Composites/Non Metallic Materials Task Group
Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 24-27, 2014
NOVOTEL LONDON W EST
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
The Composites/Non Metallic Materials Task Group covers the following processes:
AC7118
AC7122 (P, I and R)
AC7124
Compression Molding
AC7122/1 - Mechanical Testing
AC7124/1 - Resin Manufacturing
Core Processing
AC7122/2 - Physical Testing
AC7124/2 - Prepreg Manufacturing
Liquid Resin Processing
AC7122/3 - Chemical Testing
AC7124/3 - Adhesives Manufacturing
Metal Bonding
AC7122/4 - Thermal Analysis
AC7124/4 – Core Manufacturing
Prepreg/Adhesive Bonding/Resin Film Infusion
AC7122/5 - Flammability
Notice 1:
Notice 2:
Notice 3:
All times are approximate and subject to change. Please contact PRI for updated information.
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consisting of: Call to Order/Quorum Check, Introductions (as needed), Routing of the Attendance List
(as needed)
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COMP/NMMT/NMMM Task Group Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 2014
Closed Meeting in ALL CAPS
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2014
AC7122 – Non Metallic Materials Testing
(NMMT)
9:00 AM (10 MINS)
1.0 Opening Comments
9:10 AM (30MINS)
2.0 Staff Report
9:40 AM (30 MINS)
3.0 Interlaboratory Proficiency Testing (IPT)
2015 Planning
3.1 DMA Improvements Sub-team
Report Out (RAIL Item #16)- Mike
Bemis
3.2 Additional Tests to Include (RAIL Item
#20)-John Tibma
3.3 Nominate New IPT Lead
10:10 AM (30 MINS)
4.0 RAIL Action Item #18 Report Out
10:40 AM (20 MINS)
20 Minute Break
11:00 AM (30 MINS)
5.0 Revised Procedure Review
11:30 (30 MINS)
6.0 Action Item Report Out
12:00 PM (60 MINS)
7.0 Open Discussion
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM
LUNCH BREAK
2:00 PM (10 MINS)
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS
2:10 PM (10 MINS)
9.0 SE DELEGATION REVIEW
2:20 PM (60 MINS)
10.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW
3:20 PM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
3:30 PM (60 MINS)
11.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY
4:30 PM (15 MINS)
12.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA
4:45 PM (30 MINS)
13.0 IPT TREND ANALYSIS
5:15 PM (15 MINS)
14.0 MEETING CLOSE OUT
5:30 PM
ADJOURNMENT
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2014
AC7124 – Non Metallic Materials
Manufacturing (NMMM)
9:00 AM – 10:00 AM
Supplier Orientation & Tutorial – An
introduction and overview of the Nadcap
program
9:00 AM (10 MINS)
1.0 Opening Comments
9:10 AM (30 MINS)
2.0 Staff Report
9:40 AM (20 MINS)
3.0 Revised Procedure Review
10:00 AM (30 MINS)
4.0 Action Item Report Out
10:30 AM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
10:40 AM (45 MINS)
5.0 SSC Report
11:25 AM (35 MINS)
6.0 Open Discussion
12:00 PM (60 MINS)
7.0 Joint Meeting with Elasomer Seals
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM
LUNCH BREAK
2:00 PM (10 MINS)
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS
2:10 PM (10 MINS)
8.0 STAFF ENGINEER DELEGATION REVIEW
2:20 PM (60 MINS)
9.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW
3:20 PM (30 MINS)
10.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA REVIEW
3:50 PM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
4:00 PM (45 MINS)
11.0 AC7124/5 PILOT AUDIT REPORT OUT
4:45 (30 MINS)
12.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY
5:15 PM (15 MINS)
13.0 MEETING CLOSE OUT
5:30 PM
ADJOURNMENT
5:00 PM – 7:00 PM
Supplier Support Committee Meeting - All
suppliers are encouraged to attend.
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2014
AC7118 – Composites (COMP)
9:00 AM (10 MINS)
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS
9:10 AM (10 MINS)
2.0 SE/ CONSULTANT REVIEWER
DELEGATION
9:20 AM (60 MINS)
3.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW
10:20 AM (15 MINS)
4.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA REVIEW
10:35 AM (25 MINS)
5.0 TRAINING THE TRAINING AUDITOR
11:00 AM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
11:10 AM (60 MINS)
6.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY
12:10 PM (50 MINS)
7.0 OPEN DISCUSSION
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM
LUNCH BREAK
2:00 PM (10 MINS)
1.0 Opening Comments
2:10 PM (30 MINS)
8.0 Staff Report
2:40 PM (20 MINS)
9.0 Revised Procedure Review
3:00 PM (30 MINS)
10.0 Supplier Survey Report Out
3:30 PM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
3:40 PM (30 MINS)
11.0 Audit Report Reviewer Delegation
4:10 PM (20 MINS)
12.0 Open Discussion
4:30 PM (15 MINS)
13.0 Meeting Close Out
4:45 PM
ADJOURNMENT
5:00 PM – 7:00 PM
Planning & Ops – Task Group Chairs and Staff
Engineers are required to attend.
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2014
9:00 AM – 11:00 AM
Nadcap Management Council Meeting – All
members are encouraged to attend this
informative and important meeting.
11:15 AM (10 MINS)
1.0 Opening Comments
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting
Conduct
1.3 Review Agenda
11:25 AM (95 MINS)
14.0 AMS2750/1 Draft Presentation &
Discussion
1:00 PM – 2:00 PM
LUNCH BREAK
2:00 PM (60 MINS)
15.0 Addition of Structural Bonding to
AC7118
3:00 PM (50 MINS)
16.0 Core Cutting vs. Core Machining
3:50 PM (10 MINS)
10 Minute Break
4:00 PM (45 MINS)
17.0 Addition of Continuous Fiber
Reinforced Thermoplastics to AC7118
4:45 PM (15 MINS)
18.0 Action Item Report Out
5:00 PM (45 MINS)
19.0 Open Discussion
5:45 PM (15 MINS)
20.0 Meeting Close Out
6:00 PM
ADJOURNMENT
COMP/NMMT/NMMM Task Group Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 2014
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2014
AC7122 Non Metallic Materials Testing (NMMT)
1.0 Opening Comments
1.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check
9:00 am
10 minutes

