General Council Meeting
April 12, 2016
7:06 Roll1
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Vince Moita, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury,
Jason Morales, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Lucas Yeung, Tom Russell, Alane Wall, Samuel Chang,
Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Tomas
Ditrych, Nicholas Raimondo, Celia Guzman
Absent: Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Keith Yetter, Ronnie Shou, Monica Brock,
Sean Larson, Matthew Olhausen
7:09 Public Comment
Ryan Brodovsky: FYI, Please know this is being recorded,
Nicholas Lansdown: Anyone else public Comment
Mike Khoury: 3L party is tomorrow- it’s been publicized – last year we didn’t hear about it, the
lower class students were invited but no one actually got an invitation, so this year we created a
Facebook event and I sent out an email to the entire school this morning. 1Ls, 2Ls MSL and
LLM reps it is your responsibility to spread the word to your students at this point. Tomorrow at
8:30 come early for drinks. It’s at Audio.
Alane Wall: There is confusion among 1Ls for what the common question for statutory classes
actually involves. Nick had said he would get out some kind of email so 1Ls are informed as to
what the common question for these classes involves.
Nicholas Lansdown: This comes from the legislation class. Students are unsure if the statutory
question on the exam will be the same for all statutory classes, or if the statutory question will be
individualized for each particular class. Asks Leeja to speak on it more
Leeja Patel: Not sure of question.
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Note- minutes were taken by Ryan Brodovsky and not Carlia Suba as she was out. These minutes took countless
hours to finish and the Secretary position does this biweekly, which is quite an impressive feat given the difficulty of
taking the minutes. Bravo Carli for all your work this semester, I am astounded how you got them done without the
aid of any recording.
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Alane Wall: Clarifies it. Does each professor teaching a 1L statutory class get to make 100% of
their exam, or is one question made by the school for all 1Ls to answer no matter which statutory
class they took?
Leeja Patel: Usually it’s a common question, but I will get back to you.
Alane Wall: 1Ls are unsure
Jonathan Clark: Last year, there was 1 common essay question regarding statutory analysis – but
1Ls don’t worry. Your professor will be the person grading it so the professor will grade you
based on what you were taught.
Leeja Patel: It’s never been a problem before
George Croton: Takacs said no common question
Andrew Levad: Ask your professor tomorrow instead of here and now, that is the most obvious
solution.
Alane Wall: We asked our professor but he was unsureLeeja Patel: I will follow up.
Nicholas Lansdown: Anybody have anything else?
Nicholas Lansdown: Today was our Day in Sacramento, which is why I was 5 minutes late. I
was parking the car. We went to lobby in Sacramento on behalf of the school. Our ask was to
fully fund HPILF grants for public interest students, and to approve the governor’s budget. We
were able to convey that we would like more money for HPILF; about $250,000, so that is
something they will consider when they talk to their staff members when they consider the
Hastings budget. It probably won’t be on Hastings side of the budget until next year’s fiscal
budget request so that’s something in the future we are lobbying for in finances.
Vince Moita clarifies the number as $250,000
Nicholas Lansdown: Yup
E-Board Reports
Ryan Brodovsky: Dodgeball finals happening soon, probably 19th or 20th. That’s it
Nicholas Lansdown: Perfect
Vince Moita: Getting ready for tonight, I prepared a resolution that is subject to approval, similar
to how the budgeting process is done. I went to the resolutions made available on Saturday and
made a tentative budget for that, as well as a separate resolution fund for orgs not granted
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money. The purpose is that 1) all the ASUCH members here have to approve it through the
traditional methods, but there is an additional amount available if your organization was not
granted money through this budget. In addition to that, I’d like a make a motion to have that
resolution be heard first once we are hearing resolutions. The reason for this is to make this
meeting more productive and efficient. There are 14 resolutions on the table tonight and this will
take care of 12 of them. That’s the end of my report.
Sammie Acuna: No report, but it has been a good year so thank you everyone
Ryan Brodovsky on behalf of Carlia Suba: Send in your ASUCH service hours. You have taken
a leadership role on campus this is part of the requirements. I know you have done them but
make sure you send them in. Thank you.
Nicholas Lansdown: The tower gym got a new treadmill and by the end of next semester, there
will 2 water fill stations one in the second floor of the 200 building, and on the second floor of
the 198 building having 198
Sam Micon: Did you talk to Sonny about putting one in the gym?
Nicholas Lansdown: I can.
Minutes
Nicholas Lansdown: First set of minutes will be emergency minutes conducted. Any objections
to passing the march 21st minutes.
Samuel Chang Move to approve
Christian Urbano Seconds
No objections,
Passes
March 29 minutes
Mike Khoury: I sent an email about my concerns and I am unsure if they have been addressed.
Nicholas Lansdown: The minutes are the same as distributed out from Monday.
Christian Urbano: March 29 says I was present, But I was not.
Vince Moita: We have a right to know what the changes to the minutes will be before they are
published
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Mike Khoury: I was quoted for saying something, which was out of context, and I wanted
clarification.
Nicholas Lansdown: The clarification was why does BLSA want that much, I believe $3,500
Mike Khoury: Something along the lines of, I think Ryan said BLSA requested $3,500 for
graduation and my response to it a couple lines down was do you think BLSA deserves that kind
of funding for cultural graduation. And I wanted to be clear about them.
Ryan Brodovsky: I propose approving the March 29 minutes along with April 12th minutes via
email in the same manor we did for the last fall meeting because they worked well.
* Nicholas Lansdown highlights email Mike was referencing, “Page 13 says, ‘Mike Khoury: Do
you really think that BLSA deserves that kind of money?’ this can be taken out of context. I was
responding to Ryan’s earlier comments about BLSA requesting $3,500 for cultural graduation,
which is omitted from the minutes. Can you please fix this? Maybe adding Ryan’s comments
and editing my comment to the following: ‘Do you really think BLSA should get $3,500 for
cultural graduation?’
Nicholas Lansdown says quoted text is what Mike Khoury wants changed. Asks if anyone
wishes to approve with the suggested change by email.
Move to approve March 29th minutes with Mike’s changes
Vince Moita motion,
Samuel Chang seconds
No objections
Minutes pass with changes quoted above
Samuel Chang: we need to make the motion to approve the minutes for this meeting.
Nicholas Lansdown: Because this will be our last ASUCH meeting (WAHOO) Carli asked the
GC to vote to tentatively approve the minutes for this meeting subject to getting feedback by
Friday.
Ryan Brodovsky & Vince Moita voice disapproval – Vince asks for 2 weeks.
Samuel Chang: Move to approve minutes with revision date of 2 weeks of this time- Nicholas
Lansdown changes to April 20 to send changes.
Samuel Chang motions for it is as seconded
Second-??
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*Nicholas Lansdown clarifies as Samuel Chang seconds; however, this is not the case after
reviewing the audio notes. Samuel Chang motions and an unknown person seconds. Nicholas
Lansdown entertains a call for a motion. See 23:28*
Committee Reports:
Samuel Chang: Curriculum committee
Now that the faculty retreat is done, I can talk about these proposals. Dean asked faculty to write
a white paper on these 6 proposals:
1) Change from 13 week semester to 14 week starting in fall of 2017
2) Increase credit for civ pro and contracts and remove con law
3) Change 1L rules to force legal analysis in conjunction with moot court
4) Requiring a bottom percent to take all upper division bar courses
5) Discuss development of advisory guidelines of course coverage across 1L
courses – basically telling all professors to teach the exact same topics
6) Moving moot court to 2nd year
All proposals were talked about and debated heavily and none of them passed so that’s where we
are at now it’s still an ongoing discussion that may be resumed later in the year but now that the
retreat is done, I am allowed to talk about it.
Nicholas Lansdown: For clarity purposes, I sent email to faculty to say that the faculty shouldn’t
be anticipating what student concerns would be without actually asking students to get their
viewpoint on the changes that administration is proposing to make. They were heavily debated
and apparently a lot of student sentiment came into play and some of the professors and faculties
viewpoints articulated that they shouldn’t be taking a step guessing what students want without
actually coming to students and asking what they want in their curriculum so there’s that. Back
to you Sammy.
Samuel Chang: The second committee report would be the public safety taskforce I believed I
would come back from Sacramento earlier to make the presentation but I didn’t. Here in my
hand is the entire public safety report *hold very large stack of paper in the air* as well as 10
years of budget reports. Also, I am filing an opinion with the California attorney general about
the penal code for 830.4(c) clarification, and we filed a public safety report on the security
consulting report that was done 2-3 years ago. That’s where we are.
Samuel Chang: And the third one for student fee’s task force, we haven’t done much more on it
because we have been working on public safety.
Jonathan Clark: On public safety, can you talk about the wrong numbers coming out. After the
report from last time, there was a meeting with Dean Faigman and the officers. I’ve heard the
officers saying the numbers were all wrong and what the school is saying is a lie.
Samuel Chang: What the officers believe is that the school was putting in overhead costs into the
overall costs they agree 1.7 million was part of the overhead cost including things not public
safety and I’m trying to get to the bottom of this and that’s why I have a line by line item with
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me in my hand and I will go through it to see exactly what’s going on. The funny thing is that
both the school and public safety officers are correct because I calculated them, the question is
where or not the overhead should be a part of public safety or not and that’s the debate that is
going on.
Samuel Chang: School thinks officers were putting in overhead costs – but has line-by-line item
the numbers of both are correct question is if overhead costs should be a part of calculation
*Green Campus Task Force presentation made by Sam Micon and George Croton- however
they speak intermittently so I may be wrong about who said what.*
Sam Micon: Hello everyone I’m Sam this is George, and we are future 2L reps and also the chair
and co-chair of the green campus task force.
George Croton: We wanted to update you on what we’ve been doing and we feel like we’ve been
doing some cool stuff and have some cool things lined up next semester.
George Croton: To start out here is language of what was approved
*see Prezi Intro- https://prezi.com/7n7nihv-twwf/hastings-green-campus/*
First we have an official board. Jackie, Kaleigh is here and obviously Sammy is our ASUCH
liaison and Karim Troost is helping us out in sustainable technology that may be worth looking
into and introducing to Hastings. We have a lot of members and interested folks.
Sam Micon: We’ve been working with Kasey Asberry, who is the director of sustainability,
David Seward on introducing sustainability initiatives on the LRCP. Kasey is also writing the
EIR report, which will be critiqued on Thursday at 10am in the demonstration gardens.
George Croton: So we’ve met with David Seward, he came and spoke in our first meeting and
gave background on LRCP, and Sam is now sitting on LRCP student committee, very exciting,
and he can relay concerns of the taskforce back to LRCP committee.
Sam Micon: We’ve done a gardening day with Kasey with a goal of having the law café patio
done by the current 3L’s graduation. Had a nice meeting and roundtable of the taskforce,
coordinated with Nancy
Stewart to get pro-bono hours for taskforce work.
Ryan Brodovsky: I want to clarify, that’s pro-bono and NOT community service.
Sam Micon and George Croton: Both
Ryan Brodovsky: They are different
George Croton: You can get either. So for the projects, we are working on need to have a legal
aspect and we have things in the works to get that. I think it’s worth noting that 25% of your
service hours can be community service. Kasey has set up a taskforce website under the
Hastings website. We had a cool meeting with a Hawaiian company aimed at energy
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consumption management in big buildings like ours, Idis technologies. We have a lot of
members on the Facebook group, which is nice, and we had a good turnout for our first meeting,
which is really cool.
George Croton: For the long term, 1) the water bottle fill up stations. This is a pet project of
mine, I don’t like plastic water bottles and so we’re trying to procure funding to getting water
bottles for Hastings students. We reached out to BKR water bottles, which are Hastings Alums,
nothing set in stone yet.
Sam Micon: And my pet project is composting, I want free composting bins for every resident in
the tower and I’ll be meeting with Pansy sometime next week to go over this.
George: continue researching sustainable technologies, continue gardening and we want to
increase people’s presence in the demonstration gardens; it’s a place people don’t know about
and its school property so we want to host a BBQ and have events down there.
Nicholas Lansdown: Any questions, comments, concerns?
Christian Urbano: Do you know tentatively what your budget will be next semester?
George Croton: We don’t really have a budget, one of the nice things is that we’ve been
receiving funding from David Seward, we had funding to provide food for the Cesar Chavez
event and we want to do this going forward. We may have to come to ASUCH for other funding
but we want to keep going to Seward.
Jehmima Carril: This student housing is a little bit different for every apartment so it should be
free.
Sam Micon: Yea, and that’s why we should already have it.
Leeja Patel: People were using compost bins before that they got through recology, but students
were not using them for the right purposes so city got really mad, so think about those things
before talking with Pansy. But I agree with you, but we’ve had them in the past and it didn’t go
well.
Sam Micon: Was it a common misuse of the buckets?
Leeja Patel: Enough that I think tower management said we won’t be responsible for misuse
going forward. Let’s talk after.
George Croton: The other issue there revolves around city ordinances that we have to be in
compliance with which ties to another goal of ours, which is general education and teaching
people how to effectively compost
Tomas Ditrych: I’m glad we approved you’ll have done a great job within 1 month, amazing!
Vince Moita: Second, what Tomas said, great work.
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Samuel Chang: Being the ASUCH member, I want to commend you for getting Seward to come
to nearly all your meetings, working with Kasey, Alex Shapiro and getting on the twitter and
Instagram, and the fact that you all are a great face for Hastings around the tenderloin as well as
Kaleigh here who is part of the board.
Sam Micon: I need to admonish all of you because all the food from two weeks ago was
recycled and composted incorrectly seriously guys you can all do better that that.
Jehmima Carril: I want to point out that this is what I was afraid of, a recycling police, I say that
light heartedly, but no one wants the recycling police, you can educate us but don’t be scold nonrecyclers
Resolutions
Starting with Mike Khoury’s resolution, which was tabled from last time.
Vince Moita: I’d like motion to reorder how we rehear resolutions tonight
Christian Urbano seconds,
Mike Khoury objects
Vince Moita: The intent of resolution that I passed was to create a tentative budget that would be
subject to all of your approval and the reason I wanted to do it was because I had the ability to
look at all resolutions at one time and was able to approach it more holistically instead of piece
mail. By approving the budget, I submitted it would take care of essentially 12 of the 14
resolutions submitted, saving time, efficiency and you still have the opportunity to vote on it,
amend it, and it will be more streamlined of a process.
Mike Khoury: Can we see what you put forth?
Ryan Brodovsky: Let me understand, if we accept this motion and pass your resolution that
assigns a dollar amount to 12 of the 14 resolutions. There still is additional money that each of
the 12 could ask for in addition to what you’ve offered here if its less than what they’ve asked
for so we can get out of here before 11. I like that
Mike Khoury: Thank you for doing this, here’s my concern, if we disagree, then we have to get
into the substance of each org’s resolution
Tomas Ditrych: Can we see resolution before voting on it, because it will influence the other
resolutions.
Vince Moita: The motion on the table is just to look at my resolution first, so if we do pass it, it
takes care of everything in the forefront, but if it doesn’t pass, then we take care of it piece mail,
in the normal order if it doesn’t pass.
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Samuel Chang: Clarification- this is to hear Vince’s resolution first?
Vince Moita: Yes, it would be the first one to be heard, and it sounds like everyone wants to see
it before we go forward.
Mike Khoury withdraws objection
No objections*Vince Moita’s resolution is heard first*
Vince Moita: When making this resolution I realized there was a need for oversight since there
were 14 resolutions tonight. If we went 1 at a time we would be limited in scope because we
wouldn’t be looking at the whole picture so I made this under my purview I looked through
resolutions submitted on Saturday and made a tentative budget subject to approval. Since there
was a shift in how we would treat the reserve fund and the rest of the resolution fund and we
want to provide the most for the most people, this would approve the specified amount and the
idea behind this is to approve money for things we probably would have been approved.
* Vince Moita’s budget provides 3Ls, HISA, HAYA, ALSA, LLM, IVO, ILSA, MELSA, &
OUTLAW funding in full, but provides KALSA and HPILF nothing. BLSA submitted their
budget on time but was not sent to Vince to add to this list. Resolutions submitted after the
deadline were not considered here either.*
Vince Moita: When we had spring fling, we asked all orgs to submit their resolutions for
reimbursement for last semester by a set date, which increased our accounts payable by
$5413.56. Not many came through so the amount was used to supplement the amount we
allocated for spring fling. We needed 2K more for spring fling to make it a viable event. The
event cost $12,900, and we recouped $7,450. A difference of about $5,000 so we were OK in
terms of what was available. In terms of what is remaining, we had $5,985 in reserve fund as
well as $3,985 in resolution fund. If this is approved, it will satisfy the resolution requests of 12
of the 14 resolutions. And leave us $1,249 in the resolution fund to hear KALSA, and HPILF
and the emergency resolutions. And we would still have $5985 in reserve fund.
Mike Khoury: Can we dig into the reserve fund today?
Vince Moita: We could dip in for the additional amount asked for.
Audience Member: Are you reserving any money for next year at all or is this everything?
Vince Moita: I’d like to reserve the $5,985 for next year but if there is a need to dip into that as
an emergency fund if we think that is necessary.
Same member: So that is everything?
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Vince Moita: Everything would be $7,234 to spend on the remaining resolutions
Nicholas Lansdown: Point of clarification: does this take into consideration of outstanding funds
allocated?
Vince Moita: no that money that was saved for emergency situations
Jonathan Clark: When you made this list, how much did you deviate from the standards you
applied throughout the year?
Vince Moita: the 3Ls section event was a new thing not approved before; HISA’s event is a new
event as a cultural graduation, which would have been approved through the budgeting process.
KALSA put my name as a sponsor and I didn’t sponsor them so I didn’t support it, but we can
hear that through resolution. HAYA would have been allocated the amount for their panel.
ALSA would increase by $125 but I’ll have to check. LLMs is unique and is less than what we
gave for cultural graduations. IVP is for Dodgeball, the ball trophies, tape and cones. ILSA
would have received what they asked for if they did it through the budgeting process.
Sammy AlShatti: ILSA is doing a combined graduation with MELSA so it’s even less.
Audience member: Is ILSA and MELSA asking for the amounts combined,
Sammy AlShatti: No that MELSA event is a different event.
Vince Moita: HPILF didn’t get approved because it was such a big amount and was more
appropriate for discussion. Any additional questions?
Ryan Brodovsky: BLSA is not on list but I want to be clear they submitted their resolution on
time so it was not sent out late. They asked for 400, they did everything they were supposed to
do, it was through our error they didn’t make this list so please don’t take their lack of allocation
against them.
Vince Moita: What we could do to be fair and equitable, we gave outlaw 200, so we can give
KALSA and BLSA 200 for cultural graduation, which also follows the resolution we passed
related to cultural graduation. So, after we add that extra money that leaves us with 849 in
resolution fund and the full 5,985 in reserves if this is approved.
Jonathan Clark: To clarify- we approve this, this is the basic, but people can come up to ask for
more money.
Vince Moita: Yes, the only orgs affected in that way are KALSA, HPILF and BLSA. This
knocks out 9 resolutions
Tomas Ditrych: I think this is a great idea and I support approving this, it will make for a much
easier night
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Tomas Ditrych moves to pass Vince Moita’s budget modified to add BLSA and KALSA
receiving $200 in addition to what is described above
Mike Khoury Seconds
Nicholas Lansdown: Spiel
No objections
Approved
Hella people leave
KALSA up first
Nicholas Lansdown: The first resolution is going to be KALSA, so if Jinyi Lee could come
down and give this presentation.
Jinyi Lee: Hi everyone I am Jinyi Lee Treasurer of KALSA, Korean American Law Students
Association, and I’m sorry I put your name Vince as a sponsor, She thoughts that’s what’s
supposed to be done for writing resolutions. They also made another mistake because they are
asking for only $650 not the 1250.40 they requested, but now with the 200 granted earlier they
are only asking for $450.
We had a graduation banquet on April 1, it was really successful about 50 people attended and
among them 12 were 3Ls graduating and 2 LLMs who attended, also we worked together with
KBANC the Korean American bar association of the bay area. The former and incoming
president attended along with alumni. They had Korean food, listened to Korean music, had
soju, and overall had a great time. We spent more compared to last year and we had more people
attend this event including non-Koreans so it was a great cultural night. Hopefully do not vote
against...
Ryan Brodovsky: Thank you for bringing this forward, I’m sorry I didn’t do my duty in helping
you learn how to write a resolution and I want to thank you for bringing this forward and for
trying even if you didn’t know what you were doing.
Jehmima Carril: Thank you so much- I’m glad this organization exists. I think you better our
school by existing and I support your full heartedly.
Tomas Ditrych: Vince, Is $650 OK for graduation ceremony? I think it’s Ok, since they already
got $200.
Vince Moita: I kind of oppose it because they received $600 initially and were given an
additional $200 more so they have $800 for this and a couple things they are funding are gifts for
people within their organization. We don’t sponsor gifts for anybody. I like gifts too but we
don’t usually do that.
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Jinyi Lee: I want to add that, originally food was going to cost $650 and we were able to talk to
the owner of the restaurant so we could have some extra for gifts for 3Ls and in that sense we
were able to save extra money that way.
Vince Moita: I think that’s great, but that still factors into the total costs of the event and even
through you were able to negotiate a great deal, which may be better for you. How many people
attended your event who were current Hastings students,
Jinyi Lee: 46
Vince Moita: Now you got $800 at your event per Hastings student, and with the additional
money you were seeking, you’d be getting $27 per person. The student activity fee is $40 per
person, and a lot of that goes to other things too so I think it’s a little too high.
Jonathan Clark: I’d like to propose a friendly amendment if you take out the gifts
Nicholas Lansdown: That about $450
Mike Khoury: Who fronted the money, who paid for this – the students or the organization?
Jinyi Lee: Board members, students we made a payment already and are trying to get reimbursed
from ASUCH
Mike Khoury: What happens if you don’t get the money back?
Jinyi Lee: We have to fundraise, were doing it now still, we just had a fundraiser selling Korean
food and the ping-pong tournament is a fundraiser also
Mike Khoury: My concern is that you spent almost 450 on personal gifts so if your organization
has some extra funds, I think you should use those funds before use the resolution fund. Do you
hear what I’m saying?
Jinyi Lee: Yea I hear you but,
Mike Khoury: So whatever you’ve raised these past days if you’re somehow able to use it
before you use the resolution fund that would be better.
Jinyi Lee: But we’re still
Chris Ballard: Well how has the fundraising been, have you guys been pretty successful?
Jinyi Lee: Well one of them is still going on so we don’t know yet
Nicholas Lansdown: Sammy, many people are in the ping-pong tournament
Samuel Chang: 36 people
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Nicholas Lansdown: That’s $180 currently for the tournament.
Jinyi Lee: But then aren’t we supposed to split the winnings
Nicholas Lansdown: So does anyone have questions, they are buying a ping-pong paddle for the
winner, right Sammy?
Samuel Chang: Due to some complaints we may just have a plaque and then some of the other
money would be used to buy other ping-pong gear, depends on who the winner is.
Nicholas Lansdown: Anyone have any questions for KALSA while she is still standing here.
Jonathan Clark: Friendly amendment - $200
Nicholas Lansdown explains friendly amendment
Jinyi Lee: chooses $200
Vince Moita: Can we ask a quick question, how much does KALSA have in fiscal account
currently?
Jinyi Lee: We haven’t reimbursed the members who have spent their own money so right now
we have $700; we haven’t even paid for the restaurant yet.
Vince Moita: Most of that is covered by funds we (ASUCH) paid for
Jinyi Lee: Still we spent $1,200 but are being reimbursed only $600.
Vince Moita: If we don’t vote to approve, then the money would come out of KALSA’s account
not individual students
Jinyi Lee: I didn’t get what you were saying
Vince Moita: Your organization has money in your account to reimburse students in the case we
don’t approve the $200.
Jinyi Lee: I believe so, with the assumption that the money that we raised is what we’re
reimbursing from.
Mike Khoury: I think now that this has been clarified I think they should go with Org funds
before taking ASUCH funds. I don’t know what we do at this part, we just vote.
Ryan Brodovsky: The only thing I want to add is; I know a lot of everyone here has been
involved in an org that is new, or has been rocky or has found themselves with a position with
their org having a 0-account balance. We know that is quite a difficult situation. So what we’re
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asking by voting against this to drain KALSA’s account so next year they are in that position so
consider that in your vote.
Mike Khoury: We don’t know that, we don’t know if we are completely draining the account.
How much money is in their account now?
Jinyi Lee: Right now, I haven’t check with the fiscal office yet. We did before the banquet
started, but I believe with Vince’s reimbursement. I believe $600 will be in the account. We
started this year with $450 in the account.
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Mike Khoury: Right now you said you have $600 minus the $450 leaving $150 in the account,
not including your fundraising.
Jinyi Lee: No, we started with $450, and we probably have $600 (inaudible) our account
Nicholas Lansdown: Just to clarify, you have roughly $600 in your bank account?
Jinyi Lee: I would say $1,000 because we have $600 that we’re already being reimbursed from
ASUCH
Vince Moita: So right now KALSA has $1,000 in the account?
Jinyi Lee: I believe so
Vince Moita: It’s used some of its money to pay for this event that hasn’t been paid yet
Jinyi Lee: Yes
Vince Moita: Of the amount that hasn’t been paid yet, there is $800, which ASUCH is going to
reimburse
Jinyi Lee: Not $800, $200 more, we included $600 (in our figures? Inaudible)
Vince Moita: So you have $600 in the (measures? Inaudible)
Jinyi Lee: No not (measures? Inaudible) it’s in the KALSA account. $1000 includes $600 as
reimbursement.
*General attempt to clarify what Jinyi Lee is answering about how much money is in the
account.*
Nicholas Lansdown: I think she’s trying to say they have $450 of liquid cash in their account
until and will get the rest reimbursed through ASUCH.
Vince Moita: I think we are ready to vote, in the case this fails there is $450 that can be used so
that students are not left paying out of pocket from the KALSA account.
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Jinyi Lee: So there’s an extra $200
Nicholas Lansdown: So there is $600?
Vince Moita motion to vote
Christian Urbano 2ndRyan Brodovsky objects
Jehmima Carril seconds objection
Nicholas Lansdown: So we open this up to discussion:
Ryan Brodovsky: I think there is a lot of confusion going on with what exactly is in the account.
So I motion to delay this resolution for 1-2 resolutions So Jinyi can talk with perhaps to Vince so
they can work out exactly what’s going on in their fiscal account then we can come back more
educated, at least more than we are now. There are a lot of things being said, and the numbers
are not adding up. I think we can all agree that something is not right, so I don’t think we should
be acting’s so fiscally strict without all the facts.
Nicholas Lansdown: You’re absolutely right, but at the same time she would have first claim
over the money right now, granted there is enough money for everyone, one would assume.
Jinyi Lee: I don’t understand the process of what’s next
Nicholas Lansdown: You can have the GC vote on it now, or the GC can table it for two
resolutions that way you can talk to Vince or Sammy since he is a part of KALSA, or both. That
way you can work out what KALSA has in its account and clear picture to the GC so we are
informed when we vote.
Jinyi Lee: OK
Nicholas Lansdown: Is that something you would like to do.
Jinyi Lee: Yea, Ah?
Nicholas Lansdown: We can vote now or we can skip you, either way, your choice
Jinyi Lee: We can vote now
Nicholas Lansdown: This is the amount you’d like to vote for *points to $200*
Jinyi Lee: Yes, I’d like to make it $100. You guys keep saying since we spent $650 on the
money we spent on gifts, if we deduct?(inaudible)
Nicholas Lansdown: OK, she wants to vote on it now so we’re going to go straight to voting if
you could please wait outside on this, that would be tremendous.
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Kristin Williams: So how much are we voting on right now?
Nicholas Lansdown: $100,
Jehmima Carril is confused about the money in their account, which isn’t accounted for
Nicholas Lansdown: I can tell you I kind of pieced it together, they have $400 in the account,
and she was including the $600 she got from ASUCH to get to $1,000 and then with the extra
$200 she included that in her budget. They don’t really have $1200, which she was saying they
have, they have $400 that she then added to.
Jehmima Carril: How much did they spend on gifts and the graduation?
Nicholas Lansdown: $450 on gifts and 1250 for the whole thing.
Tomas Ditrych: So they have 1200 already?
Nicholas Lansdown: All their money in and all of ASUCH’s money altogether gives them
enough to cover this
Jonathan Clark: With a zero balance
Nicholas Lansdown: Yes with a zero balance, that is the flip side.
Nicholas Lansdown: Motion- vote to fund KALSA for $100
Vince Moita: My interpretation is what we’d be funding is the tangible gifts.
Aye: Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Jason Morales, Mike Khoury, Chris Ballard, Jonathan
Clark, Kristin Williams, Tom Russell, Pallavi Vishwanath, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo,
Ryan Brodovsky
Nay: Alane Wall, Vince Moita, Christian Urbano, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
Abstention: Tomas Ditrych
It passes
Nicholas Lansdown: I think she left
Audience Member: Her stuff is still here
Next resolution
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Nicholas Lansdown: Next resolution is from BLSA do we have a BLSA representative? Seeing
no representative
Chris Ballard: Wait, I’m not sure if they knew they we’re supposed to be here, who’s the named
member.
Nicholas Lansdown: Deborah Awolope, she’s been here before
Chris Ballard: This is the cultural graduation resolution, we are asking for an additional $200, so
I don’t feel the need to explain how important it is so, anyone want to call it to vote.
Kristin Williams motions
Andrew Levad seconds
Jonathan Clark objects
Jonathan Clark: Just to say that this is a lot of what we had last time, I just want to point it out,
I’m for this I know they are covering a lot of on their own too, they are covering $2,000 on their
own so consider that side too.
