CC:PA:LPD:PR (REG-121647-10), Room 5205, Internal Revenue Service, PO Box 7604 Ben Franklin Station, Washington D.C. 20044 27 April 2012 Dear Sirs, Regulations Relating to Information Reporting by Foreign Financial Institutions and Withholding on Certain Payments to Foreign Financial Institutions and Other Foreign Entities 1. The Association of Financial Mutuals (‘AFM’) is a trade body that represents mutual insurers, friendly societies and other financial mutuals right across the UK. We represent 57 mutual organisations based in the UK and have 32 professional service firms within our associate membership. Mutual insurers and Friendly Societies are member owned financial institutions that encourage self help and personal responsibility. We assist the work of government by helping individuals to take responsibility for planning and providing for their own financial affairs. Our members typically have over 100 years of experience and heritage in financial services. 2. Mutual insurers bring choice and competition to both customers and to the insurance market, which is vital to a healthy financial services sector in the UK. Many Friendly Societies continue to specialise in providing products with very low premiums, which means that their services are accessible to all income levels. 3. The AFM welcomes the opportunity to comment on the regulations relating to information reporting by Foreign Financial Institutions and Withholding on certain payments to Foreign Financial Institutions and Other Foreign Entities (‘FATCA’). Members 4. The AFM currently has 57 member companies, all resident in the UK, who collectively look after the savings, protection and healthcare needs of 20 million customers and manage assets of around $134 billion (£85 billion) as at 31.12.2010. The assets under management range from under $10 million for the smaller members (as at 31.12.2010) to $53 billion for the largest member as at 31.12.10. Further details of our membership and consolidated assets under management are provided in Appendix 1. ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 1 5. Our members are all incorporated, or organised, in the UK with the aim of offering financial products primarily to UK tax residents. As far as we are aware, the only members with marketing activity outside the UK will be our largest members who may have operational units based in Dublin, Isle of Man, or possibly other territories within the European Union. Further, only a small minority of our members have fixed places of business outside the UK. Our members offer a range of insurance products including: tax favoured products (pensions, Individual Savings Accounts (‘ISAs’), Child Trust Funds (‘CTFs’), investment life products, and tax exempt savings plans (‘TESPs’) all of which would fall to be financial accounts and other non tax favoured products (protection policies, general insurance and healthcare policies) which we would not anticipate ordinarily falling to be financial accounts. 6. A TESP is a product which can only be written by UK Friendly Societies. It offers the policyholder a gross of tax return, but in order to be eligible as a TESP a number of prescriptive conditions must be satisfied, including the amount of insurance cover and regularity of premiums. The key condition from a FATCA perspective is that investors can only invest a maximum of £270 per annum [around $425 per annum] across all TESPs. Investors are required to declare their eligibility on taking out a new TESP. The issue 7. As drafted the entire membership of the AFM would fall within the scope of FATCA and be considered to be Foreign Financial Institutions (‘FFIs’). This would place a considerable compliance, financial and administrative burden on the sector in respect of back book due diligence, identifying which products are financial accounts and new procedures for on boarding of new policies. For some of our smaller members the financial burden, when considered alongside a wide range of other regulatory initiatives, could be prohibitive, forcing closure to new business or forced merger leading to loss of value to members. The compliance burden which would be placed on our membership is disproportionate to the anticipated minimal volume of U.S. persons and therefore reportable data to the IRS. 8. Further, we can see limited benefit to the IRS of the majority of the AFM membership being considered to be FFIs. Reporting by such members to the IRS is likely to result in largely inconsequential information being provided to the IRS, which could impede the IRS’s efforts to identify reports of interest to them. This is based on the understanding that the policy objective behind FATCA is to enable the IRS to identify U.S. tax persons to establish compliance with the U.S. tax code. 9. Given that the majority of our members have: - no overseas presence; - only actively market UK tax residents; and - have minimal non UK tax resident policyholders (purely arising on migration); we would anticipate a typical member to have minimal, if any, policyholders who are U.S. persons. 