WELCOME TO PROTONS FOR BREAKFAST SPRING 2011 WEEK 4: GLOBAL WARMING 1 PfB13 Week 4 These are the feedback questions & comments from Week 3 (16 MARCH 2011). You said… I said… Really enjoyed the session – I feel like I’m learning something new Excellent! each week – Great ice cream too! • Mmmm. Air is a mixture of mainly nitrogen (79%), Oxygen • If air is a mixture (19%) Argon (1%) together with trace amounts of H20 and of gases what impact do they have CO2. These molecules are constantly bombarding all the on the things they surfaces of everything all the time – each atom on the touch e.g. the surface of a solid is being hit around a million million furniture times every second! surrounded by air or • If the average speed of gas molecules is faster than the even us? average speed of molecules in the solid, then on average the gas molecules slow down, and transfer some of their • Do the energy of motion (called ‘heat’) to the cold object. temperatures change? • You are welcome! • Thanks for answering my question last week. • Glad you liked the ice • Interesting presentation and good ice cream! cream • At first I wasn’t very enthusiastic about coming, but • I am glad you are now I think it’s quite interesting and ‘boggling’. beginning to enjoy it. Everything is better explained than at school!!! • Yes. They emit gases such as CO2 and • Do volcanoes contribute to climate change? clouds of fine particles, both of which affect the climate. • Is there anything we can do about it if • No. they do? • Delicious ice cream. Thank you ice • You are welcome. And yes, are they not cream makers! a great team! • I know! I am amazed each time • Infra-red handprint on the wall was too! amazing! • You are welcome • And thank you for the delicious ice-cream! • You are welcome. Well you can • Thanks for a fun and enlightening session! write any questions you think Hmm…. no questions I can think of right now down when you think of them but I’m sure I’ll think of something as soon as I and bring them along next get home. week. • The ice cream was delectable and tickled the • Indeed. atoms on my tastebuds! • ? A paradox • Heat is cool! 2 You said… I said… • I love the songs. • Me too • It is wonderful stuff. • The nitrogen, when you poured • Well observed. It was because cooling the rubber of the balloon changed its properties. Rubber is made from many it in the bucket, long molecules of latex which are all mixed up higgledywas really cool, piggledy (and ‘Yes’, that is a technical term☺). steam/mist went everywhere, o At room temperature the molecules jiggle a lot and as the when I put my rubber is stretched the molecules can work their way past hand in the mist each other. So an object made of rubber can change its it felt really shape dramatically. cold. o When cooled, the molecules jiggle much less and the complex network of molecules becomes locked together. • Why does the So when an object made of rubber is cooled it becomes balloon make a much more rigid. cracking sound when you take it • The sound you heard was the sound of various bits of the out of the rubber (which were still cold and rigid) ‘creaking’ as they nitrogen? became stretched as the balloon expanded • Good point. It has taken people several hundred years • How do you work all to figure this out and it may look like I am clever, but I this stuff out? am not. I am just familiar with this way of looking at • How does dry ice things. work? • I am not sure what you are asking here. In the same way that liquid water is just condensed water vapour, and ice is just solid water, so dry ice is just cooled carbon dioxide. It has been cooled so much that the molecules are moving so slowly that when they come near each other they stick together. • Thank you. • This week was more awesome than the • Yes, halogen bulbs are typically ~300 °C hotter than other awesome weeks. conventional incandescent bulbs. And yes, the current does affect the temperature of the bulb. Running a bulb • Are halogen bulbs this hot causes the tungsten to evaporate (yes! hotter than other evaporate!) so fast that a normal bulb would darken as ones and does the the tungsten was deposited on the inner surface of the current affect it? (relatively cold) glass. In a halogen bulb, a small amount of iodine (usually) is put inside the bulb and this reacts with the deposited tungsten to make tungsten iodide. If the glass is made extra hot – around 250 °C – then the tungsten iodide evaporates from the glass and redeposits the tungsten back on the filament! What a great trick! • Thanks again! It was really interesting and I’ve learnt so much • You are yet again! welcome • Oh yeah, and thank you for the ice cream – it was delicious! Very informative and fun as always! Everyone is being too nice this week! But Thank you and cannot wait for next week! thank you any way ☺ 3 You said… • • Where can I get liquid nitrogen and dry