LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY
Centennial History Project Interview:
Alex Chaves, 1986
January 28, 2011
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Alex Chaves Interview
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MR. JUSTIN VELEZ:
MR. ALEX CHAVES:
Good, it's working.
Okay.
MR. VELEZ: [Off mic conversation]. What I'm going to do, we have
a series of questions that we put out. We're going to try to
cover; I may adjust them ever so slightly just based on how
the interview process goes. But if there's anything that if
you like we could send you the transcript afterwards so you
can read it if there's anything you felt like maybe you said
that you didn't want to say or whatever and that you can
change.
MR. CHAVES:
All right.
MR. VELEZ: That's one thing to know. So if you, real quick, just
for the sake of - - can hear you but just say who you are and
the year you attended, just for recordkeeping purposes.
MR. CHAVES:
I am Alex Martin Chaves, class of 1986.
MR. VELEZ: I'd like to start with your decision to attend LMU;
can you tell me why you decided to attend LMU and how your
family felt about your decision.
MR. CHAVES: I really didn't decide to attend LMU; I went to St.
John Moscow [phonetic] which is a Jesuit--a high school in
Bellflower [phonetic] and my counselor came to me toward the
end of--I guess it was my junior year at the time and said,
"Where do you plan on attending to college?" And at the time
I said I hadn't really thought about it. And he said--his
name was Mr. Cross. I forget his first name but anyway Mr.
Cross. And he said, "I think I know the perfect university
for you. I've watched you," and so on. And he was a friend.
So the only university I applied to was here. My parents
were very happy because I chose to go to college; they
weren't forcing it on me which was unusual. But my mom and
my dad were both very happy because it was a Catholic school.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. I mean that kind of goes in the second
question: was the fact that Loyola was a Catholic Jesuit
institution important to your decision to attend?
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MR. CHAVES: It wasn't important but it sure--because there was no
decision; I was only going to one university, but the fact
that it was a Catholic university was definitely a plus.
MR. VELEZ: Okay cool, very cool. And so how do think your
education differed from your peers at non-Catholic
institutions during the mid-1980s?
MR. CHAVES: The only think I can compare to, it appears, and it
appears to me that I have made great friends and connections,
and I've stayed in touch with them at LMU, whereas other
universities such as UCLA--USC's not quite so bad but they
haven't been able to keep in contact or keep in touch. And I
don't know if it's the fact that they're not the Catholic
universities or the fact that they're just so large.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. Do you think that it being a Catholic
university at all impacted formationally during your times at
LMU or was that not so much a factor?
MR. CHAVES:
I think it probably just enforced it.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. So as a student in the mid-1980s how would you
characterize the Catholic influence of Loyola? Do you think
it was pervasive, do you think it was important to students?
MR. CHAVES: It was important to me, or [phonetic] important to
students. I know it made me much more involved in the
Catholic Church. I know during Lent a group of us--I joined
a fraternity called Sigma Pi at the time; we were the
founding fathers, and during Lent we would go to mass every
day, things like that.
So there was this common denominator that we had with
religion. So it was something that instilled a deep interest
in Catholicism for me.
MR. VELEZ: So obviously you know the three principles of LMU
include a commitment to social justice, academic excellence
and the education of the whole person. Were these principles
important to you before arriving to LMU and did these
principles become more important over time?
MR. CHAVES: I wasn't aware that was Loyola's commitment at the
time. Like I said it was kind of funny because I got
accepted to Loyola, to LMU and missed orientation, didn't
even know. I happened to be in San Francisco and actually I
don’t' remember exactly but I think my sister said you have
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to go to school next--whatever it was.
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MR. CHAVES: Actually one of my friends called me and says, "You
know, there's orientation day." So I actually flew down from
San Francisco, packed my bags and came here because my
family--everyone was up there. So that tells you I was kind
of not in tune. So it was the first time I had ever been to
the university as well because I didn’t visit it or anything.
MR. VELEZ:
Was that weird to like just--?
