2019 Title 24 Advocacy Support
Meeting Between Utility Team and CEC – Meeting Agenda
Meeting Information
Meeting Date: January 10, 2017
Meeting Time: 1:00 PM – 4:00 PM
Meeting Info: Call in: (415) 594-5500
Conference ID: 940-290-811#
Screen share: https://join.me/codes-standards
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Attendee
Adrian Ownby
Bill Pennington
Christopher Meyer
Danny Tam
Gabriel Taylor
Jeff Miller
Larry Froess
Mark Alatorre
Ingrid Neumann
Maziar Shirakh
Payam Bozorgchami
Peter Strait
Simon Lee
Todd Ferris
RJ Wichert
Mikey Shewmaker
Kelly Cunningham
Marshall Hunt
Ricson Chude
Randall Higa
Chris Kuch
Bach Tsan
Javier Mariscal
Bryan Cope
John Barbour
Chris Roman
Christopher Goff
Daniela Garcia
Rachel Radell-Harris
Dave Roland
James Kemper
Briana Rogers
Eric Shadd
Heidi Hauenstein
Vanessa Morelan
Anna Brannon
Matt Dehghani
Jared Landsman
Jon McHugh
Dmitri Contoyannis
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SCPPA
SDG&E
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SoCalGas
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SMUD
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LADWP
AESC Inc.
Determinant LLC
Energy Solutions
Energy Solutions
Integral Group
Integral Group
Integral Group
McHugh Energy
NORESCO
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John Arent
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Agenda
1:00 – 1:05
1. Roll Call
2. Second Round of Utility-Sponsored Stakeholder Meetings
Kelly Cunningham
1:05 – 1:15
Heidi Hauenstein
a. Utility team is starting to organize second round of utility-sponsored stakeholder meetings,
which will be held between mid-February and the end of March. Keep an eye out for
communications from Energy Solutions regarding meeting organization.
b. Would it be okay with CEC staff to set aside Tuesday afternoons (12:30 – 4:00) and some
Thursday afternoons (12:30 – 4:00) in Feb and March to hold stakeholder webinars. May be
easier to have standing webinars on Tuesdays and Thursday’s than sending doodle polls for
~8 webinars.
3. Debrief Warehouse Topics Meeting
1:15 – 2:05
a. Loading Dock Seals
1:15 – 1:40
John Arent
i. Action Items
1. Develop a more precise definition of dock seals and dock shelters. Determine
when and how the different types of seals are specified.
2. Include tenants/building owners in list of stakeholders.
3. Supermarket refrigeration areas are not likely to be a candidate, since they
normally leave a loading dock door open throughout the day. (Payam)
4. Coordinate with evaporative condenser CASE author to determine details of
refrigerated warehouses, for evaluation of dock seals.
ii. Next Steps - In addition to addressing the items above, NORESCO will work on the
following items:
1. Conduct survey instrument to identify warehouse and storage building
configurations, use of dock door seals, and other practices.
2. Collect cost information on loading dock seals and dock shelters.
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3. Identify candidate buildings for air leakage measurement with dock seals present and not
present.
1:40 – 2:05
b. Hybrid Condensers
Cathy Chappell & Doug Scott
i. Stakeholders were generally supportive of the code change proposal
ii. Frank Morrison of Baltimore Aircoil Company (BAC) offered to work with the
CASE team to establish the appropriate requirement
iii. Frank Morrison (BAC) asked if we are considering CO2. He suggested that since the
market seems to be moving that way, it would be good to get out in front of the
market.
iv. Action item: CASE Team will follow up with the Energy Commission on how to
account for benefits from reducing refrigerant use associated with the hybrid
condenser measure.
2:05 – 2:55
4. Debrief Laboratory Topics Meeting
2:05 – 2:30
a. Induction Exhaust Fans
Jared Landsman
i. Very few stakeholders on the call for the induction exhaust fans measure  maybe
reach out to more stakeholders (i.e. manufacturers, laboratory owners) for next round
of stakeholder presentations
ii. Reach out to Matt Gudorf and David Kang at UC Irvine about rooftop anemometer
exhaust control
iii. Nail down the existing and future square footage of laboratory space in California
b. High Efficiency Fume Hoods
2:30– 2:55
Briana Rogers
i. Action Item: CASE Team will investigate the exact circumstances under which
Cal/OSHA requires tracer gas testing for fume hoods.
ii. Action Item: CASE Team will determine whether it would be appropriate to include
specific Cal/OSHA testing requirements in the strawman code language.
iii. Key Takeaway: Stakeholders feel CASE Team should incorporate a minimum fume
hood density threshold to which the measure would apply in order to achieve energy
savings.
1. Action Item: CASE Team will investigate the parameters used to determine
how a laboratory space is characterized as fume hood driven.
2. Action Item: CASE Team will evaluate if a minimum fume hood density
threshold should be applied and if so, what threshold is appropriate for the
measure.
iv. Action Item: CASE Team will explore the Zone Presence Sensor technology and
determine its applicability and/or impact associated with the proposed measure.
v. Key Takeaway: Stakeholder expressed general dislike of automatic sash closures,
citing their fume hood end-users complain that sash closures get in the way.
