Crime is down - The Liberal Gun Club

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Note to LGC folks: I was slammed for
time on Friday and put this together in
90 minutes.
The purpose of this was not to display
on an overhead or handout. I used it for
my own notes, as I occasionally do for
meetings where there is a time
constraint and want to cover a lot of
topics.
Obviously it was noticeable at the
meeting so I passed on my only hard
copy to my official, with the exception of
the Appendix.
1/26/13
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Name: omitted
Address: omitted
Cell: omitted
I am a husband, father & son
Lifelong Democrat since 1988
Lifelong Californian since the 60’s, exact date
omitted.
I work in the omitted industry
Active target shooter/collector since 1991
I do not hunt
I do not own guns for self defense
I grew up in an anti-gun home, that still is to this day
Member of the Liberal Gun Club & the NRA
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SB-47 - This proposal would ban the sale of
most rifles that can accept the standard, CA
legal, 10 round magazine that currently requires
a tool to remove said magazine. This law will
also require owners of this rifle type to register
with the state, perhaps on an annual basis.
Ammunition Purchase Permit – this proposal
would require buyers of ammunition to present a
“permit” to buy ammunition.
Tax Deductions for Gun Safes – I would propose
offering state tax deductions for gun owners who
purchase a gun safe (meeting acceptable criteria).
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1989 – Ban on assault rifles
2000 – Ban on ammunition magazines that can
accept over 10 rounds of ammunition
2000 – Ban on standard mag release buttons
2013? – Proposal to ban rifles that can accept a
magazine. This applies to rifles that currently
can only use a 10 round magazine by law as well
as rifles that already have to have a “bullet
button” requiring a “key” to remove said
magazine. (I noted in my discussion
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The goal post is moving yet again. What’s next?
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Note to LGC members: My point here was articulate how
with every so called “compromise” the anti-gun
community moves the goal post. Ban 30 roung mags,
then ban any gun can accept any magazine, ect…..
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California in 2011 had the lowest murder rate in
46 years. (source CA DOJ)
In 2010 California had 58 rifle murders out of
1,792 murders of all types. (source CA DOJ)
Crime is down for almost every “crime type” (see
data from 1960-2011 attached). Why aren’t our
politicians in Sac taking any credit for our
amazing progress? (humorous sarcasm to share
with your colleagues)
Targeting semi-auto rifle owners makes about as
much sense as blaming all of our Muslim
brothers & sisters in CA for 911.
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Many target shooters and competition shooters buy
their ammo online at a fraction of the cost of buying
it locally.
Case in point, my shooting partner & I were spending
$750 per month on precision ammunition online that
would have cost us over $1,300 locally.
How will this accommodate online purchases and
those who reload ammunition?
The author of this bill wants to put those who
purchase over 1,000 rounds at a time on a watch list.
Myself and many of my friends typically buy in bulk
and average between 5,000 rounds to my all time
high of 7,500 rounds a year.
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I am happy to report that I have never seen so
many liberals speaking out and getting involved
in gun rights as I have in the last few years.
We will educate our fellow liberals on gun rights.
We will begin to have our voices heard in our
state houses to D.C…..as well as the NRA.
Check out the club I belong to. Feel free to reach
out to our administrators for more information.
www.theliberalgunclub.com
What I am for: (YES)
What I am against: (NO)
1. Universal Background Checks - YES, I think
that a mechanism for screening out those
individuals who do not have a Constitutional
Right to own a firearm (felons, mentally ill)
should be enhanced. Keeping this element
from our gun shows, our ranges and all other
legal avenues is sensible.
1. Gun Bans - NO, I do not support gun bans,
including the proposed ban of bullet buttons
and guns that can accept 10 round magazines.
There is absolutely no statistical justification
to drive SB-47 through the legislative process.
2. Tax Deductions for Safes - YES, we should
encourage safety as much as possible.
Encouraging the increased purchase of safes
and securing more guns is not only good for
the safety of the general public but also gun in
the protection of gun owners property. I would
also like to figure out a means of providing
security options for low income gun owners as
well.
2. Mandatory Gun Registration
(New/Retroactive) - NO, convicted sex
offenders should be registered, not gun
owners who have neither been tried, nor
convicted of any crime. Also, if we had a
universal background check wouldn't it make
gun registration redundant? SB-47 would
require owners of certain rifle types to register
their guns……. and essentially themselves
with the state. Gun ownership is a civil right
not a privilege.
