Transcript of our January 21, 2014, interview with Cobra. DD: Cobra are you with us? C: Yes I’m with you thank you for inviting me to this interview. DD: We appreciate you being here. LE: Yes thank you so much for joining us. I’m just gonna jump right in asking about what the Resistance Movement is exactly. C: The resistance movement is actually, I would say a civilization or a culture, which is living below the physical surface of this planet in underground cities of light. And their purpose is liberation of this planet—that’s why they are here. Actually they arrived, most of them arrived to this planet a little bit more than ten years ago and when there was a strong conflict between the underground government, which is a positive civilization, and the negative military forces, which were aligned with the reptilian race, in the underground military bases. And the Resistance Movement came to support the Light forces; clear the underground military bases and now is about to assist us in liberating also the surface of this planet. DD: So Cobra, give us an idea of how the resistance is structured and who makes up the resistance. Now I imagine it’s you know, most certainly embodied humans but there are other aspects and other support outside of embodied humans involved, right? C: Actually the Resistance Movement is in constant contact with positive extraterrestrial races especially with the Pleiadians and they receive guidance from them. We have—the number of the resistance movement personnel is not always the same it varies between 20 and 17 (70?) million depending on the planetary situation. And most of them are situated underground and they have a little bit… a small amount of their agents on the surface of the planet and some of those agents are infiltrated inside the system--inside the network over the Cabal and they’re working for the light. They are actually preparing the surface of the planet for actual liberation now. DD: So Cobra how did the resistance come about and establish the contact with the Pleiadians and everything else? C: Actually there is a planet, which is orbiting the sun. It belongs in the same solar system. It is called Planet X. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Nibiru, to clarify this. It is an actual planet which is orbiting this solar, the sun; in orbit which is further away, much further away than Pluto. And up until quite recently the whole solar system was occupied by the Cabal and by the negative aliens. And then the surface of the population of Planet X decided to liberate themselves. They actually had their own liberation process, and this liberation process was assisted by the Pleiadians. And after they had managed to throw off the Cabal from the planet they had proceeded through the solar system; they had cleared many bases that were under the surface of Mars, under the surface of the Moon; on the satellites of Saturn and some other locations… and at the final stage we have entered the underground military base(s) on this planet. Cleared those bases and now they’re ready to approach the surface. LE: So Cobra, how did your role with the resistance come about? C: Actually, many years ago I had published some email that turned out to be quite sensitive and that made the Cabal a little bit crazy. They attacked me and as soon as they attacked me, or I would say very soon after that, the Resistance made a certain form of contact with me. They explained to me what was going on because I had no idea about the Cabal at that time. No idea what was going on with the planet, and they gave me some guidance and some training and this started my long cooperation with them. Actually this was not my first contact with them but I would say that my active, conscious cooperation started then. And then I think it was about a little bit like 3 years ago they asked me to start a blog; which I have started because they said the time is approaching, that the planetary surface needs to be liberated. And they gave me instructions exactly how to start the blog, what to write about and as you can see the whole project is quite successful. DD: Absolutely. So, tell us, what is, you know, what needs to be happening right now and how does your role, play into all of that? C: I am the first person, for the Resistance Movement to the surface population of this planet. I am giving information that is given to me by them, giving guidance and instructions to prepare the surface population for the event, for the liberation itself. So this is my role and my role will change in the event, it will not stay the same. LE: So Cobra, where are we currently in terms of succeeding in overcoming the obstacles of the darker alien agendas as a collective? C: Ok, basically if we speak about the dark alien agendas we have been extremely successful. The Resistance Movement has managed with the positive ET forces to clear all negative ET races. Many of those races have crossed over into the light. Some of the individuals have been, have to be taken to the central sun for restructuring and the only negative alien presence is those who have come to this planet, and are now living on the surface of this planet and are infiltrated inside the system itself. Some of them came to this planet many lifetimes ago. But some of them came to this planet as late as the late 90’s in the so-called Conga invasion. So we have many beings who don’t belong to this planet and are here assisting the Cabal in their control... in their control agenda—and this hasn’t been cleared yet. DD: As I’ve gone through your blog site, it would appear that the resistance has made tremendous headway. I mean talk to us about how that’s shaping up because I read that and then I look at other things in the news and this and that and I’m not sure I’m seeing exactly how that’s playing out. C: Yes, there is constant headway all the time but you need to understand that many things are happening behind the scenes and are not being reported by the mainstream media because of who the mainstream media are under control of the Cabal. So, many things have happened already and you will see no reports about them in the mainstream media and just a little report in the alternative media; because as well the alternative media is under control to a great degree or are manipulated by a great degree. LE: So can you talk to us a little bit about your view on the return of the Goddess and how that’s going to assist in shifting things… C: Actually return of the Goddess energy is crucial to the planetary liberation. The Goddess energy, which is the pure aspect of the feminine in this universe, has been artificially suppressed on this planet to a certain degree for the last 25,000 years—to a much greater