The following document was written by my grandfather, Thomas Baggaley
and is typed in the original including spelling errors.
Summary and Origin of the Baggileys by Thomas Baggaley
(23 November 1875- 18 June 1956)
The name Baggiley first orginated in England by a gentleman named Massey who came over to
England during the commotion of the Norman conquest and settled on the banks of the River
Mersey in Cheshire. Changing his name to Baggiley here in Cheshire he built a townsite which
today is a city of that name. Having its railroad station, I have verified through getting my
father (Henry) to go and see and report to me. This he did and found a so called castle or manor,
of which I have a photograph. At that time, I was in Australia.
The Masseys came over from France. See History of Cheshire Vol 1 Page 550 for further
particulars. The Baggileys married and remarried into families of high standing. I have a record
of this account in the 12th & 13th century.
The Baggi1ey coat of arms was agreed upon in the year 1353. I have a correct copy of the same
with the colors agreed upon by them. In my travels I have never found any other type of a coat
of arms among the Baggileys or even a suggestion to the contrary until I came to America and
here they have the same identical one even printed on their stationery. In the 15th century the
Baggileys in Cheshire having much interest in Lancashire, the next county, moved over there,
and changed their name to Baguley but still used the same coat of arms. The people today who
carry that name find their origin through that channel.
The one reason for the changing of the way of spelling the name was because the people in
those days were very poorly educated and they had to rely on the educated who would ask them
their names and the reply would be Bagley and the clerk would naturally write the name as it is
sounded and the individual would put her or his "X" as "" signature.
I am nearly to my 90th year and can remember seeing those occasions. Schooling was at a
premium.
From Cheshire through the several counties going west, the name Baggaley or nearly so is
prevalent. Also north Yorkshire the same is prevalent. But going south in England the name
Bagley is present even in London and other counties south. For instance Epswich from where
the Bagleys came to America, who were shipright and sea captains. I have an account of one
sea captain who came from South England and landed in Boston Massachusetts and an account
of their families. See America Bagleys in my record book Page 87. Orlando Bagley came in
16th century to the present.
There for in my judgment there is only one line of Bagley which orginated In Cheshire,
England.
Yours Respectfully, Thomas Baggaley 27 April 1953
1927 Longview Dr Salt Lake City, Utah USA.
History and Genealogy of the Baggaley~s 1170 to 1944.
Brief History and Origin of the Baggaley’s
From History of Cheshire, England, Vol 1 Page 550
In the conquerors tIme, Gislebertus et Ranulfus et Hams held Sutherland and Baggiley (two
townsites) which at the coming of the Normans were held by Edward, and Suga, and Udeman,
and Pat, for four Manors and were Gentlemen Wasta-esta-tola. So says the record of
doomsday. The three first named I take to be Gilbert Venerables-Baron of Kinderton Ramufus,
supposed to be the ancestors of the Manwarings. and Hamon Massey, Baron of Durham
Massey, Sutherland is locus cognitus, within the Town of Dunham Massey. About the reign of
King John. Hamon Massey then Lord of Dunham Massey • who decended from the other
Hamon before named gave unto Matthew de Bromhale. Matthew de Bromhale and Matthew de
Hale may have been the names of one person, not improbably a Massey, and the Ancestors of
the Baggileys, Bromhale, Duckenfield. and two parts of Baggiley, which the Gather of the said
Matthew held of the Said Hamon, as His Inheritance in the Knights Service, to him and his
Heirs Certain it is that this Town gave name fo the Families of Baggileys. Who were seated
here as early as 18 Henry 111-1215 Ano Domini. faciendo, pradciets, Hamon et, haeredibus,
suis, liberiesen. Sevitrum feidi uniusloricie quitting all other Service. de aratroet hosteris et
Segibus Seondis fen Collingendo et homgais faceiendo de aveiis et de omnibus alliis
consuetudinibus etc in the 1215 A.D. wiffo de Baghill occurs as a Witness to a Toft Charter in
pleas Rolls 44 Henry III Will fil Peter de Baggiley grants to john son of Hamon de Baggiley
that assart in Baggiley called Enesebrocflocis Which Will de Baggiley by his Charter gave to
the said Peter. The said John to pay yearly, twelve pence for all services saving year to the said
William, John's third best pig. when the Pig could find mast for itself. The name of Howekin de
Baggot also appear in these Rolls-- 40-46 Henry III.
