Final Decisions and Actions
Meeting Title: Green Deal Installer Forum
Date of Meeting: 9th December 2013
Attendees:
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Organisation
British Standards Institute
DECC
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Energy Saving Trust (EST) obo Green Deal Certification
Bodies
Federation of Master Builders
Heating and Hot Water Industry Council (HHIC)
GD ORB
GD ORB
NAPIT Ltd
National Federation of Roofing Contractors Ltd
National Insulation Association
Qualitick Ltd
Summit Skills
Waste & Resource Action Programme
Waste & Resource Action Programme
Institute of Domestic Heating & Environmental
Engineers
Scottish and Northern Ireland Plumbing Employers’
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Federation (SNIPEF)
Apologies
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Construction Industry Training Board.
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Glass and Glazing Federation
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Microgeneration Certification Scheme
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Ofgem
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OFTEC obo Competent Persons Forum
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Trustmark
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Chair
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Welcome and Introductions
Given recent policy announcements regarding Green Deal and ECO, and that the Ofgem
representative had sent apologies, it was agreed to re-order the agenda slightly and use that
time for a discussion of the impact of those changes.
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Actions form the previous meeting
2.
The GD ORB informed participants that three actions are outstanding (GDIF 03-04, GDIF 0401 and GDIF 04-04) the remaining actions have been closed. Please see Annex A for further
details on the outstanding and closed actions.
3.
DECC Green Deal policy update and discussion
DECC described their proposed ‘in-flight adjustments’ to certain aspects of the scheme in
order to help augment the customer journey. Amongst others, there are three main areas
targeted for improvement to assist supply chain participants namely:
 Opening up access to Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) data, so that companies
can easily identify properties which will benefit most from energy efficiency
improvements.
 Adding more measures to the current list of eligible measures.
 Working with industry in order to reduce the cost of insurance requirements attached
to Green Deal measures.
Further information on the extent of the changes can be found via the following links:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/govt-action-to-help-hardworking-people-with-energybills
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/streamlining-and-improving-the-green-deal
It was also noted that the fund available for the Communities Programme has increased. This
should present opportunities for Green Deal certified installation companies. DECC requested
that, once the consortia delivering those community projects are appointed, Forum members
assist in promoting this to installers.
Action GDIF 05-01: DECC to inform the Installer Forum of appointees to the Communities
Programme, and members to promote to their constituents.
4.
Incentive Scheme for Home Movers
The Autumn Statement announced the introduction of new schemes to drive energy
efficiency for home-movers, landlords and public sector buildings, worth £540 million over
three years. The DECC Cashback team presented some high-level ideas on a new incentive
scheme targeted at home buyers, and requested members’ feedback. The scheme will be
available to all people moving house including those who do not pay stamp duty, helping
around 60,000 homes a year over 3 years.
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Forum participants’ views were specifically requested on; potential offers, who should carry
out installations, and the methods of validating such works.
Particular feedback that members gave included:
 Any option that requires improving a property by two EPC bands is likely to be
extremely difficult without incorporating a microgeneration technology, and a
Cashback incentive would need to be quite high to incentivise such an installation.
 If Cashback were structured to reward installation of multiple measures, care should
be taken that the incentive was proportionate to the cost and benefit, especially in the
cases of some of the less complex measures.
 Discussion also focused on the installation process under these potential options and
the necessary requirements potential Installers must meet. The Forum outlined the
importance of ensuring a Claim of Conformity (Clause 7 PAS 2030) that installations
have been installed in accordance with PAS 2030. The Forum also reiterated the
necessity of maintaining consistency and ensuring appropriate insurance backed
warrantees are in placed once installations have been completed. Participants agreed
that in order to reduce any perceived vulnerability, requirements for those carrying out
works should remain consistent with existing standards that must be met by Green
Deal certified Installers. DECC acknowledged the importance of ensuring consistency
and reducing vulnerability.
5.