degree in the last 5,000 years and completely in the last 2,000 years or so. And this was the main controlling factor the Cabal used to suppress humanity because when the Goddess principle is fully present and manifest on the physical plane, human beings cannot be enslaved. Somebody who has fully activated the Goddess presence inside of her or his being cannot be enslaved; cannot be manipulated and is a free being. So the return of the Goddess energy is one of the key elements of the planetary liberation. DD: So explain to us the role of gold, and what’s happened with that dynamic with all of this now. C: Yes, this is another key element in the whole process especially regarding the financial system. For the most of human history, as long as the financial system was operational, gold had a very important role. Gold was actually underwriting or supporting the financial system until 1971, completely. And then, the Cabal started this experiment with fiat money, which was not actually fiat money because gold was still secretly underwriting the system until three years ago when the Resistance Movement removed all the gold from the hand of the Cabal. And this put the Cabal into great trouble because they had not been [able] to support their system and their system is falling apart. As you can read in the news today, they—the Federal Reserve has a problem to return to Germany their gold. They have managed to return—they have managed to find five tons of gold over a one-year period—which is extremely little, concerning the whole world reserve, the gold reserves. And now we are in the final phase because in the mainstream media you can start reading reports that the gold price is being manipulated. And when this becomes mainstream knowledge, the whole house of cards will fall apart. And this is a crucial procedure that needs to take place before the financial reset. LE: I was wondering if you could tell us about the current Archon leader and what that looks like and how it’s manifesting… C: Basically there’s an individual that came to this planet through the rotation chamber in late 1995 in Congo and moved to a certain location which I will not disclose but that location is quite close to Rome. And that being has expansive networks of contacts, especially through Jesuits, through Opus Dei to Knights of Malta and he’s actually controlling the whole network because of his occult religion understanding, on the planetary situation. He’s the one who has the most intel on the dark side of the whole situation. That being will be removed from the planet in the quite near future and will not be able to continue with his work anymore. DD: So Cobra is there a challenge, what’s the challenge right now with all of this? Does it look like the forces of the resistance and liberation— like there could be something that could trip up that movement? Or, is it pretty much anchor, lock and sealed where we’re gonna come out on top of this? C: The progress of Light is unstoppable—it cannot be stopped. It can only be delayed as you have all experienced the last few years and this is simply, there are many factors in this. Number one is the human factor, number two is that humanity has been taken hostage; and it is not easy to disentangle the situation to where the hostages will not be harmed. So we have to proceed cautiously and not create more harm than good so this is why it takes so long. LE: So in the face of things like Fukushima and chemtrails and the assaults on our physical body, how are we going to be able to expand into higher Earth energies if our physical bodies are being compromised? C: This is a temporary situation. After the event there will be drastic healing available to remove the toxins to reinstate balance and harmony in the physical bodies and also in our higher bodies. So all the situations we’re experiencing right now are just temporary, it will not be something that will determine our destiny long run. DD: Cobra give us, take us into the energetic of what the event will actually be and how it’s going to be brought about… C: The event is actually the moment of a compression breakthrough, and compression breakthrough is the moment when the light from above and the light from below meet in the middle. Light from above is the presence of all of the extraterrestrial races the light from below is the presence of the resistance movement; and when the two lights meet in the middle in the surface of the planet. And that will be the moment when many things will happen. Number one is the financial reset that everybody’s talking about. It will happen at that exact moment. It will happen in a very specific way, the resistance movement will simply activate the virus; which is now over the present, uh in the Central Banking system—a computer virus. And as you know central banks communicate through a computer network, which appears to be secure, but it’s actually not. So the resistance movement will activate that virus and the Central Banks will not be able to communicate with each other and this will shut down the current financial system for some time. The second thing that will happen will be the arrest of the members of the Cabal. And the third thing that will happen is, will be that the Light forces will take control over the mass media and start spreading the real information. And when everybody will be able to see and watch the truth on tv they will begin to awaken. And after some time this will of course lead to various developments inside of humanity that will lead to the New Age. The new… I would say the new cycle for humanity, with new advanced technologies, with spiritual awakening and of course with the first contact with other positive races across the Universe. And this planet will finally be able to be joined, aligned with Galactic society. So this is a brief overview of what is waiting for us. DD: Now give us an idea—I mean I understand that there are, you know, variables in this but is there a timeframe, a projected timeframe for this or what are you and the resistance thinking about that? C: I don’t want to speak about timeframes for various reasons. Number one the timeframe can always change because of the freewill of everybody involved; and the second reason—I would not wish to give the Cabal the information about this. Of course they are listening and they are making their plans and it is not the type of information that I would like to release right now. LE: Cobra can you tell us about what the resistance movement—how the resistance movement has liberated other planets? C: It is a state of protocol for most planets that’s simply because the population of those planets is much more awake than the human population. This standard protocol cannot be