Egyptian ruler General Abd al- Fattah al-Sisi is a Jew

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Paola Manduca
May 1, 2014 10:40 AM
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Dear all
Beside the fact that I do not dismiss necessarily the eventual (that I cannot prove) impact of being
raised as belonging to a “blood determined” religious group with ethnic and racist background and
imperialist and genocidal in the context of Palestine
[and dismissing the level of the responses in this list that grant supremacy of the individual in the
choices of his life (ref to Harsh) …or the trashy commentaries (ref to Ran) or the generic comment
that Sissi politics should be criticized, which is not the issue of this conversation (ref to Sukai),
I assume the only answer is in Sissi actions (his politics in terms of ideology can be next discussed)
even only from when he become the “saver of the country”.
Closure of Gaza and destruction of life lines for supplies = total dependence from Israel of the Gaza
Strip, for health, food, supplies, circulation. Inclusive of a zone of full visibility and of no passage all
around on the border and block of circulation of Egyptians in the Sinai. An closure of the passenger
border lasting stretches of 30-40 days at each time, beside the routine imprisonment of any less than
40 man that would manage to go across to reach abroad, from border to airport).
Out lawing of all dissidents of any relevance, Muslim and not, using constrictive, murderous and illegal
and illegitimate extreme use of force and of new and old laws (this too needs much more
conversations).
Increase in the military expenses. Buying and obtaining weaponry for internal control (regardless of
any verbal statement) from US and Saudi Arabia (et al), thus from the best and exclusive allies of
Israel and of tools for intelligence directly from Israeli.
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Lack of any initiative to approach the issues of economic and social needs of the country, including
disregard for workers, professionals requests, let alone the disinterest towards the large majority of
people in Egypt with no revenues, work or access to any service, and for the large sectors of national
revenues of agriculture and tourism (One could question where this government is getting the money
from, an other good topic for further studies and conversation).
What is the contest in which this is happening? Successful destruction/ impoverishment, depopulation
of the other two richest and most solid North African countries, Syria and Lybia and consequent
internal fragmentation and impossible load for the countries that receive the refugees. A price that will
be paid from the people of these countries for many years ahead. Not to forget Iraq.
But Egypt is to populated for such interventions and anyhow comes from a Mubarack era, which is not
ended because the same people are still in the same positions of power most all over (see the
judiciary, the military and industrial complex), and which has rooted a corruption/interest system that
can still be a pillar of power. So it would be sensible to have a strategy to keep it subdued by different
means and use the baby bottle to feed the regime, excluding anybody that may interfere because
independent form that life line, and binding it to the chariot.
There is not a single act of Sissi that disclaims the claim of him being an Israeli partner (in whatever
uniform or plain clothes), regardless if he is led by his “organic belonging” to Mossad or Jewish
religion, which may be need additional proofs that may come only with ex-post explanations and
history.
It is a matter of facts that he is doing exactly as if he was belonging there, coherently, perseveringly
and with insistence and with the applause of the parties in question, primarily US, Israel and S.A. & c..
This applause in itself is translated in facts: contracts, supply of weapons for internal deterrence,
special investments from these sides (regardless of democracy and human rights talk).
I guess this is the answer to the doubts.
We can go on deepening the conversation on the other issues.
stay well
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Jai Sen <[email protected]> wrote:
Thursday, 1 May 2014
Worlds in movement, worlds of movement…
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‘Egyptian ruler General Abd al-Fattah al-Sisi
is a Jew’
Is this really true ?
I am forwarding this post not as a comment on whether the ruler of Egypt should or should
not be of a religion other than Islam, but because of what seem immediately to me to be the
enormous implications of this, for Egypt and for the region, and for the movements for democracy
and justice in the region. Not to speak of the allegation here that he is a Mossad agent.
Can someone comment on this, and add some light ?
JS
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Monday, September 16th, 2013 | Posted by Kevin Barrett
Jewish Al-Sisi Runs Egypt; Now an IsraeliOccupied Territory
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/16/al-sisi-jew/
The Greater Israel Project – a longstanding Zionist scheme to steal all the
land between the Nile and the Euphrates –
is halfway there.
They just stole the Nile.
The problem is not that Egypt’s new
thug-in-chief, General Abd al-Fattah
al-Sisi, is a Jew. (His mother,
Malikah Titani, is a Moroccan Jew
from Asefi, which makes al-Sisi a
Jew and an automatic citizen of
Israel.)
If the Egyptian people want to elect a Jew president in a free and fair
election – like they elected the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) to the Lower
House with 73% of the vote, the Upper House with 80% of the vote, the
presidency with 52% of the vote, and approved the MB Constitution with
64% of the vote – that’s fine with me.