PAS 2030 Revision
BSI thanked participants for providing comments and observations on the draft PAS
2030:2014, Improving the energy efficiency of existing buildings – Specification for
installation process, process management and service provision, during the expert and public
review period, which closed for submissions on the 3rd December 2013. The Forum heard
that there have been amendments to the core text, grouped mainly around the Preinstallation Survey (largely presentational change), Pre-installation Survey, Safety Alarms
and record keeping. The ‘Claims of Conformity’ section has been simplified. Several
extensions to existing annexes accommodate additional energy efficiency technologies.
Publication is expected in January 2014, with implementation to coincide with the revised
Green Deal Code of Practice, expected April 2014.
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WRAP – Resource Efficiency Impacts
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WRAP presented a synopsis of their work and outlined the importance of resource efficiency
in the built environment, driving financial savings while prioritising energy, waste, water and
carbon reductions. The Forum heard that most resources have operational and embodied
impacts, particularly energy, water and waste. While carbon can often be used as a proxy
measurement unit for a number of impacts, in some cases this can miss the material (most
important) factor, e.g. cost impacts from scarcity.
The Forum heard that WRAP provides information to organisations in order to help realise
the full potential and how they can influence the overall resource efficiency impact of each
product. WRAP outlined the importance of implementing waste reduction action and
opportunities in order to reap potential cost savings and ensuring effective compliance with
waste management legislation.
WRAP indicated that the best efficiencies around waste are to be found on larger scale
projects, and that their offering might be more relevant to DECC’s GD Communities
Programme than to individual installations.
Action GDIF 05-02: The GD ORB to circulate a link to WRAP’s construction resource
section of their website.
7.
Green Skills Alliance Update
The funded Green Deal training is coming to an end as planned in March. The Green Skills
Alliance will commence a review on the Green Qualifications and units produced in order to
ensure their ongoing suitability and sustainability during the second quarter of next year.
8.
CAP 01
The GD ORB presented Common Agreed Position 01 on the Accepted Approach to Installer
Surveillance Evaluation. The Common Agreed Position was published on the 2nd December
2013, and it is available on the Installer Guidance section of the GD ORB’s website.
Available for download via the following link:
http://gdorb.decc.gov.uk/installers/installer-guidance
9.
Green Deal Advisory Group – critical issues
It was agreed that the Forum should help its GDAG representatives bring its collective views
to the GDAG. Therefore all issues brought to the attention of the GDAG should have
previously been discussed either at the Forum meeting or electronically. In future a standing
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agenda item should be added to the end of each Installer Forum agenda to agree what
issues should be brought to the next GDAG.
Action GDIF 05-03: GDAG to feature as a standing agenda item for future Installer Forum
meetings.
It was agreed that, from this meeting, the issue escalated to GDAG should be the Installer
Forum’s strong view that installers involved with Green Deal Cashback must be Green Deal
certified. One of the GDAG representatives agreed to draft a supporting paper and circulate
it to the Installer Forum for their consideration in advance of the next GDAG meeting
scheduled for the 15th January 2014.
Action GDIF 05-04: Installer Forum GDAG representative to draft paper and circulate
amongst the Forum in advance of the next GDAG meeting scheduled for the 15th
January 2014.
10.
AOB
There were no items raised under AOB.
The next Green Deal Installer Forum is scheduled for the 19th March 2014.
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Annex A
Actions Outstanding
Action Ref
Action
GDIF 03-04
Action
GDIF 04-01
Action
GDIF04-04
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Description
GD ORB to consider the appropriateness of
highlighting to CBs or Installers that some
CBs exercise discretion around the 12
month re-certification. DECC to assess
whether they can play a role in recertification.
GD ORB to liaise with UKAS and
Certification Bodies, in order to establish a
Commonly Agreed Position to assessing
Route 4 for demonstrating competence.
HHIC agreed to take the issue regarding
external wall cladding and flue terminals
forward via the appropriate channel with the
National Occupational Standards.