used for this planet because the surface population is much more asleep. And the key element of liberating every planet is dissemination of truth, through the mass media or through any type of medias on the planet. For this planet the key element is internet. Internet was designed and developed with the guidance from the resistance in the 1970’s with the purpose of liberating this planet—that was the main idea why internet was developed. And internet will have the cure and it already has the cure all, in liberating humanity and preparing humanity for its liberation. LE: Can you tell us a little bit about what the leader of the resistance movement has been up against, working here on Earth? C: I know that personally, he is my good friend and he is a very positive, very good and very strong being. He has a deep understanding of how the surface of the planet works and he was actually one of the main people who designed the plan that the people have been talking about. There were parts of this plan that a certain individual by the name of Greg was talking about in his early radio broadcast when he was feeling conflict with one of the agents of the resistance. But there is much more to this, and he will be, in a certain way, involved in rebuilding of the human society after the event. DD: Cobra give us an idea, if there are listeners listening to this now that don’t know much about the resistance; that haven’t heard about you or your role—what’s the call to action for someone that’s just not quite immersed in all of this yet but is now being presented with this or coming across this information? C: Number one I would say educate yourself. You can get much information on my blog and you can also explore the internet there is much information available. Number two I would say use your discernment and train your discernment to discern truth from disinfo because there is an informational war going on. You have to use your own intuition and your own logical mind to get the truth. And number three, take action in any way possible. There are many ways people can take action to assist in the planetary liberation. And of course each individual is unique and you need to listen to your own inner guidance. This drive has to come from inside. It is not something I told you to do, it is something that comes from inside. LE: Yes, absolutely. Do you see a bifurcation happening now—a lot of people talk about that where some move on and some remain trapped; or is this something that we’re all going to be experiencing together? C: This bifurcation is a temporary phenomenon, which always happens when a chaotic system goes through a transition (?) phase. But in the long run we are all going through a transformation and a key moment in the transformation will be when the mass media are liberated and then the truth will be distributed through the mass media. At that point nobody will be able to deny the truth. DD: So, people have so many, you know, the fear machine is in full force and so what can you say to people that are really… just don’t know how to deal with what they’re hearing about the Fukushima radiation, what they’re learning about chemtrails the whole Monsanto and GMO and everything like that. These are things that are bringing people down into a very deep fear space—what can help people not get lost in all of that? C: The main problem is that this information is not presented in a balanced perspective. Number one, many of those things are exaggerated and some of them are also disinfo; and number two most articles writing about those things are not presenting solutions. So people need to have a balanced perspective that includes solutions to those problems. DD: So Cobra, how, and I hear and understand what you’re saying but how do people then get the real information. I mean I use my body as a barometer and this and that but I mean still, there’s so much information out there or disinformation out there—how does discernment kick in and how do we know what we’re believing is true? C: Basically you need to train yourself. And you can start training yourself in your own life situations everyday. What your own guidance is telling you about your basic life situations everyday. And if you train your guidance it will get better and better; and then you can apply the same principle to the information you read on the internet. And also educate yourself about every area of human endeavor—about science, about art, about everything and then you will have a broader perspective and more understanding and you will be able to see this information very clearly. LE: So in this shift that we’re in when we actually do move into higher Earth energies does this mean that we’re free of the life-death cycle? I mean, what does it really look like, once we’re there? C: This will be a gradual process, this reincarnation or recycling process has been instituted by the Archons in a way to [instill fear] on this planet, so this will change. We will be able to choose the length of our lifespan by our own will and we will be able to renew our bodies and some people will choose to ascend to higher dimensions that will transcend the physical body. So it will be a process that will have many options available and nobody will be forced to incarnate ever again. DD: So, in this process, and in this shift, those of us that go through it —I mean, here we are in this reality where the true nature of what we’re doing is so different then what it’s going to be so what is it going to be like? You know, here so much of what I do as an embodied human now has to do with assisting the collective in its evolution. I don’t think I’ll have the same purpose after the event, or after the shift —will I? C: Actually this will continue, after the even there will be much to do. Humanity will need a lot of healing, it will be actually… uh, then the real work will start but it will be much more exciting and it will be much easier. Because there will be no more dark forces hindering our progress, we will be able to express the potential of Light fully and that was never possible on this planet for the last 25,000 years. LE: What can um, what is the best way that we can really, really step it up? I mean I know that it’s about the inner work but is there anything you can share with our listeners that can help them to connect with the best type of solution since there’s a lot of reversal codes out there and people are gravitating towards New Age deception? What’s a good grounding and anchoring point for people to go on, to really, really start this process? C: Ok, I will suggest everybody to participate in the portal openings because it will reach a critical mass of people doing some activations. During those activations