ice? • • I knew this is irrelevant…. but where do you get • your cookies from? Their lush! • Loved the ice cream. • How much did the Hovercrafts cost? • Do they use liq. nitrogen in commercial ice cream making? • • • Why can’t we see the infra red light and the camera can? How did you find out that atoms send out waves? Today was amazing! I loved all the experiments and the hovercrafts! It was great. I said… If you are teacher and would like to be trained to use liquid nitrogen, please contact us and we can help. Our liquid nitrogen is supplied by BOC Dry Ice comes from Yara and is available from their Heathrow plant via mail order. Mmm. They are supplied by a our catering team. I will investigate to find out whether ‘lush’ is a compliment, and if it is, I will pass it on. Thanks. I think. • ☺ • £450 each, but see my blog for a cheaper version (blog.protonsforbreakfast.org) • Liquid nitrogen is used in many ‘cook chill’ processes where cooked food must be chilled rapidly to make packaged meals – fresh or frozen. However ice cream needs to be stirred as it cools so I am not sure if liquid nitrogen is used in that application. There is also a business in Camden which sells ice cream made with liquid nitrogen: http://www.chinchinlabs.com/ • The infra red light that the camera detects is being emitted all around us all the time. Including from inside our eyes. So there is just too much of it for us to ‘see’ with it. It would be like to trying to take a photograph using a camera that had a light inside the camera constantly overloading the detector. In order to work, the thermal camera uses a miniature refrigerator which cools its detector and its local environment to -200 °C (Yes: inside the camera!). At this temperature very little infra red light is emitted by the components of the detector so when the infra red light falls on the camera, from outside focussed by the lens, the detector can ‘see’ the image. • People have known for sometime. Firstly people noticed that hot objects - even when they were not visibly glowing – still seemed to emit radiation of some kind that warmed detectors (usually small thermometers). You are familiar with this because you feel the warmth from a radiator from a distance even when it is not glowing with visible light. Then people looked at the spectrum of visible light from glowing hot objects. They noticed that when they used detectors other than their eyes to look at the spectrum, (e.g. cameras or other light sensitive instruments) that they could detect radiation beyond where the visible red part of the spectrum ended. • Glad you enjoyed it. 4 You said… • Why can’t you go any lower than – 273.15 °C. • Why is there an absolute zero? • Why isn’t there a similar thing for how hot heat can get? • • • • • • • I said… • Because temperature is a measure of the speed of molecular motion, and molecular motion ceases completely at absolute zero. This defines absolute zero (0 degrees kelvin) exactly. • On the absolute temperature scale, water freezes at +273.15 degrees kelvin. On the celsius scale, water freezes at +0 degrees Celsius. Since the size of a degree celsius is defined as being equal to a degree kelvin, water freezes at −273.15 degrees celsius exactly. • Absolute zero is the lowest possible temperature because molecules can’t go slower than not moving at all. There isn’t a highest possible temperature because there is no limit to the amount of energy microscopic particles may possess, • Well I feel obliged to mention that stars When a star dies does it aren’t alive in the first place. But when the collapse in on itself? nuclear fuel within a star is used up, then Have you listened to the gravity will cause the star to collapse. Electromagnetic Spectrum song on You Tube? • I have now, and I have to say I prefer the song I played you. The bit on the back is not blank • Ahhh. We used to have text which read it has words on it. ‘Except for this writing, this page is intentionally blank’, but it seemed a bit pedantic. • Absolutely so. These concepts are not Although I was useless at physics at at all obvious and are very hard to school I have found the basic concepts grasp. It takes a long time for them to fascinating and it’s taken a long time to feel ‘familiar’ and so allow one to think understand them! about them. Michael’s lectures are full of infectious • Thank you enthusiasm! • They are great opening up our eyes to I took the glasses back to school and another dimension of light. the children had fun looking through them and discussing colours in • Not quite. Temperature is a measure of connection with a ‘colours’ poem and the average speed with which atoms bizarrely Red nose day! and molecules move, but on average they don’t travel in any particular If temp is a measurement of the speed direction – the directions of the with which atoms and molecules move is molecules are random. Also the atoms it actually measuring the electricity and molecules are electrically neutral generated by the movement of said so they don’t carry and electric atoms? current. I am not sure this exactly answers what you asked. 