ASSOCIATION OF DIRECTORS OF ENVIRONMENT, ECONOMY PLANNING
AND TRANSPORT (ADEPT) ENGINEERING COMMITTEE
SOILS AND MATERIALS, DESIGN AND SPECIFICATION GROUP
Wednesday 4th July 2016 at 14:00
TECHNOLOGY CENTRE,
WOLVERHAMPTON SCIENCE PARK, GLASHIER DRIVE,
WOLVERHAMPTON WV10 9RU
Present:
Stephen Child (Chairman)
Steve Betteridge (Secretary)
John Booth (ESG)
Ian Walsh (Road Consultants Ltd)
Keith Field
Peter Clay
John McRobert
ADEPT
Lincolnshire County Council
Dorset County Council
Kent County Council
Cumbria County Council
Cumbria County Council
Northern Ireland Roads Service
Apologies:
Donald Burton
David O'Farrell (PTS)
Andy Stevenson
Bob Noakes
Highways England
Cumbria County Council
Cornwall County Council
Norfolk County Council
Distribution:
All of the above.
Parvis Khansari
Mark Stevens
Andrew Davison
Adept Minutes 04.07.16
Wiltshire Council
Leicestershire County Council
Item
16/23
Action By
Apologies and Welcome
Stephen child Welcomed members to the meeting.
Apologies were received from Bob Noakes, Donald Burton,
David O'Farrell and Andy Stevenson.
Keith Field and Peter Clay were welcomed to the meeting.
Present: Stephen Child (Chairman), John Booth, Ian Walsh,
Keith Field, Peter Clay and Steve Betteridge (Secretary)
Donna James has left Highways England has been replaced by
Arash Khojinian.
David O'Farrell has reduced his working hours and will find
attendance at meetings more difficult in the future.
NOTE
16/24
A) Accuracy Minutes of the SMDs meeting held on
2nd March 2016.
Minutes of the 2nd March 2016 were accepted as correct subject
to:16/08 - Second paragraph final sentence delete "an" and
replace with "a presentation".
16/21 - Second sentence delete "MADS" and replace with
"MARS".
B) Matters Arising from Previous Minutes
16/07 - The Chairman will talk further with John McRobert
about the simplified assessment of Scopes Project.
16/15 - Action is awaited from the BBA
16/25
Chairman
NOTE
16/16 - The Secretary has yet to compile the list of ADEPT
representatives on British Standards and Associated
Committees
Secretary
16/20 - The Secretary will write to Donald Barton for details of
Highways England (HE) research projects and revisions to HE
documents.
Secretary
SMDS Meetings
Parvis Khansari has agreed to write to Directors in ADEPT
about membership of SMDS and Regional Groups.
Parvis
Khansari
The Chairman agreed to contact Alan Fergerson regarding
Scottish representation on SMDS.
Chairman
John McRobert announced his resignation from SMDS. John
was thanked for his support and contributions to the Group over
many years. John hopes a replacement Northern Ireland
representative will attend in future.
It was also reported a corresponding member from Wales is
being sought.
Chairman
Chairman
It was agreed a letter should go to ADEPT Directors to
encourage membership of the Regional Soils and Materials
Engineer Groups.
NOTE
The Chairman explained ADEPT new Corporate Membership.
Discussion ensued about corporate members attending SMDS
and other similar groups. It was agreed any such corporate
attendees would be expected to make informed contributions to
such groups.
Chairman
The Chairman agreed to write to Hampshire County Council
about Colin Morris's replacement.
NOTE
Discussions also included consideration of improved liaison with
such organisations as CIHT, TAG various contractors
associations and the like.
16/26
ADEPT Annual Workshop
The Workshop Event will be held on 5th July 2016.
Themes considered for this workshop were:1) The Midland Highway Alliance.
2) Innovation
3) RSTA Treatment Workshop
4) Road Note 39 update
5) Water and Highways
6) Skid resistance policies
Attendance was expected to be about twenty.
16/27
16/28
ADEPT/MPA Joint Meeting
The Secretary agreed to contact Malcolm Simms to establish if
there are particular topic MPA members would like to discuss.
Secretary
The next meeting is at 14:00 on 5th October 2016 at the MPA's
offices, Victoria, London.
NOTE
Research Projects
The UK Roads Liaison Group (UKRLG) is now organizing
research rather than ADEPT. This group is considering a
proposal for a Highway Deterioration Model.
The Chairman agreed to e-mail information about a footway
research project to the Secretary.
NOTE
Chairman /
Secretary
16/29
ADEPT/RSTA Joint Meeting
A joint meeting with the RSTA had taken place earlier in the
day. Topics discussed included:
Sonny Singh is now RSTA Chairman with Dave Stannard as
Vice Chairman.
NOTE
The acceptance of corporate members by ADEPT.
Secretary
The need for new members of ADEPT Groups.
Presentations were given on Ironwork Installation and Asphalt
Preservation.
A Code of Practice on Grouted Macadam is being produced.
The Signing of Surface Dressing Sites Code has been rewritten.
SMDS will discuss the RSTA Codes of Practice at their next
meeting.
16/30
Secretary
UK PLG
John Booth reported UKPLG is concerned about the delays in
republishing revised HE documents.
Series 800 is being rewritten to align with the revised HD25 with
the emphasis on end product requirements.
The need for guidance to ADEPT members on the use of light
weight deflectometers was supported.