we can inform the planetary situation. And also of course to join our weekly meditation every Sunday if we get a larger number of people doing that we can, again, inform the planetary situation. They have scientific studies made of an effect of those mass activations and meditations and it has been scientifically proven that we can change the situation on this planet. DD: So, let’s just… I know I already brought up fear once but I’m gonna come back to it. So speak to us a little bit about the role of fear and once we step into this, this information of yours and of the resistance and taking a look at everything from that perspective… What’s the healthy role for fear? C: Ok fear is just a signal that there is certain disharmony and you need to take a look at a situation. And when you go beyond your comfort zone everyday a little bit at a time, you will be able to handle your fears. And when the fear arises it will be just an indication that there might be a certain situation that needs you to be alert, and deal with the situation consciously. It will not be a blocking factor anymore —and if you use fear in that way, fear will begin to develop and move away from the light. DD: Just a quick follow up on this I mean, you know, there’s a lot of people that wonder why you have to be so anonymous. In this day and age of NSA and everything that they know about all of us, I mean if they wanted you out of the picture, would they really—just because we do the voice modulation and, you know, all the precautions you’ve taken, is it really protecting you, if they really wanted you out of the way? C: Basically I have a protection from the Resistance movement. Protection that, uh this Resistance movement is protecting me against the key members of the Cabal. But they cannot protect me against every crazy individual that is out there. So this is one of the reasons I need to modulate my voice—and also to protect my privacy. LE: And I like also, how you said it’s about the message not the messenger and I just have to ask your perspective because… you know, not that this explains creation like it was an error, you know, some kind of big mistake happened that led to where we are today. What’s your viewpoint, do you feel that this is all everything a part of the Divine plan or are we dealing with a big error that we’re trying to fix that happened in the beginning? C: I would agree with gnostic teachings because they are the last remnants of the true teachings that were basically destroyed by the Archons; and it is true there was a certain error in the creation which happened at a certain stage… and we’re now correcting that error. And as you can see it’s not that easy. We are looking at it and we have not been actually successful. But yes, there was a certain error and yes there is a correction to this error taking place right now. LE: Thank you. DD: And so, you know, as we watch everything unfold… it’s a little hard to wrap around, you know, again I guess I keep coming back to it and maybe it’s just part of me still being stuck in some of the conditioning. Are we talking about this being, and you know the event —and sorry to just ask something that I’ve kind of already asked but— let me ask in a different way… are we talking about the event being something in the next two to five years or in the next, you know, five to fifteen years? C: Again, I will not give any timeframes. DD: Gotcha, ok. It’s just, I guess from my own perspective it seems like there’s so much going on that isn’t in alignment yet with the direction that you’re talking about. Of course, on the surface we have no way of seeing how the gold was taken away or anything like that. I mean even that in itself, all of that gold is now no longer in their hands? I mean, that must’ve been a huge undertaking to make that happen. But then… C: No, no it was quite easy cause [the] operation, which took a few days, or I would say a few nights—it was taken during the night. It was quite easy but it had to be at the right moment to have the right effect. DD: Right. It seems strange that it would’ve been that easy because isn’t that a big piece of what’s happening? It seems like that would’ve been a more challenging thing to pull together. C: You see, the actions themselves are not that difficult, but what is quite difficult is that all the preparation work that needs to be done before a certain operation takes place and only after months or even years of hard, preparation work do actions of the Resistance Movement take place. And this is why when they happen they are very successful. LE: Ok, Cobra, I understand how we’re all made of the Creator forces —you know that are basically behind the Creation that we’re currently in but from your perspective, I mean, what are the real characters here? I mean, we hear about Lucifer, we hear about Satan, we hear about God, we hear about the Demiurge, we hear about Jehovah… I mean how do you work with all these difference energies? I mean I know it’s about doing the inner work and aligning them within ourselves but on a larger picture level, how do you relate to all these different characters in our creational drama? C: Some of those characters have been removed from the planet and have been taken to the Central Sun. Some of those characters have been removed from the planet, have crossed over into the light and are now working together with allied forces. As for God the Creator, the Creator is the Source um, no you could call it “God”, “Goddess”— unique beings like all of us is everywhere. And there are beings who have been individualized, came from the same source and went through, they took a different ??? to this creation drama and the purpose is to bring everybody home one way or the other. LE: That’s awesome, I love that answer. And you know, and I think it’s so important that people relate to it that way to be more selfresponsible to shift out of this. Is Lucifer still around? Where do you view his archetypal energy? C: That individual is not present on this planet anymore. LE: Ok. DD: So I was reading something earlier that you’d written about how members of the Resistance have, at the time you wrote it—which I think was a couple years ago—that around 300 had made their way into influential positions to assist in this process. So when we look at what’s going on in the structure of the United States and in our government specifically, should we feel pretty good that maybe some of the people that don’t seem like they’re on board with the evolution —the truest nature for the evolution of humanity—that they are or they’re playing a game or, how does that work? C: I will not answer this question in full I will just say there are agents of the Resistance movement also