5 You said… • If all atoms ‘jiggle’ – does everything send out waves measured in ‘hertz’ – e.g. does a solid send out a wave measurable in hertz? • Do we see colours in solid objects because of the amount the atoms in that solid are jiggling. …..or am I confused?? • • • • • • I said… • Mmmm, Yes. All substances – solids, liquids and gases emit infra red light. At room temperature, solids emit electromagnetic waves with a range of frequencies including microwaves and infra red light. The exact spread depends on temperature. At around room temperature the peak frequency is approximately 60 THz i.e. 60,000 Ghz or 60,000,000,000,000 Hz. The waves at this frequency have a wavelength of approximately 0.005 mm. • You are a bit confused. Assuming the solid object is not hot enough to be a source of visible light (as opposed to infra red light – see your first question) then we see colours in objects because of the way they absorb and emit the light which falls upon them. Light is an electromagnetic wave and certain frequencies are absorbed especially strongly by particular molecules – we call them dyes and pigments. • We buy from BOC, who can deliver to you if you are set up to Where do receive. If you are school contact Andrew Hanson and find out you buy liquid how to get some for free, along with training. nitrogen? • I don’t think a black hole leads anywhere. There are – to the best Where does of my knowledge – no unambiguously identified black holes – only a black hole very heavy dark objects which cannot be seen directly. So ‘black lead? holes’ is what we think will happen to matter at extremely high What is a density, but we really don’t know how they behave. What we have gamma ray? instead are thousands of theorists who can speculate how they Love it! Still a bit boggling might behave. but love it! • A gamma ray is very very high frequency electromagnetic wave. o Visible light is emitted when an electron in the outer orbits around an atom (a valence electron) is disturbed. o Ultra violet light and X-rays are emitted when an electron in the inner part of an atom is disturbed. Because they are nearer the nucleus, the electric field is much more intense than it is for valence electrons, and the forces on electrons are consequently much greater. o The electric force is not usually strong enough to accelerate electrons faster than this. Gamma rays are created when protons within the nucleus are disturbed. The vibration of the proton is caused by the strong force, but because the protons are charged, a high frequency electromagnetic wave is emitted. • Indeed. The hovercraft gave a whole new • I am glad – maybe it was worth it after dimension to the learning of science. all. Ice cream was very good – Thank you. • You are welcome 6 You said… I said… • Do you mean in a light bulb? Yes, that would be a • Because the light is so hot risk, and that probably controls just how small shouldn’t it shatter the light bulbs of a particular power can be made. glass? • A protein called keratin – like finger nails but • Nothing to do with tonight’s discussion but what is hair long and thin. made of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratin • The most interesting and • Thank you. I can’t really talk about volcanoes, exciting discussion yet, today but I can tell you that the reason the interior of I learnt about volcanoes and the Earth is so hot is because of the radioactive how they are formed (in decay of Uranium, Thorium and Potassium which school) can you give me a are present as traces throughout nearly all the more detailed explanation. rocks on Earth. • Is bread dough a solid • Great Question. The categorisation of substances into solid, liquid and gas is really useful, but does not cover or a liquid? This all the structures in which we find matter. Bread is always confuses me, as really a foam – a class of materials all on their own with it looks like a solid, but it can move easily properties that vary critically with the size and density and stretch. of the bubbles. Most importantly, many biological substances are really intermediate between liquids and • Thank you again, I had solids. They occupy a category known as liquid crystals, a brilliant time and I can’t wait until next which also have many technological uses in displays. week. • You are welcome. • Thank you for doing your homework. Wow −71 °C! Very • Yakutia coldest chilly. populated place (Siberia). • Ha Ha! • Not sure I understood • Mmmm. This is a very much abbreviated story. But here goes…The electrons which orbit atoms behave like tiny the ice cream electromagnets. But if two electrons orbit the same demonstration – could atom they tend to orbit the atom