THE NEED FOR A PARADIGM SHIFT IN GASTROENTEROLOGY Dr. Harley Sobin United Hospital System, Kenosha, WI March 28, 2014 [email protected] 262-653-5330 IT’S 5:30 ON FRIDAY, WHERE ARE THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD WINE BARS? BIN 36: 339 NORTH DEARBORN POPS FOR CHAMPAGNE: 601 N. STATE ENO: 505 N MICHIGAN (INTERCONTINENTAL HOTEL) WEBSTER WINE BAR: 1480 N WEBSTER DOC WINE BAR: 2602 N CLARK STREET DISCLOSURES NONE THE NEED FOR A PARADIGM SHIFT IN GASTROENTEROLOGY WE CAN OFFER GREAT THERAPEUTIC SKILLS TO GI PTS WITH ORGANIC DISEASE-GI BLEEDS, CROHN’S, ETC IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD MASTER THE SAME THERAPEUTIC MAGIC FOR OUR PTS WITH FUNCTIONAL AND ANXIETY DISORDERS GASTROENTEROLOGISTS ARE VERY WELL TRAINED TECHNICIANS BUT HAVE LITTLE, if any, TRAINING IN PSYCHOLOGY COMPLEX GI PATIENTS HAVE PSYCHIATRIC COMORBIDITIES FOR WHICH WE, GASTROENTEROLOGISTS, ARE WOEFULLY UNDERPREPARED HOW DO GASTROENTEROLOGISTS THINK ABOUT ANXIETY DISORDERS THEY DON’T! THE FIRST INSTINCT OF A GASTROENTEROLOGIST IS TO ENDOSCOPE THE PATIENT WE TEND TO HAVE A MECHANISTIC APPROACH TO GI SYMPTOMS WE WILL FREQUENTLY ENDOSCOPE OR ORDER AN XRAY OF THE PART OF THE GI TRACT CORRESPONDING TO THE SYMPTOM COMPLEX WE ARE TRAINED WITH TECHNICAL SUPREMACY WE ARE TRAINED TO DO THE NEATEST THINGS WITH ENDOSCOPES OUR TECHNICAL TRICKS DON’T ALWAYS BENEFIT PATIENT CARE MANY OF OUR PTS ARE UNLIKELY TO HAVE A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM CAUSING THEIR GI SYMPTOMS IF WE FIND A MINOR STRUCTURAL DISTURBANCE, IS IT REALLY CAUSING THE PROBLEM? CASE A 35 YO ANXIOUS WOMAN COMPLAINS OF ABDOMINAL PAIN. BECAUSE OF UNREMITTING SYMPTOMS SHE HAS A GASTROSCOPY. THE GASTROSCOPY SHOWS MINOR GASTRITIS-NO MAJOR ULCER. SHE BECOMES PREOCCUPIED WITH THE FACT THAT SHE HAS GASTRITIS. THE GASTROENTEROLOGIST, HOWEVER, IS FULLY AWARE THAT HE HAS “SCOPED” MANY OTHER PATIENTS WHO TURNED OUT TO HAVE MILD GASTRITIS WHO HAVE BEEN TOTALLY ASYMPTOMATIC (ENDOSCOPED FOR GI BLOOD LOSS) HE IS NOT CONVINCED THAT HIS FINDINGS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER SYMPTOMS HAS HER CARE BEEN HELPED? HINDERED? ETIOLOGIES FOR GI SYMPTOMS STRUCTURAL DISORDERS FUNCTIONAL DISORDERS ANXIETY DISORDERS OVERLAP SYNDROMES TAILOR ENDOSCOPY TO ALARM SIGNALS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT ENDOSCOPY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CERTAIN SYMPTOMS THAT ACT AS RED FLAGS PRESSURE TO DO ENDOSCOPY IN THE GENERAL COMMUNITY THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT MOST SYMPTOMS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED WITH ENDOSCOPY CASE 20 YO SINGLE MOTHER COMPLAINS OF ABDOMINAL PAIN, CONSTIPATION, DIARRHEA, NAUSEA FOR “A LONG TIME”. SHE CLAIMS SHE IS UNABLE TO EAT ANY FOOD BECAUSE IT MAKES HER SICK. BUT IN SPITE OF THAT SHE HAS NOT LOST ANY WEIGHT. SHE IS VERY STRESSED. HER 2 YR OLD DOESN’T BEHAVE. SHE FIGHTS WITH HER BOYFRIEND. SHE ISN’T HAPPY IN HER PART TIME JOB. SHE COMES TO THE ER FREQUENTLY COMPLAINING OF PAIN. MULTIPLE LABS HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE. A CAT SCAN WAS ORDERED WITH NEGATIVE RESULTS. FINALLY SHE IS ADMITTED. HER ATTENDING IS FRUSTRATED AND CALLS IN A GASTROENTEROLOGIST ASKING HIM TO PERFORM A GASTROSCOPY AND COLONOSCOPY BECAUSE OF THE NAUSEA AND ABDOMINAL PAIN. ON EXAM-THE PATIENT KEEPS HER EYES SHUT DURING ABDOMINAL PALPATION. SHE CLAIMS THAT EVEN LIGHT PRESSURE CAUSES EXCRUCIATING PAIN.HOWEVER, HER ABDOMEN IS RELATIVELY BENIGN AS IS THE REST OF HER PHYSICAL EXAM . THE PATIENT IS VERY ANXIOUS, DEMANDING, AND MAKES THE CONSULTANT ANXIOUS GASTROSCOPY AND COLONOSCOPY ARE PERFORMED AND SHOW MILD ESOPHAGEAL IRRITATION AND A NORMAL COLON. HER WORK-UP IS FAIRLY UNREVEALING. THE PT IS PLACED ON ANTISPASMODICS AND PRILOSEC. BUT SHE FAILS TO IMPROVE SHARED FRUSTRATION NEITHER THE PATIENT NOR THE GASTROENTEROLOGIST IS PLEASED IN SUCH CASES THE PT JUST WANTS HER SYMPTOMS TO GO AWAY DOCTOR WANTS TO WASH HIS HANDS OF THE CASE SAYING: “THIS IS NOT GI” OR “SHE’S JUST CRAZY” PSYCH PATIENTS MAKE GI DOCS ANXIOUS AS GI DOCS WE SHY AWAY FROM PTS WITH COMPLEX PSYCH PROBLEMS. WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM. THESE PTS MAKE US UNCOMFORTABLE. WE CAN’T PROVIDE THEM WHAT THEY NEED AND YET MANY OF THE PTS WHO COME TO US HAVE SIGNIFICANT PSYCHIATRIC CO-MORBIDITIES WE ARE MUCH BETTER WITH ORGANIC DISEASES GIVE US A GOOD CASE OF PEPTIC ULCERS, PANCREATITIS, CROHN’S, OR COLON POLYPS WE ARE MUCH BETTER PREPARED DEALING WITH FUNCTIONAL BOWEL DISORDERS AS FIBROMYALGIA IS TO RHEUMATOLOGISTS, AND MIGRAINE IS TO NEUROLOGISTS, IBS AND OTHER GI FUNCTIONAL DISORDERS FORCE US TO DEAL WITH SYMPTOMS WHERE THERE IS NO ANATOMIC ABNORMALITY MANY GI’S ( ALTHOUGH NOT ALL) ARE COMFORTABLE TREATING FUNCTIONAL BOWEL DISORDERS DOUG DROSSMAN IS OUR OUTSTANDING MENTOR IN THIS ARENA WE USE MEDS, DIET, EVEN PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS TO MANAGE CHARACTERISTIC SYMPTOM COMPLEXES IBS-D MEDS IMODIUM,LOMOTIL. ANTISPASMODIC-BENTYL, LIBRAX, HYOSCYAMINE, DONNATAL CHOLESTYRAMINE ( 4 GRAMS IN AM), COLESEVALAM(WELCHOL-3 TABS IN AM) NORTRIPTYLINE (AND OTHER TCAS) 10 MG HS INCREASE AS