present in the United States government. DD: And has it, has it… I guess… I mean… so is this something, you know, Obama would be aware of? Or is he just a lost pawn in all of this? C: I will say that people put too much attention to Obama and too much of the emotional investment in Obama—one way or the other. DD: Ok. LE: It’s like a big distraction from what we need to do. So with us reconnecting, much more to extraterrestrial races and the impending threats to the transhumanism agendas how are we going to handle all the different beings and extraterrestrial forces both good and not so good? How are we gonna handle it on a collective level with the introduction of a lot of technologies that might not assist us in our spiritual development? Where are we with things like transhumanism and, you know, connecting with, you know, a lot of mix of races? C: Ok there are a few things to this… number one, there are no more negative threats or races out there. Number two, interaction to extraterrestrial races will be gradual and the first connection with the name of the Pleiadians, because the Pleiadians are very similar to humanity in their outlook. And then, only gradually we will be introduced to other races which don’t look so humanoid. Number three, transhumanism, the movement, is a creation of the Cabal and this movement has no future on this planet. And number four, the technologies, which will be introduced to humanity, are completely aligned and connected and harmonized with spiritual development. LE: And, was there a chance that we weren’t gonna get over this hump? I mean is this a big victory or—I mean, I know that things get delayed and it’s inevitable that the Light wins but… I mean we were in some pretty big danger zones along the way. Can you tell us a little bit about, you know, some of those big hurdles? You know, maybe around the December 21, 2012 day? C: There were some dangerous moments before and no one knew about it. There were very dangerous moments in the late 90’s and shortly after year 2000; and as we passed through those other races survived this but we have a much, much better outlook right now. Situation is so much easier now, then it was even 10 years ago. DD: So am I correct in hearing you say or paraphrasing that there’s no negative alien agenda—that’s all past us? C: I would say there are certain individual beings that have infiltrated the system, that belong to negative alien races. But apart from that, beyond the surface of the planet, everything is clear. There are no negative beings beyond—yes. LE: Excellent. I think I read an article that you wrote right after December 21st about the Archonic grid or the etheric Archonic network —can you tell us a little bit about that? And how that’s being dismantled or how we’re still being affected by, you know, the intrusions to the organic, you know, stargates and the natural openings of stargates and where we are, you know, with all that? I mean it sounds like it’s all being removed but a little bit about what they’ve been trying to do and where we’ve taken it? (73:00) C: It has not been removed yet. There has been great progress in the last two years but the grid itself is still here, it’s still operational in the etheric—I would say, etheric ??? technology which works with scalar waves… and on the nodes of those scalar waves [are] the reptilians operating those machines, and those machines operate out of the black holes. It’s quite a complex structure, which works, um, based on quantum mechanics and scalar technology and much of this has been removed but this technology is still influencing human consciousness… suppressing the operational frequencies of humanity and when this is removed it will be one of the best victories in the last 25,000 years. DD: Wow, ok. Now, so many people, I mean, we’ve go to a lot of these conferences and events… and you’ve got people like Steven Greer and others really promoting extraterrestrial contact for people, and people really chomping at the bit to connect with their extraterrestrial counterparts. What—how does that look in all of this? And why aren’t more people that really say that they want to, unable to have that kind of contact? C: Actually, most of humanity wants to have that kind of contact. We have made a strict poll with many thousands of participants all over the worlds and all the continents and 88% of people said “Yes. We want that contact, we want to be open for it.” But it is the extraterrestrials that will need to initiate that contact—and they will initiate that contact after the event through the volunteers. LE: I mean, there’s still people though experiencing abductions and still experiencing, you know, some level of harassment even though, you know, it seems like these races have been cleared. I mean aren’t there still, you know, invasive energies that people are dealing with on some level? C: Actually most of those abductions have been done by military personnel that, which is, in ties with the Cabal all over the world. The last alien abduction that I know of, happened early last year or two years ago. So um— LE: —It’s ok for—oh go ahead. C: Yeah, there are still some, I would say negative elements within the military all over the planet. They abduct people and they actually program, also an invasion scenario still happening to a certain degree not much but every now and then it tends to happen. LE: I guess, you know what I’m trying to understand too is, the Illuminati and their use of technologies, age reversal, the ability to teleport, the ability to download information to other bodies and all these hidden technologies that have been going on behind our back… what’s the status on how, you know, these technologies are being used because you know, even people are saying that Aleister Crowley is alive now, you know because he’s used and utilized these sort of technologies. C: He isn’t alive anymore and most of those technologies have been taken away from the higher ups in the Illuminati they have very little of this left. They had a lot ten years ago, they had many things but right now, most of those things have been taken from them. LE: Mm hmm… DD: Cobra this all sounds so incredibly positive, and I know you said before you know you can’t stop—the light can’t be stopped so it’s all going to you know, like have a happy ending I guess.. but all that being said, with free will and everything else, what is the greatest challenge for the evolving collective? C: The greatest challenge is to awaken the masses. Because if the masses were awake right now it would be so much easier to liberate the planet. LE: Right. So when it comes to dealing with the physical body currently with some of the insults happening is it something we