MR. CHAVES: [Interposing] Yeah it was,
way my life has been. I've always
groundbreaker in our family and it
guess it was unusual but it wasn't
but it's kind of been the
been kind of the
wasn't unusual--well I
unheard of.
MR. VELEZ: And do you think these values that are mentioned, a
commitment to social justice, academic excellence and
education of the whole person, do you think they impacted you
at LMU or were they something that you were aware of at LMU?
MR. CHAVES: I don't think they--I was aware of them when I was
here at LMU but I definitely noticed the impact of them after
I've left LMU. And those are three, three very important
traits that I follow to this day.
MR. VELEZ: Okay, cool. So you were a business major, I believe,
and can you tell me about the degree and the department a
little bit?
MR. CHAVES: The degree was business administration and it was
very interesting. At the time I was never really connected
to my academics here. We had a family business, so I was
leaving on Friday afternoons and working in San Francisco.
Our family's in the parking lot business and we got a very
large parking lot which entailed taking a lot of time. And
the kids--when I say kids, I have a brother and a sister
younger and my parents.
So the experience that I had her, and I can best say it, and
it's probably not what the university wants to hear; it was a
place where I could grow up and meet people and kind of see
how the world functions. But as for academics it wasn't so
important to me as it was for me to grow up and kind of
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mature; that's really what it was for me.
MR. VELEZ: How did that experience of having to commute a lot and
working, like how would you say that impacted your experience
overall?
MR. CHAVES: My experience overall was great here. Like I said, I
made very good friends and I probably keep--I'm very close to
at least a dozen and probably keep in touch with at least 24
friends to this day. So the experience here was wonderful;
the fraternity was a wonderful experience, I was good friends
with Father Mairfield [phonetic] at the time, and--well of
course he's past but I was very good friends with him. So I
connected enough to the university where I had a very good
experience. And I don't know if you know now, I am a
trustee. I started off on the Mexican-American Alumni
Association.
MR. VELEZ: I was actually going to ask because I'm all-student.
And you look familiar, and so I was trying to remember if you
were involved with MAAA [phonetic].
MR. CHAVES: Yeah, I've been involved with MAAA for--I think it's
10 or 12 years; I've been the president for 10.
MR. VELEZ:
MR. CHAVES:
MR. VELEZ:
Okay.
Do you mind if we talk about that a little bit?
Sure.
Okay, yeah.
MR. CHAVES: So I've been on that for 10 years and I was a regent
for 9 years and now I've been a trustee for going on--this is
my first year.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. What would you say are some of the biggest
changes you've seen in the MAAA program since you've been
involved?
MR. CHAVES: Well when I first took it over the MAAA program was
only offering--I believe their scholarship was about $1,000,
maybe $1,200 and we were only giving it to 20 or 30 students.
So the fundraising was very weak at best but it was still
there.
MR. VELEZ: The good thing was that there was a strong foundation
and there was enough people to transform it. I got put on
the board; our whole board entirely changed so there was 8 or
10 people on the board. Within the first two or three years
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we at least changed 80 % of it. Then we came up with--that
was under Jose Legaspe [phonetic] was the president of the
time for two years and then I became president. And what we
did was we changed it to the fact that we got--we started
raising more money and started giving more scholarships to
her [phonetic] now. And then what was real key was when
Father Ladden [phonetic had first come here he agreed to a
two for one match, which was for every dollar we raised the
university would match it for two for one for scholarship
purposes.
So he allotted us; it took a long time to get it; we got it.
USC had had it at that time and that really made us
effective. So on average even in this capital campaign we
had an original goal of about a million six to raise during
the capital campaign. We surpassed that. We have raised
already 2.8, 2.6, 2.8, and we're on our goal to reach $4
million.
So what that does is it gives students up to $6,000, which is
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MR. CHAVES: --more quality students, not necessarily quality or
not quality but good students and they get to stay here.
