www.InsideRadio.com Page 1 of 3 “ Personalities INSIDE RADIO ” Monday, July 28, 2008 Sponsored by This Golden-Throat Chap’s The Platinum Standard by Mike Kinosian, Personality Editor Richly robust and resplendent tones reflective of one of the industry’s most renowned morning communicators still forcefully resonate. Also audible is a slight tinge of his regional accent, although it’s not from the locale with which he’s been famously associated for the last half-century. As synonymous with Dallas as J.R. Ewing and South Fork is the real deal Ron Chapman albeit the spice flavoring his vocal quality is from the Bay State rather than “Big D.” We Now Conclude Our Broadcast Day These days the quintessential wakeup talent does double-duty as consultant/interim PD of Citadel/Dallas’ “Platinum 96.7” (KPMZ, formerly Country “Twister” KTYS) and as Paul Harvey’s principal morning fill-in. “I’m working harder than I have in a long time,” Chapman remarks. “When things are running smoothly [at KPMZ], I’ll step back and let the kids [take it over].” As far as his own very early youth was concerned, Chapman would fall asleep at night listening to WBZ/Boston in his parents’ screened-in back porch. One evening, a personality on the legendary Beantown station was discussing the moon and Chapman just had to roll over for a first-hand glimpse. “From that moment, he and I were slapped together like superglue,” Chapman comments. “The connection between us was astonishing.” Several years later, WHAV/Haverhill, MA (which also later produced ABC-TV workhorse personality Tom Bergeron) signedon and Chapman made sure he was up at 3am to hear the station’s test tones. “It was a big thing for me that our town was getting a radio station,” he notes with great animation. “One of my earliest Christmas presents from my parents was an Emerson radio, the size of a woman’s purse. I lived for that thing. When I finished saying my prayers at night, I’d [recite from memory WHAV’s] sign-off [announcement]. That’s how much of a radio kid I was. I hung around [WHAV] and did whatever I could. When I graduated from high school [in 1953], WHAV offered me a fulltime job.” Ultimately the hometown operation named Chapman its morning man before he segued to WNHC/New Haven, CT, where he earned INSIDE RADIO Personality Interviews by MIKE KINOSIAN $82.50 a week as the 6-10pm talent. “When I was offered $175 a week [to go to KLIF/Dallas in November 1959 where he became Irving Harrigan],” Chapman cheerfully recounts “I packed my Nash Rambler and got out of Dodge.” Clobbering Clubber Working in Boston – not Dallas – however was Chapman’s foremost career objective. After all, the Hub is a mere 35 miles from his home and the only market he cared about. “[Superlative three-decade WBZ wakeup talent] Carl de Suze was always happy, positive and up,” Chapman evaluates. “When I got to Dallas, I looked around and thought this was the place I was going to be Carl de Suze. I asked Jack Woods [PM driver `Charlie Brown’] if he wanted to do the morning show with me.” Thus was born “Charlie & Harrigan” and the pairing lasted until January 1969 when Chapman was tapped to become KVIL/Dallas’ PD/MD/Promotion Director/morning personality. “Honestly and truthfully, it was running and working scared every day,” he comments of the more than 30-year tenure at the outlet he made an Adult Contemporary cornerstone. “I have an inbred fear of failure - especially in front of my contemporaries. We knew we were King Kong in Dallas but the trick is holding onto it - that’s tougher. For every Rocky, there’s a Clubber Lang. I’d teach my guys Clubber wanted their job. There were good stations in Dallas and depending on the era, some of them clobbered us.” Largely under Chapman’s direction though, KVIL became a largerthan-life full-service powerhouse with major contests and big-prize giveaways among its key programming components. Money For Nothing Nothing received more attention than the time Chapman encouraged listeners to go their checkbooks and send KVIL’s Fun & Games department a $20 check. An on-air explanation was never given about what – if anything - the station would offer in return for those complying. Once ownership’s then corporate honcho Mel Karmazin was satisfied this unique money request wasn’t an FCC violation, it was cleared to air. Even Chapman was shocked at what followed. “I expected a few — Sponsored by ASCAP www.InsideRadio.com INTERVIEW hundred dollars from hardcore P1s,” he states. “On the first day, we had something like $133,000 and got just as much the next day. I wanted Huey Lewis & The News to do a concert [but] no [Dallas venue] would be big enough to hold everybody [plus one guest] who sent a check.” Listeners apparently thought it was a new way to enter a