have to be patient with and something we just need to treat as it comes to our attention you know based on, you know whatever symptoms we experience? I mean, when it comes down to like our children wanting to surf in the oceans or people, you know, still wanting to eat seafood and us still in this human experience, knowing it’s gonna get better… how though, in this time, since we’re not fully activated to be able to handle some of these things, how do we—how is it best that we, you know, deal with these things? You know the food we eat, and the waters that we might swim or not swim in… how can we best manage ourselves as we are currently in our human embodiment? C: You take each situation, one situation at a time and do not listen to your fears, listen to your guidance. For example it’s completely safe to swim in most waters on this planet. I could give you another example but I would say go with your guidance and your guidance will take you where is the best for you and for each individual. LE: But with so many people really unconscious and dealing with things like smart meters and a lot of frequency manipulation—how does one even know what they’re listening to? Whether it’s, you know, something coming through that is giving them a signal that isn’t really their inner voice—what is the best way that people can really tap into the truth that comes from within? Any real techniques that you could suggest to our listeners? I know that meditation and all that is good but anything that you specifically have? C: Each individual has his or her own individual way in how to connect to the Soul. Some people go in nature or walk in nature, some people listen to the music, some people meditate. So it’s a very individual thing that I cannot give a prescription—do this and do that to get that connection. What needs to be there is an inner drive and motivation to get that connection—they need to have that drive. This is the key to awakening and then everything falls—will fall into place. LE: Oh I love that—I love that answer, thank you. DD: What can we do—and when I say we I’m speaking of the, you know, conscious and aware parts of the collective—what can we do to help people, to help people wake up? I mean, this must be a big area of discussion for Michael and the Resistance, is, you know, what can be done because all the conditioning is kind of keeping people asleep. So are there, I know you’re saying it’s different for each person and what’s gonna trigger them but are there things that can help people, like say, in our position or other positions like this where we’re set up to assist the collective at this time? C: It is very good that you are aware that there is a plan on the life forces and it is not a sham that we are speaking right now. It is just one step, one phase in the plan. And if you follow your own individual guidance, you will—the plan will unfold for you and everybody that you will meet. And, then as a collective we are getting closer to the final liberation because the Light forces are always updating and upgrading their plan regarding to the current situation and the decisions of everybody. So it’s a dynamic force, which always finds the optimal solution and the optimal path for everybody involved. LE: So my hope is that real justice will happen. I mean it seems that we’re still dealing with ritual abuse, children abductions, um, you know, Satanic practices that are really invasive and really detrimental to the development of, you know, anybody who has been brought in. How is that all going to be dealt with because with all the hundreds of cops and police forces out there, and the fact that these cases are being brought to their attention and there’s still nothing getting done— what is the real scenario behind the scenes as far as how that’s gonna start to shift so that we can use those that are meant to protect and serve us in a way that will really actually protect and serve us and stop these sort of atrocities? C: This will be dealt with at the event—the event will be also the arrest of the members of the Cabal. I think about thousands and thousands of beings that will be arrested and tried, in fair trials, but they will be removed from the system. And when they are removed from the system the cops will suddenly begin to be more cooperative in many cases, which have not been solved before, will suddenly be solved and things that were happening before will never be allowed to happen again. LE: Do they know that this is upon them? Are they freaking out? You know those that are going to bohemian grove and those that feel that they’ve held power and that are getting away with all this stuff—do they know that their game is almost over? C: It depends—some of them yes, some of them no. There is certain selection processes—those who are more intelligent—some of them who are more intelligent have surrendered already. Because they know that if they surrender sooner they have more favorable positions. Those who are more stupid and are more emotionally reactive those are trying to create as much havoc as possible and they are the ones who will not surrender and they are the ones that will have to be arrested. And some of them are aware, what is waiting for them and some of them, some of them are in a state of denial too. LE: What about, like, super soldiers—you know, humans that have been very modified that are, you know, linked up to machine technologies? What’s the prognosis to their awakening and their process of, you know, healing? And those that have been, you know, dealing with trauma based mind control and some of the serious stuff that’s been passed down with this multigenerational abuse. How do you see, you know, their process unfolding? C: Most of them will get healing only after the event because those kind of people need a very wise, loving and understanding individuals to lead them to the deprogramming process—it is not something that is done easily. And not many therapists now are qualified to deal with such cases. Cause after the event the Resistance Movement will give guidance to counselors and therapists and people who will be skilled in healing those types of individuals in need of assistance. DD: What does the—what is the structure of, like, society look like, after the event? I mean we see how it is now and how, you know, who’s in charge and all this—how does it work after there’s been a shift of consciousness? I mean, I take it, is there gonna be some person in charge or, how does that work? How—what’s the paradigm? C: The basic paradigm is transparency—so it will be a transparent society without hidden agendas. And this will make a basic shift for every human being because there will be enough guidance for everybody. There