From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marion lamar Perryman
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Reparations_For_Africans] Re: how do we get reparations
Brother McFadden, you have now addressed an issue, in fact, the main issue that needs to be
explained. Many white folks already know but they see how our different leaders in the various
groups and organizations have created conflicts among native black Americans about out
Autonomy/Reparations issues the main two being the Islamic and Christian factions in our movement.
They are collectively the NAACP/SCLC and The Moors/NOI. These two factions have done more to
damge our cause here than anything else being stuck on the RACE/RELIGIONS issue instead of doing
like MARTIN and MALCOLM said and present our case as a plain Human Rights/Civil Rights issues as
Native Black Americans.
This is what Martin and Malcolm were up to when they were cut down with the OAAU and The Poor
Peoples Campaign (SCLC). They were about to take our case to the states and
the federal governments on their own and then to the UN if neccessary. The powers that be agreed
that they had to be stopped but the campaign is not finished. Now let me explain
something to you and other members. American Black Nationalism , as stated by our founding fathers
and mothers, those of the revolutionary war/civil war/abolitionists periods is
nothing more or less than a native black American version of what a Constitutional Republic,
Representative Democracy, Scientific Education/Nature based society with morals, standards,
principles and ethics would/should actually be like for ALL American peoples.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then came this race/religion madness in the black American community. The NAACP/SCLC with its
attempts at christianization of all black Americans thinking that this would get us land, property, stop
discrimination and make us acceptable to white folks. Something that even Dubois spoke out against
because he knew that if white Americans under the WASP,
Aryan/KKK mentality was going to do that then they would never have enslaved our native black
American Ancestors to begin with.!!!
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Then came Noble Drew Ali and Elijah Muhammad with their attempts to Islamize a whole entire
group of people here, namely native black Americans, thinking that they were going to do the same
thing with US as the Confederate Aryan/KKK did with the Southern White Peoples with the
race/religions thing.! ALL of them are NOT LEGAL under the US Constitution itself.!!!
This Madness has affected us to this date polarizing, dividing and distracting native black Americans
from our real true aims, goals and destiny in this country here and from the NAACP, NOI, Martin,
Malcolm and COINTELPRO this seems to be a deep dark plot to keep matters this way and this
foolishness has degenerated the whole entire native black
American community, the peoples and our leaderships. In fact you can see this madness in everything
from the Moors, NOI, Crips, Bloods, Greeks/Masons, Hebrew-Israelites and other race/religions and
even street-gang/mafia based groups in our communities.!!!
That is A BLACK AMERICAN CONFEDERATE CULT MENTALITIES and it is time we address this now as
this mess has put our whole entire group of native black
Americans at stake here both spiritually and naturally.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Autonomy is NOT SEPARATION. It is the same as the relations between the cities, towns, counties,
states, the native Indian tribal governments and the federal governments. It is a wholly legal process.!
And it is NOT BASED on no Race/Religions mess.!!! It is based on our naturalization, citizenship and
habitation here.
However WE must have Political Autonomy first.!!! Land areas and all the human and natural
resources pertaining to such in our communities and areas have to be managed. This is
not a game or a joke. We have black Evil, hates, emotions, foolishness and ignorances killing us
ourselves now.!!! Yes our own negativity has, is and will kill us to just as surely as the
white evil and madness but the game/joke for blaming "white folks" for every negative thing and then
black evil is every damn where, that sick game is just about over. Many people have profited off of it
too.!!!
I don't want to talk about it further (right now that is) but you can BET there is some people to be
seen here now in our own communities about this madness.!!! We could have been
had autonomous native black American land areas here and as for separation the evil whites that
used race/religons on us already has a majority of us still segregated to a certain degree. We have got
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to get out of this race/religions madness here with these sick groups with sick mentalities holding us
hostage here from within.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of our main undeniable claims for reparations against white folks is the race/religions madness
itself ( and you can BET they know it) and here we have this degenerate condition
among our ownselves with certain black leaders and leading groups in native black American society
here. The many factors and elements associated with this cult mentality will also be looked and
seriously addressed from historical facts.
Later on, I will file a Petition for Political Unity for Political Autonomy. There can be no land grants or
reparations untill that happens because the basis of our promblems here is POLITICAL.! The race,
religions, gender, class issues are all subsumed under that.! This petition will be a practical/working
one, not a philosophy.!
That is all for now.
MLP,
Pharoah Kanaan.
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Reparations_For_Africans] Re: how do we get reparations
In a message dated 6/29/2012 5:05:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Pianki, to answer you and Mr. McFadden collectively, let us see here.
Well, dear friend, I appreciate your taking the time to answer. I will respond as best I am able.
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We were told that Vessey's, Turner's slave rebellions would not work,
Not sure what your point is here. Those were noble and (my opinion) morally correct efforts, but in
the end they were killed and slavery continued, so it's hard to say their plans worked!
we were told that Mama Sisters Tubman's and Truth's campaigns for freedom by way of underground
railroads and constitutional inclusion would not work,
Well I think Sister Tubmans work freeing slaves was successful, but....
we were/have been told that Dubois's NAACP, Garvey's UNIA, Elijah's NOI, Dr. King's SCLC would not
work.!
I'm just not sure what your point is. No body is arguing that the great freedom fighters you listed
should not have attempted to do the things they did, but if all their efforts worked, black folks would
not find themselves in our present condition. That fact (my opinion) doesn't demean their efforts, but
our schools are still largely segregated, slavery lasted for decades after the various rebellions and
black folks still catching hell! An effort can be worthwhile and nobile, even it doesn't bring about the
intended goal.
I guess my point regarding the separation issue (I assume that's what we are talking about) is that I
both think it will never happen and I think it's a bad idea to incorporate it in our demand for
Reparations!
Is this will not work, would not work syndrome is what i am hearing out of you too.???
Again, speaking just for myself, I think it's an idea that is both not remotely possible and it is unfair to
the black folk who are doing well where they are! Personally, I struggle, so it might work for me (I
don't think so) but some of us are doing well and I think we should consider them as we move
forward!
Granted, your concerns about the reactions of everyone in American society here is well, well taken
into account!
I am only concerned about the reactions of folks from other communities in as much as I think they
will impact the degree to which our demand will be met, afterwards, I am only concerned with how
our people feel.
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