Fouls and Scoring Situations
Revised 1 Aug 09
M. Pasenelli
CACPFO Rules Interpreter
Our Mission:
• To know what the enforcement rules are for
fouls during scoring situations and to
demonstrate our knowledge of those rules
by answering the situations correctly
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Agenda
• Field Goal—no change from 2008
• Successful Try—no change from 2008
• Touchdown—major change from 2008
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Carry Over Fouls
• If there is a foul committed by the
opponents of the scoring team, the penalty
may be carried over to the succeeding spot
or to the subsequent kickoff for field goals,
tries and touchdowns (8-2-2, 8-3-5, 8-4-3)
• There are no carry over provisions for
safeties
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Definitions: Succeeding Spots
Situation
Regulation
Overtime
Field Goal
Kickoff
Next Series
Try
Kickoff
Next Series
Try
Try
Touchdown
•New definition: subsequent kickoff (8-2-2). So,
when do you have a touchdown and no
subsequent kickoff?
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Philosophy:
• To prevent cheap shots from occurring
• Situation #1 (MP): A1 is running for a long
touchdown. Lineman B1 hits an A player
who is obviously out of the play, a violation
of 9-4-3b.
• Ruling: Without the ability to carry over the
penalty, he would essentially be getting a
free shot. Therefore, the carryover foul
rules were put into place.
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Successful Field Goal (8-4-3):
• R fouls, K’s field goal is good
• K has the following options:
– Take the points off the board and enforce the
penalty with our regular enforcement
– Keep the points, carry the penalty over to the
succeeding spot
• Regulation: kickoff
• Overtime: next series
• Philosophy: either way, R’s foul is penalized
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Successful try (8-3-5):
• B fouls, A’s try (1 or 2 points) is good:
• A has the following options:
– Take the point(s), carry the penalty over to the
succeeding spot
– Replay the try (go for 2) with the yardage
assessed
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Successful try:
• A fouls, A’s try (1 or 2 points) is good:
• B has the following options:
– Assess the penalty and replay the down, unless
there is a loss of down foul
– If loss of down, there is no score and no replay
(and no change in the usual kickoff) 8-3-4
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TRY IS
FOUL
BY
A
B
GOOD
1 POINT
NO GOOD
2 POINTS 1 POINT
Replay unless loss of
down foul
Accept
Accept
score with score with
carry-over carry-over
penalty or penalty
go for 2
2 POINTS
Penalty obviously
declined
Replay
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Touchdown (8-2-2, 8-2-3)
• This is the complicated situation
• Why?
• It is possible to have a change of possession prior
to a touchdown
• Here’s the thought process:
– If there was no change in possession, we have the usual
carry-over option—accept the foul (rare) with normal
enforcement, or keep the touchdown and carry over the
enforcement to either the try or the subsequent kickoff
– If there was a change in possession, we have to know
when the foul occurred
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Touchdown
• What’s the idea behind this?
• Again, it’s the free shot philosophy
• Situation #2
– A 1/10 @ A-20
– A illegal motion at the snap
– A1 throws a forward pass that is intercepted by B1 who
runs for a touchdown
– Ruling: A’s motion foul must be declined for B to keep
the touchdown
• Philosophy: A obviously is not getting away with
anything by the illegal motion
• Key is when the foul by A occurs
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Touchdown
• On a change of possession, the foul by the
opponents must occur after the change of
possession for it to be eligible for a carry over:
• Situation #3
– A 1/10 @ A-20
– A1 throws a forward pass that is intercepted by B1
– During B1’s run for a touchdown, A2 grabs and twists
B1’s facemask
– Ruling: This foul occurred after the change of
possession, so it can be carried over under the right
circumstances
• What’s the idea behind this?
• Again, it’s the free shot philosophy
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Change in 2008
• Touchdown carry overs can only be assessed
on the try or the subsequent kickoff
• If there is no subsequent kickoff, only choice is
the try
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Subsequent Kickoff
• When do we have a touchdown and there is not a
subsequent kickoff?
– If the touchdown occurred at the end of the 4th quarter
and we go into OT
– If the touchdown occurs during any overtime series
• So, the carryover on a touchdown can be
assessed on the subsequent kickoff at any time in
regulation, other than the last timed down of the
4th quarter
• Otherwise, the only option is to assess it on the
try
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Change in 2009—Touchdown Situations—
Fouls w/Succeeding Spot Enforcement
Prior to the RFP (8-2-4, 10-5-1f)
• We now have an exception to the “all dead ball,
non-player and USC fouls are enforced from the
succeeding spot”
• If any of those fouls occur prior to the RFP after
a touchdown is scored, the offended team has a
choice of enforcement
• Succeeding spot—which is the try
• Subsequent kickoff
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Carry Over Fouls and
Touchdowns
Can Be Enforced On/In
Play
Touchdown
Touchdown (8-2-3)
Touchdown (8-2-4)
Penalty is For
Try
Succeeding KO
Overtime
Yes
Yes
No
Live Ball Foul,
after change of
possession
Yes
Yes
No
Dead-ball Foul
Before RFP for
Try
Yes
Yes
No
Non-player or
USC
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Situation #4 (*8.2.2A):
• During (a) A9's run for a touchdown, or (b) K1's
successful field goal, B2 holds A1.
• RULING: In (a), A will likely keep the score and
may choose to enforce the foul on the try or
enforce the foul on the subsequent kickoff.