in opposite senses – you do it again next one clockwise and the other anti-clockwise - so their week please! magnetic fields cancel each other out. However in some • How are the atoms atoms, such as terbium atoms, a whole group of generating magnetism electrons (6 in the case of terbium) all orbit in the – is it electricity nucleus in the same sense. At high temperatures, the again? electrons orbiting one atom are not aligned with those orbiting a neighbouring atom – and so the magnetic properties of a large group of atoms are not too strong. When we cool the atoms they stop jiggling so much and line up and create an awesome magnet! Mmm. Good point. I hadn’t thought of that. So presumably any induction hob can only heat to a certain temperature (if it has no But that only limits the temperature to ~780 °C at which point the pan would red restrictions) because after that the pans hot! would no longer be magnetic? 7 You said… I said… Typically 1000 °C. When you can just see the dull red glow What would the temp be of something the temperature is around 700 °C. Steel of a roaring fire in the begins to melt at around 1300 °C and I doubt you would be house made of wood, able to achieve that in a fire without additionally blowing in wallpaper? air with a bellows. Loved the ice cream and sorbet – Thanks! You are welcome I am glad that you are now Thank you very much for, yet again, another brilliant presentation. I have really learnt a lot today and atoms friends with atoms. I hope you will stay friends for life. are now my best friends! Yes, the liquid nitrogen makes a shocking sound when it Enjoyed the sound of the falls on carpets. When it falls onto a smooth surface it liquid nitrogen as it was lasts for many seconds before evaporating. When it hits sound. A bit similar to the the carpet, it instantly turns to gas – hence the sound as water “boiling off” in the the ‘shock’ wave travels away from the carpet. frying pan. Another cool I am not quite sure how to take that but I think it’s a compliment, evening with our Thank you. hot presenter! A. Its not just NPL: no scientists use °F anywhere in the world. Only the inertia of the public in the USA keeps the unit alive. The Q: When did NPL stop using °F? And main internationally agreed unit of temperature is the kelvin (K). This is zero at absolute zero and 273.15 K at the ice point and is why? linked directly to the speed of molecules. The celsius scale is just offset from the kelvin scale so that it starts at −273.15 °C (absolute zero) and has the value 0 °C at the ice point. Thus the degree Celsius is linked directly to fundamental definition of temperature. The degree Fahrenheit has no fundamental link to temperature and is defined with two arbitrary fixed point temperatures. So although it is familiar to older attendees here (including myself) it is not linked to basic physics. • Thank you • Good session. (Tasty ice • Well no one has measured it – the centre of the Earth is 6400 cream). km deep and the deepest hole we have drilled is just a little over 10 km deep! But by modelling, and examining the passage • What is the of seismic (sound) waves that travel through the Earth, we temperature at deduce it is approximately 5500 °C, just below the the centre of temperature of the surface of the Sun: ~6400 °C the Earth? 8 You said… • Very interesting – I learnt and revised lots of things as you showed us this lesson when you visited our school (Waldegrave). • I learnt about iron and how it loses it magnetic field when heated. • Why is the Earth’s core not magnetic? – if iron loses its magnetic field when heated? Years ago, the fridge we had was a Kelvinator! I said… • Thank you: I feel happy whenever anyone remembers anything I say! • Excellent, well remembered • The Earth’s core is not magnetic for two reasons. Firstly it is too hot – way too hot! And secondly, the pressure forces iron to adopt a different crystal structure which is not magnetic. The Earth’s magnetic fields arise from electrical currents which flow in the liquid molten metal part of the Earth’s outer core. It is an unsolved problem – no one knows exactly how the Earth’s Geo-Dynamo (what we call the system that generates the Earth’s magnetic field) works. Perhaps you could solve the problem for us ☺? Yes! – what a great name! Instead of having a fridge called that I had to call my son Kelvin! Still I guess it is better than having the fridge of my dreams and a son called Bosch! Does everything become Not everything, but many things. When the chaotic magnetic when it’s cold jiggling of atoms dies down many solids adopt ‘ordered enough? states’ which are magnetic or superconducting. • Yes It’s Motion Motion Everywhere! • Wowza! So much going on around me that I didn’t realise. • I don’t know why the connections are not made clearer. I suspect it is • I’m so impressed with how you can associated with the ‘unit