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Plenary Meeting (PV) on Thursday the 19th of January 2017
Location: Roeterseiland Campus E0.05
Time: 1100-1200
Minutes
1. Opening and determination of agenda
Mourad opens the PV and determines the definitive agenda
2. Accordance of minutes previous PV
The council agrees to accord the minutes
3. Absent members
All Council members are present at this meeting.
4. Announcements
Raffaele mentions that Rostra will do an article about the mental health file.
Toma offers to check any email that will be sent to the board in order to make sure that no
more mistakes will be made. The council approves.
Mourad points out that anyone should be prepared for the OER meeting since they are
notoriously difficult to follow.
5. Elections
Should the council do more lecture talks?
Mourad says that the elections will appear on the horizon pretty soon. We should think about
how to reach the students of the faculty. Question to the council is whether we should do more
lecture talks? Eline suggest to maybe give a small overview at lecture talks and organize a
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meeting to give people more information about how to stand for election. Mourad adds that
we could include it in the toilet paper. The council agrees with these points.
(ACTION POINT 170119 01)
6. Coffee hours (Alex)
Alex points out that the idea doesn’t work. So in order to not waste our efforts we could change
the set up to explicitly asking students to come to our office regarding a specific problem any
student might have. Alex points out that we still want to remain the policy of being really
accessible and easy to contact. The council agrees that it would be nice if people could just
contact us and come by any time at the council room. Alex will set up a schedule in
datumprikker. (ACTION POINT 170119 02)
7. Evaluation weekend/meeting
a. Elaboration about the structure of the weekend last year by members that
were in the council last year
Rinus mentions that we first need to pick a date and then the DB will have to arrange the
location, transportation plus all the other necessary arrangements. Mourad says that anyone
who has suggestions for activities should refer to the DB. Rinus points out that we can reach out
to Samantha as well since she had some more plans that were executed last year.
(ACTION POINTS 170119 03/170119 04)
b. Decide on whether we want to focus on bonding in the weekend and
evaluation during the evaluation meeting
The council decides to do a bit of both at the evaluation weekend with a focus on bonding. The
more in depth evaluation of the council will be preserved for the evaluation meeting. Eline will
get back to Lieuwe after she reached out to Tijmen regarding leading that meeting, so he can
set up a datumprikker afterwards.
7. Bachelor split
Mourad explains that the file is a huge headache at the moment. We don’t know how much,
but we’ll get a huge amount of new students at the faculty next year. However, the faculty
probably won’t have enough funds to support all the students at the level that students have
become used to at the FEB.
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The UvA expects 900/1300/1600 students to join this year.
Florian Wagener already left his position during March of 2016. This had not been
communicated to the FSR.
The funding to FEB will be reduced, while the rent will increase.
Tutorial sizes might become 50 students.
Instead of the 3-1-3-1 system for a course, it will be 7-1. Thus, there won’t be a separate week
dedicated to the midterm altogether. The midterm will then count for 20%.
Block 1 and 2 resits to be held in end of January.
Mourad asks how we should approach these thing and whether we want to work with the OR.
Council agrees that this would be useful. Rinus asks whether it wouldn’t be possible to push
back the bachelor split. Atma and Mourad think this would be extremely unlikely since the
faculty already put so much effort in it. Also, the substance of the courses in the first year will
not be that different in the end, the whole mess is mostly about the coordination surrounding
the transition. Mourad says that we really need an overall strategy about with whom and how
to approach this. Eline proposes to go over the structure of the whole new bachelors because
of the lack of oversight of information. Rinus mentions that it is annoying that everything
changes once every week. Mourad asks whether a meeting with Florian Wagner and Peter van
Baalen could be set up to clear things up about the current situation surrounding the whole
bachelor split. The council agrees. (ACTION POINT 170119 05)
a. Discuss the allocation system (att. Memo)
Full cost model is the entire model of finances that the UvA uses explains Mourad. The
allocation model is how much funds every faculty will receive. The FEB does not have nearly
enough money to be able to set up near to decent education for the new bachelors. Mourad
proposes that if everyone could read up about the full cost model this week than we can have a
truthful discussion about this next week. The council agrees to this. Mourad adds that multiple
organs within the faculty would be willing to confront this problem with us. Mourad will upload
the documents on the drive. (ACTION POINTS 170119 06/170119 07)
8. D&D
a. How to approach the responses of different parties regarding the referendum?
Eline mentions that we could approach other FSRs to ask how they are going to approach this.
CSR said that we have to talk with our deans says Toma. Eline says that she could use some
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guidance in the matter before approaching the dean: What do we want? Who are we going to
work with? Mourad mentions that the outcome is mainly orange. He suggests that everyone
goes through the results again to determine where we stand. What Mourad proposes is that we
go through the chosen model again and what sort of useful powers we could get and after that
start to talk to different organs as well. Davey mentions that we could get guidance through the
D&D file holders meeting and the presentation of the results on the 25th. Mourad and Davey
will go to the presentation and Davey will go to the D&D file holders meeting.
(ACTION POINT 170119 08)
9. OV agenda consideration and final confirmation
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D&D positioning (Faculty meeting 25th)
Bachelor split
Rent allocation system
Jan Dijk replacement
The council agrees to the agenda
10. Questions and Remarks
Eline asks whether we could meet the new student assessor. Mourad says that he’ll invite her at
the PV next week.
Melissa mentions that the CSR wanted to do debates about the elections. Davey says it’s more
something that individual parties should apply to. Eline says that if it is about different parties
then we should leave it for now since we should remain neutral. Maybe later in may we could
facilitate something like that, just prior to the elections.
Toma mentions that on the 25th at 1630 will be a meeting about the educational vision of the
faculty. Rinus says that he is available and Melissa adds that she will go with him as well.
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Action points
161215 08
Eline will ask Tijmen for council evaluation event
170112 03
Davey will find out what caused the surge in prices at the university cafeteria
and what courses of action are available for the council to solve this problem
170119 01
Consider approach for election lecture talks, information meeting and piece
elections in the WC-krant
170119 02
Alex will set up a schedule in datumprikker for the coffee hour substitute
170119 03
Council should pick a date for the evaluation weekend
170119 04
DB should reach out to Samantha for information about the evaluation
weekend last year
170119 05
Set up a meeting with Florian Wagner and Peter van Baalen to clear things up
regarding the current situation surrounding the whole bachelor split
170119 06
Mourad will upload the relevant documents regarding the full cost model
170119 07
The whole council will read up about the full cost model before next PV
170119 08
The whole council will go through the D&D results again to determine where
we stand