MR. VELEZ: And it gives them a lot of opportunities. Like I know
for me personally, like I've had the most scholarships since
freshman year and so it's been something that like otherwise
might--like my family can really pay for. I've gotten a lot
of other scholarships from the university and from other
outside sources, but I've been really privileged I think in
that regard for me personally because I'm like, "That's
$6,000 every year and I don't know where I would get that
money otherwise, and so--[crosstalk].
MR. CHAVES: It was supposed to be a gap because it was supposed
to just supplement other financing. But what the gap does,
because a lot of our students and probably you are one of the
same, you're already working 10 or 15 hours a week. So in
other words if you had to work to raise that last $24,000
over four years or $6,000 a year you would have to work an
additional 10 or 15 hours a week possibly.
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MR. VELEZ:
well.
And they also limit how many you can work here as
MR. CHAVES: So it affects, yeah, here, but I'm saying outside.
It depends on your experience here at LMU. So if it can
loosen up 20, 30 hours of your time not having to raise it
and not having to pay it back then your experience here can
be completely different.
MR. VELEZ: Yeah. I think it's really cool because I went to the
last dinner and you guy talked about how now that they
guarantee the four year I thought that was really impressive.
Because I remember re-applying every year and just hoping I
could get in, like "Am I going to get it this year, am I
going to get it this year?" And it's so cool to have that
security.
MR. CHAVES: It's funny you say that because after years we always
try and make it better, and after three, four years we kept
feeling that anxiety from the students because they say,
"Well, okay, I got it this year," and they would start
calling months before saying, "When do I apply? I really
need it, I count on it," and things like that. So we went to
the university and the university was very--one thing I've
got to say is that the university has been very open and very
flexible to our request. Because of that and because of
Father Ladden's support and now David Bircham's [phonetic]
support I think the MAAA can go to whole other level.
Ultimately the deal is to--we give about 100 scholarships a
year, 70 to 100 scholarships, and we'd like to double that if
we could.
MR. VELEZ: That's really cool. I'm going to go on to some other
questions because I don't want to get too sidetracked, but
we're going to segue a little bit into talking about the
physical campus. Can you describe the physical campus during
the early 1980s and do you have any specific recollections
either about dorm life, classroom, about any buildings maybe
that were constructed at that time?
MR. CHAVES: Dorm life is dorm life. I mean I was in Rosencrantz
[phonetic] for two years, first floor, second room in. So
our friends' dorm and I faced Desmond, which was one of the
things in that courtyard. So I haven't been in them since
but they appear to be the same thing; I don't see any much
different.
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My daughter is here now; she is a sophomore and she--I forget
what the name of the building is, McKay [phonetic] or one of
them--not McKay, the new one, McCarthy. It's quite a change,
and I think it's great that LMU has decided that. I do
remember going to Loyola apartments and finding them to be
kind of musty and just not a fun place to be but it was a
place to live. I didn't stay in there.
So overall the housing I think is spectacular. I think the
university turned into a university when they got U-Haul,
which was shortly after I had graduated. At the time, when I
was here Gershton [phonetic] pavilion was being built, and a
few of the facilities were being built because of the '84
Olympics. So there was a transition--not transition, what
would you say, there was a--facilities wouldn't have been
important. So everyone--they were trying to upgrade as many
of the facilities as they could, but it wasn't until I left
did we really see the explosion of the new buildings and
such. I think it's spectacular. I think everything the
university's been doing and been able to raise money for, the
library and the Vlanderoff [phonetic] center now--the new
Vlanderoff [phonetic] center remodeled.
MR. VELEZ:
I went there recently, I was like, "Wow."
MR. CHAVES: One thing I've got to say is that nothing is ever
done here halfways, I mean it's first class or they don't do
it, which is spectacular to do it that way.
MR. VELEZ:
MR. CHAVES:
MR. VELEZ:
So the Olympics; were you hear for the Olympics?
Yes.
What was that like?