will be no need for egoism or power struggle. And slowly humanity will change the paradigm into Universal paradigm of brotherhood, sisterhood and love—and this will be the basic paradigm in the new society after the transition is complete. DD: I love that and it sounds great but how does leadership look in this new paradigm then? C: It is a co-creation with the Divine plan—because everybody is aware. They are aware of the oral plan, they are aware of their own position in the plan. They just cooperate with each other and when people are able to maintain a high perspective there is no need for conflict, because everybody understands their role and the role of everybody else. It’s a natural state in all advanced cognitive societies and it’s a natural state where we’re coming from. LE: So I know you touched upon this before but just to further clarify… so, you see the waters and elements of Earth, you know, healing and regenerating more so than us needing to move underground or, you know, linked to a different planet—or even to a higher Earth planet… I mean is there just a real healing happening that we’re seeing this this world right here and right now or are we going to be sent someplace else while the Earth needs time and we need protection from the radiation and the different toxins? C: After the event, and especially after the first contact there will be new technologies introduced that can heal the ecosystem quite easily and (???) LE: Right DD: Ok, this is the place where I step in and say, I mean I love what you’ve been saying and certainly my body barometer is responding very favorably. I’m not constricting, I’m in a state of expansion in my etheric field my body… but give us a little bit more—so, people are listening to this and I’ve gotta feel that our listeners are feeling the same way that I’m feeling. That they’re attracted to the information, it makes them feel good. What’s the real practical advice, starting tomorrow morning when they wake up having digested this broadcast all evening, what’s the next step for them? I mean how do they move through this at a more conscious and aware level? C: I have answered this but I’ll answer it again: Get more informed. You can read—I have written many articles on my blog. Research other sources of internet—get educated and then when you understand the situation take action in your own field. Each of you has specific talents —use those talents to advance the planetary liberation. And when you have a little bit more understanding of what the plan is about you will surely know—you will be guided what to do. DD: So, it’s not about needing to understand everything. If people just focus on what they’re naturally drawn to—where their attention naturally goes and where their passions naturally go, it will unfold from there? Is that what I’m hearing? C: Yes, exactly! Just follow your passion, your own deeper desire, your own—your call to progress, and of course it’s always good to have a, just at least a plain, broad picture of everything and then focus on your own area of guidance or expertise. LE: So, people are talking a lot about the chakra system and how they’re very manipulated. How can we best understand the chakra system during this time? Because we still have them—we can’t necessarily shut them all down, or maybe we can but—how do you see us dealing with these energy centers and what’s the best sort of relationship we can have with them so we can move on to, you know, higher chakras but still, you know, be grounded? C: Actually, chakras are vortexes (?) of energy and in the higher energy body. And for human beings to be balanced and feel good all of them need to be functioning not only the lower ones, not only the higher ones—all the chakras. So basically it’s about covering all elements of your life all aspects of your life and trying to get balanced in all areas of your life and then the chakras will naturally be open and balanced and operational. LE: So when people are, you know, saying that they’re an alien implant and they’re all, you know, manipulative, we should, you know, not fall into the trap of, you know, maybe some belief systems. We should just really, you know, find balance within our self… C: Of course there are things like implants and it’s good to remove them and to have good therapies but the basic thing is to strive to keep balance in your life in every aspect… and most of those things will not be such a problem anymore. LE: And what’s your view on the, the, like a window period for ascension or this movement into higher Earth energy? And if the event supposed to fall within that window period and it doesn’t is there any danger that we will have missed the bus, so to speak? Because we only have a certain time where this is possible based on geophysics and stuff like that? C: The event can happen outside of any window of opportunity, simply that it is more probable that it will happen within the window of opportunity. LE: Ok. DD: And so, what will it take for all of this to become more… mainstream? I mean, because, you know, that must be the next step with all of this… and so, is that something, you know, soon? Because, I just know that even in our own field as we were putting out information about this broadcast, there were more people than I expected that weren’t very familiar with who you are and what the Resistance Movement is about. C: It’s a gradual process—there are cracks inside the system, inside the control of the mass media and through those cracks the truth will start coming out. LE: I work with astrology to assist clients but my main objective is to help free them of the wheel of necessity and the influence of these planetary bodies—is this part of the event—our ability to graduate from having to be so controlled by the planets? C: Actually, you are not controlled by the planets. The Archons are manipulating the energy, which comes from the planet as it approaches, through the veil through the surface of the planet. The Archons are misusing that energy with their technology and this is how the astrological influences work. LE: Right and that’s exactly what I’m trying to— C: —and all this will (?) in the event, it will be gone. LE: That part of it, right and then we can connect with the higher octaves of the planetary energy and be more connected [C: Exactly.] to like the music of the spheres and the harmonics of these energetic bodies… C: Exactly. LE: Ok great. DD: If there’s someone listening, I mean you must run into this, where people, people read your blog, they hear you on the different broadcasts and this and that, and they want to be directly involved with the Resistance, is there an opportunity for people to have that happen or is that just sort of a magical