Vince Moita: I’m in favor of this; BLSA has a small presence in class and a small organization
so they have less access to fundraising efforts. Their original budget request was significantly
higher. They’ve made concessions they’ve met with me an additional $200 is entirely
reasonable given the size and significance of this event.
Ryan Brodovsky: I’m 100% for this in the full amount, and I will be voting for this in that
fashion. I want to point out what’s happened here for the past 30 minutes. We had Jinyi Lee
come up here; this was her first time here. She admitted mistakes she made; she was incredibly
apologetic she was trying to do her best. We kind of just railed on her to the point where I hope
she didn’t just run away, but that’s the impression we gave, and that seems to have happened.
When we start point out the costs per person and the fact that money is going to gifts. And now
BLSA coming her which is an equally deserving org and I’m very happy they are being treated
with a lot of respect, because I think both orgs deserve the respect. This has been an issue all
year long and I’m glad we have representatives going to be here next year. These are our friends
our colleagues that are coming to us because they have elected us as leaders and we need to be
able to treat them with respect. And I hope everyone can think about that going forward.
*Jinyi Lee returns*
Vince Moita: There is a fundamental difference between tangible gifts and an event. Tangible
gifts are something we as an org have never supported.
Nicholas Lansdown: Just so you are aware of the cost of the event it is here at the bottom
*3,389.68*
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Kristin Williams: Can we only have comments about the BLSA resolution instead of General
comments
Tomas Ditrych: Exactly why are we talking about the previous resolution?
Mike Khoury: This is the actual cost, how much are you asking for
Nicholas Lansdown: $200, any more questions?
* Chris Ballard steps out, Nicholas Lansdown asks for his vote before he leaves*
Motion, approve additional $200
Aye: Jehmima Carril, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Alane Wall, Mike Khoury, Chris Ballard,
Vince Moita, Christian Urbano, Matthew Friedman, Jonathan Clark, Andrew Levad, Kristin
Williams, Lucas Yeung, Tom Russell, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath, Grace Wright, Celia
Guzman, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Ryan Brodovsky
Nay: None
Abstention: Samuel Chang
Passes
Nicholas Lansdown: Next resolution on the table is HPILF
Kyle Nettleblad: This is new to me,
Nicholas Lansdown: What your ask is, what your using it for, how it will affect students, how it
will affect the student body.
Kyle Nettleblad: HPILF is requesting something different than what we asked for in the spring
16 budget. This year, everything is more expensive in SF including our catering. We stayed
around our budget. The money we’re asking for will either go to a grant for students for to the
Gala next year.
Nicholas Lansdown: Anyone have any questions
Jonathan Clark: How much did this event raise
Kyle Nettleblad: With other sources, we will be doing around 20 grants.
Leeja Patel: 20-25 $4,000 grants. Everything HPILF does goes to fund the grants.
Kyle Nettleblad: It goes directly back to students in order to help them work this summer to help
Hastings employment.
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Vince Moita: Is the money you are requesting, is that going to go to make one additional grant,
or is to cover the cost of this event.
Kyle Nettleblad: If it’s not going to a specific grant, it’s going to the gala for next year. We
typically like to keep some in the reserve to get venue for next year’s gala, which needs to be
done well in advance
Vince Moita: I can only say we try to apply the same logic for our organization as well so we
can do the same things for students
Kyle Nettleblad: I wouldn’t know off the top of my head, if we have enough to round off
another grant then it would go to that, again I don’t have the numbers.
Christian Urbano: If the purpose of student funds is to maximize student impact, the HPILF gala
is the biggest student organization by far of any Hastings event; you said the __ annual,
Kyle Nettleblad: 32nd annual.
Christian Urbano: They have been doing this for a long time; they have a huge following with
over 300 students there. If ASUCH is going to fund something, this should be it.
Jonathan Clark: I’m not quite sure how the funding works for this, I’m not against it, and I want
to know where we are going. Do you get money to grow the gala from outside sources as well
us, and all the proceeds go to the grants?
Kyle Nettleblad: Does ASUCH money go directly to students?
Jonathan Clark: You get money for the gala, and from outside sources for this gala, to throw it,
and all the proceeds go to grants.
Kyle Nettleblad: We fundraise throughout the year for grants, some fundraising would go to
funding the gala, ultimately the money we raise goes to grants. We put on events throughout the
year; the majority of the money we raise go to grants
Leeja Patel: To clarify, it’s not a 1:1 if it was going to HPILF and other student orgs, HPILF
fundraises for the grants not for the org, so it’s not a 1:1. Part of the funding for GALA is from
ASUCH. Maybe you should mention the end of the year GALA is entirely not funded by student
fees because it’s being covered by David Seward and other outside donors, so they could have
asked for that instead. Its fundraised by a lot of places, civil justice clinics, attorney’s fees,
outside donations, law firms, ASUCH is one of the benefactors.
Alane Wall: It wouldn’t be possible for some students to work for public interest sector because
you get no money for it vs some big law firm job so that is not fair, you are taking a lot of legal
services out of a community (inaudible end)
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Nicholas Lansdown: Any other questions, hearing and seeing no objections I end the debate.
Aye: Jehmima Carril, Ian Nicholson, Alane Wall, Mike Khoury, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Vince Moita, Andrew Levad, Kristin Williams, Matthew Friedman, Tomas
Ditrych, Celia Guzman, Grace Wright, Lucas Yeung, Ryan Brodovsky
Nay: Tom Russell
Abstention: Samuel Chang
It passes
Vince Moita: With that passing, the reserve amount is now at 4,334 and the resolution fund is
drained. There is only 1 more resolution so motion to pull out 820.
Jonathan Clark: You usually don’t have 5,000 unclaimed each year?
Vince Moita: Usually more, because we’ll have this plus what goes unclaimed, usually 5-10,000.
Leeja Patel: It depends on how much you want to leave for next year. What is the amount
you’re hoping to keep?
Vince Moita: Whatever is left of this, ideally it would have been more it would have been the
8,000 but that didn’t happen. So it will the 4,334 plus what doesn’t get spent. Topically that is
30% of what we allocate out, which is 10K + what’s remaining, plus what people donate and the
school matches. Since there is only one left, let’s call the $4,334 resolution fund.
Next resolution:
Vote to hear emergency resolution for FREC
Vote passes to hear emergency resolution
Vince Moita: My org. is FREC, finance /real estate club. We had planned a busy semester but
my time was used by ASUCH and I couldn’t accomplish that I wanted hence I had two events
that I wasn’t able to host to the detriment of my club. However, we were still allocated that
money and we’ve been working with the alumni services and BLSA in helping to throw a Willie
Brown rock star event next week. Willie Brown is coming to campus and we’ve combined our
social event with the Willie Brown event. We invited 250 of the top donating alumni, in addition
to 300 real estate attorneys in the bay area. There are limited students who are going to go, but
this is an event aimed at gaining the alumni participation back on campus, showing our alumni
we really appreciate them and give them the opportunity to network with one of our most famous
alumni. In addition to that, it will be a fundraising effort to launch the LRCP, for the long-range
campus plan, the academic building. We are creating naming opportunities for different atriums
and walkways to hopefully raise an additional 10 Million dollars to bridge the gap between what
we want and what we have. We have ~38.5 Million we’d like to have 48 million to get the
building we want. With that being said, we’d like to take the $225 that FREC was allocated and
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allow FREC to reallocate that money to add to the alumni office’s budget for this event. They
have $500 for the event, so together there will be $765 for the alumni services.
Nicholas Lansdown: Point of clarification, was this money distributed?
Vince Moita: No, but it was allocated so it doesn’t change anything budget wise
Nicholas Lansdown: And this is going to be used for this event instead of the other event, so this
is for transparency.
Vince Moita: Exactly, this is for transparency purposes because this is your money.
Samuel Chang Motion to approve
Jehmima Carril Second
Ryan Brodovsky – Object
Samuel Chang: The maker of the motion gets to speak first. I think that we’ve been talking
about being fiscally responsible, and since this has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility. This
seems to be a great event to bring alumni to campus to have students be able to network and this
is a mission ASUCH has been pushing for as such I think we should be approving.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is incredibly hard, so the next time you see Carli, you should give her a
huge thank you because this is going to be difficult.
Ryan Brodovsky: I heard a lot of second attempts there so I am confident this is going to pass.
But this seems this is going to be an event for alumni and attorneys in the area. And while I do
really support that action. We just really scared away one of our student organizations by going
through the dollar to cents student ratio, and I just want us to be accountable to ourselves I think
this still will pass but I wanted to be able to vote no.
Nicholas Lansdown: Would you like to respond, this is your resolution
Vince Moita: The main goal of this event is to get more alumni to campus, so while there are a
small number of students actually at the event, the hopeful impact will be felt longer not only in
this year but in future generations from the fundraising this is aimed to achieve.
Nicholas Lansdown: Motion *Vince leaves but votes before he leaves*
Vote
Aye : Vince Moita, Jehmima Carril, Ian Nicholson, Alane Wall, Chris Ballard, Mike Khoury,
Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Andrew Levad, Kristin Williams Matthew Friedman, Tomas
Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath, Grace Wright, Ryan Porte, Celia Guzman, Samuel Chang,
Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo
Nay: Ryan Brodovsky, Tom Russell
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Abstention: Jason Morales, Lucas Yeung
Passes
Nicholas Lansdown Motion to hear La Raza emergency resolution
No objections
Samuel Chang moves to extend meeting by 15 minutes.
Christian Urbano second,
No Objections:
Passes
La Raza
Mina Sack: This is also for a cultural graduation like what you’ve seen tonight. I think the
biggest thing you should keep in mind is that the student org has fundraised a lot of money
already, $2,200, and the biggest cost is for food. They have already gotten the costs down to $8
per person and some have 10-15 family members coming from out of town. I think that we
should keep in mind that some of these students are first to graduate college, law school, and
they have family flying across the country and the school hasn’t been able to provide tickets to
the full commencement and it’s a big deal for a lot of our classmates. I’m here presenting for
them and I can try to answer any questions, I have a little information on what they have done
and where the money is going, but they already submitted a budget around the same amount,
around 3000, and were granted $600 but unfortunately the 600 and the 2200 they raised they are
short. This isn’t the full amount they are short but an amount they felt was a fair number to ask
from ASUCH.
Vince Moita: I’d like to immediately approve $200 like we’ve done for the rest of the cultural
orgs.
Nicholas Lansdown walks through that via vote
No objections - ask now $620
Nicholas Lansdown: Any other questions?
Vince Moita: What is the funds going towards?
Mina Sack: It is going to be going towards food not just for students but their family members,
it’s like 8 a person.
Nicholas Lansdown: How many 3Ls are graduating?
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Tomas Ditrych: It’s in the resolution, 16 students graduating.
Mina Sack: While it is smaller in comparison, the school can’t accommodate them all for
graduation some people have family coming from other countries
Aye: Jehmima Carril, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Alane Wall, Mike Khoury, Chris Ballard
Matthew Friedman, Kristin Williams Andrew Levad, Celia Guzman, Nicholas Raimondo,
Gabrielle Lion, Ryan Brodovsky
Nay: Vince Moita, Christian Urbano, Jonathan Clark, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath
Abstention: Tom Russell, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Samuel Chang
Passes
Leeja Patel comment: I don’t think anyone should be denied any tickets for commencement. If
you need more in addition to the ten you were granted you can request them when you pick up
your regalia.
Last Resolution
ACSEL- *should have been heard before FREC and La Raza but resolution was not found until
the end. Jonathan Clark was very vocal about including because the resolution was tucked away
it was not heard until now*
Motion to hear Emergency resolution passes
Kaleigh Aucoin: Sorry didn’t realize there was a timeline. There was a panel we put together
last week, April 5, and as a campus rep, I got $150 from Themis for food. I needed to pay for tax
and tip and would like to be reimbursed.
Vince Moita: motion to approve
Jehmima Carril seconds
No objections
Motion passes
Samuel Chang: I want to thank e-board, 3L reps, LLMs MSLs, thanks for those who do what do ,
for those returning I’ll see you next year and for those who are not congrats for everything
you’ve done. Move to adjourn
Second- all-
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ASUCH General Council Meeting
March 15, 2016
7:00
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita,
Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Kristin
Williams, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano,
Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Sean Larson, Alane Wall, Nicholas
Raimondo, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Matthew Olhausen,
Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
Absent: Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Dytirich
7:03
Public Comment
John Clark: Why is there no open bar at Spring Fling? People are wondering.
Mike Khoury: Tomorrow there is an event for 50 things to do without practicing law in the
LBM at 5-7.
Lucas Yeung: There is a new Hastings Fitness group and people are requesting to replace the
bikes with treadmills.
Nicholas Raimondo: There are complaints that there are no designated smoking areas.
Nick Lansdown: There should be a smoking area at the far left side of the beach.
Samuel Micon: Has had their inaugural meeting for the task force.
Keith Yetter: Reiterating John’s concerns with Spring Fling.
Jehmima Carril: From a consumer’s standpoint, she prefers not having an open bar because
when there is an open bar, the selection is not good and she likes having options.
Keith Yetter: The frustration is that ASUCH allocates money and people do not understand why
they are paying money if there is not open bar. They would like a lower cost. People do not
understand what their money is going to.
Vince Moita: Spring Fling and Barrister’s are ASUCH’s fundraising events. In terms of the
budget, they were anticipating making 7-9 grand. They anticipated that when making the
budget. There is a safety net for non-renewable money. But if we wanted to spend it on money
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it would be fiscally irresponsible. They can raise the price to have an open bar. There are some
people who don’t drink, so why should they pay for someone else’s tab?
Ronnie Shou: Can someone send out an e-mail explaining this because students are used to
having an open bar. The frustration stems from spending $40 last year for a boat and open bar
and this year $30 for who knows what. There should be an explanation that we are raising
money for next year’s ASUCH. This is the source of the frustration.
Vince Moita: Will do it.
Ronnie Shou: Vince is great.
Ryan Brodovsky: Sara and he met with educational effectiveness committee. There will be 3
research projects evaluating an oral assessment rubric. The faculty and Ryan and Sara developed
it used by faculty to evaluate students. This is to see how they can improve. There are specific
classes selected for taping to evaluate how Hastings is preparing students for oral skills.
Sara Tobin: They fine-tuned the rubric by reviewing the water law class. They are reviewing
adjunct faculty who received negative reviews last year.
Ryan Brodovsky: There were 9 adjunct professors who they are reviewing to ensure
improvements were made.
Vince Moita: In the last 4 months, we had 3 of our most senior members resign or change
positions. Would like to see some explanation for why they are happening at the same time.
Nick Lansdown: The e-board tried to schedule something with the Dean. He will be holding a
town hall on the 23rd to discuss this topic. This is a forum to ask these questions.
Vince Moita: They requested two weeks ago.
Nick Lansdown: Spring break interfered and he had a conference.
Leeja Patel: There was a time conflit with the e-board.
Nick Lansdown: Will have a monthly meeting with the Dean at 9:00 am at his conference room.
People can come.
Samuel Micon: Are there consistent election rules from year to year?
Ryan Brodovsky: No. Last year no, and before that is murky.
Keith Yetter: Ryan’s right. The constitution or bylaws say that the elections committee will
make the rules. That is in effect. The rules for posting flyers are university rules. There are
unprecedented levels of campaigning. Comments and questions can be sent to the elections
committee. In the past, the executive positions were ranked choice, but based on constitutional
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changes last year, they are now majority vote. The rep positions are determined by the 8 highest
votes.
John Clark: How do you break ties?
Leeja Patel: If there are ties, which have never happened, there is nothing in the constitution to
determine the outcome.
Ryan Brodovsky: It is a re-vote and a coin toss. Debates are tomorrow in Room K at 3:30. Do
uncontested positions have to make a speech?
Andrew Levad: Uncontested candidates don’t’ have to prepare anything. A statement is
optional. The debates are between candidates for president, IVP and secretary.
Sammy Chang: Curriculum Committee will be publishing white papers for a faculty retreat and
talk about where moot court should be for 1Ls, 2Ls and the curriculum. They are going send a
student survey out. Changing the weeks in the school year is another proposal.
Ronnie Shou: How do they share thoughts?
Sammy Chang: Share with him or Keith who is also on the committee. They will bring the
white papers to ASUCH. SHAC voted 4-1 to increase rates to 2.2% on top of 4.5% as required
by ACA. This was voted over the 2 year. The 3 year won because it had more options. This
decision will have to be voted on by ASUCH at the next meeting. The due date for the fee
increase is April 1st.
7:23
E-Board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
ASUCH debates are tomorrow Room K, 3:30-4:30 and will be recorded for those who cannot
attend. Polls open on Monday via e-mail at 9:00 am. There are 4 days to complete the voting.
There is a trophy for the student-org dodge ball championship. It is very tall. This is an
engraved trophy. Student orgs will compete for it. Currently there are 6 teams interested, and 3
who are on their way to signing up.
Tom Russell: How many are needed per team?
Ryan Brodovsky: There will be 6 competitors playing at the time. They are discussing whether
to allow alternates.
Matt Huzaineh: Can his committee compete. They are not org.
Ryan Brodovksy: The money goes to an orgs event, so they are only allowing orgs.
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Matt Huzaineh: Can they donate it to second place?
Ryan Brodovksy: They are going to start out with just orgs and they could expand later.
Nick Lansdown: Can orgs send more than one?
Ryan Brodovsky: They will discuss it, but it might not be fair for smaller orgs who might not
have enough. It is $10 for a team to compete. Second place gets the money back or 20% of the
winnings, and 1st place gets the rest. This is a fundraiser and a community event to bring people
together. This will be in the Tower basement.
Kea Scullion: Are the winnings are earmarked for what?
Ryan Brodovsky: They are for the org to do what they want with it to go into the org’s fiscal
account.
DIRCA – Sara Tobin
There are a lot of concerns about spring fling. In the past DIRCAs have put up their own money
to supplement Spring Fling. She does not want to do that. ASUCH as a whole should be
funding these events and DIRCAs should not suffer the burden of funding this. Will talk to
Vince (treasurer). The budget allocation is taking care of the venue, dj and phot booth. IT
dropped the ball on ticket sales, which will start either tomorrow ro Thursday. BOB will be on
St. Patricks day. There will be Irish beer and cups that turn green. Service hours will be
allocated. Will need help with balloon drop for spring fling.
Treasurer – Vince Moita
Right now we have $2,571 in our budget. Last week he was made aware that the North by
Northwest funds allocated was not used. Also, there was symposium that did not use all of the
funds allocated. We are now at $3,571 for the resolution fund.
DIRCOMM – Sammie Acuna
Nothing.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
6@6s will happen in the summer. In LA and Washington and East Bay.
Secretary – Carli Suba
Service Hours.
President – Nick Lansdown
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Authorized task force for student fee advisory committee to find out what the student fee is being
used for and to make sure the student fee matches the price of inflation. Sammy Chang is
working on white sheet to see where public safety has been and where it will be going.
Vince Moita: What is a task force? What is the difference between that and a committee?
Nick Lansdown: Nothing.
Vince Moita: Why do we call it a task force?
John Clark: Committees have more regulations than task forces.
Nick Lansdown: The agendas are the same except they are not required to report to the GC.
Vince Moita: Why do we have 3 that potentially have the ability to take money from ASUCH?
What is their status?
Nick Lansdown: It would be through the resolution process. They will not be requesting money.
Sammy Chang: Will not be asking for money. These are temporary issues, so they will task
forces so they won’t be required to be included in the bylaws. Has been working with the
General Counsel. The Green Task Force was different because it was voted on by the GC.
Ryan Brodovsky: Concerned that there was a resolution asking a task force to be created and
now they are being created in thin area. It is alarming that they don’t have to report to the GC.
If we are creating these targeted groups with the aim of helping students, there should be some
means of letting students know what’s going on.
Nick Lansdown: The bylaws allow this. Sammy has given presentations on these issues so it is
not coming out of nowhere. He is showing initiative to get behind and follow through with these
issues. These are the reasons he created these task forces.
Ryan Brodovsky: What about not requiring them to report to the GC? Since this hasn’t been
used in the past and we are establishing history to help guide the future. He is concerned that
there is no accountability.
Nick Lansdown: The purpose would be dictated on the needs of the school. He is expecting
them to report to the GC. We can put this in the bylaws. We can just tell Sammy to report to the
general council.
Sammy Chang: Is planning on reporting back to the GC.
Jehmima Carril: Agrees with both sides. She is afraid of power in the hands of a few. Wants it
stated that the task force should report back to the GC.
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Nick Lansdown: This is not power in the hands of a few. He was elected as President to fix the
needs. It was not power in the hands of the few because people voted for him.
Jehmima Carril: She is referring to the task force. It seems like they are taking the place of the
GC. It seems like these issues should be for the GC.
Laney Wall: This is not a personal issue, but more of a policy issue in allowing people to do the
same thing later and how far it could go.
Keith Yetter: Curious about what the scope of the task force. His understanding is to get
information and report back. They can only act once we allocate the funds. The final authority
stays with the GC.
Leeja Patel: Technical point. Keith is right. If there a problems with the ones created, they are
in the bylaws so we would have to go back and change them. Everything has to come back to
the GC. They are more like ad hoc committees. They shouldn’t have powers that ASUCH
doesn’t.
Ryan Brodovsky: Wants to clarify that he doesn’t think that Sammy wouldn’t give updates.
This is about precedent for the future. Are there other people on this task force?
Nick Lansdown: He is on the student fee task force.
Ryan Brodovsky: Are they welcoming other ASUCH members or non-GC members.
Sammy Chang: It is an open call. The public safety task force already has other members. One
is a student who used to be an office and also a former security guard. They are looking to do a
survey. The president is an ex officio member of all the task forces.
Nick Lansdown: He will be collecting all the information from the members of the task force.
Sean Larson: Should there be a task force management task force?
Carli Suba: There are only 2 meetings left to do anything.
Sammy Chang: There are only 3 days left to figure out the documents regarding student services
fee. Worked on this during Spring Break. Believes that there can information done by the last
meeting. Because the sunshine meeting is happening soon, this should be done by the last
meeting. Hoping to get the public safety reports ASAP as it is contingent on others getting him
the information requested.
7:52
Approval of Minutes from March 1, 2016
Sammy Chang: Move to approve.
Ian Nicholson: Wants to make a correction. Page 12 or 13 he was a yay.
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NO OBJECTIONS. MINUTES PASS.
John Clark: Moves to adjourn.
Sara Tobin: Seconded.
NO OBJECTIONS.
7:53
Adjourn
General Council Meeting
March 1, 2016
7:00
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita,
Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Kristin Williams,
Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril,
Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Sean Larson, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Samuel Chang, Ryan
Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi
Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
Absent: Keith Yetter, Ronnie Shou
7:03
Public Comment
John Clark: With a student with disabilities, disappointed with elevators situation.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded. She is upset about it. It has been out for weeks. There is been an
elevator out for probably 6 weeks. The one in the front and by the LBM have been out for about
6 weeks. It is ridiculous. Why is this happening? It looks like they aren’t going to fix it. It
looks like a war zone. Has been meaning to bring this up for a while.
Jason Morales: This may affect admitted students day to have elevators not working. It also
causes congestion
Ryan Brodovsky: E-mail was sent earlier today. Does anyone have questions?
Sara Tobin: They are saying that they are telling officers that officers are not qualified for
current job and that they can take a pay cut for a different job?
Ryan Brodovsky: For the most part, the officers are offered the opportunity to get a pay increase
and apply for a UCSF position and there is space for them. There are some officers (5 who are
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full time) who might not pass a the test required for UCSF. There is the opportunity to be a
security officer. Thigns are moving faster than what we anticipated because it was hinged on the
198 building. That odes not seem the case anymore.
Laney Wall: She understands that they would no longer be able to make arrests and carry less
weapons. Why are we paying more for less security.
Nick Lansdown: The goal is to make a stronger campus with UCSF. There would be initially a
bigger increase on the budget, over the long run the amount of administration duties would be
taken load by UCSF that Hastings takes on by Hastings. In terms of safety, there would be
UCSF security on campus. Includes roving security.
Laney Wall: Still thinks this is a bad idea. Everyone thought this was a bad idea from the get
go.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is why he is bringing it up. The resolutions didn’t work. We talked
about contingency options. Vince talked about protests.
Matt Olhausen: Are they talking about firing anyone?
Ryan Brodovsky: They are not firing anyone, but it is part of a policy where they have to accept
a bad option or be fired.
Nick Lansdown: They are not done negotiating. As he understands it, he is trying to see where
they are going.
Ryan Porte: Thought that it seemed reasonable. The officers are allowed to do the same job,
only with UCSF and they will have SFPD. SFPD should have the qualifications to get into
UCSF and paid more. University has offered to buy them out. Times change.
Ian Nicholson: If we were considering a protest, suggest getting contact with protestors and
figuring out what they have stopped, and putting on Facebook to show what they have stopped.
It shows what the UC Hastings officers have prevented.
Nick Lansdown: Ask the public officers themselves if they want to be part of UCSF. Not
everyone may be against UCSF.
Ryan Brodovsky: There seems to be multiple officers don’t have as many options as they
wanted. 2 issue: security (it seems that the issues would be addressed: security guards would
take place of the officers at the desk and police officers would patrol the streets) and community
level (we know the officers personally and they have served Hastings for a long time; do we
want to support them? They could use more support).
Jehmima Carril: Concerned about the removal of the partnership with SFPD.
Nick Lansdown: SFPD can’t not respond to calls.
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Jehmima Carril: They are not giving public safety officers any options.
Vince Moita: Doesn’t like it. Hastings is in a unique location. Great because we have access to
courts, but we are in the most dangerous neighborhood in San Francisco. It is not a good area.
We need officers who can make arrests when they happen. 15 min is too late. Even though the
police station is a couple blocks away, but he has called them in instances when there was a gun,
and it took them over 30 min to get there. It does not give him confidence that they will be able
to keep us safe with the new proposal when safety is a huge issue at Hastings.
Tom Russell: Do they know what the patrol actually means?
Ryan Brodovsky: Has heard that there are 5 full time officers and there is not enough to man the
desks and patrol at the same time. Believes that if they bring UCSF on board, it is only a matter
of when an event occurs. There isn’t much information released. It probably won’t be available
until they meet.
Laney Wall: This is scary because it is uncertain as to when it occurs.
Ryan Brodovsky: The current people are UC Hastings officers. In the UCSF system they have
both officers and security guards. UCSF security guards would be in the buildings and UCSF
officers would be patrolling outside. If there were issues, then they would contact SFPD
officers. There are a few options, we can write a resolution, we can do a protest, we can do a
survey in the school. What do people want to do?
Vince Moita: The real crux is finances. This is driven by money. It is cheaper to go with UCSF.
There might be a better solution if we sit down with both sides and address all the issues.
Guest (3L): There has always been a breakdown with what students want and what other people
want. It always seems like we are in danger in the TL. We need to tell them exactly what we
want (weapons, patrolling, etc.)
Tom Russell: We should have a concrete idea of what is going to happen. It doesn’t seem
prudent to fight something we don’t know will happen yet.
Pallu Vishwanath: Had phone stolen off campus this weekend. SFPD was not helpful. It was an
issue because the apartment complex who had her phone didn’t have security. It might not be
helpful to have SFPD on campus.
Matt Olhausen: WE should wait to see what is happening. Hastings do not pay the officers that
much. This seems to be a place to be a stepping-stone to go somewhere else.
Nick Landsown: Going to move forward for the sake of time.
7:28
E-Board Reports
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Elections Committee – Ryan Brodovsky
Ryan: Would like to get more applicants for ASUCH elections. There are 21 open positions.
Thanks the 3L reps for the things they have done. Shout out to KRANDY for running the
debate. Thanks Ian for getting information from the e-mail address. Will send out more e-mails
to get more people to run.
Dodge ball/Basketball – Ryan Brodovsky
Ryan Brodovsky: The General Counsel I shard to work with. Hasn’t heard from them. There
will be a student/faculty basketball game on April 1st. People have spent over $100 on this
event. Dean Hillman will be playing and Dean Faigman will be playing. There will be a
facebook page coming soon.
EVP – Matt H
Event at Vinyard. Former President Joy Siu talked about an event in LA.
Treasurer – Vince
Funds from West-Northwest were actually taken care of by journal. Doesn’t come out of
ASUCH budget.
DIRCA – Sara
Spring fling is on March 26th on Broadway. Cash bar. Maybe food. Next BOB is on St.
Patrick’s Day.
DIRCOMM- Sammie
Trying to improve the ASUCH website. Open to ideas. Has changed the formats of the
documents to pdfs. Working on getting a hold of past documents.
Secretary – Carli Suba
The ASUCH office is not storage for orgs. It is unfair to other orgs who do not have members in
ASUCH who have access to the office. Do ASUCH service hours.
President – Nick Lansdown
Highlights the monetary resolutions.
7:40
Committee Reports
Curriculum Committee – Sammy Chang
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They can’t talk about the whitepaper until it is finished. They are reaching out to other schools
with higher passage
SHAC – Sammy Chang
Asked for certain changes in rates. It is considered confidential until we vote on it. Wants to let
us know what’s happening.
John Clark: So, the financial stuff is confidential until it’s too late.
Sammy Chang: The consultant has asked to keep it confidential until the students have voted.
Whatever SHAC votes on is a recommendation and it goes to UCSHIP so it can still be
commented on.
Academic Committee - Matt O:
Still working on plans.
Elections Committee – Andrew Levad
KRANDY is running debates. They are accepting questions to ask the candidates. They are
accepting them until the day of the debates.
Educational effectiveness committee – Sara Tobin
Looking at adjunct faculty. They are also working on advocating oral advocacy with
negotiations classes.
3L Commencement – Mike Khoury
They are working on a commencement speaker. Everything else is going well.
7:45
Minutes approval
Sammy Chang: Move to approve
Matt Olhausen: Seconded
Andrew Levad: Objected – Krandy Hawkins should be changed.