NEEDED RIFAXAMIN 550MG BID-TID FOR 2 WEEKS ALOSETRON 0.5MG QD-1 MG BID UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES: MESALAMINE,CROMOLYN,PANCREASE FUNCTIONAL BOWEL DISEASE ITS NOT JUST IBS ANYMORE FUNCTIONAL HEARTBURN FUNCTIONAL CHEST PAIN FUNCTIONAL DYSPHAGIA FUNCTIONAL DYSPEPSIA FUNCTIONAL NAUSEA AND VOMITING FUNCTIONAL DIARRHEA, COMSTIPATION FUNCTIONAL ABDOMINAL PAIN WHAT THESE ALL HAVE IN COMMON ABSENCE OF ORGANIC, SYSTEMIC OR METABOLIC DISEASE TO EXPLAIN THE SYMPTOMS USE OF PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS IN GASTROENTEROLOGY STRESS AND ANXIETY CLEARLY ARE IMPORTANT IN FUNCTIONAL BOWEL DISEASE DOSAGE OF PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS USED FOR FBD TENDS TO BE LOWER THAN STANDARD ANTIDEPRESSANT DOSE MEDS SEEM TO WORK BY DECREASING PAIN, BLOATING AND SIMILAR SYMPTOMS USE OF TRICYCLIC ANTIDEPRESSANTS IN IBS PTS INVARIABLY ARE STARTED ON OTHER AGENTS LIKE ANTI-SPASMODICS FIRST TCAS ARE ADDED IN MORE RESISTANT CASES WE START AT A VERY LOW NIGHT TIME DOSE AND GRADUALLY INCREASE AS NEEDED INCREASED USE OF PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS BY GI DOCS USE OF TCA’S IN IBS-MY FAVORITE IS NORTRIPTYLINE (START 10-20MG HS) MIRTAZAPINE FOR FUNCTIONAL NAUSEA, DYSPEPSIA ( 7.5-15MG) DULOXETINE FOR FUNCTIONAL ABDOMINAL PAIN(30-60MG) VENLAFAXINE FOR FUNCTIONAL CHEST PAIN(37.575MG) INCREASED USE OF SSRI’S FOR ANXIETY CASE A 45 YO WOMAN HAS A LONG H/O INTERMITTENT ABDOMINAL CRAMPS AND DIARRHEA. 15YEARS EARLIER SOME BARIUM STUDIES AND ENDOSCOPIES WERE DONE AND SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH IBS. SHE WAS STARTED ON LIBRAX WITH MARKED RELIEF. NOW 15 YEARS LATER THERE WERE NEW LIFE STRESSORS AND SEVERE ABD PAIN DEVELOPED. THIS FAILED TO RESPOND TO LIBRAX. CASE SHE WAS EXTREMELY DEBILITATED BY HER GI SYMPTOMS. WORK-UP REVEALED NO NEW PATHOLOGY WE ADDED NORTRIPTYLINE 10 MG HS THEN INCREASED IT TO 20MG AND THE SYMPTOMS RESOLVED. A YEAR LATER THE PT IS WITHOUT SYMPTOMS. FUNCTIONAL CHEST PAIN MEDS ANTISPASMODICS-BENTYL, LIBRAX, HYOSCYAMINE VENLAFAXINE -75MG CITALOPRAM 20MG TRAZADONE (75-100MG) SERTRALINE (50-200MG) IMIPRAMINE (25-75MG) DILTIAZAM( 60-90 TID) NIFEDIPINE (10-30TID) BACLOFEN 5MG TID (UP TO 20 MG TID) THEOPHYLINE DIAGNOSING ANXIETY DISORDERS WHILE MANY GI SYMPTOMS ARE DUE TO EITHER STRUCTURAL OR FUNCTIONAL DISORDERS SOME MAY BE MANIFESTATIONS OF AN ANXIETY DISORDER GASTROENTEROLOGISTS ARE REALLY NOT TRAINED TO DIAGNOSE THESE CASE 15 YO BOY PRESENTED WITH PERSISTENT NAUSEA, GAGGING, SENSATION OF LIQUIDS COMING BACK FROM HIS STOMACH INTO HIS THROAT, SORE