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ARTICLE DETAILS TITLE (PROVISIONAL) AUTHORS The role of corticofugal fibres involvement in motor deficit following subcortical stroke Phan, Thanh; de Voort, Sanne; chen, jian; Beare, Richard; Ma, Henry; Clissold, Benjamin; Ly, John; Foster, Emma; Thong, Eleanor; Srikanth, Velandai VERSION 1 - REVIEW REVIEWER REVIEW RETURNED THE STUDY GENERAL COMMENTS REVIEWER REVIEW RETURNED THE STUDY Hyun Ah Kim, MD Assistant professor, Department of Neurology, Keimyung University School of Medicine,Republic of Korea I declare no competing interest. 04-Jul-2013 1. In the abstract, it is needed a concise and clearly explained description about method. 2. Is the examination time of motor deficit on admission equal to the time of brain imaging? It might be important in investigating the relationship between the degree of the motor deficit and the imaging. 2. The style of the paper is rather poor across the whole manuscript and some sentences are too long and not understandable. The reviewer completed the checklist and provided a marked-up copy which is available on request from the publisher Francesco Arba, MD, PhD student University of Florence NEUROFARBA Department Largo Brambilla, Florence, Italy 19-Jul-2013 1- Research question is not clear. Motor outcome is always affected by integrity of corticofugal fibres. The authors state "We hypothesise that motor deficit from subcortical stroke is associated with involvement of corticofugal tracts", but this is not a hypothesis, this is ALWAYS true. It should be better defined that authors aimed to correlate motor deficit with one of the corticofugal tracts. 2- Patients: it should be better defined inclusion criteria and exclusion criteria (age, range of severity of stroke, clinical and radiological criteria to select subcortical stroke, anterior or posterior stroke. I suggest to use OCSP classification). 3- Patients: it is not mentioned if any patient underwent any thrombolytic treatment. This fact could affect motor outcome at three months. Moreover, it should be better defined baseline characteristics of Downloaded from http://bmjopen.bmj.com/ on June 18, 2017 - Published by group.bmj.com patients. 4- Methods: it is not clear why authors perform MR image on normal subjects. I suppose that they do this to better define corticofugal tracts. It should be better defined in the text. 5- Methods: why authors adopted NIHSS instead of other scales (i.e. Scandinavian Stroke Scale) to detect motor deficit? NIHSS is not so sensitive to detect distal deficit in the arm (i.e. it does not consider the hand). This fact should be explicitated in the text. 6- Characteristics of patients: authors should clearly explicitate radiological profile of selected patients that may affect outcome. Did any patients have leukoaraiosis (which is an independent predictor of disability)? Did stroke damage other important corticofugal tracts that may affect outcome? 7- Clinical outcomes: they should be better explicitated because there are two different outcomes (NIHSS which is a pure clinical outcome, and mRS, which is a disability scale). 1- Results should be better presented. I suggest to build a table to correlate radiological data (i.e. tract volume involved in the stroke) with clinical outcome in a clearer way. Data are usually easier to read in tables. 2- The regression model is adjusted for which variables? It should be clearly stated in the text. 3- In the discussion section authors state "this result may have implications for interpretation of clinical images and extrapolation of infarct location for prognostication on stroke recovery". It is not clear which is the message, since they previously state and associations between involvement of corticofugal fibres to stroke motor deficit and disability were variable. Interesting exploratory study, it may be good clinical applications, particularly on patient stratification in order to define physiotherapy after discharge. It is not so clear what authors want to demonstrate. I suggest to be more pragmatic in defining methods and in reporting results. They have to be clear. Good list of reference, even if there are many references of the authors' group. RESULTS & CONCLUSIONS GENERAL COMMENTS VERSION 1 – AUTHOR RESPONSE Reviewer 1 1. In the abstract, it is needed a concise and clearly explained description about method. The abstract has been re-written. 2. Is the examination time of motor deficit on admission equal to the time of brain imaging? It might be important in investigating the relationship between the degree of the motor deficit and the imaging. The time to MR imaging was not associated with outcome. This has been dicussed in the Results section on page 11. 3. The style of the paper is rather poor across the whole manuscript and some sentences are too long and not understandable. The style has been revised. Long sentences have been removed. Downloaded from http://bmjopen.bmj.com/ on June 18, 2017 - Published by group.bmj.com Reviewer 2 1- Research question is not clear. Motor outcome is always affected by integrity of corticofugal fibres. The authors state "We hypothesise that motor deficit from subcortical stroke is associated with involvement of corticofugal tracts", but this is not a hypothesis, this is ALWAYS true. It should be better defined that authors aimed to correlate motor deficit with one of the corticofugal tracts. This statement has been changed in the abstract and the last para of the introduction (page 4). 2- Patients: it should be better defined inclusion criteria and exclusion criteria (age, range of severity of stroke, clinical and radiological criteria to select subcortical stroke, anterior or posterior stroke. I suggest to use OCSP classification). On page 5, we had defined the inclusion criteia as any patient who had subcortical infarct on MR imaging. The OCSP classfication was not used because this classfication has poor correlation with the location of infarct on MRI. This was described in Asdaghi’s paper in Stroke 2011; 42: 2143. Age and severity of stroke was not used as these features do not impact on the location of infarct. The key feature here is the presence of subcortical infarct as the corticofugal fibers traverse the white matter. The term subcortical infarct will be defined in the revised manuscript. 