Week 5: The Award Phase - Discussion Negotiating Case Study (graded) Read and review the "BBC vs. Info R Us" Case located in Doc Sharing, let's discuss the following questions: How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? How does this relate to the negotiating assignment? What if Bennie ignores Dan's recommendations during the negotiation with BBC? How does this relate to what you learned in the negotiating assignment? What impact will company politics have on this negotiation? What risks exist for Dan at this point? How does this relate to what you learned in our negotiating assignment? Also, consider if you have been in a similar situation and how you handled the situation. Did you use any of the best practices discussed this week in that negotiation? Responses Response • How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Anthony Mayo his negotiating session with BBC? Author Date/Time 5/27/2012 1:27:05 PM I really like Dan’s idea of “trying to accommodate” BBC where possible, given that BBC has underbid the project over the three years that Info R Us has worked with them. It’s a sign of good will to try and accommodate. Additionally, Dan noted that BBC has consistently sought out discounts even after underbidding; I view these circumstances as serious. Perhaps BBC can’t afford a more expensive vendor or is having cash flow issues. The fact that “Info-R-Us” has established them-selves with BBC, over a three year period, their product and service familiarity could provide a leveraging opportunity for the Info-R-Us company. Given that Dan wants to keep the BBC contract, it seems that he should operate fairly and go into negotiations from a value-added standpoint, highlighting past and current performance, seeking an honest discussion of circumstances. Such an approach will still provide the room for a mutual profit discussion and could reveal information that leads Dan down a more creative approach. For example, competitors with Info-R-Us may be able to match Dan’s price offering but they would not have the history of performance or ongoing performance measures that could be incentivized within a newer business model. The pricing issue may offer some room for negotiations in overhead if a lower price has to be sought in exchange for an extension of the current contract terms, etc. In essence, I think that an established history should carry some unspoken leveraging advantages that perhaps would not be available to newer vendors. During negotiations risk is always involved despite one’s position. I therefore think that Dan’s strategy should include some pricing incentives that are tied into the current existing business model as a potential to extend his current contract. Relying upon business history will provide wiggle room for cost adjustments that could be offset in overhead if needed; I would travel that avenue as the goal should be to retain the current client. RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Professor Gordon his negotiating session with BBC? 5/29/2012 10:37:14 PM Anthony, What about Bennie's view? All the best, Robert RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, Ruchi Galande prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/30/2012 7:56:14 PM According to my understanding Bennie is considering BBC will shop around other vendors also before taking any decision about Info R Us. He knows the market prices are lower than the Info R Us and don’t want give any chance to BBC to think about outside vendors. His plan is less price will attract the BBC and they can agree to have same delivery schedule. Although he understand the risks of less price and considering the no change id delivery schedule will be helpful to Info R Us to make profit. RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, Teanna Soule prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/30/2012 9:01:42 PM It appears that Bernie, although keeping in mind that a profit must be made, is not taking the risk BBC is posing into view. Just because a program comes in on schedule doesn't mean the product is what the customer wants, quality wise. Likewise, bidding a low price with high risk of overrunning not only puts Info R Us at risk of losing profit but also puts the brand at risk of poor press of ideas like bidding low for the business but overruning a budget. Ultimately, the company should try to hold their ground, if they want a lower cost, without having a meaningful estimate to support a lower cost (i.e. lower cost of materials, improved productivity = less hours required...) then negotiations to remove scope should be considered. Bottomline is that if BBC can't afford a product, Info R Us isn't going to give it away. RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Latosha Smiley his negotiating session with BBC? 5/28/2012 11:13:14 AM BBC wants delivery of the product earlier then originally expected and with larger discounts. I agree with you Anthony, the fact that BBC is seeking a cheeper vendor or steeper discount may indicate that the company is in financial trouble. The fact that they have been conducting business with BBC for three years places the company at an advantage. However Dan is a little cocky in my opinion. His overconfidence in accomplishing the desired task at a quicker pace with limited financial resources may result in project termination. Dan is not willing to consider his companies needs throughout the negotiation process or the fact that BBC lacks proper planning skills which has previously lead to higher costs than planned. In efforts to make a profit Info R Us must consider BBC's previous performance. In efforts to enter into negotiation both Dan and Bennie must be on the same page. After reading the case study they do not agree with what needs to be done throughout the negotiation process. If they can not come to a common understanding the contract may fail to go through or Info R us may not be able to pull through with their end of the negotiation. RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, Anthony Mayo prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/28/2012 11:34:12 AM Excellent synopsis Latosha as I think that you hit the crux of the “disconnect” between both companies. I think that Dan has a sense of what he is seeking within his proposed negotiations with BBC. It’s always easier to renegotiate a bid, contract or terms of a contract after a bidder and contractor have laid the groundwork of what’s required for both entities. The existing contract and relationship has fostered that process. I would advise Dan to believe BBC’s issues of cash flow and pivot his negotiations from that standpoint, coupled with the needs of his firm, and his desire to continue his firm’s business relationship with BBC. Trust has been laid within the foundation from the currently existing contract and should be built upon and described more fully through an honest assessment and fleshing out of corporate needs; the new Preaward process will permit that process. These are solid tools for the negotiation process for both companies. Knowing the tools that are accessible, reliable and which have been winning strategies can make the difference within a renegotiation. Info-R-Us has some concrete needs that can be tooled into honest negotiation tactics that can leverage a successful strategy with their current client BBC but I think that trust is foundational to these discussions. RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, Latosha Smiley prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/29/2012 9:09:27 PM A Mayo, You are RIGHT!! The companies have already established a level of trust among them building a contract based off the existing relationship would be easy, BBC must not feel like their needs are not being met while at the same time Info R Us need not make promises they may not be able to keep in efforts to land the contract. The bottom line is financial gain! RE: • How should Dan, as the contract manager, Dennis Granlund prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/29/2012 7:49:24 PM I agree and have seen overconfidence and the feeling that they can do no wrong lead to failure too many times. You have to focus on the task , scope and value of the contract. How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for his Levonde Jones 5/28/2012 4:44:43 PM negotiating session with BBC? How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? Dan needs to focus and stick to an approved business plan. Dan should NOT lower the price. Dan needs to communicate with Bennie before the meeting with BBC, to come to an agreement to resolve negotiation disagreements. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Cynthia Mcgowan his negotiating session with BBC? 5/30/2012 5:20:23 AM I agree with you Levonde, I think that it would benefit Dan and Bennie to consider this contract modification as critically as it was considered the first time that the contract was negotiated. And, the same amount of analysis should go into it. They should be using the best practices, one of which is that they should develop a solid and approved team negotiation plan; which means that they need to negotiate with each other and determine were each of their standings measure up with the goals of the organization. As a part of this, they will have to determine if the risk of lowering the price will put them in a position to have to undercut on quality just to continue to make a profit later, which could hurt them more in the long run. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, Martial Yao prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 5/30/2012 5:59:59 PM Dan knows very well the other party and he thinks that Info R us will have more and more difficulties to perform the contract if they don’t pay attention to details. Since three years, BBC is pushing them to offer larger discount; reduce the profit again is not a good idea for Dan. But Bennie, the new sales manager, has his own idea and does not want to listen too much Dan; I disagree with his attitude; he needs to understand very well the whole image and takes into account Dan’s view. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, Cynthia Mcgowan prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 6/1/2012 6:47:34 PM I agree with you martial, I also think that Bennie may have done his analysis based on data that does not include the "actuals" from past experiences that Dan has had. Bennie also seems to be focused on only the short term goal of retaining the contract, and not looking out for the long term missions and goals of the organization. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Lorenzo Welch his negotiating session with BBC? 5/30/2012 11:19:45 PM I think Dan has done his research he has worked the contract for 3 years is well knowledgeable on financial status of contract. He clearly knows the other party and wanted to give Bennie some background information before they started negotiations. If Beenie, ignores Dan the company could lose financially offering a a low bid. Politically Dan and Beenie sounds like they need to meet to discuss strategy for negotiations they are not on the same page. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, Jennifer Weaver prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 6/1/2012 9:14:57 AM I agree that it is critical that these two get on the same page with their strategy and approach with this negotiation. There is a potential that money could be lost if both individuals do not understand the other approach and I think this might also lead back to the importance of best practices and strategy definition. RE: Negotiating Case Study Anthony Collins 5/28/2012 9:25:06 PM Modified:5/28/2012 9:27 PM Dan should take a closer look at Bennie’s suggestion (lower price but control over the schedule) and compare to his plan (not budging on the price) and see if there is any room for compromise. However, since Dan has greater experience working with BBC, he probably knows what he is talking about but since he has already used that argument, he will have to show Bennie on paper why he is right or where there is room for compromise. Do this and he will have gained Bennie’s respect and will find that future negotiations with Bennie will come more from a position of strength. I don’t think that Bennie ignoring Dan’s recommendations will do either he, Dan, or the company any good. He is staking the company’s viability of retaining such a valuable account on emotion. He is new to the situation and knows too little about the account to just discount Dan’s opinion on the matter. After all, it is predicated on a wider experience base. Dan may could have considered a wiser approach in which he utilized the win-lose negotiation strategy in which he concealed his own position/interest, revealed Bennie’s position/interest, and somehow weakened his resolve to the point that Bennie willingly either accepted his position on the key issues or at least modified some of his positions. This strategy to be used of course if there is no way to implement a win-win negotiation strategy. Winning or losing a negotiation can just be a matter of one’s perspective. In order to find out, one has to compare the situation outcome to whether you got all that you wanted or how close you got to your best or worst case scenario. (World Class Contracting, 5th Edition. CCH p. 153). <vbk:978-0-8080-2568-9#outline(9.1.3.5)> RE: Negotiating Renee Gordon Case Study 5/30/2012 2:16:06 PM Dan and Bennie do need to come to an agreement on how to handle negotiations with BBC. If they cannot agree internally, how can they expect to keep BBC's business? I agree that both Dan and Bennie need to show the other on paper where they are coming from and how they arrived at their numbers. If they worked together, they might even be able to combine their ideas to provide a unique solution that will benefit both Info R Us and BBC. RE: Negotiating Tamika Francis Case Study 5/30/2012 11:35:44 PM In a corporate setting sometimes it can be very necessary to layout on paper your argument. This is for two reasons so that you have documented proof of your stated objections and so that can see visual why you are making the decision you are making. There have been many times that my boss and I do not agree on a decision and while ultimately her decision is usually the final decision I will frequently send her an email or show her a print out of why i'm doing something with cash budgeting etc. While this may not always change her decision it does very often let her understand where i'm going with my decision making. RE: Negotiating Lorenzo Welch Case Study 6/2/2012 10:11:44 PM Tamika it sounds like you have manager that is open to your suggestions. In addition I think that as long information is looked at objectively then a decision can be made. When business decisions become personal you tend to lose sight of objective. Clearly presenting facts qualitative and quantitative should help with reasoning. RE: Negotiating Tamika Francis Case Study 6/2/2012 10:28:15 PM She is a very open manager and it helps for us to work well together. There are many business decisions that I am not privy too and it can be difficult in decision making. But there are also areas where she is not privy to either. This means the information that we need can not trickle downs so that we make informed decisions and yes to objectives can get lost. But I have noticed that this is frequently the case in larger corporate setting where as in smaller companies there is more of an information flow. This though has been my experience since I have worked in both large and small company settings. What would Professor Gordon you do? 5/28/2012 10:01:06 PM Class, What would you do if you were Dan's boss? All the best, Robert RE: What would Anthony Mayo you do? 5/29/2012 12:29:16 PM If I were Dan’s boss, and needed to act fast, I would suggest that Dan manage the upcoming contract, leveraging a potential re-negotiation of component items from the current contract items that are robust features of the existing contract with BBC, into the new contract. The only way that I would consider cost differentials would be if increased numbers of units were included within the new contract but then I would offer a bulk rate that offset the unit price differential so that the potential of parity of profits existed for Info-R-Us – just like the increase in the bulk amounts of product at the new bulk rate would insure more profit for BBC. My rationale and strategy for this approach is that the client is