St. Michael’s Campus Renovation Program
Advisory Group Meeting
I. Sanctuary
Table #1:
 Can’t see Christus Rex from 3 locations
 Altar Guild Flowers
 People from behind choir area have blocked view
 Where do the priests/readers/acolytes sit without blocking parishioners
 Does my physical proximity to priests make me closer to God?
 Can choir be reconfigured to side?
 Re dining room table analogy – it is more as family TV than dining table
 Whose idea was this?
 Easier access for handicapped in back
 Is this fad going around? Do we need to go with fad?
 “I don’t come for musical theatre, I come to worship.”
 Mission churches and storefront churches are flat with no elevation
 Ushering and collecting will be difficult
 Leave altar in same general area – eliminate step – and not spend money on that – we don’t need a full body
lift
 Don’t understand the need for doing any major reconfiguration
Dave and Dancy Dobrenick, Bill and Marilyn Wilson, Billie McPhillips, Hunter O’Hair, Allison Flower
Table #2:
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Where is the columbarium?
What are four rows behind piano?
Will the folding doors be removed?
Option 1 – like it
Could chairs have kneelers or other?
Property lectern and triangle(?) to altar (center not preferred near current)
The movement of the altar does create a cross pattern
Consider floor to compliment cross aspect standing altar
Prepare musical space in top pews
Take down the inner doors
Move food barrels and altar pamphlets
On Plan “E” – alarm on door beyond bathroom to replace current alarm door
Bob McMichael, Gail McMichael, Patty Green, Jim Sargent, Bill Endicott, Pam Busby, Dick Pryor
Table #3:
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Is it the same altar? Will affect altar cloths and priest clothing.
Concern about elevation, tripping hazard, safety important
What will be flooring surface?
Recommend committee visit other churches that have such an altar configuration and discuss flexibility and
logistics
Center placement – people in favor of altar and frontals
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Will old ramp have possibility of a closet for storage? Altar Guild could use space.
Lectern idea – place diagonally between 2 and 3 so better visibility
Where will clergy, acolytes, and readers site?
Committee needs to look at Trinity columbarium.
Lisa Sargent – Only way to access classroom (currently library/conference room) is through the office or through
one of the other new classrooms. The office is frequently armed.
Suzanne Phinney, Pat Cole, Janice Boyd, Julie Linderman, Janice Bowdler, Lisa Sargent, Sue Davis
Table #4
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Mid point of the church – forward of the original position – bringing altar to people
Raise choir section PLEASE – congregation wants to see choir. Back row of choir must be able to see Connie
Lectern to side, so not directly behind altar
Pulpit to the side means side-seating sight options
Accessibility for wheelchair around baptismal font and choir procession
Will the altar and lecterns be portable
What do chairs mean to you? How do chairs affect kneeling?
If pews – need kneelers and frontal screen
If chairs – okay to maybe not have kneeler and screen
Michael Walker, Carol Bone, Sue Gaston, Mary Ellen Ferguson, Harriett Carr, Jim Cole
Table #5
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Could a pocket door or sliding barn door be placed at the entrance to the hallway leading to the choir robing
space from the choir area?
Leave the altar where it is, because moving it to the center would not make it churchy
Will carpet be placed in the center aisle?
What floor surface will there be in the narthex?
We would like the baptismal font to be moveable.
Diane Rehrer-Salisbury – I like chairs in the back now and church in the round – pews in this fashion (picture
showing altar just below the steps, and then pews angled in towards the alter (no pews on the sides)
Dave Decker, Kathy Lunger, Skip and Cynthia Metcalf, Genie Scholl, Diane Rehrer-Salisbury, Norma Rehrer
Table #6
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When will we know about costs for various projects?
Establish priorities
Why move altar?
What about flooring? All one or many types?
Why not use carpeting all over and simply remove existing carpet and recover all floor areas in new carpet?
Choir on risers? Easy to see choir and choir can see congregation
Do not eliminate the pulpit
Make this area (seats behind choir) moveable seats.
Why is pulpit being moved?
Do not want to lose pews.
Acoustic effect
Not convinced that the move of the altar is justified. Want another option
Asbestos in tiles – can we cover over vs. remove
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Seems like wasted space (existing hallway to north door)
Security – have access to church vs. school
Overall – cost of various projects
Columbarium – inside vs. outside
Rick Larkey, Bill Fobes, Michael Johnson, Sharon Gulliford, Selma Fields, Polly Dodds, [ unknown sitting next to
Rick Larky and Polly Dodds ]
Table #7
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What’s the purpose of getting people there if there is a ___ anyway?
Can we get a mockup
Use the 2nd one because of kneeling walls
It’s great for the 5 o’clock
What’s happening with columbarium?
Choir niche is a small space - is the wall being extended out?
Where is the acolyte closet going to be?
If we close off ramp what will happen to space storage?
As an alternative just have chairs to surround the altar to make it more adaptable to all cheaper
Do we really ant to face our asbestos issues now?
Hector Arellano, Geneva Pratt, Marcie Larkey, Tina Ferriot, Sally Jervis, Diane Hegland
II. Education Center
Table #1
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Women need more than one stall in restrooms – should be 1 large woman’s restroom
Where is library going?
Everyone liked the improved classroom space
What is current square footage of Friendship?
Like moving nursery/Godly Play
Table #2
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Propose hardwired for internet and wi-fi access
Solid cleanable flooring vs. carpet (tile/lino/wood)
Where will library live?
White boards
Concern over 294’ classroom with no external door
No more garage sale furniture
Support removable furniture (Tables) to accommodate different room needs
Table #3
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Clarification – 3 classrooms, one will also serve as a lounge
Question – currently have audio visual capacity – will all rooms be equipped with this
Plus – corridor allows better flow and access to restroom
Will also buffer sound – sound proofing of walls will also be important
Where is library going to be?
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Janice – EFM does use books – will they be available?
Pat – Centering Prayer will need to have adequate space – 2 classrooms
Lisa – Question – what is the ease of moving the wall?
Lisa – Comment consider modular furniture for classrooms that can be easily configured
Julie - Question – how much flexibility is there for multi-use of all of these spaces? Furnishings/storage need
to be considered – Boy Scouts, EFM, Plays, Weddings, etc., Godly Play, Nursery, Convention
Table #4
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Can a door be put between the middle classroom and the kitchen to make it more accessible?
“We want to use every space we have and make the space inviting”
Sliding glass door in the 294 sf classroom?
Table #5
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Smaller conference room?
Library – where will this go?
Like the flexibility with entry and exit doors
Is library essential? Find out
Storage items in cabinets – important issue for many groups (Who, what, where, how).
Losing lots of cabinet space
Scheduling rules to be established – please *imperative
Multipurpose needs for classroom 376 sf
Are there alternative meeting locations
Table #6
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Children friendly bathrooms do little children need smaller fixtures and bathroom.
More bathroom space for females
Loss of storage space NO
Where is the internal security between office and rooms
Table #7
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Will there be a microwave?
How much smaller is the kitchen area? Square footage. How much counter space?
Sliding wall – would there be a door in it?
Will Noel Porter’s name be put back on one of the rooms?
Will the name Johnstone Hall be honored rather than multi-purpose?
Nursery, Godly Play too small an area for very many children
Does nursery and godly play space account for future growth in that population
Expanding ___in nursery/Godly Play to maximum use
Do we have to designate space by age category - rather design to be used for any purpose as needed.