PRACTICAL TALENT IDENTIFICATION
Rowing Ireland
PROVINCIAL CLUB COACHES
PETER SHAKESPEAR
Director of TID and Development
Rowing Canada Aviron
THREE KEY AREAS
I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID
I. PROCESS OF TESTING
I. IMPLEMENTATION
THREE KEY AREAS
I. PROCESS OF TESTING
I. IMPLEMENTATION
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00.0
43.2
26.4
09.6
52.8
36.0
19.2
02.4
45.6
28.8
12.0
55.2
38.4
21.6
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48.0
31.2
14.4
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Cambridge/Oxford
Boat Race 1829-2005
Year
80.0
75.0
70.0
65.0
Winning time
100m world record
TIME
NAME
YEAR
9.95
9.93
Jim Hines
1968
Calvin Smith
1983
9.92
Carl Lewis
1988
9.90
Leroy Burrell
1991
9.86
Carl Lewis
1991
9.85
Leroy Burrell
1994
9.84
Donovan Bailey
1996
9.79
9.77
Maurice Greene
1999
Asafa Powell
2005
9.74
Asafa Powell
2007
9.72
Usain Bolt
2008
9.69
Usain Bolt
2008
9.58
Usain Bolt
2009
100m world record
TIME
NAME
YEAR
HEIGHT
9.95
9.93
Jim Hines
1968
184
Calvin Smith
1983
186
9.92
Carl Lewis
1988
191
9.90
Leroy Burrell
1991
185
9.86
Carl Lewis
1991
191
9.85
Leroy Burrell
1994
185
9.84
Donovan Bailey
1996
183
9.79
9.77
Maurice Greene
1999
175
Asafa Powell
2005
190
9.74
Asafa Powell
2007
190
9.72
Usain Bolt
2008
196
9.69
Usain Bolt
2008
196
9.58
Usain Bolt
2009
196
WHAT IS POSSIBLE GB OLYMPIC ROWING 2012
• GB - 4 gold medals – WORLD # 1
• OVER 25% of GB 2012 Olympic rowing team
from TID non rowing sources.
Aim 10%
• 5 of the 10 rowers who won gold medals were
from TID sources
ALEX GREGORY
Olympic
champion
after 11 years
of rowing
Anna Watkins
Olympic
Champion
after 9 years of
rowing
Helen Glover
and Heather
Stanning
Olympic
Champions after
5 and 6 years of
rowing
THREE KEY AREAS
I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID
I. IMPLEMENTATION
RESEARCH FOR TESTING METHODS
• Identify extremely important criteria for World
Champion performance
• Some criteria can be easily developed -TRAIN
• Some criteria difficult to develop - TEST
• Find laboratory tests and field tests
• Test and Compare elite level
PROFILE TEST BATTERY
Field tests to provide objective information
on untrained potential
• Strength tests
•
Endurance tests
SOURCE OF TALENTED ATHLETES
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WITHIN SPORT
SCHOOLS
UNIVERSITIES
TALENT TRANSFER (other sports/activities)
• Correct Strategy for approaching athletes is
critical
HOW TO IMPLEMENT SIMPLY
• TEST 10 tallest girls and 10 tallest boys in 10
schools close to rowing club (16-17 years )
• Test battery: anthro, strength and endurance –
validate tests with best of national team
• “professional” ID and communication process
for long term PR
• Planned introduction & development
structure
LIGHTWEIGHT MEN
(18 YEAR OLD)
OPEN MEN
upper selection
standard
review minimum
standard
OPEN WOMEN
upper selection
standard
review minimum
standard
LIGHTWEIGHT
WOMEN (18 YEAR
OLD)
upper selection
standard
review minimum
standard
upper selection
standard
review minimum
standard
HEIGHT
186
193
175
180
175
183
163
170
ARMSPAN
186
193
175
180
175
183
163
170
ENDURANCE
85
90
85
90
70
80
70
80
LEG PRESS
(3)
600
780
580
750
400
525
390
50
BENCH PRESS
(3)
300
390
280
350
150
205
140
190
ARM PULL (3)
400
480
380
450
200
290
190
280
Sum of Leg
Press(3) and
1000
1260
960
1200
600
815
580
780
ANTHROPOMETRIC
Weight
86.50
89.20
86.20
88.00
79.50
101.30
84.30
78.70
68.00
93.00
83.30
87.50
80.00
82.30
80.00
79.28
95.9
88.00
80.90
82.70
104.00
104.00
84.00
81.50
84.00
75.90
84.00
118.70
(kg) Height
(cm)
>193.0
186 - 192.9
196.5
191.0
195.5
194.0
190.0
192.5
191.0
177.5
188.0
186.5
195.5
193.0
195.5
187.5
195.5
190.5
196.0
195.0
189.0
187.0
185.0
185.0
187.0
190.0
187.0
188.5
193.5
188.0
STRENGTH - DYNO MACHINE
Armspan
(cm)
>193.0
186 - 192.9
198.2
198.0
200.0
204.0
193.5
199.0
198.0
185.5
189.0
191.5
202.5
201.0
197.0
189.0
197.0
193.5
197.0
195.0
196.0
201.0
188.0
188.0
197.5
196.0
197.5
189.0
201.0
187.0
Leg press
(nm)
>800
700-799.9
909
918
812
801
855
822
821
633
721
964
915
833
690
606
690
695
875
889
769
696
697
697
671
831
671
756
697
888
Arm press
(nm)
>400
300-399.9
409
383
341
486
377
473
354
302
268
428
490
445
323
320
323
365
460
466
332
361
430
430
313
492
313
333
281
440
Arm pull
(nm)
>500
450-499.9
612
605
497
486
533
549
502
433
326
561
578
589
355
390
355
410
591
562
474
573
420
420
424
585
424
387
367
552
ENDURANCE
ARM LEG
BIKE
Arm/Leg
LP+AP (nm)
(rpm)
>1300
>90
1150-1300
85-89
1521
93
1523
92
1309
