WEB REPORT LA/R/1800 Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland REPORT Complaint number LA/R/1800 concerning an alleged contravention of the Councillors’ Code of Conduct by Councillor Paul Mack of Renfrewshire Council CONTENTS 1.0 Introduction 2.0 Outline of the Complaint and the Response 3.0 The Investigation 4.0 Consideration of the Evidence 5.0 Findings and Conclusion Appendix A The Complaint Appendix B The Response Appendix C List of Persons Interviewed Appendix D The respondent’s representations on the Proposed Report Appendix E The Commissioner’s comments on representations on the Proposed Report 1.0 Introduction 1.1 Complaint number LA/R/1800 alleges a contravention of the Councillors’ Code of Conduct (“the Code”). The Code was issued by the Scottish Ministers in terms of section 1 of the Ethical Standards in Public Life etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 (“the 2000 Act”) and came into effect on 1 May 2003. A revised edition of the Code was issued on 21 December 2010. 1.2 The complaint has been lodged by Councillor Jacqueline Henry (“the complainant”) who alleges a contravention of the Code by Councillor Paul Mack (“the respondent”). The respondent and complainant are elected members of Renfrewshire Council (“the Council”). 1.3 It is alleged that the respondent has contravened the Councillors’ Code of Conduct, and, in particular, paragraph 3.2 in respect of conduct at meetings. Paragraph 3.2 of the Code states: Conduct at Meetings 3.2 You must respect the chair, your colleagues, Council employees and any members of the public present during meetings of the Council, its Committees or Sub-Committees or of any Public Bodies where you have been appointed by, and represent the Council. You must comply with rulings from the chair in the conduct of the business of these meetings. The Standards Commission for Scotland’s Guidance for Councillors and Local Authorities in Scotland, current at the time of the alleged contravention, advises: 7. Paragraph 3.2 provides that you must respect the Chair, your colleagues, Council employees and any members of the public present and provides some examples of the type of meetings to which this provision applies. However, as stated above, paragraph 3.1 provides that that the rules of good conduct set out in Section 3 must be observed in all situations where councillors are acting as councillors, including representing the Council in official business and the list of meetings to which this provision applies should be viewed as illustrative, rather than exhaustive. The effect of the provision is that councillors must respect the Chair, colleagues, Council employees and any members of the public in all situations where they act as councillors including – but not restricted to – meetings of the Council, its committees and sub-committees or of any public bodies where they have been appointed by, and represent the Council. Conduct at Meetings 8. The role of the Chair in any Council meeting, which includes a Committee meeting or a meeting of a working group or similar forum, is to ensure that the agenda of business is properly dealt with and clear decisions are reached. To do this, the Chair has a responsibility to ensure that the views and opinions of other participants (including the advice of officers) are allowed to be expressed and, at the same time, he/she has a responsibility for proper and timely conduct of the meeting and for ensuring that the meeting is conducted in compliance with the Council’s Standing Orders. This includes determining the point at which conclusions should be reached. It requires a balanced approach to ensure fairness to participants while at the same time dealing firmly with any attempt to disrupt or unnecessarily delay the meeting. Members present share the responsibility for the proper and expeditious discharge of business and the role of the Chair in reaching such judgments requires to be supported and respected. 9. Councillors are accountable for their own individual conduct in the Chamber or Committee at all times in terms of the Councillors’ Code of Conduct irrespective of the conduct of others. Abusive or offensive language should not be tolerated and it is a matter for the Chair to rule on the acceptability of language used during the course of a meeting and to take appropriate action as necessary, including requiring withdrawal of a remark, requiring an apology, or any other action required to allow the meeting to properly proceed. 1.4 The respondent has signed a declaration of acceptance of the office of councillor under the Local Authorities (Councillors) (Declaration of Acceptance of Office) (Scotland) Order 1990, as amended, in terms of which the respondent has undertaken to meet the requirements of the Councillors’ Code of Conduct in the performance of his functions in that office. 1.5 For the purpose of this investigation, I was assisted by Mr Ian Innes, Investigating Officer. 