structure’ explain and demonstrate these concept inherent in many syllabuses, concepts so clearly. Why aren’t all and the fact that many GCSE’s and A these connections made clear at second levels can be passed without ever level/school? taking an exam on the whole syllabus. • Well, thank you for the lecture. I’m delighted with what I’ve learned • Glad to have a happy customer ☺ tonight and I’m really looking forward • Yes, many people are familiar with a to next week. great deal of science – but the connections between the areas of • The connections between things really science are often not appreciated. are so important (for my understanding). • I have really enjoyed this session and I • Thank you. loved every minute. • I hope so too. Do get back in touch if you think we can help: we can give • Thank you so much for making these teachers training in the use of liquid concepts and ideas much clearer in my nitrogen and loan equipment and own head through the use of nitrogen. And maybe you can send your demonstrations and interactive students and their parents? resources – I hope this will improve my own teaching practices. 9 You said… • Is there a lot of competition for places to work here?! It’d be a while but I’m interested in this stuff and it would be good to know. • • Why does an energy saving bulb take a period of time to reach optimum brightness? In comparison to Std bulbs? At absolute zero are all atoms perfectly still? • • I said… • Yes, but if you complete the course you will receive a sought-after Protons for Breakfast certificate. If I were offering jobs, that would be the only qualification that I would ask for. It needs to heat up! Inside the tube a ‘spark’ is passed though mercury vapour. As the electrons ‘bash’ into mercury atoms the mercury atoms ‘ring’ like a bell and give out a characteristic spectrum – you saw the strong lines in the spectrum using the glasses. Also the atoms emit ultra violet light, which causes a coating on the inside of the tube to fluoresce and give off visible light. The brightness of the light given off depends on the density of the mercury vapour – the more atoms of mercury the brighter the light. Mercury is a liquid at room temperature, but evaporates to sustain a vapour above its surface. The vapour pressure varies very strongly with temperature. When a bulb is cold, the density of the vapour is low and the bulb is not very bright. As its temperature rises in use, more mercury evaporates and the vapour density increases, making more collisions and giving off more light. Prompted by your question I put a compact fluorescent bulb in the freezer (~-18 °C) over night, and then I plugged it in and measured its brightness with a light meter. As it warmed up it became 25 times brighter! Try it! But be careful not to get condensation on the bulb. Light meters are available from Maplin’s in Kingston. Yes. 10 You said… • What would happen if the atoms stop jiggling altogether i.e. reach 0 °K? Collapse? Black hole? • Is it possible? • How does light travel to us from the Sun? I know that a light wave is a disturbance in a field but what is the field made of? Is a field “made” of anything? I find it difficult to understand that you can have a field in a vacuum (it is a vacuum between use and the sun, isn’t it?) • If cosmic rays are ‘particles’ how come they are still part of the electromagnetic spectrum of ‘radiation’? Is it because radiation and particles are not entirely separate? I said… • Nothing. Absolutely nothing would happen, because nothing would move! • Sadly, No, it is not possible to cool something to absolute zero. In order to cool something, you need to put it in contact with something cooler. Then the ‘fast moving molecules’ slow down when they hit the ‘slow moving molecules’. If absolute zero is the coldest temperature possible, then it is not possible to have anything colder than absolute zero, in order to cool an object down to absolute zero. If you see what I mean. • Great question which indicates to me that you have ‘got it’. The field is not made out of atoms, and yes, it is present in a vacuum. The reason you find this difficult to understand is because it is difficult to understand. The space between the Earth and the sun is mostly empty of matter, but there is a constant stream of particles, protons and electrons, streaming away from the Sun. Even in intergalactic space, away from all stars there is around one hydrogen atom in every cubic centimetre of space. • Sorry: poor communication on my part. When the song was recorded, the nature of cosmic rays was not known. What we observe on Earth is ‘shower’ of secondary particles and a brief flash of light created when a high energy proton hits the Earth’s atmosphere. We never observe the original particle which caused the shower. It took a long time before people realised that this ‘cosmic’ radiation which pours in at us from all directions in space was not caused by super high energy gamma rays, but by particles – high energy protons. I’m sorry I can’t follow this question. In When you “froze” the balloon you’d blown one balloon was carbon dioxide that we had into what was left in the balloon – liquid? put in earlier as a solid. In the second Just to say I thought this week was balloon, I had blown in air. Air from my brilliant – even better than the previous lungs has more water and carbon dioxide two! Thank you. than normal atmospheric air. Glad you enjoyed it . 