The problem is that al-Sisi has concealed his Jewish identity and Israeli
connections from the Egyptian people…and destroyed their nascent
democracy through deception and mass murder.
An even bigger problem: al-Sisi is almost certainly a Mossad agent. That
means al-Sisi’s Egypt is not just a brutal, banana-republic-style dictatorship.
It is Israeli-occupied territory: The newest and largest province of everexpanding Greater Israel.
No wonder the Israeli ambassador called al-Sisi “a national hero for all
Jews.”
Al-Sisi’s uncle, Uri Sibagh (sometimes spelled as Sabbagh) served in the
Jewish Defense League (Hamagein) from 1948 to 1950, made his aliyah
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to Israel, and became a bigwig in Ben Gurion’s political party, serving as
the secretary of the Israeli Labor Party in Beersheba from 1968 to 1981.
Uri’s sister – al-Sisi’s mother – presumably emigrated to Egypt on a
mission from the Mossad. That mission culminated when the Mossad
overthrew President Morsi and installed its agent al-Sisi in the coup d’état
of July 3rd, 2013.
The implication: Al-Sisi has been a lifelong Mossad agent. His mission:
infiltrate the highest levels of power in an Arab Muslim country. Al-Sisi is
today’s version of Elie Cohen, who infiltrated the highest levels of power in
Syria under the name Kamal Amin Thabet before he was exposed and
hanged in the public square in Damascus.
George H.W. Bush’s famous line, “If the people knew the truth, they would
chase us down the street and lynch us” applies – in spades – to al-Sisi.
It has been widely reported in the mainstream media, as well as by more
reliable sources, that al-Sisi has long served as the Egyptian military’s
liason with Israel. During the coup d’état of July 3rd, al-Sisi was in
permanent liason by telephone with the Israeli and American militaries.
(Israel promised its full support, and guaranteed that US aid would not be
cut off, while the US waffled.)
The Egyptian coup, especially its propaganda component, had all the
earmarks of an Israeli black op. A massively financed campaign run
through Egypt’s Israeli-linked mainstream media (yes, the same folks own
big media there as here) repeatedly compared President Morsi to Adolf
Hitler! The fact that “Morsi = Hitler” was the number one talking point of the
forces behind the coup reveals that those forces were Zionists, not
Egyptians. Apparently the Zionists couldn’t stop themselves from making
reflexive Dr. Strangelove-style anti-Hitler salutes while they were
orchestrating the al-Sisi coup – thereby giving their game away.
Since the coup, Israel has been lavishing praise, money, and support on
al-Sisi. Mossad agent al-Sisi has virtually declared war on Palestine by
going all-out to close the Gaza border tunnels that keep the people of
Gaza alive. Meanwhile, al-Sisi has taken billions of dollars from the
Rothschild puppets and likely donmeh crypto-Jews who call themselves
the “House of Saud.”
Obviously the Zionist-dominated West and its Middle Eastern puppets will
not allow Muslims to elect relatively honest leaders in free elections.
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Instead, they will use deception and violence to pursue their schemes for
regional and global domination.
The Egyptian people – who elected the Muslim Brotherhood by a greater
landslide than any US political party has won in all of American history –
need a real Islamic revolution to create a genuine democracy. Without it,
Egypt will indefinitely remain “a boot stamping on a human face –
forever”…and a permanent province of Greater Israel, ruled by a JewishZionist thug who has appointed himself pharaoh, while hiding his real
background and loyalties.
Israeli ambassador calls Al-Sisi a "national
hero for all Jews"
Friday, 19 July 2013 17:25
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/6617-israeli-ambassador-calls-al-sisi-aqnational-hero-for-all-jewsq
The Israeli ambassador in Cairo has told a minister in the interim
government that the people of Israel look upon General Abdul-Fattah AlSisi as a "national hero". According to Israel Radio, the ambassador rang
Agriculture Minister Ayman Abu-Hadid to congratulate him on his new post
and said, "Al-Sisi is not a national hero for Egypt, but for all Jews in Israel
and around the globe."
Israel is looking forward to the launch of new relationships with Egypt, said
Yaakov Amitai, as well as joint efforts in the war on terror. His mention of
"terror" is understood to be an oblique reference to President Mohamed
Morsi’s supporters protesting against the coup which removed him from
office.
The two men agreed on the resumption of the work of the Supreme
Egyptian-Israeli Agricultural Committee. Meetings of the committee are
held alternately in Cairo and Tel Aviv every six months. They also agreed to
reactivate the Egyptian branch of the Future Leaders Network, which
includes Egyptian, Jordanian, Palestinian and Israeli youths.
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