Okanagan TSA Steering Committee Minutes
Okanagan Shuswap Forest District Conference Room
9:00 am – 11:00 pm, May 1, 2008
Chair:
Scribe:
Luke Gubbels, Forsite
Bob Annand, MFR
Attendees: WFN - Grant Thompson, Federated - Greg Hislop, BCTS - Brian Bedard, Dave Gill, Jeff Fukumoto, Weyco – Pat Farkas, Gorman’s - Kerry Rouck,
Splatsin – Rob Udy, Les Skaalid LP - Mike Copperthwaite, OIFS – Glen Dick, MFR Region – Glen Sparrow, Bernie Peschke, MFR District DMT– Rona Racine,
Ray Crampton, MFR Engineering – Kirk Hughes, MFR SSSP - Katherine Ladyman, Wolfgang Beck, MFR First Nations Program – Mahrusa Sherstobitoff, MFR
Tenures – Richard Toperczer, Kimm Magill-Hofmann, Bob Annand, Forsite – Luke Gubbels.
Standing Agenda Topics
Topic
Action Item Review
Discussion
Lead
Luke
Time
15
Description
Review Items
meeting
from
Meeting Notes
previous
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Any addition agenda items
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Action Ongoing Rich to obtain from Larry a digital copy of GAR
workshop
Action – Ongoing - Licensees seeking R/W danger tree removal near
Salmon Arm Rap base – please advise Janet Beltz.
Action – Ongoing - Ray to report out on progress (Efficiency review)
and provide timelines for local initiatives.
Action – modified – Ray to come up with an OGMA tracking proposal
Action – done. All licensees can view WHA referrals on MOE
website.
Action – modified - Put WHA/GWM loose language concerns in
writing to MOE.
Professional reliance
All
5-10
Standing topic.
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Staff Updates announced
I-Team
Richard
Toperczer
Peter Love
All
N/A
Standing topic. Update on issues
that I-team is dealing with.
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NA. Next I-team meeting is May 7th
15
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Peter Love
Laverne
Cormier
Kirk Hughes
5-10
10
Standing Topic. Licensees to pick
topics of concern for an open
discussion
Standing Topic
Standing Topic
MFR reviewers met and consolidated a list of common issues and
distributed to FSP submitters (NDT4, Sheep plateau areas, WiSa)
Material change decision is solely a professional decision.
No report
Nothing to report
15-20
Road users group in the district
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Pilot projects are proposed for the
province and a road users
discussion group is to be formed
within DOS.
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FSP’s, issues etc.
Association Update
FN NRFL update
Road Safety
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Action – All to advise Kirk if willing/interested in forming a district road
user group pilot for road use co-ordination.
Action – All to review their RUP’s status for primary users and be
ready to share that info with MFR Engineering.
BCTS (Jeff) willing to share road use coordination experience. Some
impending issues with Resource Road Act/Regs
Visit http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dos/programs/tenures/steering_comm_meetings.htm to
view documents related to similar pilots
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Link to Quesnel Road User Committee website:
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dqu/Quesnel%20Road%20Users%20Committee.htm
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State of the Industry
All
New standing agenda topic
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Deactivation issues related to wasted dollars fully deactivating
recently constructed roads by short term tenure NRFL licensees
wishing to offload liability asap. Is there a better way? No but ofline
discussions with Kirk.
Some loggers refusing to plough pull outs on heavily snowed long
sections of road. Very unsafe.
 This is a C&E and Work Safe BC issue. Need for a follow up.
Kirk
Federated – sawmill not operating, plywood plant is. Logging will be
focused on pulp/cedar markets. Markets not improving.
LP Malakwa looking at Cw Hw / Fdi for Golden. Looking for any
interest in Sx Ba.
Gorman – down to 2 shifts, planning logging start up in May.
Weyco – Princeton business as usual. TFL splitting action.
BCTS marginal successes, one ‘no-bid” sale being readvertised.
Stumpage is a significant issue. Things to get tougher.
Splatsin – 60,000 m3 Ready to sell
WFN – Still moving green pine.
Woodco – 1 Permit in place – stumpage issues.
New Business
Topic
Tenure Administration
Discussion
Lead
Glen
Sparrow
Time
15
Description
Tenures
Meeting Comments
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Familiarizing with district staff/licensees. Working in OSFD, Arrow
Boundary, Kootenay Lake
Region initiatives include Pulp Strategy, Reg review, Bio-energy,
Williams Case.
CP/RP workshop – contact Kevin Kansky RSI.
6 new woodlots coming on stream 20,000 m3 – referral stage
2 Community Forest Agreement invitations
Some questions on unallocated FRO/FRA volume – volume should be
going to other FN interests only – not BCTS etc.
MFR anticipating licensees to be proactive with range tenure holders
to negotiate adjustment of legal boundaries. MFR Range is willing to
participate.
Bill 28 update
Richard
Toperczer
5
Update on the status and volumes
for Woodlots and community
forests from Bill 28 process
Range
Ray
Crampton
15
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2006 stream crossing
compliance review
Empowerment probe
Brian
Robertson
Richard
Toperczer
Richard
Toperczer
Update on the MOFR's initiative to
adjust range tenure boundaries
and/or range tenure holders
creative solutions, so we can
minimize the amount of fencing.
Power point presentation
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Deferred till next meeting (July)
Update on empowerment trials –
(from Jan 10, 2008 meeting)
Damage timber clauses and MPB
and RP issues
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Feedback on the effect/results of the 5 pilots is welcomed.
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No input from SC members on danger tree Road R/W clearance. Rich
CP damage timber
clauses
10
20
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Aerial and Ortho
Photo update
Glen Dick
5
FIA funding to the
Okanagan TSA
Glen Dick
10
Fish passage
Glen Dick
5
IFPA Update
Glen Dick
Future meeting
Schedule
Aerial and ortho photo’s as
delivered from the VRI funding
last year.
 Funding allocation
 Fertilization programs
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New Standards
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Announced ONA and SNTC
membership in the society
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led a MFR cross program review. Determined legislation does not
allow harvest up to clearance width, only a total of 75 m clearing
width. Can remove danger trees outside of 75 m but not damaged
timber harvest. Other tools include CP’s, blanket salvage and SSSP
cutting authority. District is advocating for change to legislation
through RTEB (Brian Westgate)
For outside CP boundary danger tree removal is still allowed. Since
FRPA, CP sched A changes is in the works to allow removal of “nondanger, just damaged” wood up to 50 m3 per SP to jive with FPPR
sec 33 SP exemptions opportunity (usually SP is by block).
Aerial and orthophotos received. Quality good in the northern 2/3 of
TSA. Quality issues with digital image technology/results in the south.
Staring to roll out the new money.
Fertilizer treating non-pine to counter mid-rotation MPB falldown.
Details available Monday on IFPA website.
New strategy/standards
$300,000 earmarked for OK TSA.
Credit to Laverne and the First Nations Communication Forum for
initiating the move to amend the IFPA Society constitution to allow
ONA and SNTC to become members of the society and paving the
way for ONA to become the recipient agreement holder for FFT
silviculture contract administration.
Next meeting: July 10. Both rooms are booked.