1. Action Item: CASE Team will follow-up with stakeholder to obtain further
details on fume hood end-users’ experiences with automatic sash closure
systems.
2. Action Item: CASE Team will also contact other measure end users,
including Caltech as recommended, to attain a wider collection of input
regarding the proposed measure technology.
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vi. Key Takeaway: Stakeholder questioned why the measure is not addressing face
velocity requirements and further emphasized their preference for high performance
hoods in which face velocities are reduced lower than what Cal/OSHA allows in Title
8, Section 5154.1.
1. Action Item: CASE Team will discuss the topic of High Performance Hoods
and face velocity reductions with other IOU stakeholders to gauge
receptivity.
2. Action Item: Based on responses from IOU stakeholders, CASE Team may
contact Cal/OSHA to determine if they are amenable to granting an
exception to the requirements in Title 8. Will include CEC in discussions
with Cal/OSHA.
2:55 – 3:55
5. Debrief Daylighting Topics Meeting
a. Daylighting Topics Part
2:55 – 3:25
Mudit Saxena
i. Key Takeaway: Stakeholders are aware that the minimum VT requirement currently
prevents tubular daylighting devices (TDDs) from being used in the prescriptive
method.
ii. Key Takeaway: There are some key differences related to thermal boundaries when
comparing residential and commercial TDDs – some TDDs are rated with the
different thermal boundaries but some are not.
1. Action Item: CASE Team will follow-up with Solatube to obtain data on
TDDs rated with different thermal boundaries.
iii. Action Item: CASE Team will follow up with CEC to figure out frequency of skylit
daylit zone on the CEC hotline.
b. Daylighting Topics Part 2
3:25 – 3:55
Eric Shadd
i. Key Takeaway: PAFs are not ideal, but are currently the only way to get these into
the code since they are not likely cost-effective.
ii. Action Item: Include other market actors: IES daylight metrics committee, NEMA
daylight management council, owners, tenant improvements/ facility managers for
retrofit applications, and CLCATTs.
iii. Action Item: Follow up with the IES Daylight Metrics Committee (LM83) and Kevin
Van Den Wymelenberg.
iv. Action Item: Contact AERC to get a realistic timeline for the implementation of their
ratings.
6. Wrap-up
3:55 – 4:00
Kelly Cunningham
a. Review action items from today’s call
b. Upcoming meetings with CEC
i. Tuesday, January 17 (1:00 – 3:00): TBD – cancel?
1. Demand Control Ventilation?
ii. Tuesday, January 24 (1:00 – 3:00): TBD
c. Utility-Sponsored Stakeholder Meetings:
i. Webinars: Mid Feb through March. Times and Dates TBD
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d. Other Meetings:
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2019 Title 24 Code Development Schedule
Key project milestones
Milestone
CEC Develops 2019 TDV
IOU Team Develops Code Change Proposals
IOUs Submit First Draft of CASE Reports to CEC
IOUs Submit Final CASE Reports to CEC
CEC Pre-rulemaking
CEC Rulemaking
2019 Standards Adopted
2019 Compliance Manuals Approved
Make Software, Compliance Manuals, Electronic Documents
Available to Industry
2019 Standards Effective
Revised Date(s) as of November 8, 2016
Complete
Now – Q2 2017
April 2017
June 2017
June 2017 – Nov 2017
Nov 2017 – May 2018
May 2018
Nov 2018
January 2019
January 1, 2017
Energy Commission’s 2019 Code Development Schedule (updated November 8, 2016)
DATE
2019 STANDARDS UPDATE SCHEDULE
MILESTONES
August 2016 to April 2017
April 2017
June 2017
July 2017
Stakeholder-hosted workshops & proposal development
Code proposals (CASE Reports) submitted to the CEC
Pre-rulemaking Draft Express Terms prepared, made available for public comment
Incorporate public comments into Draft Express Terms;
prepare Notice of Proposed Action (NOPA) and Initial Statement of Reasons (ISOR)
September2017
November 2017
File Draft Express Terms, ISOR, NOPA with CBSC
Draft Express Terms, ISOR, NOPA published;
45-day Public Review Period begins
November-December 2017
January 2018
Host 45-day Language Hearings
End of 45-day review/comment period;
begin review of submitted comments and preparation of 15-day language
February 2018
Publish 15-day language;
begin 15-day Public Review Period
May 2018
June 2018
July/August 2018
September/October 2018
November 2018
Adopt Final Express Terms of the 2019 Standards at Business Meeting
Begin updating Software, Compliance Manuals, Electronic Documents
CBSC Code Advisory Committee Meeting-CalGREEN
Adoption CalGREEN (energy provisions) at Business Meeting
Deliver Final Rulemaking Package to CBSC;
Approve updates to Compliance Manuals
December 2018
January 2019
January 1, 2020
CBSC Approval Hearing
Make Software, Compliance Manuals, Electronic Documents Available to Industry
Effective Date of 2019 Building Energy Efficiency Standards (Title 24, Part 6)
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