
temporal aspects to FRBR (2f)
e.
the use of CIDOC-CRM including the appellation
we do (14b)
f.
The following axioms should appear in the
introduction:
i.
The Expression is Self-Contained
ii.
Self-Contained Expressions can contain
Self Contained Expressions.
iii.
A fragment is a piece of Self-Contained
Expression which is not a Self-Contained
Expression.
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Chryssoula Bekiari
Write the minutes
3
Stephen Stead
update the Visio diagrams
4
Trond Aalberg
will update the mapping table and make a proposal for the
format
5
Martin Doerr
1.
To put the SIS-CIDOC with FRBR to the CIDOC CRM web
server as download.
2.
To create a working group for the FRBR to wiki CIDOC(1b)
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7.
All
We should produce a journal paper what we do to FRBR – CRM
meeting and to present to Journal of Documentation or Journal of
Applied Ontology.
7.
All
To add the rationale in the examples of Complex Work.
All
We have to check the scope notes for consistency and we have to
put remarks about the realizations concerning the immaterial world.
All
We need an explanation for the mapping that serial are regarded to
work level and not to manifestation level. (22d)
All
We need an obvious example for Individual Work
All
The texts in version 5.0 that are in blue highlighted should be
discussed and all the texts in dark blue should be deleted
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