Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Juliane Begenau and Juliana Salomao discussion by Toni Whited NBER Summer Institute Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line In the data, large and small firms finance differently over the business cycle. I I Small: I Raise both debt and equity more in booms than recessions. I Do not pay out much to shareholders ever. Large: I Raise more debt relative to equity in booms than in recessions. I Payout is procyclical. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The paper builds a model of ex-ante homogeneous firms to understand these facts. I The model can be described as Hennessy and Whited (2007) meets Hopenhayn (1992). I Dynamic industry equilibrium model with both immature and mature firms because of endogenous entry and exit. I Firms use capital to produce output and finance with risky net debt, costly external equity, and internal funds. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The intuition can be seen with a stylized policy function debt net payout capital 0 0 size Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The intuition can be seen with a stylized policy function debt net payout capital high shock net payout high shock capital high shock debt 0 0 size Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The presence of both mature and immature firms is important! I Small firms are below an optimal scale and always want to invest more in good times. I They exhaust debt capacity and use some equity finance. I Large firms hover around an optimal size. I Optimal investments are smaller, so they largely finance with debt in good times. I Small firms rarely distribute to shareholders, and large firms pay out more in good times. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Outline I Challenge the facts. I Explain how the model can reconcile these new facts. I Extra comments depending on how fast I talk. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Compustat equity issuance data are terrible! I The numbers include what we want to model: seasoned equity offerings and private placements. I The numbers are dominated by what we do not want to model: option exercise. I This problem matters more for large than for small firms. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line SEOs are close to Compustat “equity issuance” for small firms. 0.020 Compustat Issuance SEOs 0.018 0.016 0.014 0.012 0.010 0.008 0.006 0.004 0.002 0 1990 1995 2000 Discussion 2005 Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line SEOs are nowhere near Compustat “equity issuance” for large firms. 0.010 Compustat Issuance SEOs 0.009 0.008 0.007 0.006 0.005 0.004 0.003 0.002 0.001 0 1990 1995 2000 Discussion 2005 Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line SEO Proceeds: No cyclicality for large and slight cyclicality for small firms. 0.020 Large Small 0.018 0.016 SEO Proceeds 0.014 0.012 0.010 0.008 0.006 0.004 0.002 0 1990 1995 Discussion 2000 2005 Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line SEO Incidence: Strong cyclicality for both large and small firms Large Small 0.025 SEO Incidence 0.020 0.015 0.010 0.005 0 1990 1995 Discussion 2000 2005 Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The SEO facts and the Compustat facts are roughly the same for small firms. I Phwew! I No such luck for large firms. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Much of the movement in net payout is from the payout side. Total Payout 0.030 Large Small 0.025 0.020 0.015 0.010 0.005 0 1990 1995 2000 Discussion 2005 Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line How can a model of ex-ante homogeneous firms give us acyclical proceeds but cyclical incidence for large firms? I We need more frequent, smaller investment projects in booms than in recessions. I Why? Financing is driven by the budget constraint! I One possibility is countercyclical irreversibility. I If investment is harder to reverse in recessions, optimal projects will be larger when they happen, but they will happen less frequently. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line The paper claims that large firms issue debt to finance payout in booms I In the data, this type of activity is rare. I I suspect it also is in the model. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line 0.20 0.016 0.15 0.012 0.10 0.008 0.05 0.004 0 0 1985 1990 Large payout 1995 2000 Large debt issuance Discussion 2005 Refinancing Firm Financing over the Business Cycle 2010 Large payout and refinancing Large debt issuance Danis, Rettl and Whited (2014) show that refinancing activity is rare. Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Refinancing is nearly nonexistent in dynamic investment-finance models. I I solved and simulated the Hennessy and Whited (2007) model and found no observations in which a firm did a large payout and a large concurrent debt issuance. I Why? Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Refinancing is nearly nonexistent in dynamic investment-finance models. I Firms optimally want to preserve debt capacity. I The value of this free debt capacity is more valuable to shareholders in nearly all states of the world than the value of taxable dividends. I We can observe concurrent debt issuance and dividend increases, but no refinancings, per se. I A positive shock increases cash flow, optimal investment expenditures, and optimal payout. Distress costs fall, and debt rises, but not to finance payouts, per se. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Why .55? I Returns to scale are very decreasing. I This number comes from a model with a convex cost of dividends and no adjustment costs (Hennessy and Whited 2007). I Leverage in the model is way too high (.38) I Investment policy is way too conservative. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Other stuff I “This generates an endogenous debt limit that becomes binding when a firm’s funding needs exceed its debt funding cost.” This makes no sense. A comparison of prices and quantities. In these endogenous default models, funding costs are basically the risk-free rate up to a limit, and then they skyrocket. So there is something “like” a debt limit but not really. I Get rid of all of all mention of collateral. There is no collateral constraint in the model. Firms can borrow more than their capital stocks. I “Large firms on the other hand find equity financing too costly.” No. The difference in financing policies comes from the differences in investment policies. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line This is a hard paper to discuss. I It is asking an interesting and important question. I It is answering the question in careful and sensible way. I I think that moving the focus to active equity issuances and away from “accounting” net payout would make a great deal of sense. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle Summary Data Comments Model Comments Bottom Line Danis, A., Rettl, D., Whited, T.M., 2014. Refinancing, profitability and capital structure. Forthcoming, Journal of Financial Economics. Hennessy, C.A., Whited, T.M., 2007. How costly is external financing? Evidence from a structural estimation. Journal of Finance 62, 1705–1745. Hopenhayn, H.A., 1992. Entry, exit, and rm dynamics in long run equilibrium. Econometrica 60, 1127–1150. Discussion Firm Financing over the Business Cycle
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