seeking a cost reduction as a means of improving their profit margin and Dan’s firm would be seeking continued business, with minimally maintaining costs at their current levels with the distribution of more product as a means of improving their profit margin. I would advise Dan to follow this approach and to explore the value based commitments from the current contract as potential areas of changes to terms within the negotiation of the new contract. I would advise Dan to look for ways to cut costs on internal production and distribution, while also seeking areas where more products can be built into the new contract. Perhaps delivery terms of the product can be adjusted based upon bulk packaging as an internal cost saving mechanism. Contract provisions can be either enhancing to a product’s value or they can pose a threat. Since the threat of diminishing costs generally coincides with the perception of a weakened product, I would be hesitant on lowering unit costs; however, not working out some sort of a deal with an existing vendor carries the risk of no future repeat business deals. Therefore Dan must plan an internal cost strategy as well as an external pitch for the sales position of InfoR-Us - honest and truthful negotions is what I would suggest. I would also encourage Bennie to obtain cost data on competitor companies whom he asserts, produces and distributes, the exact same product at the discounted rate of close to 15% – market research. Perhaps the market research will provide information that can be leveraged within the discussions with BBC such as "perhaps our competitors are able to offer lower costs because their using cheaper component materials for production". Also, perhaps there are some trend data that show that production costs can be lowered by using alternative methods that could provide a shared sense of costs savings - that would make for a wonderful discussion between the vendor and client, as well. If Info-R-Us were able to realize a lower production cost and pitch a sharing of the cost savings within their sales pitch to BBC, that type of strategy could create more good will, show their transparency of business practice while sending a solid message of trust that could be transformational for future business. The answer to the direction in which “In-R-Us” should proceed may reside within a thorough competitor's market analysis. I would suggest that Dan meet again with Bennie, after Bennie has constructed the market research analyses. At that point, internal business costing points would be on the table, a market analyses would be on the table and Dan would have also devised a worse case scenario based strategy of assuming that the prices remain currently fixed. RE: What would Latosha Smiley you do? 5/29/2012 9:30:08 PM A Mayo, There is nothing much that can be said behind that! it is obvious you have contract management experience! The only thing I would add is to coach Dan on his arrogance. Sometimes over confidence can jeopardize a contract. With the company implementing new technologies (new to Info R US) there may be some compatibility issues with the equipment that have not yet been measured/seen in other applications. Promising to install the new equipment in a shorter period of time may result in contract breach. RE: What would Jennifer Weaver you do? 6/2/2012 7:50:44 PM Yes, overconfidence can be devasting even if the person is more then capable of handling and assignment and doing the right thing. I once had a boss say something I thought was very unusual, he said unerring promise and over deliver and know what you are capable of. This has kept me humble and understanding that when you do act with arrogance and you do miss a target(eventually you will) you have a lot of egg on your face and your reputation will sour quickly . RE: What would Felicia Walters you do? 5/31/2012 8:45:27 PM I would certainly advise that before making any kinds of promises that may further impede the contract, the legal department should be consulted. There are certain ways where the consultant can respond to keep the process moving without damaging the chances of a successful close. RE: What would Martial Yao you do? 6/1/2012 5:05:29 PM If I was the boss of Dan, I would conduct a serious study that will help to identify my leeway, the ins and outs of each option I can consider in the negotiation. What are the impacts of each option? The answer will help to make the decision. RE: What would Felicia Walters you do? 6/3/2012 11:45:01 PM I believe the study should expand beyond the impacts of the option on just the surface. It's important to consider that changes, ever so, subtle can affect future contracts and negotiations. A checklist approach should possibly be employed. RE: What Teanna Soule 6/2/2012 10:49:52 AM would you do? Anthony, This is terrific feedback as a learning mechanism for the class. You discuss means from the Best Practices to ensure a best case scenario for the buyer and seller, as well as explain how to go about and when to go about determining a worst case scenario. I love that you have allowed Bennie to maintain his enthusiasm while controlling his actions to prevent chaos. I see in your feedback where you look for the most practicle means of pricing where maintaining the best value to the buyer, ensure market research is conducted to counter claims rather than taking the word as final on pricing. You show that it is important to keep the seller apart of the negotiation process as a team and are looking at what's best for both parties and the big picture for both parties. I would add to my comment from our text which you provide an understanding of HOW THIS IS DONE - Thank you!: "Source selection is a matter of the buyer's choosing the right seller for the situation. However, the process used to accomplish this varies dramatically depending on the company, the products or services involved, the complexity of the procurement, and many other factors. The current trend is to spend more time planning and conducting source selection to obtain the best source of supply and then to establish a long-term contract. Thus, fewer source selection efforts are needed." (Garrett 160) Garrett, Gregory A.. World Class Contracting, 5th Edition. CCH. <vbk:978-0-8080-2568-9#outline(9.3)>. RE: What would Ray Stout you do? 5/29/2012 1:33:43 PM Interesting question, as Dan's boss is the next stop for Bernie, if he can't find satisfaction with Dan in helping with this contract. With that being said, i think Anthony C. said it best, in an other cahin, that the best course of action is for both Bernie and Dan to attempt to look at the negotiation from the other point of view. Yes, Dan has experience with dealing with the BBC company, but Bernie might have a new approach that might work. So as Dan's boss, i woudl tell both fo them to switch positions. Dan operate from the idea of lowering the price 15% and finding documentation via market research and competition to support that idea. Bernie on the other hand has to prove dan's position woudl work. This woudl develop a level of trust between both parties that they are willing to look at the others point of view and both can come to a consensus. The really sad thing is this is what should happen any way to help alleviate the problem in stead of just getting angry. I think there is actually a negotiation within the team as how to handle a formal negotiation. Taking the time to make sure the entire team is on board with a single direction creates a position of strength which either answer can be looked at and evaluated. enjoy, ray RE: What would Latosha Smiley you do? 5/30/2012 11:58:46 AM Ray, Even if it does not build trust between the two parties it will definitely open them up to the other parties perspective. Often times we are closed minded to the things we are not familiar with. By challenging them to do the other persons job it will definitely force them to understand the other parties point of view and enter the negotiation process on the same page. RE: What would Professor Gordon you do? 5/30/2012 9:24:22 PM Latosha / Ray, Have you seen it work in the past before? What usually happens when you try to get two people with different points of view to work together? All the best, Robert RE: What would Jennifer Weaver you do? 6/3/2012 