NOTE
Donna James is leaving HE and will be replaced, at least
temporarily by Arash Khojinian.
It was also reported:
HD38 should now be available.
HD37 is some way from publication
HD51 should be published in 2016
Roller compacted concrete is to be included in 1000 Series
The use of Mastic Asphalt is undergoing a resurgence
UKPLG next meets on 29th September 2016
16/31
ADEPT Engineering Committee
The DfT is seeking a robust methodology to quantify the backlog
of highway maintenance.
NOTE
A fund of £185 million has been made available to flood affected
NOTE
authorities.
Consideration is being given to adding footway and cycleway
lengths to the highway length formula.
NOTE
Version 3 of Well Maintained Highways is nearly ready.
NOTE
Cumbrian CC is using a video method of deterioration modeling.
The Chairman agreed to ask Andy Stevenson about the views
of the Pavement Assessment Group members on deterioration
modeling.
Chairman
The HE Area 7 has moved to the revised network management
approach of client delivery with more direct management of
works.
Mark Stevens of Suffolk gave a presentation on their defects
matrix process.
The Chairman agreed to send the Engineering Board's and
SMDS's terms of reference for the Secretary.
16/32
ADEPT Highway Sustainable Group
No meetings have taken place recently.
16/33
Chairman
NOTE
High PSV Tack Group
This is on hold pending further work by the HE and MPA on PV
and Friction After Polishing.
16/34
Friction after Polishing
See 16/33 above.
16/35
BBA / HAPAS
High Friction Surfacing - The BBA website reports typical
service lines for HFS of 8 to 12 years.
PTS is seeking conduct accreditation some techniques currently
conducted by BBA.
16/36
Members were advised to check the dates of BBA certification
as they are revised every 5 years, without the revision being
advertised. This could result in contractual issues.
Feedback from ADEPT Representatives on:-
NOTE
B 510/1 - Asphalt Products
BS 594987 and PD 6691 are being reviewed to accommodate
elements of Sector Scheme 14, which is now defunct.
Additionally some amendments are required to the documents.
BS7533 – Pavements constructed with clay, natural stone or
concrete pavers.
The Draft of BS7533-102 Installations is complete and awaits
completion of BS7533-101 Design. Part 101 is taking longer
than expected to be signed off by committee members . The two
documents should then be published concurrently.
NOTE
B510/2 – Surface treatments.
PD6689 Surface Treatments is being revised. BS1707 –
Surface Dressing Sprayers is being re-formatted as the Depot
Tray Test.
B510/1a and B434 – Part 2 – Catonic Emulsions is being rewritten.
The Secretary is compiling a list of ADEPT members services
on BSi Committees.
16/37
Secretary
Geotechnical Asset Group Forum
The last meeting was at BGS, Kegworth. The meeting included
a presentation of a paper on the identification of third parties
that can affect geotechnical infrastructure.
NOTE
NOTE
The PRIME ground sensing programme was demonstrated,
including a site visit to illustrate its potential.
16/38
Sam Wells of Lincolnshire County Council is attending the
Group as the Northern representative.
Newsletter
The following articles were suggested:Local Highway Authority use of the Light Weight Deflectometer
- Steve Betteridge.
Updated ADEPT/RSTA Codes of Practice - Stephen Child
and RSTA.
BS7533 – Pavements Constructed with Clay, Natural Stone or
concrete Pavers and Sector Scheme 13 - Things that go
wrong. - Ian Walsh.
DfT/HE contribution - Donald Barton / Arash Khojinian.
Road Note 39 - Steve Betteridge.
In addition it was suggested articles on the following topics
would be beneficial:
Skid Resistance.
Guidance on the use of Geosynthetics.
The value of good site and "as built" records.
Guidance on the use of the Deflectograph and Light Weight
Deflecometer for pavement evaluation.
16/39
HMEP
The HMEP Specification and Standard Contract documents are
being updated. Hampshire CC is working on these.
The Chairman agreed to write to Hampshire to establish the
details of this update.
16/40
Chairman
Highways Agency Issues / updates / IAN's
In the absence of Donald Barton topics under the this item were
discussed under other agenda items, where possible.
The Secretary will write to Donald requesting details of revisions
to HA documents and information about any HA research
projects.
16/41
Information Exchange
Pavement evaluation by use of deflectograph and falling weight
deflectometer was raised. It was agreed Andy Stevenson would
be asked to provide guidance on the Local Highway Authority
pavement evaluations.
16/42
Secretary
Chairman
It was suggested the Methylene Blue Test should be able to
identify the presence of weak aggregates.
NOTE
It was agreed production of the SMDS paper on Network
Resilience be held until the revised Well Maintained Highways
Guidance is published when the contents of the paper will be
reviewed.
NOTE
With the retirement of a number of key individuals from TRL it
was agreed our next meeting would review membership of
SMDS, including further consideration of corporate members
and any individuals proposed for membership.
SMDS
Members were asked if clients were conducting quality control
on works. The pattern was reported to be variable with few
exercising this discipline.
NOTE
A.O.B
Members were asked to check their libraries files and other
reporting documents to identify those County Surveyors Society
and ADEPT documents they have.
ALL / SMDS
This is to enable a review to be conducted by SMDS to
determine which advise should be:
 Archived
 Republished on the ADEPT Website in its present form
 Revised and republished
Date and Place of Future Meetings:
The date of the next meeting is 1st November 2016 at the LGA,
London.
Chairman