Kristin Williams: They should both be noted as present.
7:47
Comparison of Fees – Sammy Chang
Link to Presentation: http://prezi.com/ezfcgxv3bnx-/?utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=copy
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Gracie Wright: It does not make sense that there is $25 dollars going to the gym, when it sucks.
Ryan Brodovsky: They are rightfully enraged for the facilities offered. The numbers are not
clear to have definite answers. But it seems that Zumba and Yoga eat up the fees. This is the
essence. The fitness fee should be re-named the “wellness fee.”
Sammy Chang: This is the point of the discussion. To make an opportunity to talk about these
issues
Vince Moita: A lot of the money is eaten up by when things break down. IE: when the gym
flooded.
Carli Suba: Yoga and Zumba don’t meet the majority of student needs compared to the rest of
the equipment in the gym.
Ian Nicholson: Was there for the meeting for the shark tank. Motion wanted to turn it into a
yoga studio an no yoga student turned up. And nobody wanted to turn it into a yoga student
Matt Olhausen: It is fair to say that there are some people who want to do yoga or Zumba, but it
does not seem fair for how much each student fee.
Sammy Chang: This is the point of having this presentation. This discussion is the reason for
presenting this to students who don’t know these facts.
Ryan Brodovsky: It seems that the general response is that there is support (look at Prezie). In
terms of GAAP, they are in a different boat. What happens if we don’t vote on GAAP this
election? We don’t know what happens to it.
Nick Lansdown: It just stops. But it should be voted on, even if it is not spread well.
Ryan Brodovsky: Maybe there should be a resolution.
Nick Lansdown: Has asked them to ask a resolution and they haven’t done it yet.
Ryan Brodovsky: Should look at all the GAAP fees to find out what to do with them.
Ryan Porte: There is not a lot of support to increase fees.
Sammy Chang: If students don’t support it, then there shouldn’t be an increase.
Sean Larson: Do we need to have these discussions right now. Thinks we should get back right
now.
Ryan Brodovsky: Let’s establish right now, the committee can figure out what to do.
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Sammy Chang: Not done with the presentation. (look back at presentation)
Carli Suba: Does this account for the amount ASUCH raises from our events?
Sammy Chang: No, because there is no record of that
Nick Lansdown: If anyone wants to be on his committee, e-mail him.
8:15
Resolutions
Resolution – George Croton and Samuel Micon
There are a lot of things that Hastings does that is not efficient or green. There is no information
on how to compost or recycle.
Ryan Brodovsky: Question as to “financially.” Feels that there should specifics on what that
entails. Should they ask for funding like other orgs?
Samuel Micon: Should ask for it via resolution process.
George Croton: It shouldn’t take that much money.
John Clark: They don’t think that training janitors would spend money?
Samuel Micon: Believes that to start, it would be very cheap. We need more trash cans, which
are cheap and easy to implement.
George Croton: Having student education should not cost that much.
Samuel Micon: Can provide compost buckets to all the tower residents – those are free. There is
no reason that we don’t have those.
Sean Larson: This might not fall under ASUCH, it might go beyond us. But we can support it.
Encourages them to go up the ladder so they aren’t reliant on us for funds. Administration
should have more hands on on this matter.
Samuel Micon: They are already working on that.
Sammy Chang: They are doing it this way because ASUCH is the voice of all students. If
ASUCH this as a task force, then ASUCH is taking the stand of having good green practices.
ASUCH has other task forces. This is beneficial to all students.
George Croton: This is not academtic, it is adminsistrative, but it is student run, so they need
ASUCH behind them.
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Vince Moita: We don’t have a lot of funding. Funds are reserved for student activities and
organizations. They are to foster careers and student lives. This should go further up the food
chain. We would like to back them in support. Makes a motion to strike financial.
Motion: Strike from resolution process
VOTE to strike:
Vince Moita: We cannot finance the funds for this task force. They are not a student
organization so we cannot fund them. We should support them, but this does not fall on
ASUCH.
Matt Olhausen: Doesn’t care. If they request money on behalf of orgs, then that is what has to
happen.
George Croton: This could provide opportunities for careers via connections.
Mike Khoury: What happens when the trash leaves this building?
George Croton: Professor Takacs has been concerned about this for the last few years. The
janitors feel frustrated with the system. They have to work with the janitors.
Samuel Micon: San Francisco is on the forefront of this.
George Croton: We should be doing this.
Ryan Brodovsky: Happy to bring this up. There is no compost bins on the 3rd floor. What is the
overarching purpose? Are they here to be recycling educators or advocate for more recycling.
Andrew Levad: It is important to remember that not every organization is academic.
Nick Lansdown: If this is a task force, it is not an organization.
Andrew Levad: If we have to reduce our funding a little bit to have one less culture night and
save the earth, then that should be taken into consideration.
Vince Moita: As ASUCH treasurer, if we are creating this entity, he supports them we can
support them the way we support everyone else, but we shouldn’t make them an exception. If
we end the debate right now, then we are…
Samuel Micon: He isn’t asking that much. They want to keep the debate within ASUCH open.
Nick Lansdown: Motion is to end debate
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
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VOTE:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita, Sara
Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Ian Nicholson, Kristin Williams, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Sean
Larson, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Celia
Guzman
NAY: 0
Abstentions: Jason Morales, Mike Khoury, Sammy Chang
MOTION PASSES.
Voting the Striking Clause:
VOTE:
YAY: Jehmima Carril, Ian Nicholson, Laney Wall, Vince Moita, John Clark, Ryan Brodovsky,
Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabby Lion, Gracie Wright, Nicholas Raimondo
NAY: Christian Urbano, Matt Freedman, Kristin Williams, Andrew Levad, Monica Brock,
Tomas Dytrich, Matt Huzaineh, Matt Olhausen, Celia Guzman,
Abstentions: Jason Morales, Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ryan Porte, Sammy
Chang, Carli Suba, Nick Lansdown
Motion does not pass.
Ryan Brodovsky: Amend “ASUCH general council shall have the option to give funds via
resolution and budget process in spring, summer, and fall in 2016”
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
Nick Lansdown: Chooses not to hear motion. Floor is open to hear discussion.
John Clark: Are they talking to orgs or the community as a branch of ASUCH – where is the
oversight?
Sammy Chang: Task force requires ASUCH members to be in it.
Carli Suba: Point of order – 15 minutes left
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Jehmima Carril: Ryan’s amendment changes it. It is the best of both worlds for them and
ASUCH. Wants a better option. “Shall have the option” to is the best option. Motion to keep
Ryan’s friendly amendment
Vince Moita: Seconded.
VOTE:
No objections. Amendment passes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Call to question.
Matt Olhausen: Seconded.
VOTE:
YAY: Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike
Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Kristin Williams, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Alane Wall, Nicholas
Raimondo, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
NAY: John Clark, Tom Russell
Abstentions: Carli Suba, Lucas Yeung, Nick Lansdown
RESOLUTION PASSES.
Emergency Resolution: HCLS – Allie Bragg
VOTE to hear:
No Objections. RESOLUTION WILL BE HEARD.
Sara Tobin: Offer this resolution on behalf of HCLS for a mixer and requesting reimbursement.
Allie Bragg: Mixer in January – the invited attorneys and students to network. There were 2030 students and half a dozen attorneys. There were food and wine and a raffle.
John Clark: Wants to hear from Vince to hear what he would have allocated for the budget.
Vince Moita: They would have done 40 as social plus career event, so $165. They have already
received money, but now it is discretionary.
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Sean Larson: We have $500 put back in our budget as discussed in the beginning of the meeting.
There is room for this. There may be a set standard, but there is room for orgs to ask for money.
Ryan Brodovsky: This money is in addition to what was allocated in the budget?
Vince Moita: Yes.
Sara Tobin: They initially wanted to have this in the fall, but they had it in the spring, so they
did not have it in the fall. The money was not allocated for this semester.
Carli Suba: We should give them money since we haven’t been giving orgs money and people
are scared to come here to ask. Students should not be scared to bring resolutions. That’s what
we are here for.
Monica Brock: This is how 1Ls make connections to get jobs. This is important.
Tom Russell: What was the extra costs?
Allie Bragg: Not sure what was turned in the fall, but she did spend this money on catering,
cutlery, and plates. Catering was probably most expensive. Alcohol was donated. Her family
donated alcohol. There was raffle prizes.
John Clark: How many attended?
Allie Bragg: 20-30 students.
Laney Wall: This is not an issue of planning. They probably turned in a budget asking for more,
but they were probably allocated less per the guidelines.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is a yearly event. How was the event last year?
Allie: It was better this year: more students and more attorneys.
Ryan Brodovsky: Will this happen next year?
Allie Bragg: Yes, hopefully the e-board will do this again this year.
Sean Larson: The initial budgets should not be the end all be all restraint. They are supposed to
ask for additional funding. We want to be fair, and this is what the budget is for.
Carli Suba: Motion to extend the meeting 10 minutes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Seconded.
Andrew Levad: Object.
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Vote:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita, Sara
Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Christian
Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Sean Larson, Alane Wall,
Nicholas Raimondo, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran,
Matthew Olhausen, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman,
NAY: Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Kristin Williams
Abstentions: Tomas Dytrich, Celia Guzman
Motion Passes: Meeting is extended.
Matt Olhausen: Move to approve.
Sean Larson: Seconded.
Vince Moita: Objects. Friendly Amendment – “$320”
Sara Tobin: They only do 1 per semester. They only did in the spring this year. Precedent says
that they were allocated $500 last year. It was not unreasonable to spend that much money.
Ryan Brodovsky: The $150 that they were allocated last semester is still in the pot, they are
asking “$175.39.” This was a great event for Hastings. Motion to fund fully.
Vince Moita: Seconded
VOTE:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita, Sara
Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Jason Morales, Chris Ballard, Ian Nicholson, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Lucas Yeung, Sean Larson, Alane
Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Pallavi Vishwanath, Celia Guzman
NAY: Tom Russell, Andrew Levad, Kristen Williams
Abstentions: Matt Freedman
RESOLUTION PASSES IN FULL.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to listen to second resolution
Sammy Chang: Seconded.
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No Objections. Resolution will be heard
SSDP – Nattalie Koski- Karell
Vince Moita: They allocated money. They got Career services to help. Motion to approve.
Ryan Brodovsky: Seconded.
No objections. RESOLUTION PASSES.
Sammy Chang: Motion to Adjourn.
Carli Suba: Seconded.
9:06
Adjourn.
General Council Minutes
February 16, 2016
7:00
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita,
Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Kristin Williams,
Andrew Levad, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell,
Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen,
Tomas Ditrych, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
Absent: Keith Yetter, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Alane Wall, Nicholas
Raimondo, Lucas Yeung, Pallavi Vishwanath
7:02
Public Comment
Andrew Levad: Sadie Hawkins. Bring clothes (formal wear) to donate. There will be a king
and queen. Working with Princess Project. It is a good cause.
Vince Moita: Wi-fi was not working this morning. Elevators were bad yesterday.
Nick Lansdwon: The internet was down because of Comcast. Not much we can do about that.
Sammy Chang: Unequal number of women’s and men’s bathrooms in 198. Could one of the
men’s bathrooms be changed to a women’s?
Tomas Ditrych: Commencement – LLMs are graduating. Generally we have to rent gowns and
caps. Is it normal to do so? Why isn’t this covered by the university?
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Mike Khoury: It is common in grad school, maybe not in undergrad.
Tomas Ditrych: Is there any reason?
Vince Moita: JD hats are more expensive.
7:07
E-Board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
Encourage people to run for ASUCH. There will be an H3 that is sports team. The dodge ball
committee will do a table there.
Tom Russell: What does sports themed mean?
Ryan Brodovsky: There will be corn hole. There is talk about having the Warriors and Duke
games on. Maybe we will wear jerseys.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
Nothing new. Property law 6@6 coming up.
Ryan Porte: Encourage people to go.
Vince Moita: VALS was late for submissive. He is waiving the resolution process to get the
budget to save time.
John Clark: Was anyone else late?
Vince Moita: No.
DIRCA – Sara Tobin
No report. No contract for Spring Fling yet.
DIRCOMM – Sammie Acuna
No Report.
Secretary – Carli Suba
Service hours.
President – Nick Lansdown
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No report.
7:11
1L Rep Appointment
Nick Lansdown: Luis quit. Celia Guzman has been appointed.
Celia Guzman: Ran for 1L rep and still wanted it. Persistent.
Nick Lansdown: She and her friends have hosted community building events for Section 1. He
is appointing her. It requires majority vote.
Sammy Chang: Move to approve
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
No objections. It passes.
7:13
Minutes Approval
Sammy Chang: Move to approve.
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded.
No Objections. Minutes from February 2nd passes.
7:14
Resolutions
Ryan Brodovksy: Motion to suspend until after the emergency resolution.
Sammy Chang: Seconded.
No objections. Motion passes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to hear it.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
No objections. It passes.
Emergency Resolution: Daniel Morales
Daniel Morales:
Knows Justice Cueller. This would be a second annual visit to Hastings.
They are aiming to foster a growing relationship with CA Supreme Court. They have partnered
with the office of the Dean. He is asking to split the remainder of the cost. Estimate would be
$75-800. The Dean’s office is pitching in. La Raza and ASUCH would be putting in $250 each.
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There is a scheduling conflict with Justice Cuellar, so it will be postponed from the 23rd of Feb to
a later date, possibly March 15th.
Matt Olhausen: Moves to approve.
Sammy Chang: Seconded.
Vince Moita: Objects.
Matt Olhausen: Gives his time to Vince.
Vince Moita: What are the costs going to?
Daniel Morales: They anticipated 60 students, but they have 70 RSVPs. They are expecting
around 100. Doesn’t have the most recent estimate because the estimate is based on 60 students.
Has spent $50 for a poster to advertise. The costs would be $50 poster, and the rest for catering,
about $750.
Nick Lansdown: The office of publicity has agreed to take pictures.
Tom Russell: Will this be in the LBM?
Daniel Morales: It will be in Room B. Their board decided that the LBM is too big. They want
Justice Cuellar to be more accessible.
John Clark: How many people fit in Room B?
Daniel Morales: 98 according to Astra.
Vote:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita, Sara
Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Kristin Williams, Andrew
Levad, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas
Yeung, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Matthew Friedman, Celia Guzman
NAY: 0
Abstentions: 0
Resolution Passes.
Public Safety Resolution – Ryan Brodovsky and Sammy Chang
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Sammy Chang: Ryan, Ryan, and Sammy crashed the Staff Town Hall. One of the concerns was
the rumors of changing the public safety officers to private security guards or the UCSF security.
Section 4 did not want anything to do with UCSF police or private security. One of the reasons,
with UCSF, there might be delayed in reactions. With private security is that they are not
certified. They found out that there was job posting for public safety from 2012, which required
a certificate. They were required to have CPR knowledge. There are many things that public
safety officers are required to do. Each UC campus has public safety officers for their campus.
UC Hastings would be the first, not to have it. It would look bad for Hastings. Section 4 does
not feel safer with private security over public safety officers. They want the school and
administration to know how students feel. Students seem to feel strongly about this.
John Clark: What is the difference between this and what we did last semester?
Sammy Chang: They added to it and did research.
Ryan Brodovsky: In the Town Hall, there was a big emphasis on community. They wanted to
ensure that theme made it into the resolution.
Tom Russell: Is the idea on the switch cost?
Sammy chang: They don’t know. They can ask when the meet with the CFO.
Nick Lansdown: They have been considering this since 2007. ASUCH has always been for the
public safety officers.
Ian Nicholson: He went here conditioned on the fact that there were officers, as we are set in the
Tenderloin. They may want to calculate loss of tuition in their considerations.
Ryan Porte: One of Section 4 said she would consider transferring if they did not have this
security in place.
Matt Huzaineh: Is there something on the table? This seems like speculation.
Ryan Brodovsky: It is on the table. The Dean has been dancing around the issue.
Sammy Chang: The questions were very direct and the Dean could not answer.
Matt Huzaineh: What exactly was asked?
Ryan Brodovsky: There is an officer who just had his first son, will he have a job tomorrow?
Dean said to wait for the meeting on Tuesday.
Matt F: Did they mention anything about the security shuttle?
Ryan Brodovsky: It was not mentioned.
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Vince Moita: This is one of the biggest issues we are facing. There should be a demonstration.
Maybe a banner. There should be something more public, which would be more powerful. Then
our peers’ feelings would be stronger. A lot of students don’t know what is going on. If it were
more public then more people could voice their concerns.
Ryan Brodovsky: Agrees. This is the first step. We could take the resolutions and bring it to the
Dean. The students are with Public Safety Officers and confirm that it is no longer an issue.
Without such confirmation, we can pool the student body. There can be hard data to show how
the student body stands. Then if that doesn’t go over, then we can start protesting.
Matt Olhausen: You could do a petition.
Sammy Chang: There are a lot of avenues.
John Clark: Did the first resolution ever come up to someone important?
Nick Lansdown: He has given it to both the new and old deans. He brought it to the board of
directors.
Vince Moita: They aren’t on campus anymore. They aren’t scared for their safety. They should
keep hearing it.
Mike Khoury: Can someone follow up with the Dean to find out what happened at the meeting
today?
Ryan Brodovsky: The person who is head of the union was working today.
Tom Russell: What protective arms would security have?
Sammy Chang: They can carry a baton and pepper spray, but no guns.
Ryan Brodovsky: Everyone received the curious e-mail. There was a forwarded message from
the “whistleblower.” There were some concerns that UCSF people would be slow in response
times, there is a concern that they wouldn’t be police officers but security guards. The
Wikipedia page says that SFPD is close to here.
Matt Huzaineh: When they present this to the dean, he would like to frame it like we need
answers. If we are going to protest, we should have all the answers.
Ryan Brodovsky: He wants answers and information as well.
Matt Olhausen: If the UCSF police has stations, why couldn’t they incorporate these officers
here?
Ryan Brodovsky: This is all speculation. It could be SFPD, but the lack of information justifies
asking.
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Nick Lansdown: There was some talk about incorporating the UCSF with the Hastings police
officers. However, then they would have to pass the physicals that the police department
requires. Some of the Hastings officers wouldn’t pass.
Ryan Brodovsky: In the Town Hall, the PO said that there had been talks with UCSF about a
merger, but it seemed like UCSF wasn’t looking for new officers. If a merger were to take place,
there is a possibility that our officers would likely be laid off and be jobless. What are our
thoughts on that?
Matt Olhausen: It seems like if we have UCSF officers here, they would still need more staff so
it would makes sense to keep our officers on.
Jehmima Carril: Agrees with what has been said. Hastings has always been independent. As far
as community goes, these officers have come to know us and these officers have been here for
many years. Does not want to give their jobs to UCSF. That would be our community losing
out and they would be taking over everything. If it is a partnership they shouldn’t be taking over.
Matt Huzaineh: We should cross that bridge when we come to it.
Sammie Acuna: Start a petition now. Circulate it around campus.
Mike Khoury: We should wait to find out what happened at the meeting.
Sammy Chang: We want to have a position now since we are not meeting for another 2 weeks.
John Clark: What if they come back and say that we are going through with this? How do we
act to this?
Nick Lansdown: He will call a meeting.
Ryan Brodovsky: Or respond to the e-mails.
Matt Olhausen: Move to approve
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
No Objections. Resolution Passes.
Sara Tobin: Motion to adjourn.
Matt Olhausen: Seconded.
7:45
Adjourned.
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General Council Minutes
February 2, 2016
7:00
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vincent Moita, Sara Tobin,
Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Andrew Levad,
Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell,
Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran,
Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Matthew Friedman
Absent: Carlia Suba, Jason Morales, Gabrielle Lion, Lucas Yung, Pallavi Vishwanath
7:02
Public Comment
Nick Lansdown: Does anyone have any public comment?
Mike Khoury: I’d like to request that the 3Ls stick around after the meeting.
Nick Lansdown: Any other public comments? Hearing none, lets move on to the e-board reports.
7:03
E-Board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
1Ls please tell their sections that debates will be March 13, 2016 in room K from 3:30-4:30 p..m.
This will also go out in emails via the SharkByte and the Weekly. Elections will be videotaped
and uploaded to internet afterwards. Elections will be held starting March 21, 2016 at 9 a.m. until
Thursday, March 24 at 12 p.m. I hope, that by working with Student Services and ID, to have
results that day, going into 3-day weekend. Applications will be going out tomorrow. They
haven’t gone out yet because of the regulations being discussed tonight. If anyone has
recommendations or changes going forward, I ask that you please discuss this with the Elections
Committee, which is comprised of all 3Ls.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
The first 6@6 is coming up on February 11, 2016, with a judge. The internship opportunity is
live and up, it was in the SharkByte, and it is up on 6@6 website.
Nick L.: I was in LA this past weekend and I have a potential internship opportunity down there,
so be on the lookout for that.
TREASURER – Vince Moita
You’ll hear from me in about 10 minutes.
DIRCA – Sara Tobin
BOB is this week on the Beach, Alumni BOB is next week in the Law Café. There will be a
photo booth, beer, wine, food, and Hastings alums. The Alumni Office has been working really
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hard on this event, it will be great and everyone should attend. Details for Spring Fling are
forthcoming.
DIRCC – Sammie Acuna
No report.
SECRETARY – Carlia Suba via Sara Tobin
Make sure you do your service hours and CC the appropriate e-board member.
PRESIDENT – Nick Lansdown
Student Services wants feedback or suggestions for student swag.
Ideas shouted out: mugs, water bottles, sweaters, flash drives, padfolios, hats, crewnecks,
beanies, sweatpants, lapel pins, phone covers, MacBook covers, PC covers.
Nick Lansdown: If you have any more ideas, please let Student Services know.
7:09
Minutes Approval
Nick Lansdown: We need to approve the minutes from the last general council meeting.
Sammy Chang: Move to approve the January 19, 2016 minutes.
Monica Brock: Second.
Nick Lansdown: Are there any objections? Seeing and hearing no objections, the January 19,
2016 minutes are approved.
MINUTES APPROVED.
7:10
Spring Budget Approval –Vince Moita
Vince Moita: The tentative budget has been approved by the Finance Committee. There were a
couple of changes to the original budget because of the fact that we found some additional funds,
which I’ll explain in a moment. We raised approximately $7,000 from Barristers Ball, thanks to
the DirCA. A bulk of the money we allocated last semester, which was $21,000, was allocated to
accounts payable. I also went back and looked at all of the submitted reimbursement requests
from the fall semester and I figured out that $12,000 has already been paid. We originally
allocated $20,000 in that account. We left $9,000 in there so that people who still haven’t
submitted their reimbursement requests can have them paid out. We might still owe that money
if people reclaim it. This semester we had over $60,000 in requests and, as always, we don’t
have enough money to give each org what they ask for. The goal of the finance committee is to
use the money taken from students, which should go back to students directly, and larger events
should be for everyone. We reduced the amount allocated to cultural graduations. There is no
official stance in the budget guidelines about how much should go to these events. Historically,
we’ve given $800-$900 per cultural graduation. This year, we’ve allocated $500-$600 per
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cultural graduation. The reasoning is so that we could give more funding for 3L class as a whole.
Something that influenced our decision was that APALSA’s request was far smaller than some
of the other orgs, despite their large size. If APALSA, who has a lot of students graduating, can
have their cultural graduation for $500, the other orgs should be able to do the same. Through the
student activity fee and fundraisers, ASUCH should raise $52,000 this year. $56,000 has been
allocated this year to student orgs, because we anticipate that 8-10% of the funds that we
allocated won’t be used. Every year, people often don’t do the events they said they would do.
Additionally, we have a healthy resolution fund this semester of $3,000, still leaving an
opportunity for students to seek additional funding if they need it. Also, because the accounts
have more money than we previously thought, an emergency fund was created. We want to leave
the accounts healthy so that next year’s ASUCH is in a better position than we were this year.
John Clark: Why was the DirCA granted so much less than she asked for? How will this affect
Spring Fling?
Vince Moita: The two things we cut from Spring Fling were food and drinks. Myself and the
Finance Committee felt that this was the rational decision to make because we will get a larger
profit. The DirCA can either seek a resolution for that or we can choose to fund something else
with that money. I just didn’t think that food and drinks were worth it.
Ryan Brodovsky: I just want to say thanks to Vince and the Finance Committee for their hard
work and time spent on the budget process.
Vince Moita: Thank you.
Jehmima Carril: How much did Barristers Ball raise?
Vince Moita: About $7,000.
Jehmima Carril: So any money that Barristers Ball makes just goes back into the ASUCH fund?
Vince Moita: We make about $36,000 from the student activity fees per year. Part of it is
allocated to Barristers Ball and Spring Fling. Between these two events, we can raise anywhere
from $10,000 to $16,000 historically. Optimistically speaking, with $16,000, we get about
$52,000 to allocate out to student orgs. Between both this and last semester, we had a bit of flow
because we had a couple of student orgs that hadn’t been active in about 2 years. This added
about $5,000 to account, so we had a little bit more than normal. $56,000 was allocated with the
understanding that 8-10% wouldn’t be used.
Jehmima Carril: I would like to express my concerns. Regarding Spring Fling, as it relates to
Barristers and our whole experience here, I’d like to hear from Sara after I’m done talking what
she thinks would be a reasonable request because she got a lot less she asked for. I’m concerned
because Barristers did raise a lot of money and Spring Fling is something that we all look
forward to. It boosts the morale of the students and they really like it, and I’m afraid we’re not
allocating enough money to it. I don’t want to have to do an emergency resolution.
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Sara Tobin: Vince and I talked. We have two different roles in ASUCH. Vince’s role as the
Treasurer is to make sure that ASUCH allocates the maximum amount of funds as possible to
student orgs and to ensure that we make the most money from our fundraisers as possible. My
role as the DirCA is to throw successful and fun events. Those two roles don’t always line up.
That being said, when Vince and I met yesterday, we agreed to disagree regarding the food and
drink tickets. Vince told me that he does not support allocating funds to food and drinks. If it
were up to me, I would fund both of those things but it’s out of my hands. I, or someone else, can
either bring a resolution to ask for funding to cover those things and/or additionally, if I sell
tickets to Spring Fling early, funds made then can be used to cover the costs of food and drinks.
Since Vince and I agreed to disagree, this is something we can talk about going forward as a GC
and determine what we’d like to do.
Debbie Awolope: I have a question.
Vince Moita: In regard to the DirCA thing?
Debbie Awolope: No.
Vince Moita: Can it wait, please? I just want to stay on this topic before moving on. Back to the
DirCA thing, the amount allocated was based on historical precedent. We’re not trying to jip you
out of your experience, we’re just trying to be smart. I know we want to have a big party, but last
year, it was a fiasco and we’re trying to avoid that kind of situation.
Leeja Patel: The college has had to bail out ASUCH a lot because Spring Fling always loses
money.
Vince Moita: Are there any more questions regarding Spring Fling? Okay, Debbie?
Debbie Awolope: In regard to cultural orgs, can you please restate what you said about APALSA
only spending $500 for cultural graduation?
Vince Moita: I won’t state it myself, I’ll show you what they requested. Once again, all of these
docs will be made public on Kscope so everyone can see what was allocated and why.
Debbie Awolope: You mentioned that more of APALSA’s students are graduating from UC
Hastings and yet they only need $500. If APALSA is graduating more students, they probably
have a strong alumni network that can help them out financially. Other orgs don’t have that, so
why are we comparing all cultural orgs? APALSA probably has other resources that other orgs
don’t have, so why compare?
Vince Moita: More money was allocated to student orgs instead of cultural graduations. This
blanket rule has been applied because there needs to be some standardization.
Debbie Awolope: We don’t have control over who gets admitted to this school. I would admit
more African Americans if it were up to me, but I understand your point.
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Vince Moita: I hear you and I’m not sure what the happy medium is. We can also take another
look at the budget after Spring Fling.
Debbie Awolope: Can you please explain what we were allocated for the lawyers’ appreciation
event?
Vince Moita: It’s not as much as you requested, but we tried to do what we could do.
Debbie Awolope: Last spring semester, more money was given for the same event done by other
orgs.
Vince Moita: This year, we treated everyone standardized. We’re going to publish it so all orgs
can see that.
Debbie Awolope: Thank you, Vince.
Vince Moita: We do have extra money in the account that we can use and pull from, but we need
to talk about it and figure out where we’re going to go. Our job as ASUCH is to try to spread the
money out for the benefit of maximum students.
Debbie Awolope: If you discuss it further, I would like to be a part of that meeting.
Vince Moita: Okay, sounds good.
John Clark: Is $500 or $600 being allocated to each cultural graduation?
Vince Moita: It’s $600. It was in the doc that was sent out earlier tonight. We bring it up also
because it hasn’t been discussed in the past. Requests get higher and funds get lower so we have
to do something.
Ryan Brodovksy: All of the cultural orgs met at the end of the fall semester with administration,
put on by Student Services. They met to assign the spots during graduation weekend for the big
spaces on campus. Something I noticed, in terms of APALSA, is that their cultural grad is a
morning event. In the coming events of graduation, events are staggered breakfast through dinner
so that the events don’t conflict. I applaud you guys for trying to come up with a fair solution,
but I hope that the request from Debbie is something that can be kept in mind. After Spring
Fling, hopefully we can adjust the allocations so that more can be given for lunch and dinners,
which are more expensive. There isn’t much of a choice as to when to have the cultural grad
events because of the limited time when families are in San Francisco during graduation
weekend. It’s something to consider and hopefully we can work together as a GC to alleviate
everyone’s concerns.
Vince Moita: This is a tentative budget so it can be changed if we choose to, but I will say that
we will not get anymore money than we already have.
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Nick Lansdown: What if we were able to create a tier? If it’s a morning event, they get $500,
lunch events would receive $100 more, and dinner events would receive $200 more. That would
go in line with the advice of Ryan.