1.6 This Report has been prepared for submission to the Standards Commission for Scotland in terms of section 14(2) of the 2000 Act. The Report was submitted in proposed form to the respondent for any representations. Details of the representations received and the extent to which the representations have been accepted or otherwise are set out in Appendices D and E. 2.0 Outline of the Complaint and the Response The Complaint 2.1 The complaint is set out in a complaint form which is attached as Appendix A. The complainant alleges that at a meeting of the Education and Children Policy Board of Renfrewshire Council on 20 August 2015 the respondent behaved in a disrespectful way by using offensive and abusive language and refusing to accept the rulings of the Chair. The Response 2.2 The response is set out in an email of 26 October 2015 from the respondent which is attached as Appendix B. The respondent also referred to his email of 27 August 2015, the text of which was attached by the complainant to her complaint form and is contained in Appendix A. In essence he put forward two arguments. The first was that he was being humorous and speaking figuratively which he feels should have been recognised. The second was that there was a history of animosity between the complainant and others, including the complainant’s husband, and the respondent which led to an unnecessarily critical response to his comments. 3.0 The Investigation 3.1 To establish the background to the complaint, the Investigating Officer sought and received information from the Council. 3.2 Having considered the documentary evidence, the Investigating Officer proceeded individually to interview the complainant, the respondent and relevant witnesses. The interviews took place on 7 December 2015. A list of those interviewed is attached as Appendix C. 4.0 Consideration of the Evidence 4.1 Councillor Paul Mack is an independent councillor and was elected in 2012. He had previously been a member of the Labour Party and had been elected as a councillor for Renfrew District Council between 1992 and 1995 and then for Renfrewshire Council between 1995 and 1999. 4.2 Councillor Jacqueline Henry is the Convener of the Education and Children Policy Board of Renfrewshire Council. Councillor Paul Mack is a member of the Board. 4.3 The Board met on 20 August 2015. The final item on the agenda was a report by the Director of Finance and Resources on an invitation from the Oberburgermeister of the Council’s twin town, Furth in Germany for a small delegation from Renfrewshire Council to visit Furth between 8 and 13 October 2015 to strengthen town twinning links. The Report intimated that after discussion with the Provost and the Director of Children’s Services the Board were being asked to approve a delegation comprising the Provost, Convener of the Education and Children Policy Board and two senior Education Officers to visit Furth to study their educational practices, in particular the steps being taken to tackle the adverse impact that living in poverty could have on educational attainment. The travel costs estimated at £3,000 would be met from the international links budget. 4.4 Councillor Henry invited an officer to speak to the report and then made some comments herself. She then opened it to the floor and Councillor Cameron, the SNP spokesperson on education, spoke against the report recommending the position of the previous SNP/Lib Dem administration which stopped supporting councillor delegations to twin towns on the basis that such visits did not produce results significant enough to justify the cost, given the financial savings the Council had to make. The SNP continued, however, to support educational visits by schoolchildren to Furth accompanied by teachers and officers of the Council. Councillor Cameron seconded by Councillor Lawson moved an amendment that the Board should not support the councillor delegation to Furth. 4.5 The respondent was then invited to speak. He was against the report. He spoke for several minutes and became animated and loud. There is no record of his actual words and no agreement by the parties as to the exact words he used but there is general agreement between witnesses that he said, “I can see the headlines now in the Paisley Distress (sic). Annie and Jackie are going to Germany on the lash. Playing hide the frankfurter with the Oberburgermeister”. The complainant’s recollection is that the respondent referred to the Provost and her as “Wee Annie and wee Jackie” and that he also referred to the Oberburgermeister as “Oberburgermeister Tommy”. The notes of the officer witness taken at the time refer to the first names of the complainant and the Provost but not the adjective “wee”. The Press report in the Paisley Daily Express does not refer to the use of the Provost’s or Convener’s first names. The respondent said that he did not know the Oberburgermeister’s first name and therefore could not have used it. 4.6 The complainant objected to the respondent’s comments and threatened to adjourn the meeting if he did not stop. It had no effect and she felt he was not paying any attention to her. According to the complainant, the respondent talked over her. She adjourned the meeting and as she left the room the respondent shouted “There are no dirty words only dirty minds”. 4.7 After five minutes or so, the complainant returned to the chamber and reconvened the meeting. She called on Councillor Lawson to speak and he started to do so. The respondent intervened and asked if he was not going to be allowed to continue speaking. The complainant decided that she was not going to risk further disruption and moved that the vote be taken. That took place and the motion was passed and the meeting was then concluded. 4.8 The following day the complainant wrote to the Chief Executive concerning the respondent’s behaviour at the meeting. She considered the remarks to be sexual in nature and to be offensive, abusive and sexist. She pointed out that the remarks were made in the presence of officers, including female officers and she was concerned to protect officers from any future incidents. The complainant was advised that the Chief Executive could not take any action unless there were complaints from officers. 