3. Enhanced Safety Training – YES, hands on
safety training for first time gun owners would
be highly desirable. It would enhance safety
for not only the new gun owner, but also the
general public.
3. Mandatory Armed Guards at Schools - NO,
this should entirely be up to local and state
governments. I would however support
federal/state funding for this purpose for
those requesting it.
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In 2007 there were 1,464 speeding-related
fatalities in California. (source The National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration)
All rifle fatalities (including “assault type”
weapons”) in California from 2001-2010:
CA Rifle Murders
90
87
80
70
80
74
73
67
62
60
52
50
58
48
40
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
45
2009
2010
Source: CA DOJ
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The maximum speed that one can travel in a car, on
specified postings, in California is 70 miles per hour.
Many cars in California have the “potential” to drive at
speeds up to 110 miles per hour and beyond.
We “trust” drivers to obey the speed limit.
With over 1,400 speeding related deaths should we
put regulators on all cars to prevent them from
driving over 70 miles per hour?
We would save more lives than banning certain “rifle
types”. I am not advocating regulators on cars, but
the analogy fits our collective emotion and how we
think about gun deaths v.s. speeding deaths.
Source: CA DOJ
California Crime Data from 1960-2011
Year
Population
Index
Violent
Property
Murder
Murder
Rate (per
100K)
Forcible
Rape
Robbery
Aggravated
assault
Burglary
LarcenyTheft
Vehicle
Theft
1960 15,717,204
546,069
37,558
508,511
616
3.9
2,859
15,287
18,796
143,102
311,956
53,453
1961 16,397,000
559,162
38,154
521,008
605
3.7
3,033
14,832
19,684
146,615
319,834
54,559
1962 16,970,000
604,297
39,846
564,451
657
3.9
2,946
15,598
20,645
158,523
348,373
57,555
1963 17,590,000
666,128
42,419
623,709
673
3.8
3,080
16,458
22,208
175,703
384,289
63,717
1964 18,084,000
748,656
48,026
700,630
740
4.1
3,621
18,667
24,998
196,883
427,960
75,787
1965 18,602,000
803,487
52,490
750,997
880
4.7
3,948
21,081
26,581
225,007
444,217
81,773
1966 18,918,000
860,662
57,718
802,944
868
4.6
4,432
22,317
30,101
241,666
474,122
87,156
1967 19,153,000
968,203
67,446
900,757
1,039
5.4
4,792
28,539
33,076
276,958
526,477
97,322
1968 19,221,000
1,099,656
81,293
1,018,363
1,150
6
5,744
36,991
37,408
316,081
582,838
119,444
1969 19,443,000
1,185,961
89,878
1,096,083
1,386
7.1
7,053
39,240
42,199
325,891
638,249
131,943
1970 19,953,134
1,264,854
94,741
1,170,113
1,376
6.9
7,005
41,277
45,083
349,788
682,811
137,514
1971 20,223,000
1,352,941
104,872
1,248,069
1,642
8.1
7,300
47,626
48,304
392,277
711,417
144,375
1972 20,468,000
1,312,635
110,667
1,201,968
1,791
8.8
8,127
48,829
51,920
398,960
663,568
139,440
1973 20,601,000
1,298,872
116,563
1,182,309
1,862
9
8,357
49,531
56,813
407,824
643,488
130,997
1974 20,907,000
1,431,468
127,658
1,303,810
1,985
9.5
8,494
52,822
64,357
433,194
737,067
133,549
1975 21,185,000
1,526,293
138,842
1,387,451
2,209
10.4
8,807
59,827
67,999
469,726
784,639
133,086
1976 21,520,000
1,556,757
144,041
1,412,716
2,220
10.3
9,614
59,318
72,889
467,980
806,086
138,650
1977 21,896,000
1,534,621
154,582
1,380,039
2,515
11.5
10,825
62,852
78,390
468,452
766,317
145,270
1978 22,294,000
1,586,483
165,626
1,420,857
2,611
11.7
11,316
68,235
83,464
488,966
777,783
154,108
1979 22,696,000
1,695,108
184,087
1,511,021
2,952