Vince Moita: I agree; I think something like that should happen. We should look at the budget as
a whole when it comes in and work together to try to get that money to those most in need to
make it fair somehow.
Laney Wall: Is that fair to do that? When the cultural orgs were choosing morning, afternoon and
evening events, students didn’t know that, that decision would affect their funding. It doesn’t
seem right to discuss this without all of those students here tonight.
Vince Moita: We could just do what we did last year and give everyone the $900, but the
problem we are faced with is that there is nothing in the budget guidelines about how to allocate
money for these events. If we keep it the same, another treasurer can just keep increasing it.
These events are great, but going through every single org’s budget is hard.
Ronnie Shou: Why don’t we have guidelines to make it more clear?
Vince Moita: It’s something Sammy Chang and I have talked about, creating a budget code.
Some people get more money because they know how to follow the guidelines and other orgs get
less money simply because, even though they have good ideas, they aren’t following the
guidelines. Less of our time could be spent talking about budget and resolutions so we could
actually self-govern and create a better student life here on campus instead of just focusing on
spending money.
John Clark: If we gave each org the $900 you just mentioned, wouldn’t that take away half of
our resolution budget?
Vince Moita: No, we have an $8,000 reserve fund for things like this, separate from the
resolution and accounts payable funds. And I think that there will be more orgs that won’t
request funding than the 8-10% I mentioned earlier. However, I think it’s important to discuss
these things so we can determine how to handle them going forward.
Nick Lansdown: Do we need to pass cultural grad. issue tonight?
Vince Moita: Yes, I’d like to.
Matt Olhausen: How does the student services fee get allocated? Where does it come from,
Student Services? David Seward?
Nick Lansdown: $20 of the fee goes to wellness, $5 of that fee goes to gym, and ASUCH has
voted to fund a few measures, including GAAP.
Andrew Levad: Isn’t GAAP gone?
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Leeja Patel: Should we do a quick overview? Our student activity fee is $80 a year. ASUCH gets
the largest amount, $40. Some of the things in the fund are voted on by the Board of Governors,
others are voted on by the student body every 7 years. GAAP is one of the things that students
chose to fund. GAAP is still active, they now meet here on campus. They traditionally get $5 a
year. Student Services gets $4 of student activity fee, which I think is the least. I think there is
another small fee that goes to Facilities. We can bring David Seward in to talk about it in more
detail. Students have the ability to vote on where the fee goes and you should vote on what fees
go to because the amount you get every year goes down.
Vince Moita: Let’s move to amend the budget.
Debbie Awolope: I recommend that if the cultural org has gotten exactly what they asked for,
then that should be fine. If they didn’t receive the full amount of their request, then I would say
that they should get $100-$200 more.
Ronnie Shou: For the orgs that didn’t get all they wanted, do we know if they fundraised on their
own?
Vince Moita: Some do and they noted it, others didn’t. But ASUCH is the first stop usually. We
don’t know how much orgs raised because they don’t tell us.
John Clark: Everyone is still open to the resolution process, right?
Vince Moita: Yes, which has $3,000, and we still have the war chest of $8,000 if we need that.
But that amount is money that, if we take from it, we are taking away from next year’s ASUCH
and they will be put in a similar position that we were in at the beginning of this year. I would
prefer not to do that.
Ryan Brodovoksy: Maybe this is a temporary fix idea, but my proposal is that we pass the budget
as it stands, and then write up a quick emergency resolution that says that we will fund cultural
orgs $200 more for their cultural grads following Spring Fling. Cultural orgs that need the money
will ask for it and maybe we can talk to the leaders of the cultural orgs and explain this to them.
Debbie Awolope: I’d prefer to get it now.
Ryan Brodovsky: I understand, Debbie, but – correct me if I’m wrong, Vince – orgs don’t get the
money or spend it now. I’m correct in that, right? We’ll have money at the meeting after Spring
Fling.
Vince Moita: Maybe by then we can create a financial code.
Mike Khoury: I agree with Ryan; I don’t think it needs to be resolved today because it will take
us a while. We should resolve it either before or after Spring Fling. Why is it that we don’t
assign money for cultural graduations per student? It’s just an idea to consider, instead of
funding cultural grads based on whether the event is in the morning, afternoon, or night.
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Jehmima Carril: I like Mike’s idea. I don’t think it’s fair to penalize organizations that didn’t ask
for more money. I do like having a blanket policy, however I think per student is better.
Matt Huzaineh: I just wanted to move to approve since Ryan is typing the emergency resolution
up now.
Vince Moita: Any more questions?
Nick Lansdown: There’s a motion on the table.
Mike Khoury: Seconded.
Nick Lansdown: Motion on the table is to approve the budget with the exception of the
resolution Ryan is typing up now in regards to the cultural grads. Any objections? Seeing and
hearing no objections, the motion to approve the budget passes.
THE SPRING 2016 BUDGET PASSES.
8:00
Resolutions
Elections regulations – Authored by Ronnie Shou and Keith Yetter, Sponsored by Ryan
Brodovsky
Keith Yetter: Hey everybody, we’re back. Get excited. This is the resolution that we brought last
meeting, which passed for the most part. The provision that didn’t pass has changed since two
weeks ago. We took out the portion that took away the orgs’ ability to receive funds. Now, all it
says is student orgs can’t endorse in ASUCH elections. We had a meeting with student org
leaders last week and had a fruitful discussion. Some orgs felt that the whole endorsement
process was a nightmare, others thought that this was too complicated and we should let orgs do
what they want to do. It was pretty inconclusive, but the vote came out 11-9 in favor. So, we’re
here to argue it again.
Ronnie Shou: We still believe that this is important to have in the regulations. Sammy Chang
surveyed section 4 and the feeling was that this is the right idea. A lot of people were hung up on
the sanctions, but still believed there should be something of this sort because they liked the
general idea.
Keith Yetter: Comments, questions, concerns?
Mike Khoury: 11-9 were in favor of this language?
Keith Yetter: In favor of general idea of prohibiting endorsements. I explained that the second
portion was not going to be popular and probably not the right step presently.
Ryan Porte: So what happens if an org does make an endorsement? What’s the point of having it
in there if it doesn’t have teeth? We could write something like, “It is our hope that …”
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Ronnie Shou: We’ve all taken statutory interpretation, “shall” means “shall.” We hope that
student orgs have leaders that will follow the guidelines.
Matt Huzaineh: I like that you took that out. There is still a small majority that approve that. I
need to get up and present something. I felt that there had to be something that supersedes what’s
going on here. I did some research. The student handbook has a section on student discipline that
has how we should conduct ourselves, whether we’re an org or a student. What I want to bring to
your attention is the speech and advocacy portion of student regulations. Please read it to
yourselves. I’ve personally talked to a few people.
Ryan Brodovsky: How do we access this? Is it the student handbook?
Matt Huzaineh: No, this is where the student handbook is derived from.
Ryan Brodovksy: Where do we find it?
Matt Huzaineh: I can send it to everyone later. This is free speech; this is something that people
can file grievances for.
Monica Brock: The text says “members of groups,” not groups as a whole. That is how I
interpret the language.
Matt Huzaineh: You want to flirt with violating the rules?
Luis Beltran: Why are we debating this? We spent an hour and a half on it. I’m opposed to the
new regulation as well, and my mind isn’t going to change, but I think we should have a cutoff to
this debate. Motion to end debate.
Matt Huzaineh: I move to strike.
Sammy Chang: You can’t debate it. We need a 2/3 vote.
Ryan Brodovsky: What is being voted on?
Nick Lansdown: Call to question ends the debate. All in favor?
VOTE:
Yays: Sara, Laney, Mike, John, Vince, Matt F., Christian, Sean, Tomas D., Luis, Ryan B.,
Nicholas R., Ryan P., Sammy C., Sammie A.
Nays: Monica, Andrew, Kristin, Jehmima, Keith, Ronnie, Tom R., Matt O., Matt H.
Abstentions: Gracie, Ian
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DEBATE ENDS.
Nick Lansdown: Debate is closed. We will vote on the resolution itself.
Christian Urbano: Can you please clarify?
Nick Lansdown: Just the highlighted portion of resolution is being voted on. All in favor?
VOTE:
Yays: Sara, Laney, John, Matt F., Vince, Sean, Monica, Keith, Ronnie, Sammy C.
Nays: Ian, Tom R., Kristin, Andrew, Luis, Nick L., Nicholas R., Ryan P., Matt H
Abstentions: Jehmima, Mike, Ryan B., Christian, Matt O., Sammie A., Tomas D.
RESOLUTION PASSES.
Rescindment of the portion of the ASUCH guidelines – Matt Huzaineh
Matt Huzaineh: This has some history to it, this has been carried over from last year. You may
recall a very contentious GC meeting after elections. Some wanted to form ad-hoc disciplinary
committee and it failed. I advocated against it. The implication of students disciplining students
is wrong in my opinion. There are 7 pages in the student handbook on how students should be
disciplined. ASUCH doesn’t discipline students here, only in certain circumstances. Forming 2
tribunals is not what we do. Reasonable minds can differ on this concept. It’s flat out against the
rules, it’s superseded by administration. That student could have the option to go to
administration and throw away what we did here. The appeals process is especially flawed. If the
Elections Committee comes out and says this person has to forfeit, and they appeal, and it’s
before the meeting, we are essentially deciding the race in this room. We have to protect the
students out there. Imagine if a student outside of ASUCH is labeled as having committed an
impropriety, do you expect them to feel comfortable appealing to us?
Nick Lansdown: Vince, you have a question?
Vince Moita: It is entirely in our power to judge our peers on how we want to conduct ourselves.
It’s a privilege to be on ASUCH. It’s our ability to take that power away. If someone is going to
go do something wrong, it should be within our jurisdiction to say no, that should not be done. If
somebody violates this, and it goes to the Board of Governors, do I want this person to be kicked
out of school? Do we really want to do that?
Matt Huzaineh It’s not up to us to bring a grievance, it’s up to the student who files a grievance
with administration.
Keith Yetter: It should come as no surprise that I object. We’re not “punishing” anyone. In fact,
the ASUCH constitution gives the Elections Committee, and the GC, the authority to set the
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terms of and the qualifications of the election. The most basic includes the fact that you have to
fill out an application or you can’t run. If you violate the rules, you can’t run. Talk about
outsiders feeling alienated – last year members of this body abused their ASUCH powers in
order to sway the election. How do you think that made people feel?
Matt Huzaineh: That’s why Student Services took away those privileges.
Nick Lansdown: We’re not dictating the election candidates.
Keith Yetter: We can dictate the qualifications. Can we go back to the resolution you’re
proposing? Last year, after the crazy elections, we tried to deal with what happened. Our
president was bombarded by members of the student body and administration during the process,
and asked to do something. She had no power or authority to do something. The next GC
meeting she presented something in an attempt to remedy the situation and was attacked.
Facebook, are you kidding me? It’s essential that if we have the ability to set the elections
regulations that we have the ability to then enforce those regulations. If we leave it like we did
last year, like the wild, wild west, then we have no remedies when things happen. I don’t agree
that we “punish” students, but what do you think we will use this authority to do? This if for
egregious circumstances that happened, like last year. We’re not crazy, unreasonable people who
are just going to kick people out of this election. You talk about the need for a fair process, but
your remedy is Facebook. I just don’t see how, after the nightmare that we went through last
year, how we can honestly leave it to the wild west again and hope that nothing goes wrong, and
when it does, there’s nothing we can do. At least this is a process that, if a grievance comes to
Elections Committee, which is only the 2 of us because we’re the only ones who bothered to
show up because the other 3Ls shirked their responsibilities, yet want to criticize the process.
Had you all been a part of it, it might have come out differently.
Matt Huzaineh: Egregious circumstances, that’s not what the resolution says. You tried to sneak
this in at the last minute. Instead of the GC approving, we have 2 people determining, policing,
who should withdraw candidacy. 6 of your 8 peers support this and they have nothing to gain
from it.
Ronnie Ronnie: This is a hotly debated topic, but why didn’t this debate happen earlier? I’ve
worked extensively with Ryan and Keith to craft these things, and I’m a little hurt that none of
the 3L reps bothered to even discuss this important issue with Keith and I, if they were
concerned. This has already been passed by GC. This wasn’t sneaky. We had to pass it early on
in the semester to lock in the election dates. Currently, after a misconduct, there is no recourse.
What you’ve done right now is essentially encouraged people because there is no after the fact
remedy. Mentioning Facebook, you’re doing the very thing that Keith are trying to prevent. As a
student of ASUCH, I want to be proud of the people who were elected and I don’t necessarily
feel that way from last year. Your policy seems to just say, this is a small community. What it
doesn’t say is that encouraging this kind of conduct rips our small community apart. Having stuff
like this happen in an election damages personal relationships within our community and
professional reputations going forward. I disagree with what your resolution is saying because it
doesn’t make students feel like ASUCH can or will do anything if mud-slinging behavior occurs.
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Matt Huzaineh: You characterized it as a nightmare, but it’s unfair. Why didn’t I go to the
Elections Committee first? Ronnie, I apologize to you. I know Keith and I have a philosophical
difference and I didn’t want to argue it twice. I, and many others, feel strongly about students not
disciplining students. I’m not comfortable with this.
Ryan Brodovsky: We’re running out of time.
Lidia Lopez: I was the Internal Vice President last year and I ran the elections. I’m here to share
with you what my experience was and I’ll make this quick. Make of it what you will. I have a lot
of concerns about not allowing student orgs to endorse. Organizations depend on ASUCH to
give them funds for the students. Last year, as I recall, Ryan and others received questions from
student orgs because they wanted to know what students running for ASUCH could do for their
orgs. Ultimately, ASUCH is serving the orgs and not individual students. In getting the word out
about running, many students aren’t engaged as a whole. The way to find out is through orgs and
the emails they send out. Having only Ronnie and Keith on the Elections Committee puts a lot of
responsibility on you two. You won’t have a lot of time during elections to penalize students.
Kristin Williams: Now that the rest of the 3L reps have manifested an intent to be a part of the
process, we should meet and come up with a better bill. I don’t fully understand the need for an
enforcement provision for individual students. Student orgs who receive ASUCH funds should
be bound and the ones that don’t shouldn’t.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to postpone the vote on this amendment and request that, following a
vote on the Emergency Resolution, we move to extend the meeting by 15 minutes.
Jehmima Carril: Second.
Nick Lansdown: The motion on the table is to postpone. If that should pass, we will hear the
Emergency Resolution.
Vince Moita: Objection. I thought we weren’t discussing that?
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to call to question.
Jehmima Carril: Second.
Nick Lansdown: Motion on the table is to end debate and postpone Matt’s resolution. All in
favor?
VOTE:
Yays: Jehmima, John, Vince, Matt F., Matt O., Sean, Monica, Sammie A., Ryan P., Gracie,
Ryan B., Sammy C., Ian
Nays: Tom R., Kristin, Andrew
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Abstentions: Luis, Mike, Nicholas R., Tomas D.
RESOLUTION TABLED.
EMERGENCY RESOLUTION
Nick Lansdown: Now we’re going to vote to hear the emergency resolution. Any objections?
Seeing and hearing no objections, we’re going to hear the emergency resolution.
Ryan Brodovsky: [Read text of emergency resolution]. I believe Vince wanted to add something.
Vince Moita: No, it’s fine.
Mike Khoury: What happens if Spring Fling loses money?
Ryan Brodovsky: This doesn’t guarantee any money, but, if we all support it, that should be
enough.
Tom Russell: Why does this matter then?
Vince Moita: To put it on the books.
Ryan Brodovsky: I know people who are scared to ask for funds here because of the onslaught of
questions, so this gives student orgs a message that we have their backs.
Sammy Chang: Move to table.
Ryan Brodovsky: Object.
Sammy Chang: I just didn’t think we would make a wise decision with 5 minutes left.
Ryan Brodovsky: I hear your point. I am very saddened to see so many people emotionally,
mentally, and physically affected by the past hour and a half that we’ve been sitting here. With
that being said, we also had members of the ASUCH community as a whole, being all students
here on campus, come here to learn and ask about the budgeting process and what happened to
their individual org. There was a lot of discussion of their issues and the shortfalls that our
budget process has. We had agreed with far more level heads early on in the meeting, as a GC, to
discuss this. It doesn’t force the orgs to take the $200 nor guarantees it, it just says that ASUCH
hears your concerns and we want to work on a solution that is amenable to everyone. By passing
this today, we are saying to the student body that we support and foster the multicultural
community that makes this school great. I think we have gotten far too caught up in the nitty
gritty of the election details that are far better served in smaller committees beforehand, where
the actual and total members of the Elections Committee, which is all 8 of the 3Ls, can come
together and deal with the election issues that we will discuss hopefully shortly. In the meantime,
we can do this for the student population.
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Jehmima Carril: I don’t see the harm in this. I agree with Ryan, we aren’t guaranteeing money,
but we are showing that these events are important enough to hear first. It’s good to have on
paper so that student orgs know that we value them. Motion to extend the meeting by 15
minutes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Second.
Nick Lansdown: Objections? Seeing and hearing none, Jehmima, please continue.
Jehmima Carril: We are all going to feel awesome when we reach graduation and I think it’s
important to support this resolution. Passing this isn’t going to hurt anything; in fact, I think it
will help. Motion to call to question.
Ryan Brodovsky: Second
Nick Lansdown: All in favor of ending debate for the Emergency Resolution?
VOTE:
Yays: Jehmima, Ian, Laney, Ronnie, Keith, Mike, John, Monica, Ryan B., Gracie, Christian,
Sean, Sammie A., Ryan P., Luis, Tomas D., Matt F., Matt O., Kristin, Andrew, Nicholas R., Matt
H., Vince
Nays: Tom R.
Abstentions: Sammy C.
MOTION TO END DEBATE PASSES.
Ryan B.: Motion to suspend Robert’s Rules for the rest of this resolution?
Sara: Second.
Unanimous vote in favor.
MOTION PASSES.
Nick Lansdown: If you want to pass the emergency resolution, please raise your hand.
VOTE:
Yays: Jehmima, Ian, Laney, Mike, John, Vince, Christian, Luis, Sean, Sammie A., Ryan B.,
Ryan P., Gracie, Monica, Matt H.
Nays: 0
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Abstentions: Tom R., Nicholas R., Sammy C., Keith, Ronnie, Tomas D.
THE MOTION PASSES. ROBERT’S RULES BACK IN ACTION.
Matt Olhausen: In Robert’s Rules, can we vote by voice?
Nick Lansdown: Yes.
Sara Tobin: It would be difficult to tell if the vote was close.
Back to Matt’s Huzaineh’s resolution
Vince Moita: I just want to share my personal story from elections last year. During my 1L year,
I wasn’t part of ASUCH. I didn’t get any endorsements, including the one from the ASUCH
email. When I first said that I was running for an e-board position, I didn’t say which one. I
immediately got texts from 2 different people sitting on this board now, telling me not to run. I
am a determined person, so it didn’t deter me. But if we don’t have guidelines like the ones
proposed here, students will be deterred. Luckily, we can pass some guidelines that we don’t
have to take up to the next level, like the Board of Governors. I think my story can easily happen
to someone else unless we pass something like this.
Matt Huzaineh: It’s the student, not us, who will take it to the next level, not us. They can go to
administration. This is not in our purview. We’re trying to restrict free speech from orgs. You
guys do not do your research. You guys got it wrong. We’re not allowed to take funding from
student orgs. Whether you agree that it’s in our power is irrelevant.
Nick Lansdown: Matt is right that the student can go to administration.
Tomas Dytrich: I agree with Matt on this. Like Parliament in other countries, you don’t decide
who’s going to run. It’s not up to us to decide in these kinds of cases.
Ryan Brodovksy: I have 4 things I’ve got written down that I feel need to be said. The fact that
we’ve gotten so heated over this is just evidence enough that there might need to be this kind of
help so that this council can communicate better. First, there has been talk about how we are
unauthorized as a body to pull student org funding and that no research was done. Actually, our
bylaws do permit this council to pull student org funding, which is found in Bylaws section
6.1(b). It is ambiguous about whether it applies to orgs that don’t attend the first general meeting
or meetings that are called by Internal Vice President at the beginning of each semester.
However, It is very clear that our bylaws, which have been passed multiple times, that
administration has not made a complaint about language that seems to have been in there for at
least 3 years. Second of all, I want to thank you, Vince, for sharing something that is very
difficult in this public forum. I applaud you for your courageousness in sharing it and for
bucking those people who did something that was just deplorable, for doing the best you could,
and for winning and being the best Treasurer for this council. I hope that for something like this,
we can pass something so that no one has to go through what you did. Third, the way the current
regulations are set, there is a bias against current members in ASUCH. [Ask Ryan for bylaws
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sections] allows for member of GC to be removed with discretion, if that person is nominated by
the President for removal. That person has the ability to reply, and would then need a ¾ vote to
be removed. If everyone who is eligible to run, chose to run, they would find themselves liable to
removed from office. This levels the playing field between ASUCH and non-ASUCH members.
Fourth, there was a complaint that there wouldn’t be an ASUCH GC meeting when infractions
would occur. That would be –
Tom Russell: The meeting is over.
Nick Lansdown: Does anyone want to extend the meeting?
Sean Larson: Motion to extend the meeting 15 minutes.
Jehmima Carril: Second.
Nick Lansdown: Nays?
VOTE:
Yays: Ryan B., Matthew H., Vince, Sara, Sammie A., Mike, Kristin, Keith, Ian, Sean, Christian,
Monica, Jehmima, Sammy C., Ryan P., Gracie, Nicholas R., Matr O., Tomas D., Ronnie,
Matthew F.
Nays: Laney, Andrew, Tom, John
Abstentions: 0
MOTION PASSES.
Ryan Brodovsky: To continue my point, the President can call a GC meeting whenever he wants.
If the Elections Committee found that something unethical occurred, they could meet with Nick.
Going back to substance of this resolution, I am very concerned, echoing Keith and Ronnie, by
using Facebook as a platform. There was absolute outrage in September when a student posted a
Change.org petition in the Hastings Facebook groups. We are allowing students to mudsling on a
public forum, that is always there, and doesn’t go away. I am terrified of us ending up in Above
The Law because that is going to hurt us as we look for jobs.
Matt Huzaineh: The handbook should provide plenty of remedies for that. I don’t understand
why you’re advocating for a disciplinary tribunal.
Nick Lansdown: 7.5 and 7.6 were passed at beginning of year to rectify that problem. Next on
the list is Ronnie.
Ronnie Shou: I understand the concerns about a small group of 3Ls being the arbiters, but I
disagree that the Elections Committee is prohibiting anyone from participating in the election.
Anyone who fulfills requirements can run. You mistake the privilege of running for an office as
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a right. In any sort of race or game, you can be ejected for violating the rules. My worry is that
you are taking a very firm stance of your way or the highway as a way to interpret the rules. That
isn’t productive. It may be that the candidates themselves are not mudslinging, but their friends
might or the candidates might encourage others to do so. There has to be some sort of regulation
and enforcement mechanism in place.
Matt Huzaineh: I say it is a right to run for office.
Tom Russell: There are multiple ways to interpret all of the language that you guys are putting
forward. It is a right. This is government, we’re adults here, sometimes people hurt other
people’s feelings, then just stay out of ASUCH if you can’t handle it. I’m not saying we should
be mudsling but I don’t want a three person police force. Just strike the Facebook part.
Andrew Levad: I’d like to give my time to Leeja.
Leeja Patel: I was talking to Keith about a compromise. Want to explain, Keith?
Keith Yetter: This has gotten really ugly, sorry for the extent to which I contributed to that. I
would like to say, I will support the resolution if we take out all of the whereases and leave it so
that Elections Committee can remove people. I would like to talk to the GC of the university and
come up with something tangible that is within the students’ power to better regulate these
elections. I want to do it the right way and I don’t want to continue the degradation of the
relationships in this room.
John Clark: Second.
Nick Lansdown: Amendment to strike all whereases.
Tom Russell: Point of clarification. What are we voting on?
Nick Lasdown: To strike the whereases.
Leeja Patel: Do you want to even vote on a resolution?
Nick Lansdown: Yes, to vote on what to remove.
Keith Yetter: To resolve ambiguities with the GC that wouldn’t apply this year but hopefully
apply in the future.
Nick Lansdown: Objections to leaving everything highlighted?
NO OBJECTIONS. THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION IS STRICKEN.
Nick Lansdown: Voting now to approve highlighted portion of the resolution. All in favor of
removing this portion, that removes the portion that allows the Elections Committee to remove
people from the election guidelines passed 2 weeks ago?
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VOTE:
Yays: Ian, Keith, Ronnie, Mike, Laney, Kristin, Andrew, John, Matt F., Tomas D., Sammie A.,
Ryan P., Matt H., Nicholas R., Nick L.
Nays: Vince, Matt O.
Abstentions: Jehmima, Monica, Christian, Ryan B., Gracie, Sammy C., Sara
RESOLUTION PASSES.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to adjourn.
Jehmima Carril: Second.
9:33
Adjourned.
General Council Minutes
January 19, 2016
7:00
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita,
Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike Khoury, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Ronnie
Shou, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion,
Nicholas Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman
Absent: Chris Ballard, Tomas Ditrych, Kristin Williams, Andrew Levad
7:02
Public Comment
Nick Lansdown: Internet problems have been raised with the Dean.
Monica Brock: Does ASUCH want a spare microwave?
Nick Lansdown: Yes. There will be a Town Hall tomorrow in the ARC from 3:30-4:30 to meet
Dean Faigman.
7:04
E-Board Reports
IVP: Ryan Brodovsky
Elections are coming up.
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EVP: Matt Huzeineh
They are getting 6@6’s done. They have an internship through a 6@6 event coming up for a job
in LA.
DIRCA: Sara Tobin
First BOB is next week and we will have 3 BOBs in a row. We are having one more BOB this
semester than next semester. The extra is funded by alumnae on Feb 11. Sign ups are coming
up.
Treasurer: Vince Moita
Budgets are due on the 29th at 11:50 pm. The finance committee will review the budget on the
31st. Tentative budget will be ready by the evening of the 31st to be approved on Feb 2nd. We
have more money in the account than expected.
DIRCOM: Sammie Acuna
She just sent out the first Shark Byte. She will be sending out things on Sunday.
Secretary: Carli Suba
Resolutions are due on Saturdays at 7:00. ASUCH service hours are required again.
President: Nick Lansdown
Dodgeball tournament fundraiser is being organized this semester. There will be a nominal fee
for participating teams. The winner will get a larger amount of the pot. This will happen either
in February or March.
Matt Olhausen: How many per team?
Nick Lansdown: 6
Sara Tobin: We wanted 2 tournaments, maybe the one in February to benefit student orgs.
Vince Moita: We could do a table at an H3 to make shirts for the teams.
Nick Lansdown: This is just a fun fundraising event to raise money. Ryan will field questions
as the point person.
7:11
Emergency Resolution
Elections Resolution Presented by: Ryan Brodovsky, Ronnie Shou, Keith Yetter
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The Elections Committee met. According to the constitution, all 3L reps are part of the elections
committee. Ronnie and Keith have been helping out a lot. They will be fielding questions on the
resolution.
No Objections: Resolution will be heard.
Keith Yetter: They have been working on the elections guidelines.
Tom Russell: Is this all new or are there changes?
Keith Yetter: Section 2 has changed, the dates are changed, and it’s never been in the
regulations to make debates mandatory.
Nick Lansdown: IVP announces guidelines for election.
Sara Tobin: This is just guidelines for the upcoming election?
Keith Yetter: Yes.
Sara Tobin: Would like to strike Section 2. She understands the sentiment of not putting
pressure on orgs to endorse someone, but disagrees with penalizing orgs who do.
Tom Russell: Seconded.
Ryan Brodovsky: Object.
Keith Yetter: The reasoning is 2 fold: transparency and community.
Ronnie Shou: This is also in line with what other UC campuses.
Keith Yetter: Transparency – The primary purpose is to hand out student fees to student orgs.
There could be undue influence involved with orgs endorsing candidates. Community –
Elections on campus can get personal and get very ugly. This is a way to eliminate some of the
stress. This will prevent student orgs from being bombarded by candidates. This is the rule at
Cal. There, any org receiving student funds could not endorse candidates. Individuals can
endorse candidates, but not the orgs. They did look at other UCs and their bylaws regarding
elections: Cal is the only one with an outright ban, but the majority of the others have complex
regulations on reporting and transparency in order to achieve transparency goals. Hastings does
not have the resources for that.
Ronnie Shou: Both she and Keith were on boards on orgs last year and it felt disingenuous for
candidates to randomly e-mail them. The reason why they did it this way, is that they are
stepping away from having orgs sponsor candidates, but if student leaders want to endorse, then
they can personally endorse. They are not trying to restrict the freedom of speech to endorse
candidates. They want to cut down on drama regarding elections.
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Keith Yetter: Procedurally, they could limit the consequences to 1 semester. Or they could
eliminate the consequences completely. There are other options rather than striking the whole
thing.
Sara Tobin: She understands the rational, but thinks that the consequences are too harsh.
Penalizing the entire new e-board for an old e-board’s endorsement is unfair.
Christian Urbano: Clarification – this is just orgs, not leaders banned.
Ryan Brodovksy: Clarification – there was discussion on having a meeting with student orgs
and having this provision will be expressed to them. It will be known that leaders as individuals
will be able to endorse and it won’t be too restrictive. This way everyone is aware of the policy.
Tom Russell: Doesn’t see the point in saying that leaders can endorse but orgs cannot. He
doesn’t think it’s worth sacrificing orgs the ability endorse who they want. If the purpose of
ASUCH is to distribute funds, then they shouldn’t take it away. It’s arbitrary. It’s a secret
ballot, so it does not seem to have a profound impact. Nobody is holding anything above their
heads. It’s a transparency thing too.