4.9 On 27 August the respondent sent an email to all his fellow councillors as follows: “ “The Lady Protests too much me thinks". There's nothing new under the Sun. Apropos Councillor Henrys' faux offence and phony indignation, it's a clumsy attempt to deflect attention from her own misfeasance and a practice which has been going on for decades. I first delivered those allegedly 'offensive remarks' in the Robertson Centre on the evening when they were closing Stanley Green Sports Facility and Ardentinny Lodge, while the provost had (note, past tense) just swanned off to Germany. In those days (July 1996) we were asked to 'homologate' Nancy's peregrinations - should I re-phrase that, in case Councillor Henry takes offence? It was received on that occasion to howls of laughter. Then, like now, officers were terrified to be seen even swapping pleasantries with 'moi'. It was redolent of the old plenary session of the Chinese National Peoples Council when the first to sit down and stop applauding was taken out and shot. The poor Director of Planning was caught with his knuckles in his mouth hoping Mrs Alison wouldn't catch him laughing. Provost Alison on Councillor Henry's advice summoned the police. It was to presage an administration that this town is still picking up the tab for to this day. Lets turn to the afternoon in question and the Education and Children Policy Board (20/8/2015). I've always taken view that those who make a lucrative living out of being offended - The Offenderati' of which Councillor Henry is the doyen should try and consider the author's intentions rather than their own. Any impartial observer couldn't have failed to notice that day that there was a total absence of rancor or malevolence. Good humour was in the air, we just witnessed the county's finest sixformers receive the prestigious Duke of Edinburgh awards and their parents were understandably chuffed. Still basking in the reflective glory, intoxicated by this, I said the following sotto voce,"Convenor, for an administration which is acutely conscious of how matters appear in the Distress, I can see the headline - you're just going off on the lash. Playing hide the frankfurter with the, Oberburgermiester". Of course I was speaking figuratively and I think I threw in some working-class argot which Councillor Henry with her twee petit bourgeois pretensions seems to have a pathological aversion to, Kenneth in his reportage as is his wont, took a razor to the iambic pentameter and dropped the 'Oberburgermiester' which tends to deaden the effect of the playful repetition and classic, polysyllabic humour, a la Blackadder, Les Dawson and Winston Churchill. I don't know about you but I'm beginning to find Councillor Henry's histrionics every time I open my mouth quite tiresome. I find the Henrys greed and grasping vulgarity, singularly offensive but I, unfortunately, have to keep my own counsel. Aye Yours Councillor Paul Mack” 4.10 In his evidence, the respondent pointed out that there was a legitimate issue for political challenge in terms of money being spent on a trip abroad for councillors in the context of the current cuts to the budgets of public bodies. He said he was trying to use humour to help make his point. He never meant to be offensive. He was also pointing out the likely headline which would appear in the local press. He did not accept there was any sexual innuendo. He said he was trying to do his “adolescent/undergraduate humour a la Les Dawson, Kenneth Williams and Blackadder”. He described his comment as like a seaside picture postcard but that it was a “euphemism for improper conduct”. He felt it was “much ado about nothing” and that it fell within the cut and thrust of politics. He also stated that there was a history of bad blood going back many years between him and the complainant’s husband who had previously been a councillor and the effect of that was to make the complainant overly-sensitive to his behaviour. He said she would like to cast him in “the role as a crypto-misogynist”. 4.11 With regard to his compliance with the rulings of the Chair the respondent’s view was that following the adjournment he re-asserted his request to speak only once and accepted the ruling. 4.12 The complainant said that she found the respondent’s comments distasteful and offensive particularly as a woman and found them personally abusive. As stated in her letter to the Chief Executive she found the comments to be sexual in nature and sexist. She did not find them humorous and apart from possibly two members of the opposition, nobody laughed. She thought the tone and manner of speaking did not convey humour and were inappropriate. She also found the comments in the email from the respondent offensive, particularly the final paragraph and the reference to “twee petit bourgeois pretensions”. 5.0 Findings and Conclusion 5.1 The complainant alleges that Councillor Paul Mack contravened the Councillors’ Code of Conduct, as outlined in paragraphs 1.3 and 2.1 of this Report. 5.2 The complaint alleges the respondent used abusive and offensive language at a meeting of Renfrewshire Council’s Education and Children Policy Board of 20 August 2015 and failed to comply with rulings from the Chair. The language which was complained about was a comment by the respondent in relation to a proposal that the complainant and the Provost take part in a visit to Renfrewshire’s twin town in Germany. The comment was to the effect that the decision would attract newspaper coverage along the lines of “Annie and Jackie are going to Germany on the lash. Playing hide the frankfurter with the Oberburgermeister”. I was satisfied from the evidence that the respondent had used the first names of the complainant and the Provost. 