MR. CHAVES: They had--I only went to a couple things. I think
they had--I don't know if it was archery but I remember they
had weightlifting here, I believe. What was kind of neat in
those years is that we had our own LMU Olympics. So we had
an intramural team but then we had an Olympics. So we kind
of got involved in it.
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MR. CHAVES: So it was a nice thing; it was interesting because
you'd kind of connect with it, you know what I mean? So this
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was one of the facilities used in the Olympics. I don’t'
know what events other than weightlifting; I know it was
weightlifting for sure, and it was in the Gershton pavilion
at the time, if I remember correctly. But it was exciting.
MR. VELEZ: Very cool. I also know, from what it says here, it
says you've served on the facilities committee since
graduation?
MR. CHAVES: No, I have been on the facilities committee for going
on about a year now.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. Can you tell me a little bit about that
experience and maybe what are some of the goals of the
committee, long-term plans?
MR. CHAVES: The facilities committee is really neat because it
tells you what's going on with the current facilities, which
is friendly, green, you know, what's going on with the green
initiatives here. It's always nice to see the steps we've
taken towards becoming greener. The buildings here have
become, I don't know how they rate them, four--there's
different numbers, but there's a lot of buildings-MR. VELEZ:
It's like platinum--
MR. CHAVES: Right. So that's been kind of neat. It was very
interesting to go through the whole process of the ten-year
plan so that was nice; I was part of that. It just kind of
gives you--not only do I sit on the facilities committee I
now sit on the audit committee for the trustees; those are
the two committees I sit on.
It's kind of neat to see it, for me it full circles between
facilities, which means what's going on on the grounds at
LMU, the trustees, which kind of gives you your 60 or 70
member, 50 members that are there, you get their fill, and
then the audit committee, you see how the money's being
raised or how it's being spent and it's pretty neat. So I
like all those--those are three nice committees to be on.
MR. VELEZ:
MR. CHAVES:
That's really cool, it gives you a real nice scope ofYeah, it circles the whole thing.
MR. VELEZ: How would you describe the student population at LMU
when you attended?
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MR. CHAVES: Just kids; I don't remember anything inordinary
around babatam [phonetic]. I went from an all boys' school,
which was kind of interesting, to a school that had girls.
MR. VELEZ:
Yeah, me too.
MR. CHAVES: So it wasn't like it was bad or good; it was a
change. Although we had a dress code it wasn't uniforms, so
it was kind of interesting to see kids wearing, or peers
wearing flip flops and shorts on a rainy day when you would
never see that anywhere else. So the makeup of the students
were nice. I found them to be very friendly, very family
oriented. And I think it kind of goes back to the Catholic
initiative, that you had something in common, you had a
religion in common and you're respectful of each other, kind
of what religion teachers us.
MR. VELEZ: Do you remember--I don't know if it will [crosstalk]
to you, but if the campus was ethnically and racially diverse
at the time?
MR. CHAVES: I don't remember it to be that ethnically diverse at
the time. Being Hispanic I never felt like I was an
outsider; that wasn't the case. But thinking about it I
remember it being predominantly white, but today it's
probably 70 % white. I think we've made huge steps; I know
MAAA has made huge steps. When I was here--actually I just
had a MAAA meeting this morning. I didn't realize in the
early Eighties there was only about 5 % or 10 %, 5 % to 7 %
Hispanics and now we're up to 21 %.
MR. VELEZ:
Oh wow.
MR. CHAVES: That's huge. And that's huge because the population
has grown too. When I was here I think it was 3,500 students
and now it's 5,700, or that's the cap. So in order to get
those numbers as high as we got them, or have them now, I
think it was--I don't know about the African-American
community, I don't know about the Asian community, but I know
from being on the MAAA board I've seen it.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. And these are kind of related to this--do you
have any, or do you remember any specific conflicts or issues
relating to race or ethnicity while you were here?
MR. CHAVES: No. Never have. Never experienced it here or in
high school. It's always an open arms university.
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MR. VELEZ: So do you feel that LMU as an institution has done
well in its dealing of diversity and addressing diversity?