92
1287
91
1388
90
1371
90
1323
89
1066
89
1047
88
1525
88
1493
88
1422
88
1045
88
996
88
1045
88
1105
87
1466
87
1451
87
1243
87
1269
87
1117
87
1117
87
1095
86
1416
86
1095
86
1143
86
1064
86
1440
86
THREE KEY AREAS
I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID
I. PROCESS OF TESTING
OBLIGATIONS
• Ensure club can provide a suitable
environment (coaches, support and small boat
equipment)
• Provide an enthusiastic coach
• Have a planned induction procedure
• Have a planned development procedure
(different from traditional approach)
• Keep athletes clear of club politics
TIME FRAMES
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10,000 hours to peak performance – average
Accelerate training based on athlete interest
Start with 12- 15 hours per week
Individual variation is huge
Ensure staged, controlled development
Encourage “failure – then overcome”
mentality
EXPECTATIONS
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NEW Athletes have no support system
NEW ATHLETES are perfect –no faults
Errorless learning (extensive feedback)
Exceed traditional expectations
Develop FERRARI MENTALITY
Role of TID in the National sport
organization
Club sport
CLUB SPORT
PROBLEMS
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Junior performance = coach enthusiasm
TRADITIONAL approaches inefficient
Change causes problems
Development pathway - labour intensive
Administration - supportive
Non-believers - negative/jealous?
Good athletes - very achievement oriented
TESTING PSYCHOLOGICAL and
TACTICAL FACTORS
• Essential for all sports but at different levels of
importance
• Training methods create psychological
development
2 BASIC PRINCIPLES OF TID to World
Champion
• IDENTIFICATION – essential and must be very
high quality. A critical 5% of Journey
• DEVELOPMENT - At 95% the major part of the
journey. Must follow guidelines that are
different from most traditional pathways.
Includes physical, mental, technical, social etc.
ROLE OF TALENT AND TRAINING
• “TRAINING WILL BEAT TALENT UNTIL TALENT
TRAINS”
• TID will never replace the role of clubs in
providing the bulk of the top competitors
• TID can provide 10% of the very best athletes
Stages of TID and Development
TID = building solid foundations
5%
Development= building on
foundations 95%
SUMMARY
• IDENTIFICATION OF TALENT IS
SIMPLE
• STRONG GUIDELINES REQUIRED
• EVERY CLUB CAN BENEFIT BY SMART –
TRACKING TALENT
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DEVELOPMENT
DEVELOPMENT
•
Involves physical, mental, tactical, technical,
social and educational improvement
•
TID athletes have no faults (and no good
habits either) – consequently rapid, quality
learning is possible
•
Goal is later high quality performance – not
early mediocre performance
TID DEVELOPMENT difference from
normal development.
“FERRARI MENTALITY”
• TID athletes have no perceived limitations
• Talented athletes require special
development
• Talented athletes require special coaching
• Talented athletes require special
expectations
TECHNICAL /SKILL DEVELOPMENT
• “Technique limited training” to maximise
rapid but accurate technical development
• Intense coaching (1:1 ideal)
• Continuous feedback
• Coach demands change from every feedback
(improvement mentality)
• Eliminate technical limit on later performance
SKILL DEVELOPMENT - theory
• “Deliberate Practice” from K Anders Ericsson
• Errorless learning
• Challenge concept of “natural talent”!
1:10,000 and 10,000 hours theories
• World Champion potential is rare
• Quality of selection and development is
critical
• Volume of quality training is essential
PSYCHOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT
• There is no perfect test, but can be trained
• Create a very friendly but competitive training
environment
• Praise the effort not the talent – Carol Dweck
• Set goals high to experience failure then set
strategy to fight and overcome the failure
• Create ownership of performance
• Create obsessive trainers
QUALITY CONTROL AND MOTIVATION
- MONTHLY CAMPS
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Create competitive environment
Continuous improvement
Regular goal setting
Introduce crew boats
Create basis for motivation = achievement
WHY TALENT IDENTIFICATION AND
DEVELOPMENT ?
• Funding is linked to Olympic Gold Medal
performance
• Performances are always improving each
Olympiad
• Plan for future performance: TID can identify
and nurture talent for the future
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