5.3 The relevant parts of paragraph 3.2 of the Councillors’ Code of Conduct say that “You must respect the chair, your colleagues …during meetings of the Council, its committees…You must comply with rulings from the Chair in the conduct of the business of these meetings”. 5.4 Paragraph 9 of the Standards Commission for Scotland’s Guidance for Councillors and Local Authorities in Scotland in force at the relevant time relates to paragraph 3.2 of the Code and includes the guidance that “Abusive or offensive language should not be tolerated and it is a matter for the Chair to rule on the acceptability of language used during the course of a meeting and to take appropriate action as necessary, including requiring withdrawal of a remark, requiring an apology, or any other action required to allow the meeting to properly proceed.” 5.5 Two questions arise in respect of the respondent’s behaviour in the context of the Code. The first is whether he failed to respect the Chair particularly in his use of allegedly abusive or offensive language and the second is whether he failed to comply with rulings from the Chair. 5.6 It is generally accepted that those involved in politics require to have a higher level of tolerance of criticism of their political views and actions than other members of the community, and that the restrictions imposed by the Code should not unduly restrain robust debate on public matters. It should be possible, however, to have robust public debate without being personally offensive or using derogatory language. 5.7 The issue with regard to the respondent’s comments is whether they fell within the “cut and thrust” of politics and in particular whether they can be regarded, as argued by the respondent, as humorous and inoffensive. There is no doubt that there was a legitimate topic for debate in respect of the issue of funding councillors to visit the Council’s twin town in Germany and that is reinforced by the contribution of the SNP opposition to the debate which was critical of the recommendation in the officer’s report. The respondent said that his comments were meant to be humorous and not meant to be offensive. The test to be applied in respect of such comments must, however, be an objective one, whatever the intentions of the respondent were. As he stated, the comments gave rise to innuendo and he described them as “adolescent” and of the seaside picture postcard variety. From an objective perspective, there seems little doubt that the comments were capable of giving rise to sexual innuendo. It is the nature of innuendo that it has a level of vagueness and ambiguity which makes it impossible to ascribe to it any exact meaning and therefore little point in trying to analyse it any further. The respondent also personalised it by the use of the first names of the complainant and the Provost and the suggestion that they were engaged in a game. His comments as the complainant adjourned the meeting also appeared to reinforce his determination to continue to use his innuendo in a disruptive way. The respondent made no serious claim to the effect that he was simply trying to warn the complainant of the likely reporting of the decision in the press. In fact his comments seemed designed to achieve such reporting as opposed to avoiding it. 5.8 The key principle of “Respect” in paragraph 2.1 of the Code calls for “courtesy at all times”. In addition, paragraph 8 of the Standards Commission Guidance to the Code states that “abusive or offensive language should not be tolerated.” It is implicit in this that neither should it be used. The language used by the respondent was both offensive in terms of the sexual innuendo and abusive in terms of personalising it in the name of the complainant and the Provost. I do not accept that it was a case of over-sensitivity on the part of the complainant. The lack of respect for the Chair continued in terms of the email issued by the respondent to his fellow councillors on 27 August 2015. I therefore find that the respondent failed to respect the Chair and was in breach of paragraph 3.2 of the Code. 5.9 In relation to the second aspect of the complaint, I have to consider whether the respondent failed to comply with rulings from the Chair. He showed no sign of taking into account the views of the complainant as the Chair of the meeting and proceeded to talk over her until she felt that the only course was to adjourn the meeting. The respondent pointed out that he accepted the complainant’s decision not to let him continue speaking when the meeting re-convened. However he clearly did not respect her attempts to control him in the period leading up to the adjournment. There are respectful ways of challenging or questioning rulings from the Chair which the respondent could have used. He chose not to and I find that he failed to comply with paragraph 3.2 of the Code. 5.10 In relation to LA/R/1800, I have come to the conclusion that, having regard to the findings in section 5 and in particular paragraphs 5.7, 5.8 and 5.9 of this Report, Councillor Paul Mack has contravened the Councillors’ Code of Conduct. Bill Thomson Commissioner Thistle House 91 Haymarket Terrace Edinburgh EH12 5HE 15 August 2016
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