Nadcap PLANNING & OPERATIONS
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
JANUARY 19, 2004
FIESTA INN
TEMPE, ARIZONA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or
recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any
agency.
MONDAY, JANUARY 19, 2004:
1.0
Call meeting to order & record attendance
The following representatives were in attendance:
Fran Azzarto
GEAE
Ward Barcafer The Boeing Company
John Barrett
GEAE
Doug Bruce
Raytheon Aircraft
Wayne Canary
Rolls-Royce
Mark Covert
Honeywell
Andy Dale
Eaton Aerospace
Chet Date
Honeywell
Mike Davis
GEAE
Chris Diepenbrock
The Boeing Company
Jim Doherty
GEAE
Mehmet Doner
Rolls-Royce
En Englehard Owego Heat Treat
Mark Gleason GEAE
Frank Gritsko Sikorsky Aircraft
Debra Harrison
DCMA
Andy Iesalnieks
Rolls-Royce
Keith Kastner Cessna Aircraft
Phil Keown
GEAE
Arne Logan
The Boeing Company
Doug Matson
The Boeing Company
John McBrien GSA
David Michaud
Fountain Plating
Tom Murphy
Sikorsky Aircraft
Jay Park
Northrop Grumman
Julio Perez
Airbus
Manfred Podlech
MTU Aero Engines
Chatt Rhodes Cessna Aircraft
Tim Shiple
Raytheon Aircraft
Dan Smith
GEAE
David Soong
Hamilton Sundstrand
Mike Spencer Vought Aircraft
Camille Valmy
Airbus
Jerry Wahlin
AAA Plating
Nadcap PLANNING & OPERATIONS
PRI Staff in Attendance:
Anne Allen
Jerry Aston
Mark Aubele
Don Buehler
Bill Dumas
Laura Fisher
Michael Forman
Jennifer Gall
Lisa Glavan
Mike Graham
Arshad Hafeez
Jim Lewis
Heather Meyer
Scott Nelson
Keith Purnell
Seema Saleem
Glenn Shultz
Ian Simpson
James Stokes
2.0
Review Agenda
The agenda was reviewed and briefly discussed by Arne Logan.
3.0
Nadcap Health Metrics
AQS – A presentation on the AQS Health Metrics was given by Chris Diepenbrock. (See
attachment)
Chemical Processing (CP) – Mike Davis presented the Chemical Processing three
square chart. It was also noted that Staff Engineer Bill Dumas received Delegation. (See
attachment)
Coatings (CT) – Jim Doherty presented the Coatings three square chart. (See
attachment)
Nadcap PLANNING & OPERATIONS
Composites (Comp.) – The task group was not present as they were conducting
their first pilot audit. The task group’s three square chart was forwarded to the NMC
chair and was presented by Arne Logan. (See attachment)
Potential NMC Issues for the Composites task group were also presented by Arne
Logan. (See attachment)
Heat Treating (HT) – John Gourley presented the Heat Treating three square chart.
(See attachment)
Material Testing (MTL) – The task group is continuing to use interlaboratory testing.
The task group is attempting to address composite issues. The task group’s Skyline and
Merit metrics are green. The Certificates Issued metric is red and the task group is
working on this issue.
NMSE – Mark Gleason presented the NMSE three square chart. (See attachment)
NDT – Phil Keown presented the NDT three square chart. (See attachment).
The task group noted that two suppliers volunteered to write articles in the next NDT
newsletter.
Welding (WLD) – Wayne Canary presented the Welding three square chart. (See
attachment)
Nadcap PLANNING & OPERATIONS
4.0
Review Stop Light Criteria (Materiel Test & Welding) in light of NMC comments. (Ref:
Jan 8 e-mail sent to Task Group chairs)
The Stop Light Criteria for Material Testing and Welding were reviewed by Arne Logan.
(See attachment)
A motion was made to accept the Stop Light Criteria, with the exception of Cycle Time.
The motion was seconded and approved.
The NMC metrics to the PRI Board of Directors was touched upon. (See attachments)
Gap Analysis Audits were discussed. Concern was expressed by Primes that findings
from the Gap audits may go unreported.
A proposal was made to review past actions and the process for pre-assessment (gap
analysis) audits by a sub-team of NMC members and PRI staff and to report the findings
at the next NMC meeting in April of 2004. A motion was made to accept the proposal.
This motion was seconded and approved.
ACTION ITEM: Review Past actions and process for Pre-assessment (gap
analysis) audits by sub-team of NMC and PRI. Report out to be given at next NMC
meeting (April 2004)
A proposal was made to suspend all pre-assessment (gap analysis) audits until further
notice. However, if an accreditation audit was stopped and the supplier wanted to
continue that audit as a GAP, it could be done as long as all findings were reported and
posted via eAuditNet. A motion was made to accept this proposal. This motion was
seconded and approved.
ACTION ITEM: All Pre-assessment (gap analysis) audits to be suspended until
further notice. But if an accreditation audit is stopped and a supplier wants to
continue the audit as a GAP, it can be done as long as all findings are posted in
eAuditNet.
5.0
Baseline Criteria Team Report
NDT – The NDT task group is 80% complete regarding their Baseline initiative. Drafts
have been written for all five NDT checklists and are being reviewed and voted on during
the January 2004 meeting.
Nadcap PLANNING & OPERATIONS
Coatings (CT) – The Coatings Task group update on their Baseline initiative was given
by Jim Doherty. It also noted that a supplier had volunteered to have the baseline pilot
audit at their facility. (See attachments)
6.0
Cause & Effect Team Report
A report out was given on the status of the Cause and Effect Team by Jim Doherty. (See
attachment)
7.0
Chartered Projects Review Process
The process for Chartered Projects was reviewed by Don Buehler. (See attachment)
8.0
Review Pertinent Actions from NMC Steering Committee Meeting
The NMC Steering Committee discussed briefly an Ethics Issue regarding emails not
being classified as “Confidential”, the creation of a Language Team, metrics moving
forward, the start up of new task groups (Electronics, and Fasteners), and the balloting
process.
A new item of business was put forward regarding delegation by Arshad Hafeez. (See
attachment)
A proposal was made to collect data regarding delegation and report out at the quarterly
Planning and Operations meetings until the Board of Directors is satisfied with the data.
ACTION ITEM: TG's to be polled as to what Prime Management is directing review
of 100% of audit reports. TG members to come forward if their management has
asked them to review all audit reports in eAuditNet so this may be reported to
Board of Directors.
9.0
Adjourn