Ronnie Shou: On the last point - that wasn’t what she meant to articulate. If a student joins an
org and decides to run for a position, then there will be bias towards that person because her
association with that org.
Sean Larson: Suggests that maybe instead of using funds as sanctions, then having it come to a
vote in ASUCH.
Mike Khoury: Agrees with Tom. If an organization feels strongly about someone, they should
be able to support a candidate publicly. There is transparency in budgets. He was a leader in
multiple orgs and liked having candidates reaching out to him. He thinks it’s a good thing.
Ronnie Shou: Understands as a student leader that it is nice to have candidates ask for
endorsement. The leaders of the organization should not speak for the whole organization. The
fact that student leaders can endorse puts the onus on candidates to do the legwork. They have to
reach out to each person instead of sending out blanket e-mails. They have to be more engaged
with the student constituency.
Vince Moita: Ran last year, and felt offended when there was an e-mail that went out that had
endorsed others. He felt upset as Treasurer to fund orgs that did not endorse him. He did not let
it affect his duties, but it was upsetting. This new rule will prevent this from happening in the
future.
Matt Huzaineh: Agrees with Sara and Tom. It is up to the org on how they decide to endorse
candidates. The current ASUCH members have an upper hand because they are affiliated to orgs
specifically. Treasurer and IVP have connections with the organization. It’s not fair to other
candidates.
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Keith Yetter: Isn’t’ that what this rule is preventing? It levels the playing field.
Ronnie Shou: Assuming that Ryan isn’t going to every general body meeting for the orgs. IVP
is only dealing with a specific executive board. The leaders who have the most power and
control in these orgs will no longer be able to choose who the orgs support. As a member of Ms.
JD and believing that a certain candidate is best for IVP is no different from believing that as an
individual. This is different from a blanket support from an org.
Matt Huzaineh: The fine and distinct line is too fine. They are telling them that they have to
endorse a certain way or not.
Ronnie Shou: There can be disparity on how groups choose. They are eliminating the disparity
and leveling the playing field. That is how a campaign should be run.
Matt Huzaineh: It stymies the orgs’ ability to self-govern.
Keith Yetter: They want eliminate the unfair advantages. Because people have more visibility
to student orgs, they will have an advantage. This regulation will eliminate that disparity.
Luis Beltran: Opposes this resolution. This makes people less responsive to the needs of the
orgs. It takes power away from orgs to voice their support from a candidate.
Keith Yetter: Candidates still have the ability to go to the student org meetings and talk to them
and this rule encourages them to do it. It incentivizes them to talk to all students, not just the
student org leaders. It makes it more democratic.
Nick Lansdown: People who have spoken will be called on later.
Monica Brock: The sanctions are strong, but this is a great step of moving away from being a
popularity contest. The e-mails last year of blanket support made her uncomfortable. This isn’t
preventing advocating for candidates. It is fair that student leaders are prevented from speaking
for the entire org.
Sean Larson: Echoes Monica’s sentiment. Makes candidates more beholden to individual
students rather than group politics. There is enough “fuckery” in the process. Having it be
catered to groups removes the sense of closeness to ASUCH and people don’t take it seriously
because they are removed from the process. Leaving it to the individual will make them closer to
ASUCH.
Ronnie Shou: Describing how it works to the 1Ls – a candidate would e-mail student leaders
and telling them about themselves and asking for endorsement. It is awkward. Nobody wanted
to write an e-mail, and nobody liked receiving an e-mail. This resolution addresses the concern
that Luis had by closing the option of contacting the president and getting endorsements that
way. It opens up the democratic process and opens up face time between candidates and
students.
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Keith Yetter: Their orgs had the experience of the leadership being contacted for endorsement.
This goes to the larger problem that there is no process. The other UCs have highly regulated
processes. Things have to be filed with transparency.
Tom Russell: Student leaders can say no. That is their job as student leaders.
Matt Olhausen: Is there any way to mandate in-person advocacy for endorsements?
Keith Yetter: There’s no way to enforce that. This eliminates the problem all together.
Matt Olhausen: Did they consider less stringent consequences?
Keith Yetter: They are open to changing it. Or they can take out the enforcement all together.
Vince Moita: They are focusing on what happens with people getting elected, but beyond the
initial election process, when you have someone elected, they are probably going to vote along
the lines of those who were endorsed. This takes away the ability for organizations to vote.
Organizations are not people.
Keith Yetter: It is apparent that there are some orgs that are influential and received a lot of
money and those that are not as influential and did not receive a lot of money. As we try to open
up ASUCH to the entire body and make it more accessible, we need to try our best to eliminate
that perception.
Leeja Patel: Endorsements in her day was only allocated if the majority of an org decided to
endorse a candidate. You would have to run this by the general council. Does the UC law
schools do this?
Keith Yetter: Does not know. The relationship between the law schools and the campuses are
amorphous at best. Boalt is part of the graduate student union. There is no current standard on
what constitutes earning an endorsement by an organization.
Tom Russell: Paragraph above Section 2. Who is the elections committee?
Keith Yetter: IVP chairs, but if the IVP decides to run for something, he/she must recuse
his/herself. 3L reps are on the committee since they have no biases.
Jehmima Carril: Thinks that it should be opened up to more than the elections committee.
Thinks that everyone has bias. Likes the idea that this should be a council vote.
Keith Yetter: This is appealable to the general council.
Jehmima Carril: She was referring to section 6.
Keith Yetter: This just reflects what is in the bylaws.
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Ryan Porte: Doesn’t understand why this is a current issue. Would like to know what went
down last year.
Keith Yetter: There were certain orgs that endorsed certain candidates without ever hearing from
other candidates from the same position. There were people from ASUCH sending out e-mails
to the student body sending endorsements. It was an ugly 2-3 weeks. There was a lot of
resentment on campus. It was even worse if you were a leader of a student org.
Ryan P:orte Could we be denying future candidates an experience in power politics?
Ronnie Shou: Argues that this would be more like real politics. That’s why real politicians have
to make face time and kiss babies. In terms of a student government election, it’s not too much
of a burden to have candidates to make the human connections and explain why they are the best
candidate. No every org did this, but she does know that if a candidate asked for an
endorsement, the issue on Palestine/Israeli issue.
Ryan Porte: That could have been a campaign misstep and a lesson.
Keith Yetter: Doesn’t think that this is replicable in a grand scale. Has worked with someone in
politics, and this is not politics. Would rather keep the focus here on education and friendships
rather than who voted for who and how to get endorsements.
Nick Lansdown: Understands the sentiment. Has there been discussion on how to regulate
endorsements by organizations?
Ryan Brodovsky: The bylaws provide restriction that allows for a year of ASUCH funds to be
restricted.
Nick Lansdown: If we don’t want to open ourselves up to this, we need to be forward thinking.
Maybe endorsement training before allowing an org to give endorsements.
Keith Yetter: The funds are the enforcement mechanism. They can institute mandatory training
and include procedures to endorse. There would not be an enforcement mechanism to that.
Jon Clark: Likes the idea of non-endorsement. Is it possible to do this in parts: passing part of it
and tabling the rest.
Keith Yetter: The problem with waiting is that the election is coming up. It has to get passed
quickly.
Jon Clark: Can we tell a group how to do procedures?
Ronnie Shou: Had this concern. Does not think that laying steps would be beneficial because
there is no way to enforce it. Also, there is a problem of ASUCH overreaching into their orgs.
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Nick Lansdown: IVP can set off mechanisms that all the orgs utilize. This will prevent student
leaders from endorsing for the org. Every organization that falls under ASUCH would have to
be in compliance to a set of regulations and organization cannot go rogue.
Keith Yetter: What is the punishment if they don’t follow?
Nick Lansdwon: It would have to be when the IVP meets with them in the fall. It would be a
standardized training. We talk about organization autonomy, but we are imposing what we
believe is the right solution to the problem.
Ronnie Shou: Curious to hear what people think would be good guidelines. There would be
discrepancies in voting and participation between the orgs and getting the same mechanisms to
work the same way for all the orgs.
Nick Lansdown: The IVP can give a link, and the org leaders can distribute it to the rest of the
org.
Ronnie Shou: What happens if people don’t vote?
Nick Lansdown: They had an opportunity to vote.
Ronnie Shou: So if 2 people wanted someone, then that would be the vote for 90 other
members?
Luis Beltran: Does not think it is fair to have this vote without consulting their constituents.
Sammy Chang: Echoes Luis. Would like to move to table this.
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded.
Ryan Brodovsky: Object. There seems to be massive contention about number 2. There needs
to be regulations set so that people who are not hear at the meeting have a chance to know the
regulations if they are going to run. More concerned with the other sections of the resolution. In
the interest of other candiates who are not here, he urges that 7.5 and 7.6 and 3, 4, and 5 be
passed today so that people have an equal opportunity to learn about running for ASUCH. Then
General Council can discuss 2 at a later date.
Sammy Chang: Motion was just to table 2.
Ryan Brodovsky: Withdraws objection.
VOTE:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Mike
Khoury, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Ronnie Shou, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Samuel Chang,
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Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman
NAYS: 0
Abstentions: Lanie Wall, Ryan Brodovsky, Carli Suba
Section 2 will be tabled for the next meeting
VOTE on the rest of the resolution:
YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Sara Tobin, Sammie Acuna, Keith
Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Ronnie Shou, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian
Urbano, Monica Brock, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Pallavi Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman
NAY: 0
ABSTENTIONS: Mike Khoury, Jehmima Carill, Ryan Brodovsky, Gracie Wright, Sara Tobin,
Ryan Porte, Sammy Chang, Carli Suba
RESOLUTION PASSES without Section 2
8:20
Adjourned
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General Council Minutes
November 12, 2015
7:30
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba,
Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
Absent: Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Jason Morales, Andew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris
Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Pallavi
Vishwanath, Matthew Friedman, Samuel Chang (Left early)
7:31
Public Comment
Ryan Brodovsky: Thanks to the veterans!
Luis Beltran: Complaints regarding the internet. People are frustrated.
Nick Lansdown: This is a constant problem. IT is putting safeguards to preempt this. It is an
old system. They are trying to make it better. He can find out more info from IT and relay the
info
Leeja Patel: It would help to know when it was really bad.
Luis Beltran: It was on Tuesday. Someone posted on his Facebook page that they were trying to
turn in their memo and it ended up being late.
Gabby Lion: Tuesday around 4-6.
Nick Lansdown: H3 will be November 20th, Friday. 3:30-5:30. Student Services wants to
combine H3 with Thanksgiving giving: donations for those around the area who are low income.
Pass this along to the people. Bring canned foods and drinks and donate.
7:35
Committee Reports
Student Health Advisory Committee (SHAC) – Carli Suba
SHAC will be voting on whether UCSHIP will be meningitis B vaccinations. This might slightly
raise the cost of our health care.
Ryan Brodovsky: Is there a problem with meningitis here?
Carli Suba: No, but since UCSHIP is for all UC campuses that opt in, and this is a problem at
other UCs, it is being considered.
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Long Range Campus Plan (LRCP 3.0) – Vince Moita
There is a resolution coming up tonight. This will get plugged into the master document that will
be sent to design firms for the new building
Scholarship and Admissions – Matt Olhausen
There will be a faculty meeting discussing the admissions and transfer policies. The proposal
will go up in December. There can be a formal document sent to us. There are a lot of numbers
being bounced around regarding class sizes, GPA, LSAT scores, etc. He will talk to Professor
Weithorn about it. These things can affect other educational issues.
Nick Lansdown: We might be able to set up a town hall.
Matt Olhausen: He could just get a report by her with data to present at a meeting.
Educational Effectiveness Committee – Ryan Brodovsky and Sara Tobin
The project for next semester will be on oral skills. Looking for ideas on how to assess oral
skills.
Curriculum Committee – Sammy Chang
They talked about various classes in IT. These will be approved. They are discussing EU
taxation as a car and transaction law seminar.
7:40
E-Board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
Working with Leeja to do a donation drive for H3. It will be competition style. It will be canned
foods and clothing. Trying to bring good will to the people of the Tenderloin. Each org will
pick what charity they want to donate to, and the winning org will get a prize.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
Nothing much. There is a meet and greet tomorrow. It will be good. There will be 6@6s over
winter break.
DIRCA – Sara Tobin
The last BOB will be next week.
DIRCOMM – Sammy Acuna
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No Report
Secretary - Carli Suba
Everyone here has completed their service hours. Thanks to everyone. Everyone’s involvement
is what makes ASUCH successful.
President – Nick Lansdown
Meet and Greet, volunteers can come and mingle in the 2nd hour.
Matt Olhausen – What is the 2nd hour?
Nick Lansdown – It will be mingling with attorneys: drinking wine and having snacks. There
will be beer as well. It will be fun.
Matt Olhausen – Less structured than the 1st hour?
Nick Lansdown– Yes. You can mingle with people that you couldn’t in the first hour.
Treasurer – Vince
Nothing to Report
7:44
Financial Transparency at UC Hastings – Sammy Chang
Looking at the UC (the other 10 universities). They have all employees listed online. He looked
up all the law professors and their salaries. Highest paid are football and basketball coaches.
Sammy has lowered the budget of UCSD by $500,000. He wants to find out what doesn’t match
up with finances. We need to know about our own finances so that we can be responsible to
students who elected us. We need to know where our money is going to. If we don’t know,
there should be a public record of where our money is going.
UC Hastings does not have financial transparency that the UC system has. He contacted the
governor’s office and asked for the last 10 years of expenditures for Hastings. 4 years ago
tuition jumped from about $43,000 from $19,000. Expenditures have increased over the years,
according to the governor’s office. Full time students #s have dropped. Total Revenue has
dropped. We have a weird discrepancy. In 2012 what Hastings reported in tuition did not match
up to our expenditures.
What was tuition used for? That’s what he wants to find out. This is what ASUCH should find
out. Students should know where our money is going.
State funding has dropped because of the recession. Tuition went up as state funding went down.
When it was $10,000,000 in state funding, our tuition was $20,000. We are now back to the
same expenditures. As a public institution, we shouldn’t be happening. It doesn’t make sense
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that tuition went up that dramatically when state funding went back to the same number. Even
accounting for inflation, we still have discrepancies.
First, we need to be fisically accountable. We need to fill the gap to our own fiscal
accountability before we can ask Hastings to do so. ASUCH is missing this, we don’t’ have
update where we are in the resolutions, aside from the minutes. There is no uniform process in
resolution funding. There is no annual expense report. Resolutions are not filed from previous
years. This could be important for ASUCH and we will never know. This should all be online.
How can ASUCH rise above this? He is proposing a resolutions regarding how to fund
resolutions.
Why do this? Every person pays $40 to ASUCH. Our fund gets smaller as less students are
enrolled into the students. The monetary funds of ASUCH has not caught up to these numbers.
We have less money to accommodate the same amount of requests. We need to fix this. We
cannot spend money to accommodate everything and then go into debt.
UCSD’s student government went into debt and they needed to be bailed out by the school.
They then adopted a financial bylaw.
Matt Huzaineh: How long before we get answers?
Sammy Chang: He is going to work on it over winter break.
Laney Wall: Did he get the balance sheets from Hastings?
Sammy Chang: he got it from the governor.
Leeja Patel: Anyone can request money from fiscal and HR because we are a public institution.
Tom Russell: Did he account for scholarships?
Sammy Chang: He looked at the numbers from board meetings and $12,000,000 was allocated
to scholarships.
Mike Khoury: Thanks for doing this.
Sammy Chang: He had questions and he wanted to bring it to ASUCH
Ian Nicholson: What can we do to help?
Sammy Chang: What Vince and the finance committee will do is come up with a finance bylaw.
For feedback, we can e-mail vince.
Vince Moita: This will help with time discussing funding. Then we can work on student
governance without spending a third to half our time dealing with allocating money.
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Matt Olahausen: Is this goal something that should be on the finance committee?
Sammy Chang: Finance committee is a good place to start, but we need to restructure our
structure. We need to fix our structure to advocate for the students.
Sammy Chang: Moves to reorder to move the finance resolution to be heard first.
Vince Moita: Seconded.
NO OBJECTIONS
8:03
Financial Transparency Resolution
Mike Khoury: This is giving the finance committee the authority to come up with a bylaw.
Ryan Brodovsky: By passing this it will change the way we fund resolutions from this meeting
on.
Sammy Chang: The new financial codes won’t come to affect until next semester. But for
today, we will match the budgeting guidelines for these resolutions. As a stop-gap measure, it
would be good for the Treasurer to say what they would have gotten in the budgeting process.
Tom Russell: These are vague terms. What effectively is he trying to accomplish with the
bylaw?
Sammy Chang: The main thing was that we were having various things. Transparency would be
by having a uniform process on how Resolutions are dealt so people will know what our criteria
is. There should be justification on why we give certain money.
Tom Russell: It would be like the initial budgeting process, but for resolutions.
Sammy Chang: It is like budget committee over as a General Council.
Vince Moita: This will give them the authority to write a code, not implement a code. The idea
is to have guidelines. We give money arbitrarily and we want a system to eliminate
discrepancies.
Laney Wall: It will incentivize people to come here with things that should be funded.
Ryan Brodovsky: Still has a problem with the first “So it be resolved” in regard for hosting an
event. It is not reasonable to have 60 + students and many attorneys to only get $100. It seems
that orgs won’t be able to get what they need, which may or may not be justified. He always
found the resolution process allows some change with flexibility based on circumstances that
can’t be known to the finance committee in the beginning. He worries that applying it now
would not be fair to the org that is bringing a resolution tonight when they submitted a resolution
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before this change is supposed to happen. There is $2,317 left in the resolution fund and they are
only asking for about $200. Moves to strike the first “so it be resolved” statement.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
NO OBJECTIONS – Amendment passes, with Ryan’s Strike Out.
Ryan Brodovsky: Move to approve.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
NO OBJECTIONS – RESOLUTION PASSES
8:12
Minutes from October 28 Approval
NO OBJECTIONS – Minutes Passes.
8:13
Resolutions
ACSEL Show me the Money/1L Summer – Author: Matthew Morretti
This was at the beginning of October. There was a panel talking about their 1L jobs. That had
60 people in attendance. Lee Steinberg, the inspiration for Jerry McGuire came and talked about
his experience.
They did not file their budget on time at the beginning of the year. They feel pretty embarrassed
about it, but they did not want that to hold them back from having a presence and events on
campus.
They spent the money on pizza and cups.
Show Me the Money –
Tom Russell: How does this square with traditional budgeting.
Vince Moita: Was this in conjunction with the carreer office?
Matthew Morretti: No.
Vince Moita: This would be a large panel event. This would be $100 through the traditional
budgeting process.
Matt Olhausen: Found the 1L event to be useful.
Nick Lansdown: That’s the next resolution.
Matt Huzaineh: Moved to approve.
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Matt Olahausen: Objection.
Sean Larson: Seconded.
Mike Khoury: There is a difference between what they are asking and what was spent.
Matthew Morretti: They are asking for $148.
Mike Khoury: What are fundraising process?
Matthew Morretti: No fundraising.
Mike Khoury: Who put up the money?
Matthew Morretti: Individual students.
Luis Beltran: Wants to voice objection because they were late to budget process and they did not
fundraise.
Matthew Morretti: They weren’t being disrespectful to the process, but it was an honest mistake.
Laney Wall: Fundraising was not a consideration during the budgeting process.
Sean Larson: Has he been in communication with Vince?
Matthew Morretti: No. He doesn’t believe so.
Matt Olhausen: This was a great event with a great attorney. We want to attract these types of
events.
Sammy Acuna: He is asking for less than $200 and we have funded for more in the past.
Tom Russell: How would this been funded in the budgeting process?
Vince Moita: We would have funded this event but not the other. Is of the opinion that if you
get a famous person to come to campus and it did not cost $500.
Sara Tobin: Echoes what Sammy and Vince. She rarely sees events with 60 or more students.
Considering this is the last meeting, she supports to give what they are asking for.
Matt Olhausen: Friendly Amendment for $148.
Mike Khoury: Call to question to end debate.
Tom Russell: Seconded.
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YAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
ABSTENTION: 0
DEBATE ENDED
Matthew Morretti chooses $148.73.
VOTE:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Matthew Olhausen,
Tomas Ditrych
NAY: Luis Beltran
ABTENTIONS: 0
RESOLUTION PASSES à Resolution fund is at $2,178.
What I did 1L Summer
Tom Russell: Call to Question.
Sammy Acuna: Seconded.
Tom Russell: Objection.
Tom Russell: Concedes.
Luis Beltran: Same as last time.
Jehmima Carril: Call to Question to end debate.
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded.
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
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Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
DEBATE ENDED.
VOTE on Resolution:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin,
Samantha Acuna, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung,
Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: Nicholas Raimondo and Luis Beltran
Abstention: Mike Khoury and Vince Moita
RESOLUTION PASSES – Resolution Fund at $2,109.30.
Minutes Resolution – Carli Suba
Ian Nicholson: Move to Approve.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
No Objections. RESOLUTION PASSES.
Meet and Greet – Author: Matt Huzaineh
A lot of ASUCH worked orientation. Student Services is crediting ASUCH. If we don’t spend
this money by the end of the semester it is gone. Since we have the Meet and Greet tomorrow
and their fundraising efforts were unsuccessful. They want to put that money towards the meet
and greet. They are asking for $300, not $500. There are 30 attorneys that RSVPd and over 90
students attending. Student services donated a case of wine.
Nick Lansdown: The reason it says $500 instead of $300, is because when we were talking
about keg tapping equipment the number 500 was bounced around.
Tom Russell: Friendly amendment to change it to $300.
Matt Huzaineh: They spent over $500. They would like to use the Student Services credit and
have the remaining $200 to come out of the resolution fund.
Mike Khoury: Wants to make clear that the rest will come out of the resolution fund.
Ryan Brodovsky: This event happened last year fully funded independently from ASUCH and
student services. What happened?
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Nick Lansdown: E-mailed firms 6 weeks ago and it was not enough time for them.
Ryan Brodovsky: If this does not go through, then there are $0 for this event? This would be
fully funded by Matt and Nick if they don’t get funded.
Nick Lansdown: Everything is bought and they are waiting for attorneys.
Matt Olhausen: This was funded by law firms last year?
Ryan Brodovsky: Yes.
Sara Tobin: Why wasn’t this budgeted at the beginning of the year?
Nick Lansdown: He thought it would get funded by firms. Apparently 6 weeks was not enough
time for firms to dole out money.
Sara Tobin: Prefers asking all the money through the resolution fund and not through the credit.
She wants the credited fund to be decided by the e-board because credit was allocated by Student
Services with the understanding that it would be used for the greater good of all students. She
wants to use the credited fund to go to providing breakfast to students during finals, so it could
reach a broader range of students. Using it for the meet and greet would only serve a selection of
students.
Matt Huzaineh: This is about fostering good will with Bay Area attorneys. This turns into
potential donation and internships. Last year, a few were garnered from this. An e-mail was sent
out the E-board. But nobody said anything.
Ryan Brodovsky: As the person who brought it up to determine it through the GC. The reason
for this was because the General Council worked for this credit. We are talking about money
that was our labor and it should be up to us to decide how it is allocated. He echoes Sara that the
credited money should serve more students. This should be funded by the resolution
Matt Olhausen: What was the response from law firms for funding in the future?
Nick Lansdwon: It was about timing. He should have asked 2 – 2 ½ months earlier.
Tom Russell: This goes to the end of the semester. We aren’t losing this money out of the
resolution fund. Why leave it sitting on the table?
Leeja Patel: It should have been used as close to orientation as possible. They get audited every
year, this was marked as an orientation expense. It is easier for them if we use it sooner rather
than later. If we want to use it later, we can but it is more difficult. She doesn’t the think the
fund would go away, but Sara’s suggestion is for this semester.
Jehmima Carril: Friendly amendment to take the whole amount from the general fund.
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Laney Wall: Was Student Services led to believe that this money was going to be used for this
event?
Leeja Patel: The E-board can decide how to use this money aside from alcohol.
Vince Moita: What is the difference between using it between the resolution and the credit?
This seems like a tangible thing that we can use it and know where it is going. If we still have
the credit, the GC won’t be able to vote to where it goes in the future. It should go to this?
Tomas Ditrych: Thinks that we should take advantage of this as a networking event. Then we
can save money for the general fund for next semester
Sean Larson: Procedure-wise would it be possible to create an emergency resolution to get
coffee and bagels to serve all the students? If we can take both of these ideas and put them into
action, then we should. There does not have to be a dichotomy.
Matt Olhausen: Are you going to vote on this and bring an emergency resolution for coffee and
bagels?
Matt Huzaineh: We will bring coffee and bagels to the GC.
Sean Larson: This is coming from the resolution fund?
Matt Huzaineh: This will come out of the resolution fund.
Tom Russell: What is the difference?
Ryan Brodovsky: As Sammy’s presentation stated, we want to know where this money is
coming from. By having it come from the credit, we aren’t obligating future ASUCH to do it
again in the future.
Matt Olhousen: Move to vote this down, take Ryan’s Resolution and leave coffee and bagels to
E-board.
Matt Huzaineh: Accepts Jehmima’s friendly amendment. $500 out of Resolution fund
VOTE:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Gabrielle
Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
Abstentions: Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Laney Wall
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RESOLUTION PASSES – Resolution fund is at $1,609
LRCP – Author: Vince
This document is supposed to reflect how students feel about current facilities and how they feel
the future should be for this current building. The PDF has formatting issues. For the present,
high priority: water bottle filling, campus safety, campus computers/computer room.
Nick Lansdown: There was a serendipitous that there was a computer room was asked for
because a student e-mailed requesting that.
Vince Moita: Lower Priority: modernizing current facilities (make this building look nicer); the
Gold Room should be modernized (especially this where we have OCI); moving health services
to the new building or go to the back to preserve confidentiality.
Recommendation for the future: we want to have a community feel – this will be the focus. We
don’t have a campus core right now. We have the opportunity to create a campus feel.
Student study space - there are different preferences for rooms, carrels, and open space. It might
be helpful to have at least one 24 hour study area.
Laney Wall: Sometimes having glass walls might be awkward when you’re studying and people
pass by.
Vince Moita: This could be opaque walls that would let in natural light rather than clear glass.
We should have appropriate number of plugs and comfy seating. We have a new shark tank
idea: host at least 100 students at any given time; should be in a high traffic corridor (to be in the
front) – this will make it more accessible
We would have more indoor outdoor components – Using roof space: this could be a garden or
recreational space. Building is tall so we could see the Civic Center. Could have study space in
there as well.
We could rent out the space to orgs or have a community commons.
Classrooms: Everyone likes J and K. People want natural light. There will be ample space, and
plugs.
Office/Locker Space - Maybe have space to store suits and attire. Maybe have lockers to store
other things, but make them look less like high school lockers.
Student Org Space - Next to the ASUCH office. Wants it to be open like the rec space. They
can store banners. There can be a fridge to store food.
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ASUCH office - It will probably be the same size as ours now. It will be close to the student org
space.
Donor Wall - We have a rich history and we have no sense of that on campus right now. 2
things: creating a wall to recognize donors.
Art - Take down the art that we have, and memorialize our history as one of the oldest law
school and have photos to tell that history.
Sara Tobin: Having the peace sign turned into a print to have that in the new building would be
cool.
Sean Larson: Friendly Amendment – Section 2(a) highest priority: As the sole representative of
Outlaw, they can work on being a welcoming space to transgender and non-conformity
bathrooms. There are only 2 neutral bathrooms in the 198 and none in the 200 building. His
amendment is in e-mail:
“Equallyaccessiblespaceforunisex,single-stall,orothergender-neutralbathrooms
Gender-neutralbathroomscreateprivate,individualspacesthatareaccessibletoallpeople.
Gender-neutralbathroomsaretypicallyasingle-stall,lockablebathroomavailabletopeopleofall
gendersandsexes.Theycanalsobemultiplepersonbathrooms.Gender-neutralbathrooms
provideasafe,privatefacilityfortransgender,genderqueer,andgendernon-conformingpeople,
familieswithchildren,andpeoplewithdisabilitieswhomayneedassistance.Single-stallrestrooms
alsomoreeasilymeettheaccessibilityregulationsoftheAmericanswithDisabilitiesAct(ADA). Peoplehavebegunworkingtowardsgainingequalaccessibilitytobathroomsonmanycollege
campuses.Atsomecollegesstudentsareadvocatingforthecreationofgender-neutralrestroomsin
thebuildingsmostfrequentedbystudents,faculty,andstaff.
Itisalsoimportanttonotethatmanypeoplearequestioningtheirsexualityandgenderidentity
earlierinlifeandcomingoutaslesbian,gay,bisexual,and/ortransgenderatyoungerages.A
Universityshouldrealizethatmanypotentialstudentsandfacultyarelookingforacampuswhichis
proactivelysupportiveofqueerconcerns.Transgenderandalliedpeopleinparticularwanttoknow
howtheirneedswillbemetintermsofcomfortablebathroomoptionsbecauseitisarealconcern
inmanyday-to-daylives.”
Matt Olhausen: Also thinks that it is fantastic. Would like to add that LEOP committee noticed that
student mothers had nowhere to breastfeeding and changing space.
Leeja Patel: There are wellness rooms.
Mike Khoury: What will happen to the LEOP space and Moot Court room?
Vince Moita: They want to preserve confidentiality for LEOP, so it won’t be in the front.
Nick Lansdown: Moot Court will stay because it’s part of 50 Hyde.
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Vince Moita: 50 Hyde won’t be taken down.
Ryan Brodovsky: Thanks Vince and Nick for a great resolution. Call to Question with Friendly
Amendment.
Tom Russell: The light and air should have concrete percentages according to David Seward.