contest but Chapman pulled the promo and investigated how the money could benefit local charities. “If someone wanted their check back, [we’d return it].” Remarkably only 2% did so, enabling KVIL to allocate $100,000 of the new-found funds to the Salvation Army-run medical clinic across from Parkland Hospital; it also bought a refrigerated truck for a local food bank. “We did several things around town that still exist today,” Chapman proudly reports. “It was KVIL’s biggest promotion and didn’t cost a penny.” Heart-Stopping Proposal In subsequent years, Chapman’s morning show demos skewed considerably older than the rest of the station and he realized his time on KVIL was drawing to a close so he switched to co-owned Oldies KLUV in a similar capacity. “KVIL took a header and KLUV jumped dramatically,” he notes. “A station at 96.7 – the [frequency] I’m now overseeing – called `Memories’ [KMEO] played romantic love songs that [were no longer on KVIL or KLUV’s playlists]. It didn’t hit many homers but had a few groundrule doubles. I thought it could have had a pretty good piece of the pie [but] pulled the plug too soon.” Some could selfishly argue Chapman was also guilty of being too quick on the trigger when, in June 2005, he exited KLUV after an approximately five-year wakeup stint. “My wife and I bought - and still own - a condo on a cruise ship,” he explains. “We’ve been around the world several times. We got on that ship and took off. Suddenly we weren’t near anything akin to radio. We broke away and became international navigators - it was very nice.” Retirement was short lived though following a meeting Chapman had with Citadel Chairman/CEO Farid Suleman ostensibly about doing a women-geared late-night ABC Radio talk show. “His premise was most [nighttime] network shows are for guys,” — Sponsored by ASCAP Monday, July 28, 2008 Page 2 of 3 Chapman remarks. “He wanted me to talk to women like I did in the morning. Very honestly, I had some interest.” Next step was a New York City charity dinner (for Autism Speaks) where Suleman and several other ABC Radio executives shared a table with Chapman. “They kept changing chairs to talk to me,” Chapman quizzically notes. “When it was over, I asked Farid what that was all about. He said he wasn’t happy with all [the Paul Harvey fill-ins]. My heart just about stopped. He asked if I would be comfortable substituting for Paul. I said if I could be put in that chair, I would own it because I’m such a fan. I know every move [Paul Harvey] has ever made.” Compensated Storyteller Initially given two days a week in early-April and then three, Chapman has been on the air pinch-hitting for Harvey ever since proclaiming, “It’s great fun to find kickers and get the timing down. I’m not trying to impersonate Paul but will do his shtick when there’s a really stupid story. I hope I’m paying tribute to him and not ripping him off. Farid told me I’m the best storyteller he’s ever known. That’s what Paul does – he tells stories. As far as I’m concerned, Paul Harvey’s `the man.’ He invented so much in terms of timing, inflection and use of dead air.” Four weeks into his dream assignment, Chapman received a note from Human Resources. “I was asked what [my salary was] and said it had never come up. I was just honored to be doing it. I’m now getting paid for that – but not for `Platinum.’ I want to make it a success for Farid. I owe him that.” Former presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee have had on-air tryouts and Paul Harvey Jr. occasionally fills in for his dad, still brokenhearted over the loss of wife Angel and recovering from pneumonia and earlier cataract surgery. In an on-air visit less than two weeks ago (7-17), Harvey informed Chapman he’d slowly ease back into his routine. It proved to be an emotional chat for listeners, Harvey and Chapman – who’d never previously interacted with his idol. “The 15-minute show is an energy marathon,” reports Chapman. “When that [one] is under your belt, it’s time to sit down. I can’t imagine how Paul got up at 3am all those years to do the early-morning show, the 15-minute INSIDE RADIO Personality Interviews by MIKE KINOSIAN www.InsideRadio.com INTERVIEW show and then record `The Rest of the Story.’ That is an amazing energy drain. I’m honored to be doing this, and if asked, will keep doing it indefinitely.” Departed Dr. Fever Patterned after Citadel/Minneapolis’ Classic Hits “Love 105” trimulcast (on WGVX, WGVY & WGVZ), “Platinum” debuted four weeks ago (6-30) and Chapman braced himself for negative reaction from “Twister” partisans. “There were [several] hang-ups when we said this was the new reality but there have been far more positives,” he explains. “People stop me on the street to say they like my new station.” Daily Metroplex newspapers “The Morning News” and “Star Telegram” did features on Platinum’s debut, as did ABC affiliate KFAA-TV. “We were very lucky with [that exposure],” Chapman acknowledges. “Most blogs will drive you crazy but the majority of them have been very favorable to us.” Since KLUV already exists in Dallas, using the “Love” moniker on the former “Twister” was out-of-the-question. Other handles were debated with Chapman ready to implement “Cherish” but points out, “Several people in the chain-of-command said no man would put a [button on his car radio] to a station called `Cherish.’ I thought about `Gold,’ `Solid Gold’ and `Platinum’ which is better than gold. I bounced it around and found no negatives. It seems to have been very well accepted. No one here ever heard it used before so we may be pioneers in that regard.” Even though Chapman’s KVIL tenure outnumbered his time at KLUV by better than six to one, there’s actually more emotion involved for him competing against the Oldies outlet. “There are some people there I really like,” he states. “If `Platinum’ is successful, KLUV will probably be the station [most affected]. We’re trying to see if we can make a niche for ourselves [however] we aren’t really competing against [another station]. We’re playing older oldies because KLUV has moved to a more contemporary Oldies format. It has dropped many songs people [still] want to hear.” Finding someone with a market pedigree even approaching that of Chapman’s would be close to impossible yet he adamantly maintains he hasn’t given any thought of joining Platinum’s on-air lineup. “Doing it takes protracted energy that requires a certain age and conditioning,” says the 70-ish Chapman; KVIL alum Larry Dixon handles mornings. “Johnny Fever, with his feet [on the console] is dead or at least not getting ratings. I did my [four-and-a-halfhour] show standing up. When it was over, I was consumed. I was [accustomed] to getting up at 4am and I’m doing it again but it’s a different kind of energy. We’re here at 5am editing stories and rewriting others until 6:45am. There are days when I see funny things or have an idea I’d like to use on-air but those are rare [instances]. I’m not sitting around wishing to put the headsets back on.” INSIDE RADIO Personality Interviews by MIKE KINOSIAN Monday, July 28, 2008 Page 3 of 3 Some combo programmers/air personalities have a clear-cut preference and won’t contend they enjoy both in perfectly equal measure. “I’ve always thought I was a very good morning guy who could also program,” Chapman declares. “If I had to do one, I wouldn’t have a job because I didn’t think I was good enough at either. If I had both, I could hold onto a paycheck. I’m a morning guy by trade, became a PD by necessity and got to be pretty good at it. I don’t know many things about programming and don’t want to.” There’s No Crying In Radio Freely admitting he “hates” studying research Chapman remarks, “I’d rather have someone [else] look at Arbitron and tell me how we’re doing. I [prefer] fun things like coming up with the next promotion and writing the next great promo. Doing quarterly reports isn’t my deal. Taking KVIL from the junk heap and making it a dominant [Adult Contemporary] station in the country was a [major accomplishment]. I don’t know that we did – but in a way – we invented the AC format.” Being an integral part of Dallas’ radio scene essentially since 1959 and getting to substitute for a genuine broadcasting icon are more than enough to satisfy anyone so Chapman doesn’t regret not working in Boston radio. “I could have,” he mentions. “Jim Hilliard offered me the chance to do mornings at WHDH. I thought about it but said no because I didn’t need to do that anymore. That’s yesterday’s news.” Their friends perceive Chapman and his wife – who’ve sold their house and are moving into a high-rise - live like nomads but the Texas Radio Hall of Famer emphasizes, “One of life’s great joys is you don’t know what’s going to happen next. I have no idea how long I’ll be doing this but I’m having great fun. I get to do what I want and will continue until it stops being fun. If the transmitter falls on me tomorrow, `Don’t cry for me, Argentina.’ What a ride it’s been.” WHO: Ron Chapman WHAT: Architect/Interim Program Director WHERE: Citadel’s KPMZ “Platinum 96.7”/Dallas HOW LONG: Debuted June 30, 2008 WHAT: Principal Substitute Host WHERE: ABC Radio’s “Paul Harvey News & Comment” HOW LONG: Since April 2008 Published by INSIDE RADIO.com Monday, July 28, 2008. Written by Personality Editor, Mike Kinosian for INSIDE RADIO and M Street Corp. All rights reserved. No alterations to the content of this story are permitted. — Sponsored by ASCAP
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