10:16:13 PM I think this appraoch can work and I have also been a party in making it work. The only requirements are that the people are on even playing ground and they both have the ability to express their ideas and opinions without the threats involved in employee/manager relationships. They must beon equal levels of authority to make this work. You cannot take the employee and the boss in the room and have them duke it out, you can however take manager 1 andmanager 2 in a room and let them go at it, they will likely start to see each others point of view if they are both being help accountable to produce results by someone at a higher level then both of them. RE: What would Ray Stout you do? 5/31/2012 4:40:49 AM Not only have i seen it work in the past, but i have been a party to it. I was so focused and committed to a particular way of doing things that i didn't understand the new way to look at it. WHen my boss forced both of us to switch roles and prove why that other answer would work, we proved each other right. In the end ,we were able to come to a common ground because we were able to see the perspective the other party was looking at in regards to the problem. Maybe this was an isolated incident, but i have used the technique before when two direct reports couldn't get on the same page and for the most part it works out. THre are always some occasions that neither party wants to budge and just goes about proving why the other person is wrong out of spite. This take more coachingand communication, but once both aprties were shown that it takes an open mind to look at the problem from every available angle, some times the rush answer is not always the most correct one. enjoy, ray RE: What would Anthony Collins you do? 6/1/2012 8:13:25 PM I think unless the two people are mature, good listeners, have a stake in and/or are motivated to cooperate and work out workplace challenges together, that the two will miss the forest for the trees, so to speak. They will fail to realize the potential value, to one another and the business, of working with one another. Oftentimes getting two such people to realize this value, is incumbent upon their direct leadership. The leadership has to make them realize that there is nothing unusual about having different points of view but what is unusual is allowing the different viewpoints to impede productivity. If leadership fails to get them to understand this, then he/she risks allowing something undesirable to occur that may even get out of control To sum up what I’ve stated, it can work, but, it probably won’t unless leadership gets involved and ensures that the two are ready to work together. RE: What would Lorenzo Welch you do? 6/2/2012 10:21:53 PM Ray that is a interesting suggestion to have Dan and Bennie change responsibilities. This is clever because it encourages them both to work together and understand each other. Because they are so eager to prove each other wrong any loopholes in there case would be identified quickly. If they reach a consensus ideas will be generated to solve problem that they both have. RE: What would Dennis Granlund you do? 6/3/2012 12:08:42 PM One thing would be to sit down and discuss some customer service skills and determine why he is so arrogant and give him some literature to read on leadership and teamwork. Attempt to get the conversation in an open and honest manner. Drive the point that progressive and effective leaders appear to be flexible in their decisions – especially decisions that impact others. The adaptive nature of leaders shows the ability to adapt to new information or circumstances. This is in sharp contrast to the arrogant leader that tends to ignore new information or circumstances. He needs to become open to new information and then think about ways you could use that information to be more effective. Company politics Jared Shoemaker 5/29/2012 5:46:09 PM Company politics could play a big part in the negotiation, if Bennie didn't like Dan he would not listen to him and do what he wants which could be completely wrong for the company. The negotiator might do what they feel is better for them over what is better for the company. Company politics shouldn't be a part of the negotiation, it should be only what is good for the company. RE: Company David Fore politics 6/3/2012 6:43:00 AM Hello Jared, I agree with you , company politics always seem to play a role in business decisions. Alot of negotiaters contract business based upon the politics that their particular company. This may not be best for the company, but it is usually at the request of someone higher. Negotiations should work to achieve the best deal that they possibly can. It is also important that both parties understand what it is that they are negotiating. RE: Company Professor Gordon politics 5/29/2012 10:38:44 PM Jared, I agree but many times company politics is more important than the negotiation. Do you agree? All the best, Robert RE: Company Anthony Collins politics 5/30/2012 9:17:15 PM I would be inclined to agree. Company politics is more important in its capacity to shape negotiations. The political climate could be toxic, it could be cooperative, etc. but it definitely comes out during negotiations which is why so much time is spent establishing a company political climate that is conducive to cooperation and collaboration. RE: Company Jared Shoemaker politics 6/3/2012 4:58:39 PM That is a good point and that is the hope that when a company sits down to negotiate there will be no politics affecting the negotiation. But even with a cooperation and collaboration environment there is still a little politics that affects who is liked by who, who wants to advance quickly and who wants to stay were they are. RE: Company Ruchi Galande politics 6/3/2012 5:41:46 PM Jared I agree with you at the negotiation part politics should not be involved but many time political influences involves. In BBC Vs Info R Us case when Bennie decided not listen to Dan's advice at that time only company politics started between them. Now it doesn’t matter Info R Us will get BBC contract or not this political issue will be remain in the company. RE: Company Felicia Walters politics 6/3/2012 11:46:54 PM Jared - you are so right. I kind of get the feeling that there is always a rat race taking place. Everyone has intentions. It can be difficult to fully ascertain what they are, who they involve, and on what level. If not approached professionally, these can be a serious hindrance to any professional setting in addition to contract negotiations. RE: Company Jennifer Weaver politics 6/1/2012 9:20:28 AM I agree that company politics do have a lot to do with the negotiation and can influence it but the companies best interests is what should drive the negotiation. Politics is what sometimes gets in the way of tough decisions and the best possible decision because personal interests conflict with organizational interests. RE: Company Yelena Magid politics 6/3/2012 9:31:04 PM Company politics are very influential when deciding who will lead negations and have a primary authority. Once a person that heavily involved in politics is in charge, expect conflicts in a team consisting of people more qualified for this job. The decision process during negation would be influenced by company politics. RE: Company Jared Shoemaker politics 6/2/2012 3:58:49 PM I agree, people are going to do what they think is best for them over what is best for the company or the negotiation. No matter how low key people act, if they find something that will help them advance or get what they want they will go out of their little area to get that advantage and make themselves seem important so they will be kept around. That is why you have to make sure that everyone that works together likes each other and will be happy working with all the people in the group. One little thing and a project could suffer. How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? Tara Miller 5/29/2012 5:47:39 PM Dan should first understand that he is going to have to give a little for the other party to give some. Contract negotiation is a process that involves input from both parties. He should not be so rigid with his company's point of view but should instead identify and prioritize the objectives that he feels will be important in the negotiation. Despite the info that he received, he should also get more data about the other party and understand their side of the business relationship. He should also create some options and make them flexible so that both parties would be willing to negotiate. He should select his negotiation strategy, tactics and countertactics and develop a sold and approved team negotiation plan. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, prepare for Tara Miller his negotiating session with BBC? 6/2/2012 6:54:35 PM If Bennie ignores Dan's recommendations and he has stated as such, he might need to be removed from the negotiation process. If Dan really feels compelled that he is right and can back up his statements with accurate facts, then he should probably remove Bennie from the picture. Bennie might negatively affect negotiations if Bennie feels strongly that his statements are true. RE: How should Dan, as the contract manager, Tara Miller prepare for his negotiating session with BBC? 6/3/2012 1:49:18 PM Not just in this situation but company politics can affect any situation. They can negatively affect the situation or positively affect the situation. It sounds like to me that based on what Dan is saying, they despite giving BBC the best work or product possible, that BBC could expect more. With this situation I would suggest that to first offer the product as it is outlined and if more is expected than have a modification done to add the changes. By trying to add more requirements after the contract has been signed, it is best to get them into writing. Not only will this help outline the new expectations but also will make more work on the client by getting a modification done. This will help to eliminate outrageous expectations since it is going to require the client to negotiate and issue a modification. With the situation with BBC trying to keep costs down, the subcontractor must outline specifically why the costs are what they are and keep them updated as to any changes. In these situations it shows that yes company politics do play a part in the situation but if they can find a way to make it work for them then they can turn the situation around. if Bennie ignores Dan's recommendations Tiffany Terrell 5/29/2012 8:35:57 PM Bennie could cause the the current or desired contract with BBC to dramatically change if he ignores Dan's recommendations. I feel as if both individuals have brought up valid points however it's important to work together as a team and to put together a plan before meeting with BBC. There should or needs to be a very solid negotiation plan that has been approved by the team prior to the meeting. The buyer will be able to pick up on the fact that the seller's team is not in agreement and could very well take advantage of them. RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Professor Gordon recommendations 5/29/2012 10:40:39 PM Tiffany, Do you feel that it will work if they continue to disagree? What will impact the negotiation? All the best, Robert RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Tiffany Terrell recommendations 6/2/2012 3:15:12 PM I do not feel that it will work if they're not able to come up with some form of agreement as far as how they will proceed with moving forward with the contract negotiations. Again, they need to focus on putting together a solid plan prior to meeting with the client. Most buyers are able to pick up if there is some form of disconnect with the seller's organization and they could very well possibly use that to their advantage. Bennie and Dan could cause BBC to have major contract issues in the end. RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Latosha Smiley recommendations 5/30/2012 12:02:05 PM It they continue to disagree it in have a negative impact on the negotiation process because both parties have a different perspective as to what should be accomplished and how. As Ray stated I believe the boss should force them to do the other persons job and conduct research on the other parties perspective. This may help clear up any misconceptions. RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Dennis Granlund recommendations 5/31/2012 7:22:23 PM I agree the boss needs to make them job shadow and learn the others role and challenges to help them understand that each position has its good and bad including challenges that affect overall performance. It would help them learn and understand how they could work together and make life easier in the long run. RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Matthew Hartman recommendations 5/30/2012 8:34:08 PM Tiffany Great thoughts there. Absolutely agree with the changing in the contract. Both parties appear extremely confident and moreso WANT to move forward with their own thoughts - butting heads here. I do agree with picking up the disagreement... however I think that there would be a notion of disorganization and no direction and may look elsewhere because of this. Building on what you've said - I mentioned in another post - there is also a risk of losing profit and revenue. This isn't just a one time transaction deal. This is a concern that could conceivably turn into a long term or permanent issue. RE: if Bennie ignores Dan's Renee Gordon recommendations 5/31/2012 3:00:38 AM Modified:5/31/2012 3:01 AM If they continue to disagree, it will have a very detrimental effect on the entire negotiation process. BBC will be able to sense the tension and difference of opinion, and could either 1)use it to their advantage or 2)decide the Info-R-Us lacks the ability to wok as a team and go elsewhere for their business. It might not be a bad idea for Dan and Bennie to have to switch positions on this issue and do the research to prove each other's theories. However, their boss may have to have a come to Jesus meeting with them and tell them both to swallow their pride and come to a consensus. They need to put the company's welfare above their own feelings of superiority or rightness. What risks exist for Dan at Matthew Hartman this point? 5/29/2012 9:10:28 PM There are both risks brewing for Dan and Info R Us. Dan can get himself into the hot seat here with Info R Us AND BBC. Even though BBC is potentially looking for the world here, we have to think big picture. Big picture is revenue and maybe profit, considering the low cuts. There has to be some profit out of this somewhere, right? And even if there is no profit here, there has to be something in the future. However, if we have a strained relationship between the companies, BBC will less likely to return, therefore giving less of a chance for those profits in the future. Also, we have to realize that Dan is reporting to someone, whom is Bennie. At times, even though one disagrees with their boss, Bennie appears to be flying off the handle with his suggesting and not listening. That could damage the working relationship in some capacity. RE: What risks exist Trudy-Ann Dyer for Dan at this point? 6/3/2012 7:43:43 AM The risk is losing the contract all together. Both Dan and Bennie have good points. Dan believes that although they've been building a good business partnership for the past three years, BBC has already cut into Info R Us ' profit margin over the past three years by underbidding previous projects, shortened schedules and price discounts. Bennie believes that the industry is too competitive and that BBC will look elsewhere. At this point, I believe that Dan and Bennie need thoroughly go over the market analysis and take care to be only marginally lower by minimum 5%- BBC still gets a great deal and Info R Us will have retained the business partnership. How would I react in similar situation Tyrone Labad 5/30/2012 1:26:30 AM In this situation we can see that Both Dan and Bennie are at cross roads with each other even if both of them are in the same team. Dan should first try and understand where Bennie is coming from and why he is insisting that the company should give a lower price and what his risks and fears are. This will help him look at the issue from Bennie's perspective, and have a follow on discussion with him on what their unified strategy should be for the negotiation. If they are still not able ot agree, then I would get a superior involved to get him to decide what the course of action should be. I would also collect a lot of proof and evidence on what my position is and try convince Bennie with facts and figures rather than just having a direct discussion. What risks exist for Dan at Levonde Jones this point? 