Review Membership Status

Introductions
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
John Key
John Tibma
1.3 Acceptance of Meeting Minutes
1.4 Review Agenda
2.0 Staff Report
9:10 am
30 minutes
9:40 am
30 minutes
O
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Recent Activities

Auditor Status

Audit Statistical Summary

Future Meeting Information
John Tibma
3.0 Interlaboratory Proficiency Testing (IPT) 2015 Planning
3.1 DMA Improvements Sub-team Report Out (RAIL Item #16)- Mike Bemis
Mike Bemis
3.2 Additional Tests to Include (RAIL Item #20)-John Tibma
John Tibma
3.3 Nominate New IPT Lead
4.0 RAIL Action Item #18 Report Out
10:10 am
30 minutes

AH7122 IPT participation clarification

Internal Round Robin Testing Guidelines Development
Mike Bemis
20 Minute Break
10:40 am
5.0 Revised Procedure Review
11:00 am
30 minutes

Review of any procedures revised since previous Nadcap Meeting

NOP-012 Auditor Consistency Update - John Key
6.0 Action Item Report Out
11:30
7.0 Open Discussion

60 minutes
John Key
Various
30 minutes
12:00 pm
John Tibma
This time has been set aside to discuss any new topics that are brought forward
Various
LUNCH BREAK
1:00 pm – 2:00 pm
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS, CLOSED MEETING
1.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check
2:00 pm