MR. CHAVES: Yes I do. The most important thing is I think
they're aware of it; they're conscious of it. So they're
trying to do something about it.
MR. VELEZ:
Do you think they're also--
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MR. VELEZ:
--interested in the student body as well?
MR. CHAVES: I think so, to the degree that they can. Just
because you so to speak open your doors doesn't mean you're
going to get people to come in, right? So people have to
have an affinity to this, a university. But yeah, I think
it's definitely an open university when it comes to that.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. This is a little bit different set of
questions. I know you said you were part of the Sigma Pi
fraternity and you were part of the founders, so can you tell
me about the experience at the fraternity and do you think
Catholicism impacted the nature of the Greek system at LMU?
MR. CHAVES: That's the one thing I think the university never
embraced, and I don't know if they do now. We don't have a
fraternity row. I remember it kind of being a, for lack of
better words, transient almost--it seemed like the fraternity
was transient. We didn't have a house, we would go to
someone else's apartment and that would be your house where
you had your meetings and things like that. So I don't know
how they accepted them.
Now I understand my fraternity's not even on campus now; they
got kicked off years ago for some reason; I don’t know what
it is. So I don’t know how that affected it. The second
question, you said?
MR. VELEZ: Do you think Catholicism impacted the nature of the
Greek system at LMU?
MR. CHAVES: No, not at all. I think the Greek system is what it
is. Because I was bid by three or four of the different
fraternities and you found your niche within one of those
very easily. You knew what type you were at that time.
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MR. VELEZ: I think it's pretty much the same now. How would you
say that your degree and education at LMU impacted your life
choices?
MR. CHAVES: My experiences and my relationships, and my
experiences here with meeting great people and professors and
Father Mairfield and it's continued, and the relationships
that I've made have been great. I find LMU to be a home away
from home, and I've tried to get and I have been getting more
people involved that either I've graduated with or they went
to school here and they seem to find the same way.
We use the word in MAAA and they kind of use it here at LMU
too is it's kind of a family; MAAA is a smaller family of the
LMU family, and LMU, as far as I'm concerned is a big family.
I don’t feel uneasy calling anyone who's graduated from LMU
and having a relationship with them and a conversation
immediately. No matter whether you graduated or not, the
affinity of being the same university has made it very easy
to talk to anyone from there. So it's like a big fraternity,
as far as I'm concerned.
MR. VELEZ: Okay. This is kind of related, that obviously you've
maintained a very active relationship with LMU over your time
since you've graduated, so what has prompted you to maintain
such a close affiliation through your trustees, the different
committees you're involved with?
MR. CHAVES: I think to be successful in life and a rounded
person, which kind of goes back to the mission statement of
LMU, is that you have to have a social component, you have to
have a political component to your life and you have to have
an education component to your life in addition to your own
self and to your family. To me the education part of it, LMU
fills that void--not void, but fills that portion of my goal
going forward.
MR. VELEZ: Cool. I understand that you've also received the 2006
LMU Distinguished Alumni Award; can you tell me about the
award and its significance to you?
MR. CHAVES: The award, it was very flattering. In order to have
LMU and whoever sits on that board at the time--I don't know
who did--to put forward X amount of names and then for my
name to come out of one of three--there was only three that
year--was huge. The one thing I thought was very unique
about it was it was something that happened, what I believe,
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to be very young in my life. So I was, I think, 40 years
old. So to be recognized that early as a distinguished
alumni was flattering, and it only goes to reinforce that the
relationships I have here at LMU, people do appreciate what I
do and what I do give back to it. And I don't give back for
those reasons; I give back because I enjoy it, and I see the
results of my giveback to LMU.
MR. VELEZ: What do you think are the most significant changes at
LMU in the last 20 years?