thing that just sort of falls into place when the person’s really ready? C: The Resistance agents do not contact surface population except in very, very rare cases. So I cannot put you in contact with the Resistance. The only thing that will happen if you become more actively involved in the planetary liberation process—you can be involved in certain projects, which are being guided by the Resistance. LE: Can you tell us a little about the planetary consciousness and how She has been coping, you know, the planetary body? And how important it is to co-create with Her? And just sort of, you know, what it means to be an ascending planet and to be linked with that, despite all the different intrusions and insults She’s experienced through technology and the misuse of Her resources? C: Actually the planetary body and the planetary consciousness is in a very unique position. The vibration—actually, this planet was scheduled to ascend already. It has voluntarily delayed Her ascension to give time for humanity to evolve and go through the liberation process so it was a big sacrifice. And there will become a moment when those things cannot be delayed anymore. LE: Right, that really, really resonates… and so, you know, because She’s a multidimensional planet, this is just a portion of Her experience. This is just, almost, the quarantine aspect of Her is to give us a chance to learn from the lessons of duality and return home, and She’s done that as a gift to us. Is that correct? C: Yes, yes. LE: Ahh, thank you. DD: So Cobra, we’ve asked quite a few questions and again, I really have tremendous respect for you and what you’re doing and a lot of that comes from how I’m feeling inside as I’m listening to you. We’re nearing the end of our time… we’ve got about ten minutes left. I wanted to give you the opportunity—I know that there are probably some excellent questions we haven’t asked you that would allow you put out some information that’s very important. Can you just allow yourself to go into that space and bring out anything that we’ve missed? C: Yeah, I will not give out much detail because I do this all the time. I would just like to ask everybody to become more actively involved in the planetary liberation process because most people are just passively reading the blog or they are… in this first phase. I would like more people to go into this second phase of being actively involved and do whatever you can to assist the process because the liberation— the Resistance Movement needs more people on the surface who are active. And when that happens we can accelerate the process more. We have liberation meditations every Sunday—there is a link on my blog on the upper right side with all the information about that. If we can get more people for the meditation every Sunday, that will change things and… as you begin to become more active you will discover that your life becomes more interesting and new options that were not possible before suddenly begin to open. That would be my message to everybody right now. LE: So what do you see with certain races and beings that hold a lot of anger connected to our ancient history and the blowing up of planets and the ones that, you know, are really, you know, angry at the things that went down… you know, obviously understandably but do you see a healing happening that will bring us out of this duality completely? Or on some level is this, you know, duality going to continue because of the inability for all beings to unify? C: Basically, every race that’s into contact with Galactic Light forces is able to ?? and ?? (cut out/inaudible) will happen here. There are certain ??? and large portions of certain races that refuse to cross into the light. Those beings had to be taken to the Central Sun for destruction (instruction?). So one way or the other duality will end and it has to end. This is the error that needs to be corrected—the whole idea of duality, of light and dark, of this polarity—this is the original error that needs to be corrected… and this is what’s happening right now. LE: That’s wonderful. There’s just so many positive things you’ve said and it’s amazing and I have so much appreciation and respect for you and I know that, you know, maybe the dialogue would’ve been different 10, 20 years ago but this is all really excellent news. I think we might have time, you know, for another question… and you said Planet X is not Nibiru—is there a Nibiru? Is there a—I mean, it’s a pretty far away, distant planet, is it not? And who’s on it and who inhabits it at this point? C: Planet X is not Nibiru and Nibiru does not exist, it’s a disinfo campaign, which was sponsored by the Cabal. The actual Planet X is so-called tenth planet, which orbits the sun, in an orbit, which goes further away from Pluto in the Kuiper belt. And there are still many members of the Resistance Movement living in the underground bases below the surface of the planet. The surface of the planet is not actually inhabitable—it’s very cold there; it’s farther away from sun and also some, to the alien and other Light races inhabiting those underground spaces. And that actually was entering the outer reaches of the solar system connecting with other extraterrestrial races and many light ships surrounding that planet… this is one of the bigger portals to enter the solar system. DD: Cobra, I would just like to thank you for taking the time to be on our broadcast and, beyond that, for being so dedicated to this process because it’s really needed… and, so, I appreciate you for that and really honor you. And I also honor the positive over and undertones of the message and what that means for all of us. LE: Yes, thank you so much for joining us this has really been a wonderful interview. Can you give us your website information again— and how to contact you. C: Yes, if you Google “Cobra Portal 2012” you’ll get there. LE: Wonderful. DD: Excellent. Well thank you so much for being with us and we’ll look forward to more contact with you in the future. C: Ok, very good. Thank you all for this opportunity and I would like to say to everybody the liberation is coming very soon and we just need to continue what we are doing and we will be successful. DD: Yes! LE: Yes! DD: Thank you and have a good night. C: Thank you, goodnight. ___________________________________________ This transcript has been provided by Awake in the DREAM Radio. Special Thank YOU to Shakti Kapualani for her transcribing skills. For more information on Awake in the DREAM Radio, and our complete archive (all free), see www.AwakeInTheDREAMRadio.com. We appreciate You and Your Support, Laura Magdalene Eisenhower & Dr. DREAM www.TourOfLOVE.com
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