Emphasizes that students want 50% of the window space. Wants more concrete numbers.
Laney Wall: Should we have a plan to reallocate the current Shark Tank space to students so we
don’t lose it.
Nick Lansdown: The Shark Tank won’t be taken away until the new building is built.
Vince Moita: Shark Tank area will be redone. Not sure what will happen. Maybe moving the
business center there.
Ryan Brodovsky: Move to approve friendly amendment.
Jehmima Carril: Seconded.
Vince Moita: Objections.
Ryan Brodovsky: Sean wrote a nice amendment and this will bring Hastings back to the forefront of
innovation. Should add this to the resolution.
Vince Moita: The reason he says no is because when looking at the data, nobody mentioned it in the
survey. But, conceptually agrees with it. In practice, we are working with limited space. We will
either have only gender neutral or single sex bathrooms.
Sean Larson: All bathroom space should be equally accessible to everyone. This expresses priorities
of welcoming all people. It shouldn’t be about just what people put in the survey.
Mike Khoury: Agrees with Sean.
Tomas Ditrych: Would like to see the wording again.
Jehmima Carril: It is super important. We are building something that won’t be changed for a long
time. We need to consider the future.
Carli Suba: It does not have to be one way or the other. We might be able to have both types of
bathrooms. Motion to Extend meeting for 15 minutes
Sara Tobin: Seconded
Gabby Lion: Objects
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AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Matthew Olhausen,
Tomas Ditrych
NAY: Luis Beltran
ABSTENTION: Sammy Acuna
Motion to Extend Meeting Passes.
Sean Larson: A lot of people didn’t fill out the surveys, so surveys aren’t always the best reflection
of how students feel. It may not be representative of future students.
Matt Olhausen: It’s a good thing to consider.
Vince Moita: If this is in the same level of priority, it will dilute the significance of what we are
saying. We should put this in lower priority. So that the things that are most important will be
taken more seriously.
Mike Khoury: Thinks that this a serious matter. This is a building that will be around for years
and years. This is San Francisco. We are at the heart of the LGBT community. This is high
priority.
Ian Nicholson: Appreciates everyone’s point. We will get sued if we don’t have this. From a
lawyer’s perspective, we will be better doing this now than trying to fight a lawsuit.
Leeja Patel: We are bound by ADA and other laws.
Ryan Brodovsy: Motion to end debate.
Tom Russell: Seconded.
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin,
Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom Russell,
Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
Abstention: Vince Moita
DEBATE ENDS.
Vote on Amendment:
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AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
Abstention: Tomas Ditrych
AMENDMENT PASSES.
Vote on the Resolution:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
Abstention: 0
RESOLUTION PASSES.
Seat Gen – Author: Ryan Brodovsky
Amendment: “that appear after selecting a seat” Everyone hates this process. We have to do it
before class. We want to see who is in our class and who we want to sit next to. If we want to
do it before class, it should have photos of students. It is a waste of time. Let’s not waste time.
Laney: Did they talk to Disabilities Resources?
Ryan Brodovsky: He can amend it to keep the first row open.
Sara Tobin: Before Seat Gen, Disability Resources Program would have a seat reserved for
those students who needed them by the first day of classes.
Nick Lansdown: Point of Clarification: Student Services, the Academic Dean and the Dean are
working on this. Faculty likes it.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is just showing that students want to change it.
No Objections, Resolution Passes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Move to table Next 2 Resolutions to hear emergency resolution first.
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Sara Tobin: Seconded.
Vote to hear emergency resolution:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen,
NAY: Tomas Ditrych and Luis Beltran
Abstention: 0
Motion Passes
Emergency Resolution – Dinner ASUCH
Ryan Brodovsky: Sammy spent $409 on dinner for us today. He requested it not come from the
resolution fund. We are here not just to eat, but to help students. Would people want to help pay
for dinner.
Matt Olhausen: Should we do this through Venmo?
Tomas Ditrych: Would he be offended to get that money back? Some cultures would be
offended by getting money given back.
Matt Huzaineh: The important thing is to acknowledge that he did this.
Jehmima Carril: Maybe he wants to give a gift.
Ryan Brodovsky: This isn’t asking for a dollar amount, just consider chipping in money. It
doesn’t contradict his act, and it is also us giving back.
Sara Tobin: He’s a law student. $400 is a lot when you’re not working.
Tomas Ditrych: Maybe getting him a gift.
Ryan Brodovsky: That’s all for this resolution. It is for consideration.
Ian Nicholson: Call to question.
Mike Khoury: Seconded.
No Objections, RESOLUTION PASSES
Amend Bylaws – Author: Ryan
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Regulations state that the IVP needs to put forth election regulations in the 1st meeting. This
happened because of the changes. Future IVPs might not be so lucky. The idea is let the IVP
devote time to Halloween in the Tower and do election changes closer to the elections in March,
in the first semester.
Sara Tobin: Move to Approve.
Carli Seconded: Seconded.
Tom: Objected.
Ian Nicholson: Move to Close Debate.
Mike Khoury: Seconded.
Aye: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
Nay: 0
Abstention: Tom Russell
DEBATE ENDS.
VOTE:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jehmima Carril, Sean Larson, Tom
Russell, Lucas Yeung, Gabrielle Lion, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew
Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
ABSTENTIONS: Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, and Matt Olhausen
RESOLUTION PASSES.
ASUCH Elections – Author: Ryan Brodovsky
One amendment: #3 should read presidential and it should include all E-board candidates.
By choosing to run, you consent to regulations. The debates would be uploaded for greater
student viewership. This would also disallow endorsements from student orgs and ASUCH and
to declare what student orgs they are a part of.
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Matt Huzaineh: Organization should have a “z” in it. What are the repercussions if a candidate
does this?
Ryan Brodovsky: Currently no enforcement provisions. It is a toothless regulation, but at the
same time this will get published, and the goal is that students and orgs will agree to this. If
people break the rules, maybe people won’t vote for this.
Matt Huzaineh: This seems to censor candidates.
Matt Olhausen: Moves to table for next semester.
Ian Nicholson: Seconded.
No Objections. Motion Passes.
9:46
Adjourned
Carli Suba: Move to Adjourn
Sara Tobin: Seconded.
No Objections. Meeting Adjourned.
General Council Meeting
October 28, 2015
7:30
Roll Call
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Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba,
Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano,
Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Gabrielle Lion, Grace
Wright, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych
Absent: Sean Larson, Lucas Yeung
7:32
Public Comment
Ryan Brodovsky: Update on Amanda Hall’s symposium -102 tickets sold; most have come from
facebook. She spent the money on the Recorder’s newsletter and had them put it in their
morning, afternoon, and evening banners. Thanks everyone for how they voted.
Mike Khoury: Wanted to bring up the Tower thefts. The theft needs to stop.
Nick Lansdown: Administration has been working on it. They are thinking about hiring
students to check out packages.
Matt Olhausen: Admissions/Scholarship Faculty Committee are thinking about changing
transfer student policy. They want to move the due date up, then students can apply after one
semester of grades. LEOP program is down. This is a concern.
Mike Khoury: What does it mean that people opted out of LEOP?
Matt Olhausen: The number of applicants were the same, but the amount of attendees are down.
Ryan Porte: Did the 1L class enhanced statistics push the LEOP down?
Matt Olhausen: It was probably independent. The last two years, there are a lot of merit based
awards that are need based.
Nick Lansdown: Law school admissions has dropped in the last 3 years alone, generally. There
is a decrease in JD, LLM and LEOP also.
Jehmima Carril: How many transfers do we have?
Matt Olhausen: 20 last year. They were down from 170 applications to 80 applications. Once
they let students in after the first semester they would have to send in their second semester
grades when they came up.
Keith Yetter: The decrease in LEOP leading to decrease in diversity – has the student body
diversity population actually gone down?
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Matt Olhausen: That was just what the LEOP director said.
Matt Huzaineh: We are at a deficiency of 12 spots total. That is the concern because that is a lot
of money lost in tuition.
Laney Wall: Is the decrease due to other schools?
Matt Olhausen: Not sure. Going to try to find out where they are going , via facebook and other
means.
Nick Lansdown: Commencement date has been set to May 15, 2016. There is one more GC
meeting for this semester. There are 3 groups who have tried to reserve the sky room. This is a
historic problem. Student leaders who have ability who can set dates and times to preempt
confusion in the future. They are going to try to get this under control now.
Leeja Patel: This has been done in the last couple of years because groups try to have cultural
grads and other things, but there are no spots left. If you want those dates, you have to look out
for the calendaring meeting to know how to reserve the skyroom and other spaces.
Nick Lansdown: 3Ls. If you are having family come out, figure it out soon because it is the
same day as Bay to Breakers. Plan ahead! We go through the first H3. We need to set the next
date. Possible dates are 18, 19, 20 of November. Let’s vote.
Tom Russell: Let’s do Thursday to keep in line with BOB
Mike Khoury: Wednesday is the legal notes concert.
Leeja Patel: So Thursday.
Nick Lansdown: What do people want to see at the next one?
Sammy Chang: Maybe Thanksgiving stuff. It is the week before Thanksgiving.
Laney Wall: Terrarium garden.
Matt Huzaineh: Can food drive. Hand turkeys.
Ryan Porte: More faculty participation.
Leeja Patel: That is actually what students can help with by inviting them.
Ryan Brodovsky: Looking at the calendar. That is the same day as the last BOB. We shouldn’t
do that.
Leeja Patel: Maybe the 20th.
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Nick Lansdwon: We will come to a decision about the date. He will send out an e-mail and
have an online poll.
Ryan Porte: Please go to the hunting symposium.
Monica Brock: It’s still not being whiteboarded.
Nick Lasndown: Please help out if you see that it’s not on the board.
7:48
Representative Appointments - Pallavi Vishwanath and Matt Friedman
Pallavi Vishwanath: No Objections.
Matt Friedman: No Objections.
7:50
LRCP 3.0
Update: Drafting the resolution for the MK thinks proposal for the new building. Looking for
people to join the committee to get a final document ready by Nov 12th. E-mail Vince. Vince
has all the data.
7:52
E-board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
Halloween in the Tower: Friday. Special shout out to his committee who have gotten donations
for decorations and candy. There is participation by students and faculty. 63 people are passing
out candy. 25 people are escorting students. KRANDY have been helping to instill community
service vibe. Thanks to everyone who signed up. E-mail the IVP e-mail if you want to
participate.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
6@6 – It’s going.
Meet and Greet- Nov 13. People should go.
Nick Lansdown: They are also reaching out to tech companies.
Matt Huzaineh: Sammie created the Logo
Tom Russell: Dress Code?
Matt Huzaineh: Business casual
Andrew Levad and Kristin Williams: They have an assortment of tech people in a tech panel
coming next semester.
Jon Clark: Everyone last year went in a suit and tie.
Matt Huzaineh: They are telling professionals to come casually.
Nick Lansdown: Always tells people to dress up and then if people feel uncomfortable dressed
up, they can then take off their suit and jacket.
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Leeja Patel: Employers were happy last year. Think of it less as a networking event and more of
a way of meeting a lot of different attorneys.
Andrew Levad: Where is it?
Matt Huzaineh: LBM:
DirCA: Sara Tobin
Barrister’s was on Friday: It was great. Not a whole lot of bad things happened. Made $7,861
in profit. We will put 25% back in the pot now. Vince will tell you more about that amount.
The rest we are putting into the spring semester. Shout out to her committee. Special shoutout
to Luis who worked the door for a long time
BOB: Tomorrow and one more for the rest of the semester
Treasurer – Vince Moita
Resolutions: WE have $3,026. Orgs have not been seeking their reimbursements. We will
probably be seeing more of it go this semester. We have been going under budget with BOB so
we might have extra $ for
Secretary – Carli Suba
Service hours are due by next GC meeting.
Sammie Acuna: She can give service hours for helping to advertise
Nick Lansdown: You can get service hours white boarding, Halloween in the Tower, H3, LRCP
3.0
Sara Tobin: Just talk to an e-board member.
8:06
Minutes from Oct 14
Ryan Brodovsky: Page 4 – Resolution 8:16 it requires ¾ vote…but it actually requires majority
Ryan Brodovksy: Motion to approve
Christian Urbano: Seconded
No Objections – Minutes from October 14th Passes
8:07
Resolutions
LLM Hangout Event – Author: Nick Lansdown
LLMs did not get the same fund that 1L sections got. This is to recognize that LLMs do pay the
student activity fee and resolution, and this is a chance to get them in on the budget.
Jon Clark: Does this include exchange students?
Nick Lansdown: Good point
Tomas Ditrych: Exchange students don’t really have any people in ASUCH
Nick Lansdown: They are only here one semester and they don’t pay tuition.
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Tomas Ditrych: Regarding MSL students, can we change it?
Pallavi Vishwanath: There is only 2 full time.
Leeja Patel: They can attend any of these events
Tomas Ditrych: They will invite the MSL and Exchange students.
Sammy Chang: Moves to approve
Andrew Levad: Seconded
No Objections. Resolution Passes.
HFWLS – Author: Sherry Truong
Co-hosting Ms JD’s speed networking even this year. It was very successful last year. A lot of
the attorneys have become great mentors. This is an important event to have on campus. They
are co-sponsoring to alleviate some of the financial burden on them. They are a new club, so
they are trying to fundraise as much as they can to put on a great event. Due to administration
delays to set up tax deductible donations, some of the donations have died off. They will
probably be more generous in the future. They are asking ASUCH to help them get additional
food and wine. They have already raised a substantial amount.
Sammy Chang: Question to Vince – WHEREAS asked for $0 on their part in this event…what
does this mean?
Vince Moita: Not sure what this means.
Ryan Brodovsky (treasurer of HFWLS): This is a career event capped at $100 plus 25 if you are
able to work with the Career Center. They worked with Ms. JD to get the total # of attendees to
get the maximum group. Worked with AnnaBrooke to get the Career Center in on it. They
could have asked for a split with $450, but that would have put a strain on Ms JD. This is aimed
to show that HFWLS was trying to play ball collaborating with other orgs.
Vince Moita: It sounds like this event is double dipping with funds.
Ryan Brodovsky: They are following the resolution process. Due to administrative issues, they
were not able to get started when they tried way back in August.
Sherry Truong: It took a while, and by that time it was a bit late. There is a sense of urgency to
get this covered in our event.
Vince Moita: Looking to have about 40 people.
Sherry Truong: They are trying to get their membership to go as well.
Ryan Brodovsky: That is without any advertising efforts yet.
Vince Moita: Partnering with the Career Center, they get $25. At the current number of
attendants would be funded the $100. Total would be $125.
Jon Clark: Did Ms. JD already get the money?
Nick Landsdown: Resolution process is different from budget allocation. They are looking for
additional funds.
Matt Huzaineh: Proposes amdendment to omit that provision
Keith Yetter: Seconded
Tom Russell: Objection. Is this to approve the amendment? Objection withdrew
Sammy Chang: Point of Order. Amendment would already be on the table.
Matt Huzaineh: Move to Approve
Christian Urbano: Seconded
Jon Clark: Objected.
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Opened up to Debate
Matt Huzaineh: It’s only $100 to bring in professionals. He feels comfortable
Jon Clark: Just wants to know with co-sponsorship. Did Ms JD get less money? Are we giving
more money because it is a second org.
Vince Moita: We allocated Ms JD $125 for this event. Does the 40 people in addition to what
they proposed?
Sherry Truong: This is the same event.
Sara Tobin: The 40 people are students?
Sherry Truong: Yeah, they are just students.
Sara Tobin: So more people are going to be there.
Ryan Brodovsky: ASUCH wants orgs together to do good events and bring in attorneys. $125 is
not enough to get anything of substance. Resolutions are the backup in funding. There hasn’t
even been a marketing push. Expecting at least 60 people. This will be a great career event that
will be bringing in a lot of attorneys. This will help get people jobs. This is an even to open to
men and women. This is what the resolution process is for.
Matt Huzaineh: 40 people are coming. Ms. JD said 60-70. If 80 people show up would you
come back and ask for more money later.
Sherry Truong: No. We just need the money now. She is willing to pocket the costs, but she
does not want to. This has happened in the past.
Mike Khoury: How does the reimbursement happen?
Vince Moita: They spend the money, get the receipts, and they put in the SIC folder and get
reimbursed
Ryan Porte: Supports what Ryan said; supports what this event is; this is a different event than
the other speed networking thing; the idea of having co-sponsored event is so that groups can
pull their resources; which should include this type of fundraising.
Ronnie Shou: For those worried about attendance, she was an organizer last year and they were
able to get in at least 30 students. This year is getting more street credit. She does think that
there will be more people at the event than those who have RSVPed. They will probably reach a
demographic that they didn’t reach last year because of the collaboration with the Food and
Wine Society.
Jehmima Carril: Fears that people will use this same route. But they are being transparent about
it. We can vote on these things event by event.
Tomas Ditrych: What is budgeting for? Does that mean that people can come later and ask for
more money during the resolution process?
Vince Moita: Yes, resolutions are the backstop. Budgeting is to give out funding in an equal
way. However, this is why we have the resolution process.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to end debate.
Kristin Williams: Seconded.
Jehmima Carril: Object
VOTE to end debate
AYE: : Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Sara Tobin, Samantha
Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew
Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Monica Brock, Ryan Port, Grace Wright,
Alane Wall, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych, Matt Friedman, Pallavi Vishwanath
Nay: Jehmima, Christian Urbano, Tom Russell, Luis Beltran, Sammy Chang, Gabby Lion,
Nicholas Raimondo, Vince Moita, Carli Suba
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MOTION PASSES
VOTE on the Resolution:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin,
Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril,
Christian Urbano, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Gabrielle Lion, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych, Matt Friedman, Pallavi Vishwanath
NAY: Tom, Vince
Abstentions: 0
Resolution passes à Resolution fund @ $2,826
HISA – Author: Phillipe Bau Nader
Did not participate in the traditional budgeting process because they are new students. This org
is to support the LLM students and their needs and concerns with Hastings. They will be
changing bylaws and policies. Asking for $607. They are divided into events. So the budget is
actually not that big considering they did not participate in the budgeting process. They want to
have a bigger presence on campus. They are in negotiations with the LLM Bar Prep program.
They will probably sponsor them next semester.
Christian Urbano: Where are these numbers coming from?
Phillippe Bau Nader: They are asking to help them launch this organization. This is an
exception.
Mike Khoury: How many members does this have?
Phillippe Bau Nader: 28 LLMS and 18 Exchange students. If they get a good start this year,
they want to involve JDs. Mixing with the JDs could be mutually beneficial.
Ryan Porte: As a new student org, can they get an estimate as to how much had they gone
through the traditional budget process?
Vince Moita: $40 for social event and $10 for first meeting à event 1; We would not have
funded the second social event (we only fund one social even per semester) à event 2; Same for
third event à event 3
Phillippe Bau NAder: They are new, so they don’t have funds yet. They want to be more
visible.
Ryan Brodovsky: They also need a banner, which would give them $40.
Tomas Ditrych: This is a very specific situation because LLM students are only here for a year
so there is no overlap between the different boards. It takes them time to get started. We might
want to support them differently from other organizations.
Matt Huzaineh: Clarification for the first event because the numbers aren’t adding up.
Ryan Brodovsky: Echoing what Tomas was saying. This is a great thing for Hastings to be
involved in the international scene. They bring in a lot of different perspectives that we benefit
from as JDs. Based on the way we do our budgeting system, they are incredibly disadvantaged.
But they are working together to work on bylaws and protocols so that this doesn’t happen in the
future. They are incredibly underrepresented. Do you plan on participating on the budgeting
process in the spring.
Phillippe Bau Nader: Yes.
Ryan Brodovsky: We have $2,820 and we only have one meeting left.
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Sara Tobin: Echoes Ryan and Tomas. It literally pays to come and ask for money before the last
meeting
Luis Beltran: Friendly amendment of $250
Laney Wall: The way the budget allocation process works has an element of have we funded
this in the past. The fact that these students come new every year, what is going to stop them
from asking for the same next year. How do we know that the next Budgeting Committee won’t
see this and try to fund them the same way next year.
Ryan Porte: What they would have funded them this year, and funding them at a 2 year level:
$180
Vince Moita: There are 3 social events, plus a banner. There are a lot of orgs that weren’t
funded through the budgeting process. It is hard to say yes now, when he said no previously.
Keith Yetter: How much are they asking for?
Nick Lansdown: $607
Ian Nicholson: Is there any way to put a special consideration note so that in the future they can
see this in the future.
Sammy Chang: Any administration after this are not bound by what we decide
Jon Clark: They don’t have the same funding sources and resources that the JDs have. There
should be a certain allowance. They can work on a way to fix that later.
Carli Suba: Wants to support them. We can show our support for them as a school by helping to
financially support them.
Philippe Bau Nader: This will not be the same next year because they will try to build
networking this year. This will not be a precedent.
Pallavi Vishwanath: Even though there are designated social events, but a lot of students want to
take the BAR and stay here. They want to try to figure out how to get integrated, and this will
help them get established in the community.
Matt Huzaineh: It’s 3 events in less than one month.
Matt Olhausen: How many people will be going to the events?
Phillippe Bau Nader: 25-40 including professions.
Sammy Chang: Making a note on the actual resolution
Leeja Patel: There seems to be an ongoing problem this semester with resolutions. Suggests that
the E-board and looks at the resolution and budget process to change the rules because we are
getting caught up in the merits. We are all talking about very different things. The school
always end up in debt and the school has to bail us out. This has come up in every resolution.
Mike Khoury: 3 events in one month. Friendly amendment to $400
Ryan Brodovsky: Friendly Amendment for $500. That was the exact number we gave to
HELA. It’s not fair to penalize them for the shortcomings of the E-board.
Vince Moita: We get the money from the student activity fee, $40 each semester. That money is
distributed between all the orgs. We can’t give each org $500. This will open the flood gates.
It’s too much.
Laney Wall: As part of the finance committee they were really strict. Orgs that were rejected
were very organized and detailed. There were limits in order to keep themselves in the black.
Agrees with Vince. $180 is a good start.
Mike Khoury: Motion to end debate
Andrew Levad: Seconded
Aye: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba, Vince Moita, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason
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Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Jonathan Clark, Monica Brock, Jehmima
Carril, Christian Urbano, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Gabrielle Lion, Grace Wright, Alane Wall,
Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych, Matt Friedman, Pallavi Vishwanath
Nay: 0
Abstention: Tom Russell
Philippe take Friendly Amendment for $400
VOTE FOR RESOLUTION
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike
Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard,
Jonathan Clark, Jehmima Carril, Grace Wright, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych, Matt
Friedman, Pallavi Vishwanath
NAY: Ronnie Shou, Keith Yetter, Laney Wall, Christian Urbano, Tom Russell, Luis Beltran,
Sammy Chang, Matt Huzaineh, Vince Moita
Abstentions: Monica Brock, Ryan Porte, Gabby Lion
RESOLUTION PASSES à Resolution fund @ $2,426
ASUCH General Council Paper Goods – Author: Sara Tobin
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to call to question
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded
No Objections, ResolUTION PASSES
ASUCH Barrister’s Expenses – Author: Sara Tobin
There was money spent on promotional materials for Barrister’s.
Matt Huzaineh: Move to Call to Question
Sammy Chang: Seconded
No Objections, RESOLUTION PASSES
Emergency Resolution
Sammy Chang: Moves to Hear
Christian Urbano: Seconded
Resolution Will be Heard
Matt Huzaineh: Moved to approve
Sammy Chang: Seconded
Ryan Porte: Objection
Matt Huzaineh: Yields talking
Ryan Porte: Has a problem sending a resolution without an actual solution. Then we are not
doing our job.
Ryan Brodovsky: Maybe to say that ASUCH requests that administration and Tower staff to
implement a different more secure method of receiving packaged mailed to Tower residents,
such as putting in a security camera or hiring a student to sit there to check out packages.
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Ryan Porte: We need due diligence. We need to come up with several potentials and do a costbenefit analysis.
Luis Beltran: Having someone sit there for check out would restrict when students could pick up
packages.
Sara Tobin: Understands where Ryan P is coming from. Still thinks needs to pass a resolution
to send the message that it is on the students minds and is important to students.
Jon Clark: Agrees that getting together is important, but as Sara was saying, this is more about
saying that we are worried about this as students. We want to makes sure that they are aware
how big a problem it is.
Mike Khoury: There is a simple solution. Either having the security or Pansy and have them
monitor the pakcages
Keith Yetter: They used to deliver packages. It eliminated the problem. That is a simple
solution that has been implemented in the past. If we are looking for a tangible solution, then we
can add that. There is someone in the community committing crimes against other members of
the community.
Ronnie Shou: Amendment – this has been going on since the summer. There has been multiple
reports to Pansy and she has always responded saying that it is not her job. Proposes adding a
WHEREAS clause to get a committee to address this. Then students, administrators, and police
to work together to prevent this in the future.
Ryan Brodovsky: Change it so it be resolved that.
Motion: To change to So it be resolved that, ASUCH, staff, and administration set up a
committee to further discuss this.
Ryan Brodovsky: Call to Question
Jon Clark: Seconded
No Objections – RESOLUTION PASSES WITH AMENDMENT.
9: 26
Adjourned
Ryan Brodovsky: Move to adjourn
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded
No Objections Adjourned
General Council Meeting
October 14, 2015
7:30
Roll
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba,
Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano,
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Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Yeung, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Alane
Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych
Absent: Ronnie Shou, Grace Wright, Gabrielle Lion
7:32
Public Comment
Fairuz Abdullah– Events
Friday: How to survive financially as a public service attorney
1:00 Room F
21st 3:30-4:30 PIPS Student Panel
5-6 in Room B, Lawyers for America
Sara Tobin and Ryan Brodovsky – Educational Effectiveness Committee
• 1st meeting with the faculty members last Wednesday
• Voted on what the committee will take on this year
o The focus is: Vote 4-2 they voted for Oral Communication
• Purpose is to pick an academic area and assess learning objectives, see how students are
learning, if student goals are being met
• The faculty that is on it is only on it for a year
• Deadline for WASC accreditation report is coming up
o Evaluates all schools
o 2 areas they were looking into
§ Analyzing if they were achieving goals for research and teaching students
how to research (tied to writing)
• This would have been a longer project to take on
§ Oral skills and communication: How well you can present an argument or
yourself
• Lawyers spend 90% of their time communicating
• There is a writing committee that they are looking into
• Next meeting is next Wednesday
o They will discuss how to implement assessing writing
• Program Learning Objectives
o They will let us know what we are supposed to be learning
Andrew Levad – Day at Law School
• October 24th
• They are bringing in kids from around the Bay Area to learn about law school
• They are putting on sketches à they need volunteers to help out
• Pro Bono hours are for volunteering
Leeja Patel –
• Travel Funding for student leaders and orgs to go to conferences
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o You can find out information on the web page
Working with Youth or Community in the Tenderloin, there are funds for it (federally
mandated)
o E-mail or talk to her afterwards
o patelleeja@uch
H3, Hastings Happy Hour – Thursday 4-6
o Mixer in the Dining Commons
o There will be food and drink
o Pumpkin carving, arts and crafts
o Faculty are participating
Presentation of Robert’s Rules by Sammy Chang
Available by E-mail from Nick Lansdown
7:58
E-board Reports
IVP – Ryan Brodovsky
• Halloween in the Tower
o Less than 3 weeks away
o Over 50 people signed up to volunteer; over 30 passing out candy
o Looks like there will be more kids this year than last year
o There are barrels for candy donations
o This has been happening for at least 21 years, it is a Hastings Tradition
o You can get up to 4 pro bono hours
Amanda Hall: Can people make homemade treats?
Ryan Brodovsky: We would have to look into it because people are weirded out by non-prepackaged foods. He will look into it. We would need approval from the organizations to ensure
that is OK. Individually wrapped candies are more convenient and easy
Leeja Patel: Schools don’t allow unwrapped candies due to allergies. It’s not a Hastings policy,
it is just a school in general policy.
Laney: There are special treats made for those who have dietary restrictions.
EVP – Matt Huzaineh
• There is a 6@6 at a Warriors game with Hanson Brigitte
o This is great for employment law
DIRCA – Sara Tobin
• Barrister’s is a week from Friday
• Sold half of the tickets
• Tomorrow, volunteers will be tabling from 10:30-2:00
o There will be AirHeads
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o This will be promotion to get people to buy tickets
Photographer, Jim Block will be taking photos:
o Photo booth
o Roaming photos
Flyer is going up on the facebook page
o It will also go up on the TV in the 200 building
There was a raffle and a 1L won – Flor from student services pulled it
o There is one more raffle for a pair of tickets
o Money goes to the resolution fund
DIRCOMM – Sammie Acuna
• Renaming ASUCH Weekly to Shark Byte
o We are doing it to differentiate ourselves from the Weekly
• Working with IT to change the name of the e-mail
• Designed the H3 event
Treasurer – Vince Moita
• Resolution fund we have $1,590.75
• Barrister’s Ball #’s will be updated at the next GC meeting
Secretary – Carli Suba
• Service Hours
• Committee Reports will be coming soon
President – Nick Lansdown
• 1L reps get $100 for each section to do what they want
Sara Tobin: Last year the 1L reps combined funds and threw a party in the sky room and it was
fun. You can pool your funds together.
Nick Lansdown: If you need help reserve a room, we are here to help
Leeja Patel: If you do combine, it is highly likely get additional funding
Ryan Brodovsky: You can spend the money on alcohol.
Tomas Dytrich: Does LLM students have funds?
Nick Lansdown: He will put in a resolution for it this year.
Sara Tobin: Maybe it can go in the budget for next semester.