Sir William Baggiley was Lord of Baggiley 13. _Edward 11. 1319 John Baggiley has son made
a feofment of the Manor of Baggiley in Cheshire England and also fo His Manor's of Hyde, and
LEveshulme 1n Lancashire England unto Sir John LEgh of Booths night Knotsford,
covenanting that Sir John shall settle them upon the said John Baggiley, and the Heir’s males of
his Body and for default of such, then to settle the Manor of Hyde on-Sir John Hyde and His
Heirs. And to settle the Manor’s of Baggiley and Leveshulme, upon William, John, and
Geoffrey, sonsof the Said Sir John Legh, and to the Heir's Males of thier bodies, in order one
after another. The remainder to Thomas Son of Richard Massey, then to John Son of Robert
Legh, Then to William Son of Piers Legh ~ then of Robert -son of Robert Massey of Kensall
Lb C tol 270 The Original in French now remaining with edward Legh of Baggiley 1666 A Fair
Seal with Sir John Legh's Coat of Arms Vis - A Bend over two bars the other Seal is
demolished. "To Wit" Baggailey Coat of Arms. Baggi-l ey Coat of Arms. Three Lozenges with
a a Bear's Head for a Crest. There is no date put to the Deed. But Sir John Legh did settle them
accordingly~ with the services of all the Freeholders in Baggiley To Wit - Richard Son of
William Richard Hod. Robert Son of William and Hamon, son of Edward the wise. Dated 1353
A.D. 28 Edward III (lib C. fol 271) John Baggiley died about 1356. John Baggiley died about
1356. In 1666 there were four Charters in Baggiley. Geoffrey, Cartwright (Gentleman) Thomas
Worsley, of Hale, Widow Tarrvin, and William Gibbon. Sir William Legh of Baggiley
"Knight" son fo Sir John Legh of Boothe’s near Knotsford, by Isabelle hissecond wife.
Daughter of Sir Wiloliam Baggiley and Sister and Coheir of John Baggiley of Baggiley married
Joane daughter of William mnawaring of OverPever. the elder 33 Edward III 1359 at which
time he was underage, and Joane but 5 year's The original penes Manwaring of Pever 1666 but
it seem she live not to have any children by him (at least that survived) and afterwards He
married Joy the widow of Sir RAufe Davenport, Cheshire for I find Sir W. Legh of Baggiley
and Joyce his wife leased to Pairs de Legh and John his brother for six years. Fro further detail
of above, See History of cheshire Vol 1 page 550-553.
The townsite of Baggiley is situated about seven miles south of Manchester in the Lancashire
on low ground, near the banks of the River Mersey one side the Quadrangle of the Baggiley
Manor is still remaining (see Photo) in the centre of which is the great Hall, is much dilapidated
in the year 1816 but exhibiting an excellent speciment of ancient, domestic, archistecture. The
sides are formed by huge beams of Oak. The Intenstices of which are filledup with
Wickerwood. In these are four large square headed Bay Windows at one end is a passage
through the building from the Exterior to the Inner court. The doors which are concealed from
the Hall, bu screen of Oak Oak Ornaments, wich pointed arches of Oak. The Upper right of
these Screens assend until they mis with the Roof. which is supported with immense arched
beams. On the other side of the passage are painted doorways opening to the Kitchen and
offices, over which are beams of corresponding magnitude with those before mentioned rudely
disposed in quatrefoils and other ornamented forsm, and seemed to have opened orginally to a
gallery. This part of the building is invariably in the Cheshire Mansions made lower than the
rest of the fabric. As the arching of the roof of the Hall does not admit of any aprtment over it.
The hall has long been occupied as a Farmhouse, but is well preserved by its present owner.
Mr. Tetton (Gatton). In the Great Hall rests the effigy of Sir William de Baggiley referred to in
the Bowden Church. At a short distance from the manor is kBaggiley Moor on leJhich is
considereable Tumulus. Which moore was opened many years ago and proved to be the
(supposed) Windmill site. At the western extremity of the moor is another mansion of more
modern date. The property and resident (or residence) of the Misses Houghton’s. A small aprt
of the Moore and about 150 Acres of Land here and in Hal adjoing, passed by and purchase in
1832 to 1834 to the Late Richard Helsby of Baggiley Lodge. The remnant of thie estate,
including the lodge, was purchased by Mr. Wood in 1866. Since 1832 the moor has been
brough into Cultivation by its various proprietors. In 1856 some portions of it together with
Lands in Baggiley amounted in whole t one hundred and thirteen acres and became the property
by purchase, of the 1ate Mr. Samuel Brooks. On Mr. Brooks (deceased) if passed by device to
his grandson, John the son fo the Reverend John Books.
