Do DCB Pre- Market Clinical Studies in the US Capture Enough Clinically Relevant Information? D. Chris Metzger, MD Wellmont CVA Heart & Vascular Institute Kingsort, TN, USA Disclosures (D. Chris Metzger, MD) • Symposium Honoraria and Course Proctor – Abbott, TriVascular/ Endologix • Symposium Honoraria – Bard, Cardiovascular Research Foundation, Boston Scientific, CSI, Medtronic • National PI – CANOPY, SAPPHIRE WW, PREVEIL, CONFIRM, CONFIDENCE • Stock, Research Grants, etc- NONE • VIVA Board Member Brief Introduction of Chris… • Intervent. cardiologist, ~85% PV, 600-1000 c/y • Director Clinical Research, Director Cath & PV Labs for private practice group of 50 docs (0$) • Faculty, Live case operator many conferences • High volume research, lead enrollers of 28 major trials (Levant 2-#1 US, 2 global; InPact#2, Levant Access Registry- #2; in others) • 6 FDA audits- We Are ALL on the Same Team (and want many of the same answers) So, Do Our DCB Trials Give Us Enough Clinical Data?? •Yes, No, and Maybe?? DCB RCT’s: Definitely Some Good Data • Provide rigorous, adjudicated, impartial data • Indicate whether DCB is clinically better than available product (PTA) for specific lesions • Give same safety comparisons to PTA • Have opportunities for other measures of importance including cost, quality of life, walking distances, unexpected findings • Provide 1 year “answer” AND longer follow up What Do DCB RCT’s Not Give Us? • They don’t indicate for sure if the DCB is superior or safe for “real world” lesions not included in the trial, & “real world” patients • May not measure true “effectiveness to patient” • They do not compare DCB results directly against other DCB’s or non- PTA therapies • Do not give robust enough data to evaluate true outcomes in patient subsets DCB RCT’s : Sponsor’s Perspective • These are EXPENSIVE trials, usually after other investments (bench, animal, R & D, FIM, etc.) • Companies have investors and overhead, with many large reimbursement cuts affecting them • They must obtain FDA approval, AND reimbursement • They may need other trials, registries, etc. • They have a lot of competition Problems with US Research • US enrollment in clinical trials is SLOW • Academic centers often contribute few patients and have IRB/ bureaucracy issues • By the time the study is developed, approved, and enrolled, the product is outdated • There are a few sites enrolling most of the patients • Enrollment often shifted to OUS sites So, How Does Sponsor Approach RCT’s? • They will pick a “beatable control” – PTA • They will cut and paste previous approved protocols (perpetuating flaws) • They will include easier lesions and patients • They may not include all of their device sizes if not in prior protocol inclusion criteria • They may pick the same PI’s as other trials “We Do Not Practice in an RCT World” • There are a large % of patients that we treat who were NOT specifically studied in the RCT • There are MANY clinical issues which can NEVER be studied in an RCT (CM use of RCTs) • Usually < 10% of patients treated at a given site are enrolled in the RCT Trial • We are then asked to approve products, make reimbursement decisions, and make clinical decisions on patients not specifically studied Issues from RCT- Driven Decisions • We may exclude device sizes not studied- BAD? – Example: Supera 7-9 stents DC’d in US after SUPERB • We may require RCT’s that are almost unethical – Ranger DCB vs PTA RCT (is this OK?) – SFA ISR Trials DCB vs. PTA (I can not do) • We may make incorrect extrapolations – E.g. Nitinol stent low fracture rate in trials , BUT may be worse for long lesions w/ overlapping stents FDA/ Clinician Questions re: RCT’s • • • • • • What to do about real world lesions after RCT? What to with (same!) device sizes not in RCT? What to do with patient subset “signals” (rem:$) Can we improve/ standardize Kaplan-Meiers? What to do with device improvements? How much OUS data is OK? (and do we need to send all FIM studies outside US??) Some Potential Solutions/ Ideas • Study DCB ≥#4 (or DCB in ISR cases) against pooled PTA arms of prior DCB RCT’s • OR, study DCB≥#4 vs approved DCB (noninf.) • Come up with standardized & collaborative endpoints for Real World Registry studies that can be utilized GLOBALLY to pool data • Minimize request for additional “~100 patient trials” for minor signals seen ($$) • Do not exclude sizes not in RCTs (Registry FU) US, Japan, & European Collaboration • It would be great to have collaboration between regulatory agencies globally • Establish acceptable standards which allow appropriate combining of data sets • Such cooperation would reduce the same issues all of us face: cost of trials, time to complete enrollment, etc. and allows for larger patient cohorts. (avoids duplication) Conclusions • DCB RCT’s provide important excellent data – they should be improved but continued • We must all accept that RCT’s are expensive, AND that many patients we treat were not included in the RCT’s: clinical judgment req’d • Additional data can be obtained in standardized global registries • International collaboration will be helpful Thank You for Your (Kaola- ty) Attention!
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