• In (b), K may keep the points and have the penalty
enforced from the succeeding spot, or have the
penalty enforced from the previous spot and
replay the down. (8-4-3)
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Situation #5 (8.2.2B):
• On the last timed down of the 2nd period, Team A
(a) scores a field goal or (b) a touchdown. In both
cases, team B commits a live-ball foul.
• RULING: In (a), the offended team has the option
to keep the score, with the penalty assessed on
the 2nd half kickoff as this is the succeeding spot.
In (b), the offended team has the option to keep
the score, with penalty assessment on either the
try or on the 2nd half kickoff as this would be the
subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #6 (*8.2.2C) :
• On the last timed down of the 4th period, B
fouls on a play where Team A (a) scores a
touchdown that leaves Team A trailing by 1
point, (b) scores a field goal which ties the
game, or (c) scores a touchdown that leaves
team A trailing by one point and the
opponents also foul on the try during the
untimed down.
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Situation #6 (8.2.2C) Ruling:
• (a) A has the option to keep the score, with the
penalty assessed on the try. The penalty cannot
be assessed on the first play of overtime as there
is no subsequent kickoff.
• (b) A has the option to keep the score, with
penalty assessment on the 1st play over overtime
as the 1st play of overtime is the succeeding spot.
• (c) A may only have the penalty for the opponent’s
foul on the scoring play enforced on the try but
cannot carry over the penalty to overtime;
however, the foul by the opponent during the try
could be enforced on the 1st play of overtime at
A’s choice.
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Situation #7 (*8.2.2D) :
• A1 scores a touchdown. After the score, B
commits a (a) dead ball foul, (b)
unsportsmanlike or (c) nonplayer foul prior
to the initial ready for play on the try.
• RULING: In (a), (b), or (c), Team A may elect
to enforce the foul at the succeeding spot or
on the subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #8 (*8.2.2E) :
• Prior to the ball being thrown during a play in which A1
catches a touchdown pass and advances for a touchdown,
B1 holds A2 to prevent him from going out for a pass on
the side away from the play. When given options, A elects
to enforce the defensive holding foul on the subsequent
kickoff. During the successful 2 point try, B1 is guilty of
holding A1. Does A have the option of having the 10 yard
penalty added on to the previous 10-yard foul on the
subsequent kickoff?
• RULING: Yes. The fouls did not occur during the same
down, so these are not considered multiple fouls and,
therefore, they may both be enforced on the subsequent
kickoff (8-3-5b, 10-2-4).
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Situation #9 (*8.2.2F) :
• During a touchdown run by A1, B1 holds. During
the successful kick try, there is a foul by B2.
• RULING: If A accepts B’s holding foul, A may
accept the score and attempt the try from the 1 ½
yard line or accept the score and have the penalty
enforced on the subsequent kickoff. For a foul on
the try, A may accept and replay the try on the ¾
yard line or accept the 1 point try and enforce B’s
try foul on the subsequent kickoff. The captain of
A may choose to have both fouls enforced on the
subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #10 (8.3.5A):
• During a kick try: (a) B1 holds and the try is
successful; or (b) A1 holds and the try is
successful; or (c) B1 roughs the kicker/holder and
the try is unsuccessful.
• RULING: In (a), A may accept the score and have
the penalty enforced from the succeeding spot on
the kickoff or enforce it from the previous spot
and replay the down.
• In (b), B undoubtedly will accept the penalty and
replay.
• In (c), A obviously would accept the penalty and
replay. (8-3-7; 10-5-2)
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Situation #11 (*10.4.5G):
• A2 commits an unsportsmanlike dead-ball
foul: (a) following a touchdown by A1; or (b)
following a successful try.
• RULING: In (a), B is given the option of
accepting the penalty enforcement on the try or
the subsequent kick. In (b), the succeeding spot
is the kickoff.
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Situation #11 (*10.4.5G):
• COMMENT: If the try had been the last play of
the game and the score was tied, the
succeeding spot for enforcement of the penalty
for the foul by A2 would be the start of the
overtime procedure. If an overtime is not
authorized, the foul cannot be penalized
because there would be no succeeding spot.
(2-15; 2-41;
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Situation #12 (*10.5.3A):
• With third and 6 from B’s 35-yard line, a pass from
A1 is intercepted at B’s 25 by B1 who advances for
an apparent touchdown. During the run by B1, A1
kicks at B2.
• RULING: B may (a) accept the touchdown and
enforce the penalty on the try or on the
subsequent kickoff; (b) decline the penalty.
• In either case, A1 is disqualified for fighting. (8-23; 9-4-1)
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Situation #12 (8.4.3):
• With fourth and 5 from B's 18, K1's fieldgoal attempt is successful. B1 roughs the
kicker/holder.
• RULING: K may accept the result of the play
(3 points) and have the penalty enforced
from the succeeding spot, or accept the
penalty. If the penalty is accepted and K
retains possession, it will be first and goal
from R's 9-yard line. (9-4-4; 10-5-1f)
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Situation #13 (*10.5.4B):
• During the last timed down of the first half, A1
retreats into his own end zone to attempt a pass,
but he is downed there. During the down there is
holding in the end zone by: (a) A2, or (b) by B1.
• RULING: In (a), it is a safety and B would score 2
points whether the penalty is accepted or declined
since the run ended in the end zone and the foul
was in the end zone. If B accepts the penalty, the
period is not extended with an untimed down.
• In (b), if the penalty is accepted it will be enforced
from the goal line and the period is extended.
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Our Mission:
• To know what the enforcement rules are for
fouls during scoring situations and to
demonstrate our knowledge of those rules
by answering the situations correctly.
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