The borders of this manor near Hale Sale and Timperley have for some years past, been
converted into building lands and many villas have been erected. Chiefly near the Railroad
Depot of the Altrinchan and Manchester Co. and the Branch line to Stockport. On a part of Mr.
Books land is a corner called Brookland’s a near church dedicated to Saint John the Divien, was
built in 1868. The district assigned to it consists of part of "Baggiley”,"Timperley” and "Sale",
the Aetvourson is vesteed in two of the late Mr. Brooks ons-vis the present William Cuncliffe
Brooks esq. M.P. and thomas Brooks esq. who presented the first perpetual curate the Heverend
Thomas Brooks M. A> on whoch decease in 1876 the Reverend Hugh Bethell Joneds M. A.
became the incumbent. Th Yeardling {Oin inhabit) of Baggiley proved by Sir Leycester to have
commend long after the conest and even the fact of Gilber Venerables, males ancestors of the
Leghs being fuarantee of portion of Baggiley at the conquest.
P.S. A brief history of the Legh Family closely related to the
Baggileys can be found on Page 45 (History of Cheshire)
Hyde Cheshire England
Hyde and Baggileys
The Hyde Family originated in cheshire England and were closely connected with the Baggiley
Family by marriage from th year 1500. I, (the Heir Thomas Baggaley to the Baggileys) have
many names of married couples of the Hyde’s living at 178 North Main Street
Salt Lake City~ Utah. Many of these names have had their work done in the Salt Lake Temple
and the remaining names not doen are left to the above Orson Hyde. He is at the present time~
manager of the Salt Lake Telephone System (1944) The Hyde family at least some of them
came to U.S.A. according to the following and are no doubt ancestors of the American Hydes.
George Hyde, was Sectetary of New York State was also Lieutenant Governor, Provice of New
York State~ adn lived in Hyde Hall~ after teh Fashion of Hyde Hall in cheshire England from
whence they came. He married a daughter of Sir John Baggiley of Cheshire England so that the
Baggileys and the Hyde family continue thier relationship here (U.S.A. He died 11 Nov 1777.
Brief History' of "Danyers" and "Leghs" opf Cheshire England
From History of Cheshire Vol 1 England
William Danyers Senior married AGnes de Legh of Cheshire. the daughter of Thomas de Legh
of High Legh. Daughter Margery who married Henry Horsale ofLymm (lib C fol 233} act 243.
Agnes another dauohter married alexander son of Richard, son fo Alexander de Waleton at
Darebusy. Had also two sons Thomas, of Bradley in Appleton, eldest Son, also william of
Daresbury second son and John a third son.
Sir Thomas Danyers (of Bradley) (17 Edward 11) son of heir of William Danyers, had land in
Lynne by grant of his father
Sir Thomas Danyers (of Bradley) knight son and heir of Thomas Danyers Senior Married
Isabell daughter and heir of William Baggiley by Clemence his wife his wife co heir to Sir
Roger Chedle, alias Sir Roger Dutton of Chedle in Cheshire, Which William was son of "Rafe
Baggily_ This Thomas died (Danyers) A before his father leaving only one daughter and heir
Marageret who had three husbands 1354.
John Legh (of Booths) married Maude Daughter of Sir John Ardorm (of Aldford). She died
and he married Isdabelle (2nd wife) daugthter of Williamd and Sister of John Baggiley (of
Baggiley) by whom he had william and James.
American Baggaleys Genealogical Record
The first Baggaley or (Bagley ) to coem to American from England (Suffolk by Ipswich) was
Orland a Sea captain and Shipwright. He live in Boston Massachusetts and married a Sarah
Colbv 6 March 1653. Her father's name was Anthony Colby and was subsequently of Salibury
Masschusetts probably of that part of town which is now Amesbury, Essex County. She died in
Boston 18 March 1663 Their Children are to be on th next page. Both Orlando and Sarah were
living in 1662 (div est Anthorny Colby) he Orlando apparently was not living in Amesbury
Massachusetts in 1677-1680 and both were dead in 1700.