East Hampshire & Havant Local Implementation
Group (LIG)
Minutes of the Meeting
Thursday 12 November 2013, Petersfield Community
centre, Love Lane, off Tor Way, Petersfield, GU31 4BW
(Exhibition room)
People who were there: Florence Garland, Andy Rooke,
Amanda Cree, Sally Lowe, Sam Tong, Helen Dayson, Donna
Williams, Peter Clarke, Sylvia Hutchins and Peter Sitton
Apologies: Margaret White, Lisa Murley, Keith Goffe,
Laura Timms, Karen Hickton, Anna Bundy, Kathy Tong, Judith
Lesley-Smith, Jenny Dixon
Mistakes from previous minutes:
approved
Matters arising:
Mini Conference: Alex has not charged for her session at the
conference. HCC Printing Services has invoiced £140 for the printing
of the conference leaflets/note books. Sam thought the conference
went very well. She was pleased to have her name there.
Jo Hooper (HCC, transition manager) will come in February. Your
LIG questions please for January meeting.
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Service user meeting: there has been no meeting but a meeting is
planned for the 8th January. They will talk about the right support.
Donna and Karen will attend.
When elections come up, Sam might be interested in putting her
name forward.
The LD plan has taken a lot of time for everyone including support for
Donna and Karen.
LD Plan
At time of writing we have had 202 written responses which included
group responses.
Transport and education have come up on several occasions and
also timescales/implementation. We would like to know how
contracts are monitored.
Sam said that she had no support worker when someone was off sick
because they could not be replaced.
Partnership Board matters – 22 January 2014
Anita would like to the go the Partnership Board meeting in January.
The group agreed but would like feedback from Anita in February (Flo
has emailed her).
We will need to do have a regular parent/carer to go the LIG and the
Partnership Board – there is a small contribution of £15 per month.
Please let Flo/Helen know if you are interested.
Notes from our workshop today and notes of the previous workshop
on last 2 pages of these minutes.
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 How can we get support when someone is sick or on holiday?
 (we need to talk to Jenny about the process – do we have one?
Sally to talk to Jenny – who to call?)
 Donna has decided that she would write the dates when
someone does not turn up.
 How can we monitor 3rd party agencies audit / delivery of
services
 (HCC does internal audits)
 Who pays the bill if someone’s support is not there for dentist?
 What is the complaint’s procedure?
Finances
Andy Rooke is leaving EHAS and will not come back after Christmas
as he is being made redundant due to lack of funding. It is all very
sad.
Andy has done the LIG finances for the past few years. In the short
term, he can still keep it going but we will need to find new two
signatories which is good practice. He has a separate bank account
for the LIG at Nat West.
Petty cash is phasing out. Flo has now a HCC debit card for
teas/coffees/biscuits (VAT receipts are required).
At some point, Andy will need to hand out the accounts. It does not
take too much time as usually cheques are written during the LIG
meetings and the accounts are minimal. Helen said after some
thought that her organisation could take it on with the help of Sally.
Andy will organise forms from Nat West for new signatories.
Service conference (over 100 people were there):
Cost of room: £271
Catering: £877
Printing HCC: £140
Misc expenses: £60
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Donations: £110 (+)
Alex was free
Andy has enjoyed working with the LIG for the past few years. The
LIG wished Andy all the best in the future.
Andy also said that Community First will try and keep EHAS under
their wings.
Sam wanted to know who would be replacing Andy and who is going
to be the deputy?
Sally said that she can be 1st reserve for chairing the meeting. Sylvia
can be first reserve for the Partnership Board meeting – thank you to
both.
Peter C. cannot commit for the time being due to pressures at home.
Other things and anything else whether want to
discuss:
Apologies from Helen for next meeting who will be away. Sally can
chair the meeting if she is available.
Proposed items for the next agenda and date for the
2014 dates:
9 Jan, 13 Feb, 13 March, 10 April, 8 May, 12 June, 10 July, none in
August, 11 September, 9 October, 13 Nov and 11 December 2014
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Learning Disability Plan – Green LIG – Notes from
previous Workshop
In general the opinion was that the promises were “too woolly” – need
clear action, how will be implemented and how and when they will be
reviewed.
Right Support
Adult Services
Promise 1
Reflects Making Things Better……. – 3 However the assessment
process will need to include an appropriate question “Do you have a
PCP”, “Where you involved in the process” and “Please will you share
your plan as it will help with your assessment”
Promise 3
Reflects Making Things Better ……5. It was suggested that the
Launch Pad Model works well and should be considered as a vehicle
for fulfilling this promise
Promise 4
Reflects Making Things Better…. 4. The promise needs to include a
timescale – we will review annually unless a need arises when we will
review immediately. Also it is imperative that Advocacy and Adult
services work together as they have also included something similar
in their promises.
Promise 5 & 6
Reflects Making Things Better…..5. However the question was raised
“What procedures are in place to flag up concerns
Promise 7 & 9
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Reflects Making Things Better ………..1. However the question was
asked, “What are the standards” “Who writes them” and “How will
they be monitored and by whom”
Promise 8
Reflects Making Things Better……..6.
Making Things Better………..2
It was felt that predominately it is difficult for SS to make promises on
behalf of 3rd Parties – The only things that they can do is do
“informed” Commissioning, monitoring and evaluation – therefore
there needs to be a promise to how they are going to meet this
identified need
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