13
12,239
75,767
93,129
496,310
847,148
167,563
1980 23,532,680
1,843,332
210,290
1,633,042
3,411
14.5
13,693
90,420
102,766
545,138
913,070
174,834
1981 24,159,000
1,833,787
208,485
1,625,302
3,143
13
13,566
93,781
97,995
540,806
921,939
162,557
1982 24,724,000
1,801,256
201,429
1,599,827
2,779
11.2
12,529
91,988
94,133
499,466
935,831
164,530
1983 25,174,000
1,680,978
194,491
1,486,487
2,639
10.5
12,093
85,826
93,933
460,460
867,123
158,904
1984 25,622,000
1,657,320
195,589
1,461,731
2,717
10.6
11,702
83,924
97,246
443,094
857,328
161,309
California Crime Data from 1960-2011
Year
Population
Index
Violent
Property
Murder
Murder
Rate (per
100K)
Forcible
Rape
Robbery
Aggravated
assault
Burglary
LarcenyTheft
Vehicle
Theft
1985 26,365,000
1,718,473
201,763
1,516,710
2,770
10.5
11,421
86,387
101,185
448,506
890,967
177,237
1986 26,981,000
1,824,669
248,370
1,576,299
3,038
11.3
12,119
92,512
140,701
457,698
913,004
205,597
1987 27,663,000
1,799,871
253,943
1,545,928
2,924
10.6
12,109
83,341
155,569
419,969
896,335
229,624
1988 28,168,000
1,869,092
261,912
1,607,180
2,936
10.4
11,780
86,141
161,055
407,631
933,636
265,913
1989 29,063,000
1,965,652
284,136
1,681,516
3,158
10.9
11,966
96,431
172,581
410,468
972,603
298,445
1990 29,760,021
1,965,237
311,051
1,654,186
3,553
11.9
12,688
112,208
182,602
400,392
951,580
302,214
1991 30,380,000
2,057,513
331,122 1,726,391
3,859
12.7
12,896
124,939
189,428
424,656
986,120
315,615
1992 30,867,000
2,061,761
345,624
1,716,137
3,921
12.7
12,761
130,897
198,045
427,491
968,534
320,112
1993 31,211,000
2,015,265
336,381
1,678,884
4,096
13.1
11,766
126,436
194,083
414,182
945,407
319,295
1994 31,431,000
1,940,497
318,395
1,622,102
3,703
11.8
10,984
112,160
191,548
384,257
929,640
308,205
1995 31,589,000
1,841,984
305,154
1,536,830
3,531
11.2
10,554
104,611
186,458
353,895
902,456
280,479
1996 31,878,000
1,660,131
274,996
1,385,135
2,916
9.1
10,244
94,222
167,614
312,212
830,457
242,466
1997 32,268,000
1,569,949
257,582
1,312,367
2,579
8
10,189
81,468
163,346
299,240
784,405
228,722
1998 32,667,000
1,418,674
229,883
1,188,791
2,171
6.6
9,782
68,782
149,148
269,012
724,262
195,517
1999 33,145,121
1,261,164
207,879
1,053,285
2,005
6
9,363
60,039
136,472
223,814
660,991
168,480
2000 33,871,648
1,266,714
210,531
1,056,183
2,079
6.1
9,785
60,249
138,418
222,293
651,855
182,035
2001 34,600,463
1,347,056
212,867
1,134,189
2,206
6.4
9,960
64,614
136,087
232,273
697,739
204,177
2002 35,001,986
1,384,872
208,388 1,176,484
2,395
6.8
10,198
64,968
130,827 2,384,280
715,692
222,364
2003 35,462,712
1,420,637
205,551
1,215,086
2,407
6.7
9,994
63,770
129,380
242,272
731,486
241,326
2004 35,842,038
1,416,369
189,175
1,227,194
2,392
6.7
9,615
61,768
115,400
245,903
728,687
252,604
2005 36,154,147
1,390,710
190,178
1,200,532
2,503
6.9
9,392
63,622
114,661
250,521
692,467
257,543
2006 36,457,549
1,350,137
194,120
1,156,017
2,485
6.8
9,212
70,968
111,455
246,464
666,860
242,693
2007 36,553,213
1,299,685
191,025
1,108,660
2,260
6.2
9,013
70,542
109,210
237,025
652,243
219,392
2008 36,580,371
1,265,939
185,173
1,080,766
2,142
5.9
8,903
69,385
104,743
237,724
650,513
192,529
2009 36,961,664
1,184,367
174,934
1,009,433
1,972
5.3
8,713
64,093
100,156
230,198
615,402
163,833
2010 37,338,198
1,146,072
164,133
981,939
1,809
4.8
8,331
58,116
95,877
228,857
600,558
152,524
2011 37,691,912
1,128,845
154,944
973,901
1,792
4.8
7,663
54,292
91,197
230,090
596,963
146,848
Worth noting the dates CA implemented 3 Strikes and universal
background checks.