5/30/2012 5:10:13 PM Dan can be at risk of setting a bad example for himself, that would lead to lower prices on future deals. Dan could be at risk of loss of profit and revenue for Info R Us. Dan could also be at risk of loosing credibility with the customer and hurting the relationship between him and Bennie, the Info R US Project Manager. What risks exist for Dan at this point? RE: What risks exist Trudy-Ann Dyer for Dan at this point? 5/30/2012 10:34:21 PM I believe that BBC considers them a viable option even though they may have other vendors that they work with. A risk that exists of Dan is the possibility that Bernie may undermine his advice and the negotiation process will not go smoothly. Authority needs to be established. There has to be some common ground between the contract manager and the sales manager. RE: What risks exist Bryant Windham for Dan 6/3/2012 10:07:50 PM at this point? Trudy I agree that there has to be some common ground between the two. There is also a measure of respect that needs to be established as well. Both men can bring valuable information and input to the negotiation they just have to get back in a room and keep their eyes on the big picture. RE: What risks exist Tyrone Labad for Dan at this point? 5/31/2012 7:23:57 AM There are multiple risks across a variety of aspects that both the parties are considering while they are building their position. However, they are not able to effectively and empathetically being able to communicate these risks and align thoughts with the other person, leading to a breakdown in communication which has eventually led to both of them taking opposite positions. The best way that both of them could have approach this situation is to have a non personal look at the risks, putting in effort to explain to the other person, have material evidence that backs their thoughts to have a matured decision. Training the new boss Professor Gordon 5/30/2012 9:25:18 PM Class, Have you found yourself in a similar situation where you have to train the new boss? I always find it interesting that most of us at some point in our career will find ourselves training a new manager. I think of that situation when I review this scenario. The new manager is interested in doing something to make an impact and they often ignore the advice of those who are closer to the situation. All the best, Robert RE: Training the new Tiffany Terrell boss 6/2/2012 3:18:08 PM I have experienced this quite a bit when managers have come in to an organization and they haven't fully gathered enough information prior to making changes. While yes they are trying to continue to run a business they should try to have an understanding of the current state of affairs. I managed a workforce of 150 employees and during my initial month I spent time getting to know the employees and finding out some of the issues from my client. After spending time and observing I then began to slowly implement changes within our group. The changes were difficult for some of my employees at the timel;however, the way that the changes were rolled out made them more receptive to receiving them. RE: Training the new Yelena Magid boss 6/2/2012 11:57:17 PM Modified:6/3/2012 12:01 AM Because new boss may have completely different experiences compared to the current company, s/he may often ignore valuable advices. When training a new boss, one must remember that boss will obtain information regarding company’s culture and procedure from different sources. A few occasions that I had opportunity to train a new boss, the technical side of the business took precedence and other information was offered when asked. It is often hard to pursued a person in either direction with only one person's point of view. RE: Training the new Anthony Mayo boss 5/31/2012 12:08:21 PM I have had to train several new bosses and I must say that my approach has been different for each and completely dependent upon the approach of each new boss. For example, I had one new boss (Boss #1) whose modus operandi was to act from a place of humility, empowering members of our team and who communicated openly and honest all circumstances such as not understanding our software or which of our reports were required for which activities, etc. That was a boss who received my full attention and for whom I over-performed and provided more information than was required to insure that a thorough understanding of our products and capabilities resonated. On the other hand, I have worked for the extreme opposite type of boss, who was demanding, somewhat condescending, micro-managing and completely unsure of where to begin but who would blame everyone else if a lack of clarity resonated (Boss #2). Neither I nor my co-workers wanted to go out of our way to provide additional information for Boss #2 as we felt constantly under siege and we all knew that if anything went wrong that any one of us could be “thrown under the bus” at any time. When Boss #1 made mistakes, we were quick to provide coverage and to correct things, while making Boss #1 aware and bringing Boss #1 along in the process of correcting issues. When Boss #2 made mistakes, we all ran for cover and waited for the fall-out as no one could ever be sure who would become the next scapegoat. Boss #1 rarely had to ask questions as my colleagues and I were overly accommodative to Boss#1’s learning curve and we were all happy to do so as we knew that our efforts were appreciated, well received and would go a long way. Boss #2 got exactly what was asked for and nothing more and we would spend hours on activities related to double and triple checking information; even after all of the checking of information, we all still felt uncomfortable as we knew that if the information did not resonate that we would be accused of leaving something out or some other circumstance. From working within both extremes, I learned that it’s better to be up front with people and to approach circumstances openly, honestly and with as much integrity as possible because the work environment can be much friendlier and the potentials for negotiating circumstances could be better if those approaches were taken. RE: Training the new Levonde Jones boss 6/1/2012 1:01:27 PM I totally understand where you are coming from Anthony. I had to train a previous boss two year ago. There was quite a bit of time invested in training her and she ended up working me to death. Anthony you are right about being upfront from the beginning. Besides training my boss, I should have looked out for my own best interest and made her aware of other things she should of been concerned with, besides me. RE: Training the new Martial Yao boss 6/2/2012 3:50:28 PM Modified:6/2/2012 3:50 PM The first reactions of the new boss are very important for his image; he should balance critical thinking, enthusiasm and respect for his coworkers. It is also important to take some initiatives to meet coworkers, they have so much to explain and they will be happy to do it. RE: Training the new Renee Gordon boss 6/3/2012 2:05:12 AM I have trained & worked with both kinds of managers--the micromanagers and the managers who empowered their employees. I recognized that the empowering manager was the one who got the most positive response from their employees, while the condescending micro-manager left a path of destruction in their wake. Having to train a manager who is of the second sort is a strain on the employees that are having to train them, as well as the strain on the employees who are under this manager's supervision. RE: Training the new Jennifer Weaver boss 6/1/2012 9:25:08 AM I have been in a situation where I have had to train a new boss and my first impressions were that he was making more of an assessment of the employees throughout his training then attempting to learn what was needed to perform his job. He actually let several members of the team go during this time. After his team assessment from the training he started to listen more to the employees in the department and began to empower and