10 minutes

Verify Only Subscriber Members in Attendance
John Key
John Tibma
Introductions
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
1.3 Review Agenda
9.0 STAFF ENGINEER DELEGATION REVIEW
2:10 pm
10 minutes
John Tibma
10.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW
2:20 pm
60 minutes
3:20 pm
3:30 pm
60 minutes
4:30 pm
15 minutes
4:45 pm
C
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D
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Auditor Statistics

Review Submitted Observation Audit Feedback Forms

Observation Audit Statistical Review
10 Minute Break
11.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY

Discuss additions to NTGOP appendix to comply with NOP-012

Observation Audit Planning
12.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA REVIEW

Annual statistical review of failure criteria
13.0 IPT TREND ANALYSIS (RAIL ITEM #13)
30 minutes
5:15 pm
14.0 MEETING CLOSE OUT
Keith Panuska
John Tibma
Mike Bemis
John Key
15 minutes
5:30 pm
John Tibma
ADJOURNMENT
COMP/NMMT/NMMM Task Group Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 2014
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2014
AC7124 – Non Metallic Materials Manufacturing (NMMM)
Supplier Orientation & Tutorial – An introduction and overview of the Nadcap program
9:00 am – 10:00 am
1.0 Opening Comments
1.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check
9:00 am
10 minutes

Review Membership Status

Introductions
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
John Key
John Tibma
1.3 Acceptance of Meeting Minutes
1.4 Review Agenda
2.0 Staff Report
9:10 am
30 minutes
9:40 am
O
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N
20 minutes

Recent Activities

Auditor Status

Audit Statistical Summary

Future Meeting Information
John Tibma
3.0 Revised Procedure Review

Review of any procedures revised since previous Nadcap Meeting

NOP-012 Auditor Consistency Update – John Key
4.0 Action Item Report Out
10:00 am
10 Minute Break
10:40 am
5.0 SSC Report

45 minutes
Updates from the Supplier Support Committee
6.0 Open Discussion
11:25 am

35 minutes
This time has been set aside to discuss any new topics that are brought forward
7.0 Joint Meeting with Elasomer Seals
12:00 pm

60 minutes
John Key
Various
30 minutes
10:30 am
John Tibma
Is there overlap between materials our task groups cover?
John Tibma
Various
Mannie
Koucouthakis
LUNCH BREAK
1:00 pm – 2:00 pm
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS, CLOSED MEETING
1.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check
2:00 pm

10 minutes

Verify only Subscriber Members are in attendance
John Key
John Tibma
Introductions
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
1.3 Review Agenda
8.0 STAFF ENGINEER DELEGATION REVIEW
2:10 pm
10 minutes
John Tibma
9.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW
2:20 pm
60 minutes
3:20 pm
30 minutes
C
L
O
S
E
D

Auditor Statistics

Review Submitted Observation Audit Feedback Forms

Observation Audit Statistical Review
10.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA REVIEW

Estalish initial failure criteria (and associated merit criteria)
3:50 pm
10 Minute Break
4:00 pm
11.0 AC7124/5 PILOT AUDIT REPORT OUT
45 minutes
4:45
30 minutes
5:15 pm
12.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY

Discuss additions to NTGOP appendix to comply with NOP-012

John Tibma
John Tibma
Laura Benedetti
Keith Panuska
Observation Audit Planning
13.0 MEETING CLOSE OUT
John Key
15 minutes
5:30 pm
ADJOURNMENT
5:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Supplier Support Committee Meeting - All suppliers are encouraged to attend.
COMP/NMMT/NMMM Task Group Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 2014
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2014
AC7118 – Composites (COMP)
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS, CLOSED MEETING
1.1 Call to order/Quorum Check
9:00 am

Verify only Subscriber Members are in attendance
10 minutes

Introductions
John Key
John Tibma
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
1.3 Review Agenda
2.0 STAFF ENGINEER/CONSULTANT REVIEWER DELEGATION REVIEW
9:10 am
10 minutes
9:20 am
60 minutes
10:20 am
C
L
O
S
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D
3.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE REVIEW