THROAT THE SYMPTOMS HAD BEEN WORSENING OVER SEVERAL MONTHS THE FIRST OCCURRENCE FOLLOWED A MIDDLE SCHOOL BAND EVENT. PRIOR TO THE EVENT A BUS TAKING THE BAND STOPPED AT A MCDONALD’S ON THE WAY TO THE CONCERT VENUE. PT FELT SICK AFTER EATING BUT STILL HAD TO GO AHEAD AND PERFORM NO ONE ELSE GOT SICK AFTERWARD AFTER THE CONCERT HE STARTED HAVING SYMPTOMS DAILY THIS LED TO MULTIPLE SCHOOL ABSENCES WHEN HE WENT TO SCHOOL HE WOULD VISIT THE NURSE DAILY AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS THE FAMILY TOOK THE PATIENT TO AN ENT SPECIALIST ENT LOOKED IN HIS THROAT AND SAID THERE WAS EVIDENCE FOR ACID REFLUX PT WAS PLACED ON PREVACID WITH MINIMAL RELIEF GASTRIC AND THROAT SYMPTOMS CONTINUED PT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY TAKEN TO A GASTROENTEROLOGIST, ONE OF MY PARTNERS THE GI WAS ABOUT TO SET UP A GASTROSCOPY TO EVALUATE NAUSEA, STOMACH UPSET, AND REFLUX NOT RESPONDING TO PREVACID THEN A PSYCHOLOGIST FRIEND OF THE FAMILY INTERVENED, SAYING THIS WAS A CLASSIC SET OF SYMPTOMS OF ANXIETY DISORDER BASICALLY PROHIBITED THE ENDOSCOPY THE PATIENT WAS REFERRED FOR AND UNDERWENT EXPOSURE THERAPY THE SYMPTOMS REGRESSED ENDOSCOPY WAS NEVER PERFORMED A BLIND SPOT IN THIS CASE THE PATIENT’S GI SYMPTOMS WERE MANIFESTATIONS OF AN ANXIETY DISORDER THE PEDIATRICIAN, ENT AND GI SPECIALIST ALL MISSED THE DIAGNOSIS IF A PT WALKS IN COMPLAINING OF PALPIATIONS, SHORTNESS OF BREATH, OR A H/O ANXIETY ATTACKS THE GI MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DIAGNOSIS OTHERWISE, NOT LIKELY THIS REALLY IS A SORT OF “BLIND SPOT” FOR US WE SPECIALISTS CAN BE MYOPIC IN MEDICINE WE SPECIALISTS HAVE A VERY NARROW FOCUS. THE ENT, THE GASTROENTEROLOGIST, THE CARDIOLOGIST, THE PULMONARY SPECIALIST MAY ALL SEE THE SAME PATIENT THROUGH OUR VERY SPECIFIC FILTERS. THE ELEPHANT AND THE BLIND MEN THE ELEPHANT AND THE BLIND MEN 7 BLIND MEN ENCOUNTER AN ELEPHANT ONE OF THE BLIND MEN REACHES FOR THE ELEPHANT’S TRUNK, ANOTHER IT’S TUSK, ANOTHER THE EAR, AND ONE THE LEG THE ONE STUDYING IT’S TRUNK SAYS THE ELEPHANT IS LIKE A SNAKE, THE ONE EXAMINING THE TUSK-THAT IT THE ELEPHANT IS SHARP-LIKE A SPEAR, THE ONE TOUCHING THE EAR-THAT THE ELEPHANT IS LIKE A FAN, AND THE ONE GRABBING THE LEGTHAT THE ELEPHANT IS LIKE A TREE THE BLIND MEN ALL INTERPRET THE ELEPHANT BASED ON THEIR NARROW EXPERIENCES OUR LIMITED FOCI KEEP US FROM GRASPING THE GESTALT OUR NARROW FILTERS COMPROMISE MANAGEMENT OF THESE MORE COMPLEX PATIENTS WE NEED A WAY TO SEE THE BROADER PICTURE IT IS CLEAR THAT MANY OF OUR PATIENTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM SEEING A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALIST THE IDEAL WORLD TAKE MY PATIENT NEXT DOOR TO THE PRACTICING PSYCHOTHERAPIST OR EXPECTATION OF EVERY PATIENT BEING SEEN BY A PSYCHOTHERAPIST AS CO-MANAGER DOESN’T EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY ROADBLOCKS TO CO-MANAGING WITH PSYCHOLOGISTS GI MAY BE UNAWARE OF NEED FOR PSYCH HELP PATIENTS ARE VERY RESISTANT TO THE IDEA OF SEEING A PSYCHOLOGIST ACCESS TO A PSYCHOLOGIST BECAUSE OF INSURANCE/FINANCIAL/GEOGRAPHIC REASONS MAY BE A LIMITATION PROBLEMS GETTING THE PATIENT TO “BUY IN” PATIENTS ARE FREQUENTLY RESISTANT TO THE IDEA THAT THEIR SYMPTOMS ARE RELATED TO ANXIETY OR DEPRESSION THEY GET ANGRY “THAT DOCTOR IS JUST LABELING ME AS A CRAZY PERSON” TEND TO RESENT AND LOSE FAITH IN THE GASTROENTEROLOGIST 15 YO BOY - PATIENT FOLLOW-UP 5 YEARS LATER HE IS DOING WELL. HIS THROAT AND GI SYMPTOMS OCCUR RARELY. WHEN THEY DO HE LABELS THEM AS ANXIETY AND SELF MANAGES THEM WHEN THE SYMPTOMS FIRST STARTED HE WOULD DRY HEAVE UPON ENTERING AN AIRPORT. NOW HE CAN FLY ALONE FOR 14 HOURS WITH NO PROBLEM CURRENTLY DOING WELL AS A PRE-MED STUDENT IN A LARGE MIDWEST UNIVERSITY MY RUDE AWAKENING AS A GASTROENTEROLOGIST PATIENT IS MY SON CHANGES I HAVE MADE I ENTER INTO MOST NEW PT ENCOUNTERS ASKING MYSELF IF ANXIETY OR DEPRESSION IS PLAYING A ROLE I INFORM THE PT EARLY ON THAT WE MAY NOT FIND A STRUCTURAL EXPLANATION FOR THE SYMPTOMS I INFORM THEM OF THE DUALITY OF MIND-BODY MEDICINE. SYMPTOMS MAY BE ANXIETY DRIVEN. I SUGGEST THAT THEIR SYMPTOMS MAY BE IMPROVED BY MEETING WITH A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALIST ACTION FOR THE FUTURE WE REALLY NEED MORE EDUCATION IN OUR GI TRAINING PROGRAMS ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. THERE IS A PAUCITY OF LECTURES ON PSYCHOLOGY AT OUR NATIONAL CONFERENCES IDEALLY THERE SHOULD BE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALISTS TO JOIN US ON ROUNDS, OR IN A NEARBY OFFICE OR HOSPITAL SETTING WHAT YOU COULD DO AS PSYCH PROFESSIONALS SPEAK AT NATIONAL GI MEETINGS GET INVOLVED WITH WORKSHOPS FOR/WITH GASTROENTEROLOGISTS PRACTITIONERS-GO TO YOUR LOCAL GI AND LET HIM KNOW HOW YOU CAN ASSIST IDEAL WOULD BE TO HAVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALIST SHARE TEACHING ROUNDS IN THE HOSPITAL THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION TIME FOR HAPPY HOUR BIN 36: 339 NORTH DEARBORN POPS FOR CHAMPAGNE: 601 N. STATE ENO: 505 N MICHIGAN (INTERCONTINENTAL HOTEL) WEBSTER WINE BAR: 1480 N WEBSTER DOC WINE BAR: 2602 N CLARK STREET
© Copyright 2025 Paperzz