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David Seward will host the ASUCH General Council at Soluna for happy hour and mix it
with UCSF grad student delegation who are here to tour our campus
Vince Moita: The goal is redevelop the 198 building into student housing that we will share with
UCSF students
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GC meeting on Veteran’s Day is cancelled
o November 18th might have to be a makeup meeting
H3 – Whiteboarding
o People need to know about this event so that it will be highly attended
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8:16
Resolutions
Bylaw Amendments – Author: Nicholas Lansdown
Nick Lansdown: Before these amendments there were no options for automatic removal. WE
had to post to the student body to report automatic removal. If these don’t pass today, then we
will keep the other bylaws
Ryan Brodovsky: Is this retroactive?
Nick Lansdown: It is not retroactive. It is for the future
Tom Russell: Administrative removal is by GC?
Nick Lansdown: It is by the e-board.
Ryan Brodovsky: Read it as the e-board votes to reinstate the representative.
Nick Lansdown: It requires a majority vote of the executive board
Ryan Brovsky: Motion to call.
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded
VOTE: No objections. Resolution passes
8:20
Emergency Resolutions
Nick: These need to be voted on to be heard.
Bylaw Amendments
Ryan Brodovsky : Motion
Matt Huzaineh: Objection
Nick Lansdown: This is to hear this resolution
Matt Huzaineh: Withdraws objection
Vote: Passes
Author: Carli Suba
Ryan Brodovsky: The bylaws currently put the Secretary in a difficult position. We have 48
hours to turn in a resolution. At the exact same time the Secretary must submit to GC and
student body those resolutions. These aren’t possible. Last minute resolutions happen often. It
is impossible to get the resolutions and turn them over at the same time. We discussed this over
the summer. The idea was that Shark Byte comes out 48 hours before the meeting. We need to
give time for Secretary to compile the resolution in order to submit the collected resolutions.
Matt Huzaineh: Right now there is 48 hours before the meeting right now as the deadline. The
wording is 2 days right now to get out the Resolutions.
Ryan Brodovsky: That is up to interpretation and that is still unreasonable as events are going to
start coming up and people are going to start asking for more money. At the last meeting last
year, there were 12 resolutions in addition to 4 emergency resolutions. We want to be open and
accountable and we want to be clear. Changing it now will make it less ambiguous.
Kristin Williams: The purpose of ASUCH is to provide funding to student orgs, if we want to do
this to help secretary and the orgs, we should shorten the deadline for the secretary to send out
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the resolutions. We don’t want this to be an impediment to have access to those funds. The
number of people who read the Shark Byte are not many. The people who are interested will see
it the day before.
Carli Suba: Since we are using the Shark Byte to send out the resolutions on Monday, it is
difficult to have the resolution deadline the same day. Also, if the orgs miss the Sunday
deadline, they can still bring up their resolutions as emergency resolutions, which the General
Council usually hears. The burden is not that much for organizations.
Sara Tobin: As an e-board we did decide that we were going to send out ASUCH information
through the Shark Byte. I don’t know if we should send out the Shark byte on a different day.
That opens up another discussion
Jehmima Carrill: Unless something is super time sensitive they can bring it up at the next
meeting
Ryan Porte: Is 72 hours enough time?
Carli Suba: I thought that it was going to be 72 hours since the start of the semester so I have
planned my schedule in anticipation of that. 72 hours should be fine.
Tom Russell: The issue, the 48 hours is not enough based on when the Shark Byte goes out?
Ryan Brodovsky: No, the 48 hours requires that people submit the resolution 48 hours before
and it also requires that the population to receive the resolutions at the same time. We have
made it so that it goes out in the Shark Byte, but that aside, it is about the reasonableness of time
Sammy Chang: Moved to vote.
Monica Brock: Seconded
Nick Lansdown: Motion on the table. Are there objections.
Matt Huzaineh: Object
Sammy Chang: We should defer to the secretary because the secretary understands the job and
would understand how future secretaries would need it. This is reasonable. Future
administrations can change it. We shouldn’t argue about technical things. We should give it a
chance and if it doesn’t work out, we can change it.
Matt Huzaineh: Wants to hear from President
Nick Lansdown: Remembers talking about it, but doesn’t remember what we came to. He is
depending on the knowledge of the General Council. He understands the Secretary’s need to get
this in, but he couldn’t imagine that the current way would give the Secretary a lot of time. The
student body’s perspective is that they want funds dispersed so that their needs are met. Having
it earlier may restrict the orgs needs. He is on the fence. Deferring to the General Council
Jon Clark: Doesn’t understand how this impedes the orgs. It’s not like they don’t know they
need money.
Nick Lansdown: Orgs know that they need to go through the resolution process, but we are all
law students with things going on. It’s a procrastination thing going on. Understands that he
doesn’t see the need.
Sara Tobin: Regarding procrastination, we shouldn’t be sympathetic. Doesn’t expect people to
be sympathetic to her when she procrastination. Student orgs are informed about funding at the
Student Leadership Conference. There is the emergency resolution process.
Monica Brock: Agrees with Sara. If is an emergency, that is what the emergency resolution
process is for.
Kristin Williams: As a rep last year, people would come in asking for money because they can’t
bear the burden right away. There shouldn’t be procrastination punishment. We shouldn’t make
the bylaws to accommodate people in this room, it should be for the general student body.
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Ryan Brodovsky: 2 points- 1) We are looking at this in a narrow point of view, but a resolution
can be brought prior to an event, it can be brought multiple times. There is no rules about how
many times a resolution can be brought or when. Agrees that we shouldn’t punish, we should be
supportive. We also need to be reasonable to each other. We need to provide a working
framework for everyone to get their jobs done.
Vince Moita: The resolution process is not the only mechanism for funding. There was a chance
with the budget request process. The resolution was for when we don’t have enough funds to
fund everyone’s request or if their events don’t meet the requirements of the budget allocation
process. We are still for helping students when they don’t get enough funds. Doesn’t see this as
unfair.
Nick Lansdown: Any other people who want to sepak?
Sammie Acuna: The only concern that she has is an abuse of resolutions for the irresponsible
orgs, but doesn’t see it as a big problem. Is there a limit to emergency resolutions?
Nick Lansdown: No.
Sammie Acuna: Is suppose if an org turns in an emergency resolution they wouldn’t want to do
it again
Tom Russell: Why have it at 72 hours instead of noon on Monday? Then it gives orgs time and
gives Secretary time.
Sara Tobin: Doesn’t like it to be vague because it means arbitrary enforcement.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is a primary amendment.
Nick Lansdown: No he makes the amendment and it needs to be seconded
Tom Russell: I amend to change to 2 days before at noon, and the 2 days before to 11:59
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded
Ryan Brodovsky: The amendment is at 11:59 for Secretary to publish and 2 days before at noon
for resolutions to be submitted to Secretary.
Nick Lansdown: Tom can explain
Tom Russell: It gives a 12 hour gap for Secretary and give orgs.
Matt Huzaineh: People in student body don’t want to get together on Saturday and Sunday and
they can come out in the morning on the Monday. Orgs might feel like they might not be heard
as an emergency resolution. It won’t look good
Vince Moita: Motion to cap
Kristin Williams: Seconded
Nick Lansdown: Motion on the table
VOTE:
Nay: Jon
Jon Clark: What does Carli think about it?
Carli Suba: I like it the way I originally wrote it.
Keith Yetter: Thinks the 72 hours was fine. These were events planned ahead of time or they
are being reimbursed after the fact. We are all adults here. Do it on a Friday and get it done. 72
hours and 48 hours are fine. It is important that the information gets out on the Shark Byte so
that all the information is going out in one spot so that people are not inundated with e-mails.
Opposes Tom’s amendment.
Nick Lansdown: Vote on the Amendment. Noon on Monday and 11:59
VOTE:
YAY: Andrew Levad, Kristin Williams, Tom Russell, Matt Huzaineh
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NAY: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha
Acuna, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian
Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Alane Wall, Nicholas
Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Thomas Ditrych
ABSTENTIONS: Mike Khoury, Chris Ballard, Matt Olhausen, Lucas Yeung
Amendment does not pass
Nick Lansdown: Vote on the resolution itself – 72 hours to turn in resolutions (the original
resolution)
VOTE:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha
Acuna, Mike Khoury, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Chris Ballard, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Samuel Chang, Ryan Port, Alane Wall,
Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych
NAY: Andrew Levad, Kristin Williams, Matt Huzaineh
Abstentions: Lucas Yeung, Tom Russell, Sean Larson
RESOLUTION PASSES
HELA (North by Northwest Journal) – Amanda Hall
Amanda Hall: She is one of the people who turn in resolutions late, and it is not because she is
procrastinating but because she is busy. She is going to have a committee. She needs money
and needs the resolution heard before ASUCH. She was here in September asking for budget to
be heard, and they received $90.
Nick Lansdown: Forgot the GC to vote to hear the resolution.
Sammy Chang: Motion to hear
Ryan Brodovsky: Seconded
No objections, Resolution will be heard.
Amanda Hall: She is doing everything as the entire e-board. She really believes in
environmental law. There is a symposium, there are a lot of great speakers coming. This will be
about gaming. For someone who is not a hunter, getting access to these people was very
difficult. She wants to make sure the event is a success. She wants $750. It is open to all the
law schools. There will be a debate. There will be 5 different panels. There will also be an
alum there. There are groups in Texas that imports animals from Africa and hunt them. Money
will go to food and making this a success.
Mike Khoury: What has she done to fundraise?
Amanda Hall: North by Northwest has not been keeping track of prior board members. An
email went out. SF Zoo is the biggest donor. Other donors have donated about $100. She can’t
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find donors. She will reach out to our Boards of Trustees, Governors, and Directors. ALDF will
donate $1,500 spent on food to be reimbursed.
Vince Moita: This event was originally denied funding because they weren’t sure what was
going to happen.
Amanda Hall: there are new members on HELA.
Vince Moita: How are you going to get new members?
Amanda Hall: It could be commercialized on the radio.
Vince Moita: This money is supposed to go to Hastings students. Concern is that this money
will not be spent on Hastings student
Amanda Hall: Most people she’s talked to has responded on the positive.
Keith Yetter: She has $2,800 already. Spending money on the Ritz-Carlton and worried about
having money going to lavish rooms for speakers when journals generally don’t pay for
speakers.
Amanda Hall: It is expensive because it is happening during a holiday.
Laney Wall: Where was she told that she had to pay for the hotels.
Amanda Hall: Tom McCarthy.
Vince Moita: That is not correct. We don’t pay for housing or travel funds. Journals and
ASUCH funding is different. Journals charge student fees and get funding from the school so it
may work differently.
Mike Khoury: Not sure if this is a journal or an ASUCH issue. We need to pay for
transportation in order to get speakers. To put Hastings back on the map we need to put on these
type of events.
Marianne Lewis: It’s been 15 minutes. Someone move to motion to extend.
Sean Larson: Extends the meeting.
Ryan Brodovsky: Amanda has been working a lot on this. We need to support her on this time.
We spent almost an hour
Matt Huzaineh: What about proposing a friendly Amendment for $500.
Ryan Porte: Seconded.
Jon Clark: She can say no to $500 and go for $750.
Sean Larson: Matt did exactly what I was going to do.
Jon Clark: Is she getting money from Journals?
Amanda Hall: They paid for airfare.
Vince Moita: Where is the $750 going to specifically? Whenever we request, we want to know
where it’s going to so as not to have marginal waste.
Amanda Hall: Can she spend it on advertising?
Vince Moita: It can be spent on advertising.
Amanda Hall: If she can spend it on that that is what she would spend it on. Otherwise it would
go to food.
Chris Ballard: Says thanks for speaking with conviction because it is not easy to do. Supports
the original.
Laney Wall: Allocation system in place right now doesn’t allow for growth and change because
the rules are based on the past. If everyone is in favor of this, then it is a good use of the funds.
This resolution would be a good way to move something in a new direction.
Sara Tobin: Would there be other things outside from advertising?
Amanda Hall: Advertisement would be $1,500-2,000. Cheapest is on the radio through a nonprofit in Sacramento. San Francisco NPR is very expensive.
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Sara Tobin: Would you be using the money for things other than advertising.
Amanda Hall: I would like to use it on advertising and if not, then other things.
Jon Clark: There are 23 registered? How realistic is it that others will attend?
Amanda Hall: It depends on the students. This is something that society wants to know about.
Vince Moita: Doesn’t think that there should be money spent outside of SF because the impact
for Hastings students would be minimal. It should be spent in SF
Amanda Hall: She wants to ensure that the audience is also diverse and she is not sure how to
get those outliers.
Vince Moita: Doesn’t think that the advertisement would target people to come.
Amanda: It will be recorded. It will only be wide view. It will also be streamed.
Tom: What time is it?
Amanda Hall: 8:30. Registration would be 7:30.
Monica Brock: This sounds like a wonderful event. As a student she hasn’t heard of this before
now. Thinks people would be interested if it is advertisements.
Matt Huzaineh: 2 weeks is concerning. Can you postponed it?
Amanda Hall: No.
Ryan Porte: It was in the Weekly at the bottom.
Luis Beltran: Concerned about the registered students and the proportion of money being spent
on it. Objects to this.
Ryan Brodovsky: Amanda was looking for funding for any means possible. And he asked her
why she hasn’t targeted the local community and she said she has.
Amanda Hall: From the hunters’ side.
Ryan Brodovsky: We need to be reasonable to what tools are available to host this event. What
she is asking for is reasonable. There are a lot of concerns on the quality of the event for the
students and the community, and he believes that this will be important. He will go even though
the has to do Halloween in the Tower. We should help distribute the information. We need to
help her.
Matt Olhausen: Echoes the concern that Luis has. It seems a long way to go in a short amount
of time given where she is at in the process. It is hard to allocate half our resolution budget on
this event.
Mike Khoury: Motion to end debate
Sean Larson: Second.
Nick: Motion on table
Objections – None. Motion to end the debate passes.
Jon: motion to extend meeting by 10 minutes
Sara: Seconded.
Motion to Extend discussion passes.
Ryan Brodovsky: Now that the debate is ended, Amanda can choose which she wants.
Amanda Hall: Chooses $500.
Ryan Brodovsjy: Motion to call to question
Sammy Chang: Seconded
VOTE:
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Aye: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin
Williams, Ian Nicholson, Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica
Brock, Jehmima Carril, Lucas Yeung, Ryan Port, Alane Wall, Nicholas Raimondo, Matthew
Olhausen, Thomas Ditrych
Nay: Keith, Jason, Jon, luis, Matt H, Tom, Tomas, Sammy, Vince,
Abstentions: Carli Suba
RESOLUTION PASSES
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to Extend Meeting
Sean Larson: Seconded
Nick Lansdown: On the table
No objections. Meeting is Extended.
9:31
GC Minutes from September 30th
Ryan Brodovsky: Correcting LRCP 3.0 conversation, Mike Stonebreaker was credited to Mike
Khoury. Later in the minutes, in the IVP report, October is misspelled.
Matt Huzaineh: Move to approve
Kristin Williams: Seconded
Nick Lansdown: ON the table
No Objections: Minutes approved
9:33
Ajourned
Sammy Chang: Moved to adjourn
Everyone: Seconded
Nick Lansdown: On the table
No objections. Meeting Adjourned
General Council Meeting
September 30, 2015
7:30
Roll Call
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara
Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Monica
Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane
Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen
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Absent: Tomas Ditrych
7:31
Ryan Brodovsky: Moving Public Comment until after Seward’s presentation.
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded.
No Objection, Motion passes
7:32
LRCP 3.0 with David Seward and Mike Stonebreaker
Long Range Campus Plan:
Planning process that identifies 198 Building as having issues including but not limited to:
elevators, climate control, and electricity. Hastings went to Sacramento to get funding to fix
these issues.
Choices were to upgrade 198 Building or build a new building. With the upgrade, the issue
would be where to have classes. 198 is two different structures and it holds most of our classes.
Funds were secured to build a new building. Hastings’ Advocacy Committee helped with this.
Governor supported this appropriation. Hastings was the only higher level education to get this
type of appropriation.
100 McAllister is old and needs upgrades. They hope that they will be done with 333 Golden
Gate by 2018. Vince Moita and Nick have been helping with the planning.
The plan is to integrate the new building with 200 McAllister. Try to create a new campus core
to include student-centric spaces. Example: Rooftop space that goes from the 333 building to
the 300 building.
198 would become new student housing. This would be partnered with UCSF. The plan is to
attend the Hastings’ need. Do students prefer studios?
Ryan Brodovsky: The efficiencies are hard when cooking because the sheets smell (especially
when cooking fish) in those spaces. Concerned about kitchen space near the room.
Keith Yetter: Echoes Ryan. The general studios are probably what students prefer.
Laney Wall: In the military is having a common area and then have a person’s bedroom and
bathroom be separate off of the common kitchen between two tenants.
Sean Larson: Nobody’s really complained about living in 2-3 bedroom places in San Francisco
in general.
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Sammy Al-Shanti (non-ASUCH elected member): there are expectations of adults having their
own space. In Berkley it was similar to that which Laney suggested.
David Seward: The new thing is the 333 academic building. October 14th the architects will
present their ideas and concepts. The student housing is longer because we can’t do anything to
198 until 333 is complete.
Matt Olhausen: How did the Tower come to be? Who owns it?
David Seward: Deed belongs to Hastings. We took over the Tower as part of the war effort.
There was a deal brokered with President Carter to have the school to buy it. Legend says we
bought it for $1 but it was worth millions on the deed.
Ryan Porte: What is the size comparison between 333 and 198?
David Seward: Keep in mind that our enrollment has gone down. The space is 25% less than
198. 198 is inefficient because there is a lot of wasted space. The new building will be
connected to the garage and the 200 without having to go to street level. They will use 200 to
supplement. Safety and security is currently housed in the basement, which does not give a
visual presence. When there is a housing structure, there is idea of making a tunnel to connect it
to the other buildings.
Jon Clark: What happens to the garage? Still rental?
David Seward: Yes. The garage is totally debt funded. It is a revenue generator. Before it was
a garage, the spot was unpleasant. They will avoid void street space to make it safer for students.
Upsides on collaborating with UCSF:
Student delegation 4:30 October 15 with UCSF at Soluna. There used to be students housed at
Mission Bay, but then they ran out of space for us. It was a good relationship based on the grad
school demographics.
Nick Lansdown: Grad Students?
David Seward: Yes.
Ryan Brodovsky: The construction will take a long time, 4 finals periods, what is the plan to not
have the same issues during the sidewalk project of last year? What is the plan to reduce noise
heavy construction during finals?
David Seward: The plan will not affect this building. It is two blocks from the Tower. There
probably won’t be pile driving or jackhammering. He can’s say for sure if there won’t be heavy
work during the final period
Ryan Brodovsky: The problem is the library where students will be studying.
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David Seward: Regardless of when the construction happens, people will be studying when it
goes on. They tend to go from 7-3 or 7-4. There will be aggravation, but there won’t be
demolition.
Ryan Brodovsky: Would you say that this one of the considerations as people go with this plan?
Especially for studying and studying for the bar.
Mike Stonebreaker: Yes, it will be considered. There will be disruption that can’t be avoided,
but it will mitigated.
Jehmima Carril: The Tower has a waitlist. What is the benefit of sharing with UCSF.
David Seward: We take care of Hastings first. And then give excess to UCSF students. The
waiting list is about 50 students right now. To make this worthwhile for UCSF, we will have
600-800 units to increase housing. Our financial statements aren’t as deep as the UC system.
They are much more modest, so we are constrained. By partnering with UCSF, it helps with the
risk.
Jehmima Carril: Will UCSF students want to come to our location?
David Seward: Mission Bay is sterile. UCSF students are all over the place and we are in the
epicenter of those locations. We sit on a transportation line. This might look better than living
in Mission Bay. UCSF are grappling with the same issues as Hastings students in terms of
affordability and transport.
Laney Wall: What is UCSF asking for in return? Are they asking for special consideration?
David Seward: We are saying that if we partner, they bring capital and they will jointly deliver a
project with limited risk. We are giving real estate. We will charge the same rent regardless of
where the student goes to school.
Monica Brock: If we are losing a floor in the library and the gold room, and we are bringing
students here to live, where are we going to have study space?
David Seward: We used to have 1240 students and now we’re down 25%. We are not losing
study space on the 6th floor of the library. 200 McAllister is kind of dead. We have space and
capacity. We would get recreational and study space in the 333 building. We would integrate all
of that in the design program.
Matt Olhausen: What are the zoning regulations are?
David Seward: We are an instrumentality of the state of California and have constitutional status
by being a UC. We have no height limit. We are still constrained by political reality. We are
looking to 14 stories for the housing building. The more housing you build, the cheaper it is, we
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are looking at half the height of the tower. The new academic building is looking at 80 feet
(much like 200 building).
Sammy Al-Shanti: Are there are other plans as ancillary revenue generator.
David Seward: He would like to do that in the ground floor of the housing facility. But that is
speculative. It would not be easy in the academic building because it is funded by tax-exempt
debt – there is a limit to revenue making space. It would depend if someone could come up with
something that would fund the academic program.
Tom Russell: The 6th floor of the library. What is happening with it? The gold room is packed.
David Seward: The gold room has different students. The 6th floor – we will relocate 3 out of 4
of the centers to be work life law, innovation law, and UCSF consortium. They will go into the
north-east quadrant of the floor. They won’t take away from the study space. The long term
plan will be that there will be connections between the two buildings. The research centers will
be in that northeast quadrant.
Tom Russell: More windows would be nice.
David Seward: They hear students concerns on that. They have been going to other law schools
to see what the best of space looks like. We need to supplement with private donations to give
the building “punch.” They want to maximize light and have natural air. We need to raise
money.
Ryan Brodovsky: As representatives of the larger student body, what is the best way to
communicate what students want to the LRCP 3.0 committee?
David Seward: 2 ways: e-mails sent to Mike Stonebreaker and talk to David when you come
across him.
Mike Stonebreaker: Recommends finding out what the core needs are. Pass a resolution and
send it so that it is in writing and clear and articulate and shrunk down to the essence. Have
something that represents the student body and our voice of what is really important.
David Seward: Predecessors have articulated a lack of a “heart of campus.” Now is the time to
think about what students would really like to see. We need to be loud about who gets access to
public light because there will be competition over it. We are trying for as green a building as
possible. Twitter is coming out to do a green team garden improvements and basketball clinic.
Tenderloin museum will be discussed later
8:08
Public Comment
Tom Russell: Received a complaint on the lack of transparency on scholarships. He looked on
the website and it is blank. It is something to think about.
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Mike Khoury: Wanted to thank 3L class reps on the reception with the Board of Governors and
alum. This was the first time we had this event. Recommends doing it again next year. For the
next 3L president, they should get a hold of the career office.
Vince Moita: All the stuff that David was talking about – that’s why the survey was given out.
It is to get students opinions. The master architect will take those opinions to design the
building. There will be 3 potential buildings and choose from there. Please fill out the survey.
Sammy Chang: On the curriculum committee. Transaction law course as a 2 credit course.
Faculty is debating over whether this should be offered. What is our opinion?
Keith Yetter: I’m also on the committee and the problem is that there was historically this
course by Rappaport and full subscription was about 25 students. They stopped teaching it
because there wasn’t much of an interest. There might be a new teacher coming to teach it.
Sean Larson: The rule in the bylaws about 2 absences in a row. There was confusion about what
that meant or how rigid it was. He thinks that there should be attention to it and perhaps amend
the bylaws.
Nick Lansdown: We are currently amending the bylaws. There was no process to adjust the
bylaws. There is now an amendment that has a due process clause to address those needs. This
will be amended and voted on by the general council at the next meeting.
Matt Olhausen: Process for drafting a resolution for 333 Golden Gate.
Nick Lansdown: Anyone can draft a resolution and General Council can vote on it. When
resolutions come before the General Council, we can provide friendly amendments, but it is up
to the drafter to accept those amendments. Then it gets voted on.
Matt Olhausen: Will someone draft a resolution?
Vince Moita: Yes, we can. That is where it really useful to program the surveys so we can draft
a resolution.
Nick Lansdown: AS for our resolution about public safety, ti has been forwarded to the Dean
and Board of directors.
Ian Nicholson : A lot of people are complaining about the internet and nobody is responding.
Sara: We can draft a resolution.
Ryan Brodovsky: The internet in the Tower was having issues. E-mailed help desk and they
replaced the router. Now it works better, but still not great. Main suggestion is to e-mail help
desk.
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8:18
Introduction of new Parliamentarian – Marianne Lewis
8:17
E-board Reports
Secretary:
Representatives need to fulfill 15-hour service requirement.
IVP:
If you need services hours. After this meeting, there will be a Halloween in the Tower meeting
right after. On October 30, Halloween in the Tower will happen. We will need people to give
out candy. This serves kids of the tenderloin. This is a tradition that has been going on for at
least 10 years. 2-3 setting up. 3-5 for giving out candy. 5-6 clean up.
EVP:
Nothing to report. There are a lot of 6@6’s. So sign up.
Jehmima Carril: As a student she appreciated the 6@6 e-mails last year. She fears that the small
amount that they are allotted in the ASUCH Weekly is enough because people might not be
reading it. They are important for students and the new change is lacking in reaching students.
Nick Lansdown: They are trying to get more readership for the ASCUH Weekly, but Matt does
have the authority to e-mail.
Ryan Porte: There are only 12% of students signed up for 6@6 events. Tell people to fill out the
form.
DIRCA:
Almost ready to sell Barrister’s tickets. IT is finalizing the website as we are selling tickets
online. As soon as its up we will sell tickets. We will try to sell raffle tickets by reps.
Talking to the person who works with the Twitter Green Team and Twitter for good. On October
16 in the morning, they are looking for students to volunteer to garden. If anyone is interested,
e-mail Sara. We can advertise this in the Weekly.
Mike Khoury: When do we get more information about venue and prices on Barristers?
Sara Tobin: Venue is Venue 550. Tickets will be $30 and the last week of sales will be $35.
Jon Clark: where is the gardening?
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Sara Tobin: She does not know where, yet.
Nick Lansdown: It is probably where 333 will be. Casey is part of the development process.
Ronnie Shou: FYI – Last year there was open bar, but it is important to note that there
historically wasn’t an open bar. This will alleviate some of the grumblings of not having an open
bar.
Tom Russell: No open bar at Barristers?
Nick Lansdown: No.
Mike Khoury: We had issues with this place before.
Sara Tobin: We are aware of this.
DIRCOMM:
Re-naming the ASUCH Weekly. She will send out an official e-mail to let students know.
TREASURER:
Budgets are looking good. There is another person who submitted their budget late. They will
submit a resolution. There is plenty of money for resolutions and there should be more after
Barrsiters
If your org is hosting a BOB, the limit is $250 total for all orgs hosting collectively.
Nick Lansdown: If you are sponsored by a private company, make sure you relate to people how
much they are helping to sponsor, because they might not sponsor the whole thing. BAR
companies are not authorized to sponsor because you cannot sign up for their company at BOB.
They cannot promote that they are sponsoring the whole BOB when they are not.
Ryan Brodovsky: We are saying that it is OK to seek outside funding because of the limited
funds from ASUCH so long as the sponsorship is clear?
Nick Lansdown: Correct. If it changes, he will let us know.
Matt Olhausen: Can multiple orgs have sponsorship?
Nick Lansdown: That may be able to happen so long as they aren’t making people sign up.
Matt Olhausen: They can indirectly sponsor a whole BOB.
Nick Lansdown: Technically yes, but then they would have to buy everything, including the
beer and wine.
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Vince Moita: It costs about $1,400 to fund a BOB.
Nick Lansdown: AS it stands now, it can’t happen because of the way the contracts with the bar
companies are.
Laney Wall: Can this be sent out in an e-mail to the student orgs?
Nick Lansdown: Yes, but orgs have access to the minutes. But yes, we can e-mail them to let
them.
Jon Clark: I would rather not assume that everyone is reading the minutes.
Nick Landsown: We are also assuming that people read their e-mails, so assumptions have to be
made somewhere.
Vince Moita: We have e-mailed orgs about the split.
PRESIDENT:
Still needs one person who is inclined to do student health advisory committee.
Sammie Chang: I can do it because they have already talked to me.
Nick: This is about insurance premiums for UC Ship. Provide feedback about medical services
and how it could be better and whether it is going to a good use in terms of funding. Only meets
about 5 times a year. It is all about the care provided under UC Ship. This is a great opportunity
if you are interested in health law.
8:37
Minutes
Jehmima Carril: Misquoted. Said that it the lockers were “convenient” not “inconvenient.”
Please read the minutes.
Carli Suba: Accepts Friendly Amendment.
Vince: Seconded
No Objections, Minutes Pass
Nick Lansdown: We are now trying to go by Robert’s Rules. Now when someone motions for
something, and it gets seconded, he will see if someone opposes. If somebody does, then it will
go to debate. When that closes, then it will go to the actual vote. If nobody opposes, then it is
unanimous consent.
Sara Tobin: How do you abstain?
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Nick Lansdown: If nobody opposes, then there is no abstention.
8:41
Resolution
Author of resolution not here – Resolution not heard
8:41
Sammy Chang: Move to adjourn
Jehmima Carril: Seconded
No Objections, Adjourned.
GENERAL COUNCIL MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 16, 2015
7:31
Roll Call
Present: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba,
Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams* (left early), Ian Nicholson, Jason
Morales, Andrew Levad* (left early), Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte,
Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
Absent: Keith Yetter, Gabrielle Parris, Monica Brock, Matthew Olhausen, Shibani Tanjea,
Kristin Williams (for leaving early), Andrew Levad (for leaving early)
7:22
Tom Russell: ASUCH Weekly – get rid of it
Carli Suba: Not everything is on the Weekly
Matt Huzaineh: Admin is making us doing it because we don’t have access to all the population
through e-mail
Kristin Williams: Can we just add it to the Weekly
Vince Moita: In the past we had the power to e-mail the whole population, but now we don’t
and our only recourse is to have the ASUCH weekly to collaborate all e-mails that we would
have sent individually, but it is the current solution.