By Who
Status
Update
GD ORB
Ongoing
A Commonly Agreed Position is being finalised.
Confirmation regarding endorsement will follow
shortly.
GD ORB
Ongoing
The GD ORB is taking it forward with UKAS with
an aim to suggest establishing a Commonly
Agreed Position.
HHIC
Ongoing
Draft guidance is currently being produced. Once
this guidance has been finalised, this action will
be progressed.
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Actions Closed at the meeting on the 9th December 2013.
Action Ref
Description
By Who
Action
GDIF 04-06
Participants to provide their feedback to
the GD ORB on the Consumer Search
Tool
Forum
Participants
Date of
completion
Update
09/12/2013
Participants were reminded on the 25th November
that the GD ORB welcomes any feedback on a
continual basis.
Actions Closed since the last Meeting on the 12th September 2013
Action Ref
Description
By Who
Date of
completion
Update
Action
GDIF 01-05
GD ORB to update the Installer Forum once
the question of centralised course listings
has been answered.
GD ORB
12/09/2013
A review of this requirement has been suggested
to the PAS 2030 Steering Group.
Action
GDIF 02-08
DECC to clarify the responsibility for CO
monitors and revert back to the forum.
DECC
12/09/2013
This has been progressed to the PAS 2030
Steering Group.
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Action
GDIF 03-02
Action
GDIF 03-07
GD ORB to raise these concerns (Route 4
Competence Demonstration) at the next CB
Forum meeting and update the installer
Forum participants
Forum participant to draft a letter outlining
the issue regarding the Common Minimum
Technical Competence Annexes and the
proposed action / solution required. Letter to
be circulated amongst the Installer Forum
participants once drafted for comments and
then submitted in the Forum’s name initially
to DECC, and potentially DCLG, Devolved
Administrations and BIS.
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GD ORB
12/09/2013
Taken forward as action GDIF 04-01
GDIF and
GD ORB
12/09/2013
The letter was drafted and submitted to DECC on
the 30 July 2013 by the ORB on behalf of the
Installer Forum.
Action
GDIF 03-08
DECC to look into whether and how an
alternative route to accessing Cashback
might be brought about, and report back to
the Installer Forum
DECC
12/09/2013
Action
GDIF 04-02
GD ORB to circulate a feedback form to the
Forum participants seeking their
suggestions on improvement areas and
whether there are any perceived
shortcomings in the CoP.
GD ORB
12/09/2013
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Potential changes were discussed at September’s
meeting and further feedback was sought and
conveyed to DECC. Potential options that DECC
are considering were discussed during the
meeting on the 9th December 2013.
The GD ORB circulated a request for suggested
improvements on the 12 September. All feedback
was collated by the GD ORB and forwarded to
DECC at the beginning of October for
consideration.
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Action
GDIF 04-03
Action
GDIF 04-05
Action
GDIF 04-07
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Forum participants to provide Feedback on
the Cashback scheme to the GD ORB
following DECC’s request for suggestions
and observations.
Forum
Participants
HHIC and NIA to convene a working group
comprising EWI representatives and HHIC
HHIC and
representatives to work on the development
NIA
of appropriate guidance for external wall
cladding and flue terminals
GD ORB to circulate the names of the
nominated representatives and the Terms of
Reference of the Green Deal Advisory
Group, together with a briefing note from the GD ORB
designated Installer Forum representatives
following the inaugural GDAG meeting.
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19/09/2013
DECC received feedback from participants. On
the agenda (item 9) for the meeting on the 9th
December 2013.
26/11/2013
A working group has been convened, consisting
of six members from HHIC and NIA. The meeting
took place on the 26th November 2013. Draft
guidance is being formulated for review. The next
meeting is scheduled for the 6th January 2014.
31/10/2013
The GD ORB circulated the names of the
nominated representatives, ToRs and a copy of
final decisions and actions from the inaugural
meeting. Circulated on the 31 October 2013.
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