Auditor Statistics

Review Submitted Observation Audit Feedback Forms

Observation Audit Statistical Review
4.0 MODE B FAILURE CRITERIA REVIEW

15 minutes
Annual statistical review of failure criteria
5.0 TRAINING THE TRAINING AUDITOR
10:35 am

25 minutes
Auditor Observation Sub-team to report on training plan development (RAIL #31)
11:00 am
10 Minute Break
11:10 am
6.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY

Discuss additions to NTGOP appendix to comply with NOP-012
60 minutes


John Tibma
John Tibma
Keith Panuska
Keith Panuska
Observation Audit Planning
7.0 OPEN DISCUSSION
12:10 pm
50 minutes
John Tibma
This time has been set aside to discuss any new topics that are brought forward
Various
LUNCH BREAK
1:00 pm – 2:00 pm
1.0 Opening Comments
8.1 Call to order/Quorum Check
2:00 pm
10 minutes

Review Membership Status

Introductions
1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct
John Key
John Tibma
1.3 Acceptance of Meeting Minutes
1.4 Review Agenda
8.0 Staff Report
2:10 pm

Recent Activities
30 minutes

Auditor Status

Audit Statistical Summary

Future Meeting Information
2:40 pm
20 minutes
3:00 pm
30 minutes
3:30 pm
O
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John Tibma
9.0 Revised Procedure Review

Review of any procedures revised since previous Nadcap Meeting

NOP-012 Auditor Consistency Update – John Key
10.0 Supplier Survey Report Out (RAIL Item #1)

Results of Supplier Survey
John Tibma
John Key
Vitorio Stana
10 Minute Break
11.0 Audit Report Reviewer Delegation - Minimum Requirements to Maintain Delegation
3:40 pm

30 minutes
4:10 pm
20 minutes
4:30 pm
Develop a proposal for minimum criteria to be met to maintain Audit Report
Reviewer Delegation. How many audits are required? Is this over a specific period
of time? (RAIL Item #42)
12.0 Open Discussion

This time has been set aside to discuss any new topics that are brought forward
13.0 Meeting Close Out
John Key
Various
John Key
15 minutes
4:45 pm
ADJOURNMENT
5:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Planning & Ops – Task Group Chairs and Staff Engineers are required to attend.
COMP/NMMT/NMMM Task Group Meeting Agenda
FEBRUARY 2014
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2014
AC7118 – Composites (COMP)
9:00 am – 11:00 am
Nadcap Management Council Meeting – All members are encouraged to attend this informative and important meeting.
1.0 Opening Comments
11:15 am
10 minutes
1.1 Call to order/Quorum Check
O
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N
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1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct

Sub-team to present revised draft (RAIL Item #43)
15.0 Addition of Structural Bonding to AC7118
2:00 pm

60 minutes
Presentation of revised 16h checklist proposal (RAIL Item #55)

50 minutes
Sub-team to present revised addition to AH7118 to clarify the distinction between
core cutting and core machining (RAIL Item #51)
O
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17.0 Addition of Continuous Fiber Reinforced Thermoplastics to AC7118

Discuss subscriber support for this potential checklist addition
18.0 Action Item Report Out
5:45 pm
19.0 Open Discussion

This time has been set aside to discuss any new topics that are brought forward
20.0 Meeting Close Out
Various
John Key
15 minutes
6:00 pm
John Tibma
Various
15 minutes
5:00 pm
Jeremy Phillips
10 Minute Break
3:50 pm
45 minutes
Andreas
Mastorakis
16.0 Core Cutting vs. Core Machining
3:00 pm
4:45 pm
Bryan Loveless
LUNCH BREAK
1:00 pm – 2:00 pm
4:00 pm
John Tibma
1.3 Review Agenda
14.0 AMS2750/1 Draft Presentation & Discussion
11:25 am
95 minutes
45 minutes
John Key
Introductions
ADJOURNMENT