Mike Khoury: Who reads the actual weekly? More than expected
Nick Lansdown: The ASUCH Weekly is our tool to communicate with the whole student
population. Now everyone gets the information that hasn’t gotten out before, including Board
reports and ASUCH minutes.
Ryan Porte: Rebranding? Calling it ASUCH newsletter?
Nick Lansdown: OK.
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Ronnie Shou: She appreciates the minutes and agenda sending out. Could there be less overlap
between ASUCH overlap and normal Weekly. Otherwise great because it goes to more
transparency.
Nick Lansdown: He hears it. We will restrict what we give to the CEC.
Kristin Williams: For the people on ASUCH last year, in order to make the ASUCH minutes last
year it was one-sided. It might be better to have the minutes be less transparent.
Tom Russell: Put the minutes up.
Nick Lansdown: They are on the webpage.
Carli Suba: The minutes from last meeting will be voted on today for approval and then
published
Ryan Brodovsky: The ASUCH weekly is still beneficial because the normal weekly comes off
as authoritative. It is a peer-to-peer forum. It sounds like it is not coming off that way.
Nick Lansdown: Any other comments?
Vince Moita: Long range campus plan. Master architect who will do a design competition on
how to design the building. The information we are gathering will go to the architects. He wants
feedback on how students use the shark tank, the law café and the student lockers. Start with the
shark tank
Ian Nicholson: Shark tank is awesome. It is GOSH’s home base. He was on the committee to
help design it. He thinks we need a student lounge because not a lot of people hang out there.
Laney Wall: She would hang out if there was alcohol available.
Nick Lansdown: He has asked that question to admin, but we should have an answer soon.
Sammy Chang: With the Shark Tank, it might be more important to have it in the forefront. It is
less accessible than the law café. We should make it more of a place to mingle.
Vince Moita: In the new building they could incorporate that.
Andy/Kristin: They appreciate the shark tank, they were looking for open space for
meetings/meet and greet. The sky room is hard to book. The tower lounge is always occupied.
The ARC is hard to book. There are few spaces for the student orgs outside off campus. Shark
tank is the only place on campus for that, such as meet and greet. Long story short – shark tank
Nick Lansdown: He would like to add that the ASUCH board is working with student services
to do faculty socials in the shark tank. Dates are to be decided. Student services have the funds.
This will be to promote interaction between students and faculty.
Amanda Hall: She is interested in turning it into a student org room. She would also like to see
a game room.
Jehmima Carrill: There needs to be a room that isn’t the Tower lounge. The student orgs and
students need it.
Tom Russell: GOSH needs it. Everyone here is busy, so we can’t take a lounge space that may
not be used by everyone at the same time.
Vince Moita: Locker space?
Ian Nicholson: Tower people don’t use it. Reallocate it to off-campus.
Amanda Hall: In the basement is inconvenient. Should be on the floor with campus.
Jehmima Carrill: As a commuter finds it convenient.
Vince Moita: They are thinking about splitting the lockers between 5 floors for more
accessibility. The beach?
Ryan Brodovsky: As someone who lives in the tower, when we have a lot of books, lockers are
Sammy Chang: Vote to extend for 10 min
Jason Morales: Seconded
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VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin,
Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson, Andrew Levad, Sean
Larson, Jonathan Clark, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Grace Wright, Alane
Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: Jason, Ronnie, Chris, Ryan, Ryan, Matt
• ABSTENTIONS: Jehmima, Christian
Vince Moita: He can send out a link to everyone in here to respond to these questions. He will
send the email within the next couple days.
Nick Lansdown: Public comment is concluded because Vince will e-mail.
Carli: There will be a Sexual Assault/Safety Forum co-hosted by ASUCH, admin and Ms.JD
from 3:30-4:30 in the ARC. We are encouraging students to go. It will be a discussion, so
students are encouraged to ask questions. Dean Hillman will moderate. Those involved include:
Hastings’ General Counsel, Security, David Seward, and Student Health Services.
Nick Lansdown: If you have questions, send it to student services or Carli or use note cards.
7:56
Committee Report
Nick Lansdown: Ad Hoc Committees. Standing committees have been filled. Ad hoc
committees still need to be filled, including educational effectiveness, JD flex, student writing.
He will be submitting to Student Services. Every student rep has voting power.
Ryan Brodovsky: Halloween in the Tower in full force. Gracie made a facebook group. There
is an online sign up sheet. They are working to get over 100 kids. Date is Oct 30, not yet
determined. 3:00-5:00. Set up is 2-3, clean up is 5-6.
Matt Huzaineh: 6@6 is rolling. There are 4 already planned. First is David Lineman, lives and
works in Thailand. Best way to get this out is word of mouth.
Sara Tobin: Next BOB is tomorrow. Tomorrow, she is formally signing the contract with the
venue for Barristers.
Sammie Acuna: Mixed reviews of the ASUCH weekly. She is going to do a survey for
feedback.
Carli Suba: Turn in Service Hours so that you can get credit for your ASUCH work.
8:03
Minutes from last meeting
VOTE
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew LevadRonnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan
Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran,
Tomas Ditrych
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•
8:04
NAY: 0
ABSTENTIONS: 0
Budget Allocation
Carli Suba: Motion to Table
Jehmima Carril: Seconded
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Ronnie
Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril,
Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall,
Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: Kristin Williams and Andrew Levad
• ABSTENTIONS: 0
9:05
Resolutions
SECURITY RESOLUTION
Author: Ryan Brodovsky
This was talked about in the E-board meeting and is supported by the E-board. This is to support
our public security and not replace them with UCSF security guards. This issue been going on
since 2011. This is partially a cost measure. They maybe adopting the UC brand to be our
security. We live in a dangerous neighborhood to have just security guards. UCSF and Hastings
have been collaborating for some time. They are trying to replace our security to have security
officers who are not really cops who then have to call cops when there are emergencies. We
already have a system in place. Hastings is not the same as UCSF because we are not in under
the regents.
This may be largely symbolic. We don’t know how much our vote matters, but it is important to
show support to our officers. Hastings is currently in negotiations with a separate branch and
then UCPD would be called when there is an emergency. It would be similar to what we have in
the Tower who would call the UCPD in emergency.
Ronnie Shou: Motion to amend. Whereas clause: Student safety is a primary concern for
potential and current students. Removing the legitimate police force would hinder recruitment
and retention efforts.
Lucas Yung: Friendly Amendment changing “legitimate” to “dedicated”
Sammy Chang: Friendly Amendment: Can send the language out
Nick Lansdown: They are not in current negotiations, but they are doing research. Shouldn’t
take less than 6 months.
Ryan Brodovsky: Accepts Ronnie’s friendly amendment.
Jehmima: Seconded.
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
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Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang,
Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Tomas
Ditrych
• NAY: 0
• ABSTENTIONS: Luis
RESOLUTIONS PASSES
HASTINGS DEMOCRATS
Author: Jenna
Hastings Democrats’ budget request form was turned in late because they want to do more
outreach.
Vince Moita: Putting the budget together this weekend. Since we are working on transparency,
and it was late, they decided that they should go through the resolution process. Their budget
has already been incorporated into the budget. This is to put them on notice to get it in on time.
He sponsors this. Voting on allocated funds that they would give them in the budget allocated.
Nick Lansdown: Some orgs submitted late. This is a formality to put them on notice to show
that finance committee takes this seriously. This is the resolution that came as an outcome to the
situation.
Tomas Ditrych: Are you going to discuss the allocation in detail?
Vince Moita: We are going to look at the budget in general. This is to allow them to get on the
budget itself. To allow them to get what they would have gotten if the budget is passed.
Ryan Porte: Were there any other political parties represented?
Vince Moita: No.
Tomas Ditrych: Is this normal?
Vince Moita: Yes this has been allocated in the pass.
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to call to question.
Matt Huzaineh: Second.
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin WilliamsIan Nicholson,
Andrew LevadRonnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian
Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Grace Wright, Alane Wall,
Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran,
• NAY: Jason Morales
• ABSTENTIONS: Tomas Ditrych, Nick Raimondo, Ryan Porte, Sammy Chang
RESOLUTION PASSES
HILA
Author: Amanda Hall
HILA also turned in their budget late. HILA is having a difficult time getting off the ground.
There are only 3 board members left. They beg forgiveness.
Nick Lansdown: Point of clarification: this is also a budget request.
Chris Ballard: There is no allocation for them on the budget. Why?
Vince Moita: It is on the resolutions.
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Amanda Hall: The event they want funded is about trophy hunting. They are also looking at
beach clean ups and visiting environmentally friendly corporations, such as TESLA. Last year
all of the board was 2Ls and 3LS, they now have 1L reps so they should have strong presence
this year.
Nick Lansdown: To clarify, they are likely not to have been allocated all the funds requested.
Matt Huzaineh: Call to Question.
Christian Urbano: Seconded
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Grace Wright,
Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: 0
• ABSTENTIONS: Nicholas Raimondo, Ryan P, Sammy C.
RESOLUTION PASSES
8:29
Emergency Resolution
GAAP:
Christian Urbano: Motion to hear
Tom Russell: Seconded
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin WilliamsIan Nicholson,
Andrew Levad, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima
Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane
Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: 0
• ABSTENTIONS: Ronnie, Jason
MOTION TO HEAR RESOLUTION PASSES
Author: Dustin Hovda
Dustin accidentally put the budget on his own chatter feed on Kscope. He later found out that he
didn’t submit it. It was on time, but didn’t go to anyone else
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to Vote
Jehmima Carrill: Seconded
VOTE:
AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang,
Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
NAY: 0
ABSTENTION: Nicholas Raimondo
RESOLUTION PASSES.
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HSIR
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to Hear Resolution
Sara Tobin: Seconded
VOTE:
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin WilliamsIan Nicholson, Jason
Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark,
Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan
Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran,
Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: 0
• ABSTENTIONS: 0
MOTION TO HEAR RESOLUTION PASSES
Ryan Brodovsky: Motion to Vote
Matt Huzaineh: Seconded
• AYE: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Sean Larson, Jonathan
Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang,
Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis
Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
• NAY: 0
• ABSTENTIONS: Nicholas Raimondo, Sammy Chang
RESOLUTION PASSES
8:33
Budget Allocation
Vince Moita: The finance committee met over the weekend and spent 11 hours looking over all
the orgs budget request. They looked at all the groups. Started out with $54,000 for the year.
They knew they were going to spend more in the spring. They allocated $27,000 for next
semester. They took out $2000 for resolutions. They were able to allocate according to budget
outlines. They made it clear during student leader conference. ASUCH took the largest, but
they are for BOBS, Barrister’s Ball and food here. We are making money from Barrister which
will be good for student orgs. Most of the money went to ethnic orgs, ie: LaRaza, BALS, and
HJLSA. Next went professional orgs. They took the late orgs and put them in the resolution
fund. They still came out above budget. They only came out to $21,300. This is good because
there are funds for resolution. They were able to get more people more of what they requested
last year. Some people requested a lot and didn’t follow the guidelines, so those things did not
get funded per the budget guidelines.
Tom Russell: Native American and Food and Wine.
Vince Moita: When you host a BOB, you get $250.
Sara Tobin: The $250 is for BOB.
Sammy Chang: One org takes all the money and distributes it between all fo them
Mike Khoury: So, they orgs should know that $250 is for one BOB.
Vince Moita: This is allocated between the orgs themselves for efficiency
Chris Ballard: Who is on the finance Committee?
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Vince Moita: Christian Urbano, Laney Wall, Gabby Lion, Sammy Chang
Chris Ballard: This is tough and appreciates how hard they work. He saw 5 orgs that were under
funded: APALSA, BALS, CALA, HJLSA, and HCLS. Some of these didn’t follow the rules?
Wants to see the details of what they were asking.
Vince Moita: This is included in the breakdown
Chris Ballard: There aren’t enough specifics.
Vince Moita: Those are what the committee based their budget of at.
Chris Ballard: What are you looking at? How can I access it?
Vince Moita: This will be posted on Kscope. This is a tentative distribution. This is what we
are voting on right now. We can send it to everyone.
Matt Huzaineh: Keep in mind, there is a resolution process.
Sara Tobin: There is more money than expected in the resolution fund. The earlier that orgs
request money, the more likely they are to get it through the resolution process.
Vince Moita: Why groups didn’t get what they wanted. Example: HJLSA, it wasn’t clear what
kind of event it was. They aren’t going to give $500-600 dollars for a questionable attendance.
They don’t fund moot court competitions through the budget guidelines. The only thing flexible
was social events, but they tried to keep the same standard across the board. This why it is all
through Kscope, it will be transparent.
Chris Ballard: Can you reach out to some of these groups that are underfunded and let them
know that there is the resolution process.
Vince Moita: This information was available at the fall leadership conference. There was
information on the resolution process at the fall leadership conference.
Nick Lansdown: This can be done on the ASUCH Weekly.
Ryan Brodovsky: This is specifically about HJLSA. Not funding off-campus events. Would it
be appropriate for HJLSA to do a resolution now that their event has moved to the LMB.
Vince Moita: You can bring it whenever, but he prefers after to see the actual numbers.
Nick Lansdown: Resolutions can be brought more than once. If you get shot down or don’t get
the money you want, you can bring it up again.
Tom Russell: PAD there is no precedent?
Vince Moita: One of the orgs, PAD is a legal fraternity. They were on campus a few years ago,
but it was for the student body as a whole. Now, they are asking ASUCH to fund group
exclusive events. They are asking for $900 to only the benefit of the members as well as
charging fees. This is up for debate. Budget Committee did have them seek through resolution.
Carli Suba: This is inappropriate.
Tomas Ditrych: Hastings Democrats shouldn’t be financed by university money if there is only
one political association. Universities shouldn’t be political.
Laney Wall: As a member of the finance committee, they had conversations about it. It might
not be the best way to allocate money. All of these issues point to this. This might be something
to address later with allocating money.
Nick Lansdown: Any group that doesn’t ostracize other students can seek funds through
ASUCH. The reason we don’t have a republican org would be because nobody has started it up
or is a part of it.
Vince Moita: The only reason the democrats are getting more scrutiny was because they were
late turning in their budget. But there is precedent giving them money. It is easy to line pick
why some orgs got money and why didn’t. It’s about who followed the guidelines and who
asked for funds allocotable.
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Matt Huzaineh: Motion to call to question
Luis Beltran: Seconded
VOTE:
Aye: Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita, Carli
Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams, Ian Nicholson,
Andrew Levad, Ronnie Shou, Sean Larson, Jonathan Clark, Christian Urbano, Jehmima
Carril, Tom Russell, Lucas Young, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane
Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimondo, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych
Nays: Jason Morales and Chris Ballard
Abstentions: 0
BUDGET PASSES.
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ADJOURNED
GENERAL COUNCIL MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 2, 2015
7:30
Opening/Welcome
7:31
Roll/Introductions
7:40
Public Comment
Introduction of Student Services (Leeja and Rupa)
• Using them as resources
• Soliciting opinions and advice to help students
• Starting to do meetings with the Reps (focus groups)
• Survey by Mike Stonebreaker
o Input about the new building
o Take the survey and get your voice heard.
o The New building is a long-term building
§ It has been funded by the state (probably will be the last academic
building they will fund)
o They are discussing the design of the building right now
§ Input is important because now they are doing the design
o Vince Moita is the student rep on the group designing
• Dropping by Student Services
o They will start office hours
o They will also speak to students by appointment
Sean Larson: The online petition from last night
• Wants to make sure that this is on everyone’s radar
• It is regarding student satisfaction
o There is a general dissatisfaction with technological issues, transparency issues
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Nick Lansdown:
o Met with the author who explained his issues
§ He wanted to put ASUCH and Administration on notice
o In the future, he can bring issues to ASUCH to get the issues heard by
Administration
o Nick has already submitted questions like that to student services and they are
addressing them by looking for the answers
o Encouraging students to contact Nick about future concerns as they will be heard
o Nick submits quarterly issues to the Board of Directors
o Students will get answers to their Question
Leeja Patel:
o ASUCH is the voice of the students à they have a lot of power
o Student Services discussed the petition
§ There were a lot of facts that were wrong
§ There were a lot of issues that were legitimate
o In the future, get assistance to get the facts right and figure out what the laws are
so that we can properly fight against them
o There were answers at Student Services to everything that was listed in the
petition
Nick Lansdown:
o At the request of the author, further discussion will be on hold for the future
Sean Larson:
o It would be help to diffuse the issue by posting the answers and make it public
o Not bringing it up again will put a bad taste in people’s mouths
o People really do care about these issues
Leeja Patel:
o Board of Directors agendas are public online on the Hastings website
o When they meet and what the discuss
o Some of the meetings are public
o In regard to budget and finance committees
§ There is a Hastings finance committee
• They just met 2 weeks ago
Nick Lansdown:
o He takes questions seriously
o His schedule is pretty free
E-board introductions
IVP: Ryan Brodovsky
• Duties:
o Elections Committee
o Heads an IVP committee
§ Halloween in the tower is their main event
• Giving children of the Tenderloin an experience of Trick-orTreating in a safe place (the Tower)
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• End of October
Committee will help plan it
• ASUCH Service Hours will be given for working on this
o Legacy Committee
§ Retaining Information from orgs so that those that cannot continue due to
lack of membership do not have to restart from scratch
§ Example: HJLSA
• Had to draft new bylaws and start from scratch
§ Goal of committee is to make it easier to restart organizations
• Service Hours will be given to creating binders to retain
information
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EVP: Matthew Huzaineh
• Professional Development Committee
o Getting students prepared for interviews and callbacks
o Speakers and alums are always on campus and they could be future employers
o 6@6 program/Committee
§ 6 people with an alum, usually at 6 pm
§ They go out for coffee, games (Warriors), wine tasting
§ Internships have come out of this program
§ Some alums are interviewers at OCI
§ Committee sets up these events
• Last year there was rep from each section
§ Nick: I was one of those people who went into an interview with a 6@6
alum
§ Sammie: I got an internship from 6@6
Treasurer: Vince Moita
• Finance Committee
o Looking for people who want to distribute the budget amongst Hastings’ student
organizations
o Allocating $57,000 between all of the student orgs
o Commitment is one day in a semester that could be 8-15 hours long
§ This will probably satisfy all of the service hours commitments
o Looking for people with business backgrounds
o 2 of each grade of reps
DIRCA: Sara Tobin
• Director of Community of Affairs
• Head of Student Life Committee
o Social Events:
§ BOB (Beer on the Beach)
• Once every other week
o Kegs on the beach (6 tomorrow)
• There are also non-alcoholic drinks
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• Serving wine at BOB will get you service hours
Barristers Ball (fall)
• Needs help
• Will get ASUCH hours
§ Spring Fling (spring)
o Community Events
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DIRCOM: Sammie
• Responsible for ASUCH’s logo (in the ASUCH Weekly)
• Liaison between ASUCH and student body
o Working on transparency through open and direct communication
o Communicating what’s happening internally at Hastings
• Helped create the ASUCH weekly
• Looking for tech savy
Secretary: Carlia Suba
• Responsible for ASUCH meeting agendas, resolutions, minutes, attendance and service
hours
• Responsible for the ASUCH office
o ASUCH office is available to all elected members
• Head of the Council of Committees
o Each committee will have a representative to report to the Secretary so that the
information can be distributed to students
Nick Lansdown: ASUCH Goals
• E-board worked on things such as the 1L orientation
• Our goal is to work on more community based events
• Faculty led committees
o Faculty will tell Nick how many reps they want
o There is a requirement of at least 1 ASUCH representative
o Goal is to open some of those spots to the general population to spread the
knowledge
§ Historically it has been confined to ASUCH, but opening this to the
general student population may be a better way of spreading knowledge
o These are available each semester:
§ Academic Standards Committee
• Ryan Brodovsky did this last year
• Deciding on grading distribution
• Worked with professors and Dean Field
• Ryan Brodovsky: It was a great opportunity to see how the school
approaches academics. There was discussion of increasing the
amount of lower grades to show more accuracy on students’
performance. However, grades are a lot of our experience and so
he drafted a survey to convince the faculty not to change the
distributions. They convinced the committee to add 2 more units
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just as a student.
§ Admissions policy and scholarship Committee
• Getting more students enrolled at Hastings à wanting to boost
rankings
• Grades are not all that they look at when selecting students for
admission
• Professor Lois Weithorn is on this committee
§ Curriculum Committee
• Controls how UC Hastings teaches courses
• There is a lot of interest in this committees
Ad Hoc Committees
o Trying to get people who are qualified in certain areas to be part of these
committees
o Educational Effectiveness Committee
§ They prefer someone with a teaching background
• Example: tutoring
§ Someone who can help to get a curriculum that would more effective
o Flex time JD Program
§ These do not affect our rank, but they boost finance for Hastings
§ People donate money directly to certain organizations
§ This committee will look to get more funds that for general issues
§ Determines whether it is feasible to keep the Flex time program
§ It is a 4 year night course program
o Tech Oriented Development Program
§ This is a committee that is focused on are good courses in order to get a
tech world job
§ This would be a good committee for those who are interested in or have a
background in Tech
o All ad hoc committees have been published
o Laney Wall: What are the commitment times?
§ Nick Lansdown: Maybe meeting once a month, maybe twice a semester
§ Ryan Brodovsky: He was on two committees and it was intense, but the
actual time consuming, but it was an opportunity to take a more active
role. It is possible to do this as a 1L.
o Student Writing Committee
§ Evaluates opportunities for student writing throughout the curriculum
§ Keith Yetter: Will this serve any academic purpose?
§ Nick Lansdown: It might serve an academic purpose. If that occurs and
anyone is interested, he can get the information out.There is no professor
leading it
§ Sammy Chang: How to apply?
§ Nick Lansdown: Anyone who shows interest will get a definite answer by
the weekend.
§ Shibani Taneja: If there are concerns that don’t necessarily concern the
rest of the school, do we create a separate committee for that?
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Nick Lansdown: Yes, he can direct students to the right faculty member.
We will try to facilitate communications
All the committees allow students voting power
o You should say what you think because it matters
2L/3L Reps Nominations
2L Rep:
• Lucas Yeung:
o Section 2 last year
o Wants to help in any way
o He will be effective because he makes decisions and sticks with them, listens to
peers, and sound judgment
o Interesting Fact:
§ Fingers on left are crooked from playing violin
• VOTE
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani
Taneja
o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: 0
3L Reps:
• Ronnie Shou:
o 3L
o Involved with student orgs, moot court board, Internal VP on Ms JD (first full
year as an org), volunteers with students services
o Face paints
o VOTE:
§ Yay:
• Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince
Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury,
Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock,
Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace
Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja
§ Nay: 0
§ Abstentions: 0
• Chris Ballard:
o 3L
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Undergrad: Political science and business
Community organizer
City planner
President of BLSA last year
VOTE:
§ Yay:
• Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince
Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury,
Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock,
Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace
Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja
§ Nay: 0
§ Abstentions: 0
Parliamentarian and Historian
Parliamentarian (makes sure we are following the rules):
• Jacob Erez
o Won student of the year
o President of HJLSA
o Has good judgment, appropriate for this role. Happy to call us out on our
mistake.
o VOTE:
§ Yay:
• Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince
Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury,
Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock,
Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace
Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja,
Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
§ Nay: 0
§ Abstentions: 0
Historian:
• Jacklyn Fang
o Official Student photographer for Hastings ever since 1L
o VOTE:
§ Yay:
• Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince
Moita, Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury,
Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales,
Andrew Levad, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock,
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Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace
Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo, Luis
Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja,
Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
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Nay: 0
Abstentions: 0
Resolutions
HJLSA: Culture Night
• Asking for $ 217.50
• Presented by Arnie Sanchez(Treasurer of HJLSA)
o Last year at the last ASUCH meeting, tried to submit a resolution for funds from
food for Culture Night
o They did not receive funding because ASUCH ran out of funds
o Re-submitting resolution for reimbursement now
o They did not get funds through the budget process because the were new and they
had to go through resolutions last year
• Ryan Brodovsky:
o Clarification – Treasurer at the end of last meeting told orgs that were not able to
get funded to come to this meeting to go through resolution at this meeting. The
bylaws are going to be changed to not allow this in the future.
o Friendly Amendment:
§ Capped at $125 last year, should be the same now
• Vince Moita:
o Last year all the orgs only got $125 unless they asked for less, then they got what
they asked for
• Arnie Sanchez:
o This was the only thing that HJLSA asked ASUCH to help fund
o They put on a lot of other events last year in which they were fully funded by
fundraising
• Vince Moita:
o When students requested budget events, one of the biggest events is a symposium
event, which means that they get less than for a social event
o The last Treasurer gave a $125 cap
o Some of the other regulations limit the budget
o We need to preserve the budget for this year
• Motion to Table this and move on:
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja, Ronnie Shou,
Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
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o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: Matt Olhausen
Budget Regulations:
• Presented by Vince Moita
• Lays out the guidelines on how to do the budget
• All that will be changed is the name of the Treasurer and the Due date to noon on Friday
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani
Taneja, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: 0
• It is easier for the orgs to have the same framework so they know what to expect
• Vote for Resolution:
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani
Taneja, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: 0
• RESOLUTION PASSES
HJLSA’s resolution picking up the resolution from earlier:
• VOTE:
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani
Taneja, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: 0
• Arnie Sanchez accepts the Friendly Amendment
• Sammy Chang:
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Nick Lansdown:
o Anyone can bring a resolution to be voted on
o The new bylaws will mitigate this
Vote to Close Debate:
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, Samuel
Chang, Ryan Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas
Raimundo, Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani
Taneja, Ronnie Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nay: 0
o Abstentions: 0
Friendly Amendment Vote
o Yays:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Carli Suba,
Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Kristin Williams, Keith Yetter, Ian
Nicholson, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson, Christian Urbano, Monica Brock,
Jehmima Carril, Tom Russell, , Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion,
Nicholas Raimundo, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja, Ronnie Shou, Chris
Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nays:
§ Sammy Chang, Ryan Poste, Jason Morales
o Abstentions:
§ Mike Khoury, Matt Olhausen, Luis Beltran, and Vince Moita
o RESOULTION PASSES for $125
Bylaws Resolution:
• Presented by Nick Lansdwon
• Bylaws are living document that the E-Board has made changes to in order to fix past
problems
• Sammy Chang:
o 3.10 – Why not combine (a) and (b)?
o Is there a rules committee?
• Ryan Brodovsky:
o It is built in that removal requires a vote so that removing someone at the whims
of any one person would be extremely impossible.
o It might be a good idea to have a rules committee, but rejecting these bylaws will
put us back to the old bylaws
• Keith Yetter:
o Parliamentarian didn’t get to this before, but the Parliamentarian can head a
bylaws committee
• Nick Lansdown:
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Vote to Pass:
o Yay:
§ Nicholas Lansdown, Ryan Brodovsky, Matthew Huzaineh, Vince Moita,
Carli Suba, Sara Tobin, Samantha Acuna, Mike Khoury, Kristin Williams,
Keith Yetter, Ian Nicholson, Jason Morales, Andrew Levad, Sean Larson,
Christian Urbano, Monica Brock, Jehmima Carril, Samuel Chang, Ryan
Porte, Grace Wright, Alane Wall, Gabrielle Lion, Nicholas Raimundo,
Luis Beltran, Matthew Olhausen, Tomas Ditrych, Shibani Taneja, Ronnie
Shou, Chris Ballard, Lucas Yeung
o Nay: 0
o Abstention: Tom Russell
ASUCH Responsibilities
Nick Lansdown:
o Responsibilities are to make sure that the student voice is heard and relay it up to
the appropriate channels.
§ Relay the answer back to the person who had the concern and back to the
student body
• This helps with transparency
o Goals that he has:
§ Define student life on campus
§ There was movie night tonight that nobody attended
• We will keep hosting them until people do attend
§ We want people to understand that there are events on campus for the
purpose of building community
Comments and Questions
Sara Tobin:
o ASUCH should be fun
o It is what we make it. ASUCH meetings are open to everyone, so orgs can come
in and see what happens. We can all be friends while we work.
Nick Lansdown:
o Dean says that if over 100 students come to the next town hall meeting by giving
another keg on BOB
§ This also gets the information out
Ryan Brodovsky:
o Onus is on us. We can get a keg…there was no dollar amount given to that, so
there is a lot of freedom with that
Nick Lansdown:
o ASUCH is open and available to students
o Use the Shark Tank so that they don’t take it away from students
§ It is a student lounge in the 200 building, it has a ping pong table, video
games, board games, and the list goes on
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Ryan Porte:
o Can we play beer pong?
Ian Nicholson:
o Use the one in the Tower because it destroys the tables
Nick Lansdown:
o The more we use the Shark Tank, the less chance they will take it away from us to
use for other things, such as faculty use.
Vince Moita:
o Use the survey to say that student space is wanted and needed.
o This will affect future students.
Nick Lansdown:
o 333 Golden Gate is being built on an appropriation from the governor
o Hastings is a separate line item from all the other UC Campuses
Vince Moita:
o Got $36.8 million for the building
Nick Lansdown:
o This is an allocation solely for the new buildings. No other UC got this, so we are
lucky.
Tom Russell:
o What is the time line on the 6th floor going and can we prevent it?
Nick Lansdown:
o They are not doing anything this academic year, but everything in the 6th floor has
been removed to use them for clinics.
o To prevent it, he can raise the concern. This was raised by his predecessor and
nothing was done. He can raise the concern with the meeting for the Board of
Governors tomorrow.
Sammie Chang:
o Where do students find the memos?
Nick Lansdown:
o They are public, but he can send them out.
Sammie Acuna:
o Update the ASUCH outline bank
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