support the remaining members of the team. Although I felt initially that it was a tough approach, in the end I did realize that it made us a better team and we started making a lot of progress on past initiatives . RE: Training the new Ray Stout boss 6/1/2012 11:41:36 AM When ever anyone is in the military they understand this concept very well as everyone is going to do this at least once or twice within a tour aboard a particular assignment because everyone is moving around every couple of years. One of my earliest mentors explained a technique to train a new boss this way. Be open and communicate everything that they need to know in regards to how a particular shop or area worked. then sit back and let that soak in. Everyone has an ego and wants to create an impact on an organization in some form or fashion especially in a new job. They will want to change things, re-work reports, may even do a full re-org of their team, but as long as everyone is in direct communication and on the same page it will work out. I laughed when he first explained this to me, but when i was put into the position of being a new boss that is what i expected from the people i was leading. IT worked out very well and the team came together quickly. IT was a give and take scenario and I think that is what leadership is all about. In this scenario, both parties are at fault because the new manager is closed minded and the contract manager is only forcing his answer to the problem. I think this goes back to the see it form the other perspective because we all know what it is like to get a new boss, so why wouldn't we use that experience to help change the way we approach being a new boss instead of repeating those mistakes. enjoy, ray RE: Training the new Teanna Soule boss 6/3/2012 2:13:52 PM In the military I have had this experience, and understand that in those circumstances it was not a matter of experience but a matter of rank that places an individual in the position. However, I believe the commonalities in each situation include the fact that each program, office, or department has its own unique flow and process to maintain effective and efficicient means of doing business. I believe that in civilian businesses, the training a subordinate provides to a new manager should be limited to networking, specific processes and policies and the day-to-day operations of the team; the manager has a specific role, and although subordinates are aware of what is expected of that role, they should not be responsible for training the manager to fulfill that role. RE: Training the new Bryant Windham boss 6/2/2012 11:33:40 PM When I was a drug rep I had a new manager that came to MI from the DC area. At the time he was a new manager and did not understand the marketplace in MI. It took him a good six months to a year of being out in the territory with the reps because when the new manager first started he tried to implement some things that we had already tried without success due to access issues. Ego Professor Gordon 5/30/2012 9:26:08 PM Class, I think one of the lessons of this case study is to worry less about your ego and worry more about the problem. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if it means suppressing your ego at times. The right thing is not always going to be easy, but if you do the right thing, it goes a long way to keeping customers happy. All the best, Robert RE: Ego David Fore 6/3/2012 7:22:17 AM I agree with you Professor Gordon. But this process is alot easier said that done. Alot of people have a hard time trying to sacrifice their ego's to do the right thing. When someone is able to do this, it is great for them, the company and the customers that are involved. When you are involved in a project it is easier to entangle your ego with the outcome. Too much ego will cause a manager to be blind to obvious problems, such as a lack of resources, customer disinterest and employee morale. RE: Ego Jennifer Weaver 6/2/2012 7:53:55 PM This is something is also learned during a pr course when taking my bachelors . If you are wrong you must admit it and if you do not know you must say so. This actually earns respect with the people you work with as they begin to trust you more in knowing you would never lie to save face, that you will admit mistakes and hopefully fix them and that you can be trusted to always do what is best and rig regardless of your ego. It shows a tremendous amount of character . RE: Ego Matthew Hartman 6/1/2012 7:31:45 PM Most professionals will agree with this. Check the ego at the door and do what's best for the big picture. This often comes up with very stubborn individuals and really can have an affect around the team and office. The thought process is individual first and the company follows. In my experience, these coworkers tend to go less far than their coworkers. They do say that sometimes doing the right thing is the hardest thing, but if it's in best interest for the customer, then go for it. However, ego can sometimes be a good thing. Even if they are not budging on something, they may have a different look at something and believe a positive outcome can still be reached. RE: Ego Lorenzo Welch 6/2/2012 10:42:39 PM Ego can be disastrous to business and team dynamics. Business decisions should be made on factual data. If team members are sabotaging others by withholding information this creates a negative work environment. . If you are just using Ego and Pride for self-gains and not organizational benefit then nothing positive will occur. There is no I in team if a manger has a huge Ego and pride. It is more than likely that they are self-centered and does not like to accept criticism for when they are wrong. RE: Ego Alana Simpson 5/30/2012 10:32:17 PM This is very interesting because it is not common to hear about not worrying about ego but it is a truth that is difficult to make a practice. It is very easy for your ego or your pride to get in the way of making solid business minded decisions and often times it does. It is important to leave ego on the table and just do the right thing. This again goes back to ethics and integrity in my opinion. RE: Ego Ray Stout 5/31/2012 4:50:06 AM Alan, i believe you are exactly right. The application of or over protection of ones ego is a direct representation of that person ethics and integrity. I would also add that the minute it becomes about the personal "you" something is lost. Now this si not saying there shouldn't be pride in ones work and outputs, but sometimes resting everything a person is on what comes out of a particular line can be disastrous. Has anyone ever worked on a project that was completely in the hands on jsut one person? That practice is actually frowned upon because it locks that knowledge and experience into just one person. eventually that person's activities become who they are and they take great offense to anyone moving in on their territory. In the military, i saw this time and time again. When a new person woudl transfer into a command, which magically enough usually happened every 3 to4 years, there woudl always be heartache because one person would want to keep all the marbles. Even though tat person might be leaving shortly. Maybe i am just crazy, but is is common practice for people to silo information just to make sure they are needed? wouldn't this actually be a ego problem within an or gainzation? just a thought, enjoy, ray RE: Ego Professor Gordon 5/31/2012 10:20:17 PM Ray, I agree that people's egos get in the way. I know that it is hard but sometimes people want job security and so they feel that if they withhold some information that it will lead to job security. After all, if people do not know your job then they will have a hard time replacing you. All the best, Robert RE: Ego Yelena Magid 6/1/2012 11:51:35 PM I have experienced numerous situations where people intentionally withhold information so they appeared more valuable employee than others did. This type of behavior bound to create conflicts and hurt operational bottom line. People like that are trying to gain any minimal advantage without any effort on their part, may be because they do not want to learn new things. RE: Ego Tyrone Labad 6/1/2012 1:36:10 PM I agree that one may not want to share the knowledge that they have as they