2 ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 The proposal 10. The FATCA regulations have a concept of a Certified Deemed Compliant FFI (‘DCFFI’). The first column of the table below shows the conditions that an FFI needs to satisfy to be a certified DCFFI and the second column shows whether a typical member of the AFM would satisfy the relevant condition. Relevant condition which FFI must meet The AFM members Must operate and be licensed solely as a insurance companies and friendly bank. societies so would not satisfy Must be licensed to conduct business in for all AFM members its country of incorporation or organisation. Must have no fixed place of business for majority of AFM members outside of such country. Must not solicit account holders outside for majority of AFM members of its country of organisation1 The FFI must have no more than $175 60% of the membership have million assets on its balance sheet. consolidated group assets (and therefore entity assets) below $175 million If the FFI is a member of a consolidated 70% of the membership have group then the group may have no more consolidated group assets below $500 than $500 million of combined assets. million (see Appendix 1) Must be required under local tax laws to perform either information reporting or withholding of tax with respect to resident accounts. An FFI that is not subject to such information reporting or withholding requirements will be considered to meet this requirement if all of the accounts maintained by the FFI have a value of $50,000 or less. Our members are largely subject to information reporting or withholding requirements in the UK in respect of the majority of financial accounts see section 11. To the extent that there is no information reporting or withholding requirements we expect the account value to be less than the applicable de minimis2. For groups, each FFI in the expanded for the majority of members affiliated group must be incorporated or organised in the same country and must meet the requirements to be a certified DCFFI. 1 For this purpose, we understand that an FFI will not be considered to have solicited account holders outside of its country or organisation merely because it operates a website, provided that the website does not specifically state that non residents may hold deposit accounts with the FFI, advertise the availability of US dollar denominated deposit accounts or other investment, or target US customers. 2 $50,000 for all financial accounts ,other than for cash value insurance products where the appropriate limit is $250,000. ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 3 11. The table below shows the relevant UK reporting and withholding requirements for products offered by our members which are considered to be financial accounts. Product Pensions (in payment) Reporting / withholding requirement Tax is withheld (via the Pay as you Earn (‘PAYE’) system) from retirement benefits paid to individuals. Retirement benefit payments are also subject to reporting to HMRC via the PAYE regime. Pensions (in accumulation, i.e. growth No reporting to HMRC at this stage. phase prior to commencement of Provision of annual statement to retirement benefits) policyholder only. We note, however, that benefits cannot be taken by the investor in the accumulation phase. The value can only be taken by purchasing an annuity, or alternative retirement product, from which benefits are, as stated above, paid net of tax and are subject to reporting. For this reason we consider that it is reasonable to consider pensions in the aggregate (from a FATCA perspective) with any realisation of benefits being subject to withholding and reporting. ISAs (and ISA equivalents, including Annual reporting regime to HMRC (in Child Trust Funds (“CTF”)) addition to annual statement to policyholder). Provider required to report the following: specific investor details, amount subscribed in the year and investment value at a specified date. Investment life policies Tax deemed to have been paid at 20% during the product life and all policyholder benefits paid by the insurer deemed to be net of 20% tax. Reporting regime to policyholders and HMRC for a sub category of such policies where benefits are taken. TESPs 4 No reporting regime or withholding of tax. Given the nature of the product the account value at any time is anticipated to be below the applicable de minimis of $250k. ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 12. Of the requirements which must be satisfied in order to be a certified DCFFI the only one which the majority of the AFM members would appear not to satisfy is the requirement to be a bank. 13. We propose that the types of financial institutions which can be DCFFIs be broadened to include not just banks, but insurance companies and other relevant financial institutions. We understand that the IRS has shown a willingness to extend the “banking” condition to other FFIs in certain circumstances. To do so here, would remove over half of the AFM membership from the reporting and withholding requirements imposed by FATCA as they would fall to be certified DCFFIs. This would have the dual benefit of removing the significant compliance and financial burden which would otherwise be imposed on the sector and from the perspective of the IRS streamline information reported to them to relevant information. Registered DCFFIs 14. Over half of our members would satisfy the proposed extended certified DCFFI condition outlined above. A minority of our members would not fall within the proposed extended definition as they would not satisfy the balance sheet asset requirements. For these members the local FFI condition is of relevance. 15. The first column of the table below shows the conditions that an FFI needs to satisfy to be a local FFI and the second column shows whether a typical member of the AFM would satisfy the relevant condition. Condition which FFI must satisfy The AFM members Must be licensed and regulated under insurance companies and friendly the laws of its country as a bank or societies so would not satisfy similar organisation authorised to accept deposits in the ordinary course of business, a securities broker or dealer, or a financial planner or investment adviser. Must have no fixed place of business for majority of AFM members outside of its country of incorporation or organisation. Must not solicit account holders outside for majority of AFM members its country of incorporation or organisation. Must be required under local tax laws to would be satisfied for all financial perform either information reporting or accounts other than TESPs, see section withholding of tax with respect to resident 11. accounts. ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 5 At least 98% of accounts must be held by for majority of AFM members residents of the country in which the FFI is organised3. Must implement policies and procedures to ensure that it does not open or maintain accounts for a specified US person who is not a resident of the country in which the FFI is organised. Must review all accounts held by non residents opened after 31.12.2011 and prior to the date of implementation of the above procedures, in accordance with prescribed procedures in §1.1471-4(c) to identify and U.S. accounts and certify to the IRS that it did not identify any such accounts, that it has closed any such accounts as were identified, or agrees to withhold and report. In the case of an FFI that is a member of for majority of AFM members an expanded affiliated group, each member of the group must be incorporated or organised in the same country and must meet the above requirements. 16. We propose that: - the types of financial institutions which can be local FFIs be broadened to include insurance companies. - that where an FFI is not subject to reporting or withholding requirements in respect of a certain type of financial account that it will be considered to meet this requirement if all of the accounts maintained by the FFI are expected to have an account value of less than the appropriate de minimis. Without this, any insurer which offers TESPs could not be classed as a local FFI. As noted above, TESPs are low value products and are predominately marketed to UK tax residents so are not products which U.S. persons are likely to invest in. This would facilitate targeting of the IRS on high risk, high value financial accounts and reduce the compliance burden for the majority of our members that would not fall within the broadened certified DCFFI conditions proposed above. 3 An FFI which is organised in a EU member state may treat account holders that are residents of other EU member states as residents of the country in which the FFI is organised or incorporated for the purposes of this calculation. 6 ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 Intergovernmental agreement 17. If an intergovernmental agreement is entered into between the UK and the US then we request that UK entities which would otherwise be certified DCFFIs should be able to certify to HMRC, rather than the IRS, that they have nothing to report to HMRC. 18. I am copying this response to the relevant UK authorities. Yours sincerely Martin Shaw Chief Executive cc Malcolm White, HMRC ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 7 Appendix 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 8 Royal London Mutual NFU Mutual Insurance Society Liverpool Victoria Equitable Life Wesleyan Assurance Society Royal Liver Assurance Limited MGM Advantage Reliance Mutual Society Ecclesiastical Insurance Group Family Investments Police Mutual Friendly Society B&C Holidays Scheme Ltd Scottish Friendly Assurance Society Engage Mutual Assurance Teachers Provident Society Foresters Life The Children’s Mutual Oddfellows Manchester Unity Ancient Order of Foresters Dentists Provident Society National Friendly Sunderland Marine Mutual Insurance Co. Exeter Friendly Society Communication Workers Friendly Society British Friendly Society Ltd Benenden Healthcare Society Metropolitan Police Friendly Society Ltd UIA Insurance Limited Shepherds Friendly Society Schoolteachers Friendly Society Cirencester Friendly Society Healthshield Friendly Society Healthy Investment Cornish Mutual Assurance Kingston Unity Friendly Society CS Healthcare Holloway Friendly Society Sheffield Mutual Friendly Society Assets under management as at 31.12.10 (consolidated) GDP 34,244,000,000 12,202,000,000 9,062,500,000 8,684,000,000 4,608,500,000 2,991,239,000 1,904,160,000 1,711,952,000 1,581,049,000 1,206,010,000 940,684,000 854,165,000 806,593,000 802,245,000 767,117,000 668,513,000 627,384,000 198,845,000 176,232,000 167,359,043 157,895,000 151,715,000 131,999,000 105,866,766 96,191,000 94,658,000 94,047,000 82,805,000 71,089,186 58,838,042 54,693,573 50,514,595 49,476,607 49,252,914 44,499,680 43,415,000 42,533,285 39,406,657 ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 Assets under management as at 31.12.10 (consolidated) US dollars 53,615,830,800 19,104,671,400 14,189,156,250 13,596,538,800 7,215,528,450 4,683,382,902 2,981,343,312 2,680,403,246 2,475,448,419 1,888,249,857 1,472,828,939 1,337,366,141 1,262,882,660 1,256,074,997 1,201,075,087 1,046,690,804 982,295,129 311,331,617 275,926,442 262,034,054 247,216,202 237,540,176 206,670,834 165,755,596 150,606,249 148,206,031 147,249,388 129,647,789 111,304,339 92,122,722 85,633,727 79,090,701 77,465,524 77,115,287 69,673,149 67,974,866 66,594,364 61,699,003 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 Transport Friendly Society DG Mutual Pharmaceutical & General Provident Society Druids Sheffield Friendly Society Railway Enginemen’s Assurance Society Anglo Saxon Friendly Society Wiltshire Friendly Society Limited Red Rose Friendly Society Kensington Friendly Collection Society Paycare Grand United Order of Oddfellows Housing Association Mutual Insurance Coventry Assurance Livery Companies Mutual Bus Employees Friendly Society Compass Friendly Society Newbridge Road Assurance Society Railway Friendly Society Royal Standard Friendly Society Exchange rate spot rate as at 31.12.2010 38,614,000 36,080,782 31,901,382 28,897,856 28,037,019 17,822,611 16,593,000 11,161,082 6,757,954 6,568,465 5,463,309 4,160,993 3,857,308 3,388,757 1,183,198 507,857 0 0 0 85,864,438,921 60,457,940 56,491,680 49,947,994 45,245,373 43,897,561 27,904,862 25,979,660 17,474,906 10,580,929 10,284,246 8,553,903 6,514,867 6,039,387 5,305,777 1,852,533 795,152 0 0 0 134,437,952,019 1.5657 See: http://www.financialmutuals.org/advantage/key-statistics ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL MUTUALS, APRIL 2012 9
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