MR. CHAVES:
I would have to think their--
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MR. CHAVES: --biggest change is the makeup in the facilities on
their campus. They're absolutely beautiful. I don't
believe--I send, or recommend at least a dozen students a
year to come here. They've heard of Loyola, they know it's
Catholic, they know it's by the beach and all that stuff, but
it's hard to get them to really come over here. And I would
say 90 % of the time the kids that do come and actually come
here, they come back with the feeling, "Boy, that--it feels
like home; it's a great feeling. It's somewhere that looks
like I've been before." I think that's the greatest thing,
and I think it's the buildings and the makeup of the people
and the makeup of the faculty and the makeup of the top brass
from Father Ladden at the time before that from David
Bircham; I think David Bircham is going to take it to a whole
new level.
MR. VELEZ: We're looking forward to his presidency; I think it's
a really good thing for our university. I've had a couple
chances to meet him and he's such a great guy and really
knows his stuff and really knows the university inside and
out.
MR. CHAVES: He knows it inside out and he's a workaholic; he is a
workaholic. That guy is tireless.
MR. VELEZ: That's what we need right now.
you like to see in the future?
So what changes would
MR. CHAVES: I don't know what the challenges are of this
university from a university standpoint. I'm involved in it
enough, but they run the ins and outs of it and I kind of go
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with their trust or their guidance. I think the things
they're doing now, the ten-year plan was huge for new
facilities, so they got that out of the way.
Diversification--all the tools are there to be diversified,
so I guess those are in place; I guess they can kind of
support them a little bit more.
The one thing I guess, like anything, is I really feel sad--I
was fortunate enough that I didn't come out of school with
debt. I think that's one of the greatest challenges of the
school is for students to come out of school with debt. This
doesn't have anything to do with the university, it actually
has to do with politics in Washington, is I still don't
understand why college tuition is not deductible. I think
it's very unfair for the United States to have ask our kids
to go to school or have their parents pay for it and pay for
it in after-tax dollars because it's a benefit of the United
States for kids to go to school.
But other than that I think we're on the right track; I think
everything is--I can't see anything going wrong right now.
MR. VELEZ: Good. What changes or concerns, if any, do you have
about anything in particular about the university?
MR. CHAVES: The only concern I did have was when Father Ladden
left, or was leaving. That concern went away completely when
David Bircham took over.
There is--it's not a concern, actually, I'm kind of excited
about it, is I understand--I'm not absolutely sure but I
think in the next five years 80 % of the board of trustees is
going to turn over. To me that's exciting because it's new
blood. I know a lot of the trustees when I got there had
been trustees for--I was a regent for nine years, ten years,
so it's going to be--I think it's exciting that you have a
new president and we're going to have the makeup of a new
board, so after this capital campaign is done in 18 months or
so I think it's going to be interesting to see the new board
makeup and who we are able to recruit, and I think that'll
really send the--it could send LMU to a whole new level.
MR. VELEZ: What would you say are your fondest memories, or
memories from undergraduate years at LMU?
MR. CHAVES: I think the camaraderie with my fellow students and
my fraternity, whether it be the fraternity dances or
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intramurals or when we had the Olympics here--they had an
Olympic games here as well. I played in the racquetball
tournament and there was one other one--I think it was just
racquetball, actually. All those--just every interaction.
Scarpolino's [phonetic]--I don't even know if Scarpolino's
Pizza's around still.
MR. VELEZ:
Yeah, it's just they have a different name now.
MR. CHAVES: Yeah, there's all these--just different things like
that, those are all--the exchanges with the sororities, the
exchanges with UCLA and USC sororities and fraternities; just
everything--everything was great.
MR. VELEZ: So is there anything else that you've like to discuss,
anything in particular that maybe you felt we didn't address
that you'd like to go over?
MR. CHAVES:
it.
MR. VELEZ:
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No, no I don't think so; I think that's pretty much
Okay well thank you very much; it was a real pleasure-
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MR. CHAVES:
MR. VELEZ:
--interviewing you.
You're welcome.
I'm glad we were finally able to get this interview--
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MR. CHAVES:
--completed.
Great.
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