fear that they could be made redundant if their skills become generic and other people can also take up their responsibilities. However the biggest issue with that, especially when people have to work as teams that cross multiple functions such as sales, operations, finance etc, unless people share knowledge there could not be effective teamwork, and people would not be able to contribute as a team or to the maximum levels as they are being restricted to their own scope of areas. I also think that not giving out knowledge would not lead to development of talent within the team, that could be ocunter productive to the person itself as they would not be promoted to higher positions of greater responsibility within the company. RE: Ego Kathryn Saura 5/31/2012 11:51:03 PM Alana, You make a great point that ego and pride needs to be pushed aside in order to make a wise business decision. I think that this requires you to evaluate what the end result will be with your next move so that essentially you don't respond off emotions. If you keep in mind the goal of the agreement, then as difficult as it may be to push aside pride, making a strategic and effective decision should be easier to make. RE: Ego Professor Gordon 6/2/2012 2:07:37 AM Kathryn / Alana, Do you feel that ego and pride are always a factor? All the best, Robert RE: Ego Matthew Hartman 6/2/2012 4:58:52 PM Ego and pride are not always a factor. I would suggest sometimes a factor, but not always. Some people come to work knowing they're there to get business done and they can swallow their ego and pride. Now... there is such thing as positive pride. Everyone needs to have pride...and remember... not all pride is bad. One needs to be proud of their accomplishments and what they do. RE: Ego Jennifer Weaver 6/3/2012 10:12:24 PM I believe ego and pride are always a factor, abook I have been reading called Meet your Mind would suggest that the ego and pride of a man/women come from a basic instinct for acceptance in a society that requires human interaction and acceptance to belong. Instinct always exist for humans and animals in any given situation and cannot be eliminated, only controlled by human intellect which is why at times, people can overcome ego and pride to get ajob done. RE: Ego Tamika Francis 6/3/2012 9:35:00 PM I find that Ego and pride can be an issue and a factor in business decision making. Especially when ideas or planning from lower level managers or staff have to make decisions on. If a managers staff members idea is looked at favorable by others and the managers ideas are shot down ego frequently gets in the way and can make the the mangers pull rank to ensure that the staff members ideas are not put through even if it's best for the company. I've seen where two managers consistently have dueling ideas of what is best during projects and certain procedures of the work day and many times the upper level boss will pull rank and make sure only their decisions are pushed through for the procedures. RE: Ego Kathryn Saura 6/3/2012 6:43:51 PM Professor, No, I do not believe that ego is not necessarily always a factor. There are people who are able to merely see the goal at hand and avoid any type of inner feelings show in their actions. Although ego and pride may not always be a factor, I do think that it is very common. It is difficult when things aren't going your way with a negotiation to push aside your pride and natural instinct to react in a way that reflects what your ego is telling you. Despite this fact, it is important to remember that things aren't always easy, and you have to be able to respond ethically and in the best interest of the customer to affect the overall outcome. RE: Ego Cynthia Mcgowan 6/3/2012 9:29:33 PM I believe that ego and pride is often, (not always) a factor but I think that there is more chance of fear being a motivator because the corporate world is a very competitive place. If the organization does not foster trust in the employees there is the tendency to for the employee to go into self-protection mode to make sure that he has the brightest light shining. RE: Ego Ruchi Galande 6/2/2012 9:16:33 AM I think ego and pride comes with competition and relationship of two. It is important to know how you take others advise. I think in this case Dan wants to share his experience; he wants to be friendly and supportive, where Bennie takes his advice negatively. It’s a ego and pride when you don’t want to listen any advice and want be your own. RE: Ego Tiffany Terrell 6/3/2012 3:41:05 PM Ruchi I can agree that ego and pride can directly be related to competition. Also, from what everyone else has commented I do not feel that it's always a factor. I do know that lack of knowledge or understanding the circumstances centered around the project or contract can cause issues. However as Ruchi's has mentioned ego and pride can definitely play a role when individuals aren't willing to listen to one another and they put themselves above the customer or client. BBC vs Info R Bryant Windham Us 5/30/2012 11:27:00 PM Dan needs to sit back down with Bennie and work the planning process for the negotiation a little better than this first meeting. They need to look at the objectives, prioritize them and create options from both ends of their spectrum. The two need to play out some of the alternatives as it relates to the habits that BBC has established over the last three years. Once they have done that then they can make a team plan on how to go into the negotiation. If Bennie ignores Dan’s recommendation totally that would be negative reflection on him and show that he is not a team player and disregards others options. RE: BBC vs Trudy-Ann Dyer Info R Us 5/31/2012 7:57:46 PM My sentiments exactly Bryan. The meeting between Dan and Benny was quite uneventful. Key ingredient missing is Communication. Both parties seem to be struggling with their ego and who knows best. How is it possible to go the negotiating table with BBC when in fact the team at Info R Us are divided and cannot negotiate among themselves. Dan and and Benny need to go back to the drawing board and map out a workable solution. BBC vs Info R David Fore Us 6/1/2012 1:28:21 PM One thing that Dan shouldnt do is lower the price. It is important that he keep a sound business plan. At some point you have to stop lowering the price. They could use quality as a selling point to their price. They could also you the fact that they have been doing bee usiness with them for the past three years. The main risk for Dan at this point, is that he risk losing to a cheaper competitor. Negotiating Case Study Kathryn Saura 6/1/2012 11:45:41 PM Dan needs to prepare for his meeting with the sales manager by having support for his suggested contract changes. He needs to ensure he appropriately voices how both parties must benefit, and yet how the value of their service will help their company. Dan needs to settle the situation with Bennie prior to the meeting otherwise it can cause dispute in their meeting with BBC. This can also cause company politics and could potentially taint their credibility with BBC. In the end this could cause risk for both Dan and Bennie by affecting their positions with the company if they can’t come to an agreement. This all relates to our assignment because it shows strategies in contract agreements and how to provide all the necessary information appropriately. I have been in a situation like this at work when it was difficult to come to a mutual agreement. Although it involved a lot of going through opposing opinions, support was given for each party’s sides so that finally there was some compromise in the end. Closing Comments Professor Gordon 6/3/2012 9:39:18 PM Class, In closing, this case study is a good example of what happens when people within an organization fail to communicate. Just like in the earlier case study, there is a lack of communication. Everyone seems to think they know the best thing but no one is seeking agreement. People need to listen a little more in order to be more effective. Furthermore, I feel that company politics has an impact in this situation and if the parties could see past their agenda’s perhaps the negotiation would work out better. All the best, Robert
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