3- Patients: it is not mentioned if any patient underwent any thrombolytic treatment. This fact could affect motor outcome at three months.Moreover, it should be better defined baseline characteristics of patients. The baseline characteristics is described on page 10 of the Results section. The number of patients who had received tpa has been added. In our study, tpa was not associated with outcome as the proportion of patients with no to mild disability was high (47/57). 4- Methods: it is not clear why authors perform MR image on normal subjects. I suppose that they do this to better define corticofugal tracts. It should be better defined in the text. The reason for performing MR imaging in normal subjects has now been added (page 6, Methods). Further details are provided on page 16 in the Discussion under Limitations. 5- Methods: why authors adopted NIHSS instead of other scales (i.e. Scandinavian Stroke Scale) to detect motor deficit? NIHSS is not so sensitive to detect distal deficit in the arm (i.e. it does not consider the hand). This fact should be explicitated in the text. The NIHSS is a standardised method for recording motor deficit and is used in many acute stroke trials. Muir had published previous comparison study of this scale against other acute scales (Stroke 1996: 27: 1817). We had used this scale as it also record other neurological deficit such as neglect. By contrast, the SSS does not have any item for neglect. 6- Characteristics of patients: authors should clearly explicitate radiological profile of selected patients that may affect outcome. Did any patients have leukoaraiosis (which is an independent predictor of disability)? Did stroke damage other important corticofugal tracts that may affect outcome? The radiological profile is better defined. This has been added to both the Methods and Results Downloaded from http://bmjopen.bmj.com/ on June 18, 2017 - Published by group.bmj.com section. The issue of ‘leukoariosis’ had been looked at in the NINDS tpa trial by Demchuk et al. Cerebrovascular Diseases 2008; 26:120. They did not observe a treatment effect with leukoariosis. Similarly, we did not observe a relationship between leukoariosis and outcome. This is now described in the Results (page 13) and Methods (page 7-8). 7- Clinical outcomes: they should be better explicitated because there are two different outcomes (NIHSS which is a pure clinical outcome, and mRS, which is a disability scale). The Rankin score is better defined on page 5 of the Methods section. 8- Results should be better presented. I suggest to build a table to correlate radiological data (i.e. tract volume involved in the stroke) with clinical outcome in a clearer way. Data are usually easier to read in tables. The results have been moved to Table 1. 9- The regression model is adjusted for which variables? It should be clearly stated in the text. The regression was adjusted for age only according to the criteria defined in the Methods. Only variables with p<0.20 on univariable analysis were entered into multivariable models (page 10, Methods) 10- In the discussion section authors state "this result may have implications for interpretation of clinical images and extrapolation of infarct location for prognostication on stroke recovery". It is not clear which is the message, since they previously state and associations between involvement of corticofugal fibres to stroke motor deficit and disability were variable. This statement is now been changed for clarification in the first para of Discussion. 11-Interesting exploratory study, it may be good clinical applications, particularly on patient stratification in order to define physiotherapy after discharge. It is not so clear what authors want to demonstrate. I suggest to be more pragmatic in defining methods and in reporting results. They have to be clear. We had tried to correlate motor deficit at 3 months with involvement of corticofugal fibers in patients with subcortical infarcts. We agree with the reviewer that the results has implication for rehabilitation. However, we had been careful with our conclusion and discussion because of the retrospective nature of this study. 12-Good list of reference, even if there are many references of the authors' group. Only reference 5 is from our group. VERSION 2 – REVIEW REVIEWER Francesco Arba, MD Downloaded from http://bmjopen.bmj.com/ on June 18, 2017 - Published by group.bmj.com Neurologist PhD student University of Florence, Italy REVIEW RETURNED THE STUDY I have no conflict of interest 16-Aug-2013 Not clear why authors choose p<0.2 as significative instead of p<0.05, as usual. The reviewer completed the checklist but made no further comments. Downloaded from http://bmjopen.bmj.com/ on June 18, 2017 - Published by group.bmj.com Impact of corticofugal fibre involvement in subcortical stroke Thanh G Phan, Sanne van der Voort, Jian Chen, Richard Beare, Henry Ma, Benjamin Clissold, John Ly, Emma Foster, Eleanor Thong and Velandai Srikanth BMJ Open 2013 3: doi: 10.1136/bmjopen-2013-003318 Updated information and services can be found at: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/9/e003318 These include: References This article cites 23 articles, 14 of which you can access for free at: http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/9/e003318#BIBL Open Access This is an Open Access article distributed in accordance with the Creative Commons Attribution Non Commercial (CC BY-NC 3.0) license, which permits others to distribute, remix, adapt, build upon this work non-commercially, and license their derivative works on different terms, provided the original work is properly cited and the use is non-commercial. 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