11 You said… • So glad you told me about atoms, proton and neutrons because I am just being taught about it. It has made it so much easier! • Why is it that the balloon deflated when you put it in the liquid nitrogen but the cup that you put in to pick up the liquid nitrogen didn’t do anything? I said… • It’s funny, often the first time you hear something it is strange and difficult, but the second time it is much easier. I think its important to become ‘familiar’ with ideas first before one tries to formally ‘learn them. Anyway, I am happy it helped. • Mmmm. Interesting question. Well, the balloon deflated because it was filled with gas – and when we cooled it, we slowed down the gas molecules and they could no longer push out the walls of the balloon, and the pressure of the air caused it to collapse. The key point is that the structure and size of the balloon depended on the gas pressure. • I guess that you noticed I was using a foam cup – full of bubbles. The plastic is called poly-styrene but I don’t know which gas is inside the bubbles. I think you are asking ‘Why didn’t they collapse?’ Well the gas inside them, would certainly have had its pressure lowered, but the foam structure around the bubbles is strong enough to form a rigid structure and doesn’t rely on the pressure within the bubbles to determine the shape of the cup. • From the air. First one compresses air to around 200 times • How do you its normal density – it becomes enormously hot and one harvest liquid extracts this heat and cools down the gas back to room gases? temperature. Then one expands the gas, and it cools as it • When you freeze expands and turns to a liquid – liquid air, a mixture of liquid food is it oxygen, nitrogen and argon. I think the gases are then preserved separated by distillation – they boil at different because the temperatures. molecules have slowed down? • Basically yes. The bugs in and around food – algae and bacteria – can only function well in a certain temperature range. Cooling them down slows down the rate at which they can reproduce though in general it does not actually kill them. • You weren’t there in the first half? Aaargh! Well As I wasn’t there in the first its difficult to summarise, but basically,: half, what was the experiment with the white smoke, which is o everything is made of atoms actual cold? Anything I should o atoms are constantly moving really know for the next o temperature is a measure of the speed of session? motion of the atoms Can’t there be a moment where • Not quite. I have oversimplified the dynamics of electrons with an atom. Actually it has taken a long the electrons are all in the time to figure out exactly how they orbit, but it same distance to each other turns out that they orbit in ‘shells’ at particular and the proton? distances from the nucleus, 12 You said… I said… I told you this week would make more I understood a lot more today and was sense – and also help make sense of the very interesting. The chocolate ice cream other weeks. was especially yummy! • When atoms reach absolute zero do they stop moving. • Yes. • Why do you wear pink shirts all the time. • Do I? • It was great. I loved it. • Excellent. I understood most of it! Good talk. Great! • Yes, they are fantastic substances • Amazed by the carbon dioxide and that really make one think about liquid nitrogen. extremes of temperature, and its • Thank you for a great session. effect upon matter. • You are welcome • Excellent • I really enjoyed this week. • They cost £450 and work really well on • How much are the hover crafts smooth marble or granite floors – but sadly because I would like one, to get do not work on rough surfaces or – in this to school! Up the River Thames. case – on water! • I love the idea of freezing balloons. • It is my favourite demonstration of all time. I’m getting there! Beginning to understand Excellent – takes a long time and the how everything is linked together – thanks! connections keep coming! We can’t because we live in a world full of light and go to sleep Why can’t we sense sound in the when it is ‘dark’ i.e. no light. Animals which live in the dark, such as bats or dolphins, can most certainly ‘see’ with sound. And we can way as light? create devices (called SONAR) which ‘see’ in the dark using sound. 13
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