STATE OF COLORADO COUNTY OF ROUTT OFFICE OF THE CLERK September 21, 2004 Chairman Pro Tem Daniel R. Ellison called the Routt County Board of County Commissioners public meeting meeting to order. Commissioner Douglas B. Monger; County Manager Tom Sullivan; Paul Draper, Lou Gabos, and Heather McLaughlin, Road and Bridge Department; Toya Rhoden, Susan Dreska, Patrick Arnone, Roger Watson, Lyman Orton, Tommy Schwall, Julie Green, John Armiger, Jim Linville, Stuart Handloff, Bob Weiss, Ron Murray, John Cowell, Callie West, Sharon and John Beaupré, Gordon Jones, Carol Comeau, Barbara Robison, Carol Atha, Susan Dressen, Dave Moss, Luster ‘Vic’ Vickrey, Angelo and Corinne Cicci, Cathy and Ben Gero, Dave Carley, Barkley Robinson, Kent Kirkpatrick, Jeffrey Campbell, Steve B. Dressen, Jeff Fry, Vince Arroyo, Joe Schuman, Gordon Schuck, Patrick West, Mark Bollenbacher, David B. Pepin, Peter Boniface, Dave Fisher, Foxer Tudor, Mark Bennett, George Thomas, Kevin Hendrickson, Tom Steitz, Craig Olsheim, Michelle Dover, Debbie and Doug Cortinovis, Bill Meyers, Steve Colby, Denis Campanali, Maryann Wall, Robert Ames, Dan Chovan, Steve Marshall, Joey Rind, John Morone, Nina Darlington, Richard and June Florence, Steve Keliton, Scott Geisler, Gil Barbier, Randy Booco, citizens; Polly Cogswell, Joan Donham, Robin Craigen, Scott Schlapkohl, Holly Williams, Russ Atha, David Williams, Karen Schulman, Don Eden, and Fred Garrison, Routt County Riders; Steve Flechenstein, Nobel SYSCO; Brock Webster, Orange Peel Bicycle Service, LLC; Daniel Hagney, Moots; Tom Ross, Steamboat Today; and Tony Connell, Connell Resources, Inc. were present. Commissioner Nancy J. Stahoviak was present via conference call. Diana Bolton recorded the meeting and prepared the minutes. EN RE: ROAD STANDARDS AND ROUTT COUNTY’S CHIP-SEAL PROGRAM Commissioner Ellison stated that the Board appreciated all of the information submitted to the Board by organizations and individuals and noted that no decisions would be made by the Board this evening. Mr. Draper reviewed a Power Point presentation regarding chip-sealing that addressed the process, the advantages and disadvantages, the life cycle, the different sizes of aggregates used and their characteristics, the cost analysis for different sizes, the slurry-seal and other alternative surface treatments, and longevity projections in relation to the treatment used. He said that chip-sealing sealed the surface of asphalt. Asphalt was applied followed by gravel in various sizes, after which the surface was swept, and after the chip-seal had cured, a coat of fog seal was applied to take the edge off the chip-seal and provide solar gain, which helped the melting process in winter. As asphalt aged, it oxidized and became brittle so the chip-seal process was used to avoid cracking. He said that 1986 was the last time that 3/8” chip-seal was applied, and that maintaining pavement at the highest level for the money was the goal so as to avoid reconstruction and frequent overlays, because good roads cost less. Page 04-534 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Mr. Draper noted that much of the information presented this evening was based on data received from the Colorado Association of Road Supervisors and Engineers (CARSE). He said that 3/8” chips were less noisy, had a 3-5-year life, and provided a smoother ride; ¾” chips had greater longevity (five to seven years), more skid resistance, and was less expensive due to its longer life cycle. The disadvantages of ¾” chips were that they were noisier, caused windshield damage and tire wear, and created a rougher surface. He stated that the issue was money. He said that slurry-seal was more of an urban, residential application because it did not winter well or stand up to high truck traffic. The County’s maintenance program was on a five-to-seven year incremental basis for chip-sealing, and a twenty-to-twenty-four year basis for overlay. He said that since other Colorado counties had varying unique climates, comparisons to other counties’ practices were inconclusive, but typically chip-seal size was selected by road surface, and the chip-seal cycle was either six, seven, or eight years. He concluded that using ¾” chips was an aggressive maintenance technique selected in the best interest of taxpayer dollars. Commissioner Stahoviak asked how many miles of County roads the County maintained and of those miles, how many had hard surfaces. Mr. Draper will find those statistics and report them later in the evening. Commissioner Monger asked Mr. Draper what standards and information were used to support his longevity statements. Mr. Draper said that personal experience in the County supported his conclusions, but none of the CARSE information discussed chip size in relation to longevity of the product. He noted that contractors received a range of oil, and between 17% and 35% more oil was applied to the ¾” chip than the 3/8”, so the sealing ability was greater. Commissioner Monger asked whether the larger chip was knocked out by plows more frequently. Mr. Draper said that some damage was sustained one winter, but generally the larger chip coming out had not been a problem. He added that in terms of fractured surfaces, both sizes had the same specifications; it was a matter of a different application rate rather than the surface, and all chip-seal applications were based on Colorado Department of Highways (CDOT) standards. PUBLIC COMMENT Mr. Orton said that the single goal this evening was to get smoother road surfaces with fewer loose stones on County roads. He questioned Mr. Draper’s statement that Routt County citizens were getting the best deal for their money. He presented chips gathered along a private chip-sealed road and photographs of size comparisons. He stated that chipsealing had negative economic impacts to the area and referenced letters from Ride the Rockies, which spent approximately $500,000 in the area each year, and Bicycle Tours of Colorado, which spent $90,000 in the County this year, as evidence that if groups chose not to continue coming to the area due to rough roads, it would affect the economy significantly; that cycling businesses in the area could confirm that cycling was an economic boost to the area; that future negative publicity in cycling magazines was possible due to the County’s road surfaces; that citizens’ costs not being considered included extra gasoline to drive on the road surface, paint chip repairs, greater tire wear, and broken windshields; that safety Page 04-535 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes was an issue for cyclists and motorcyclists due to traction issues and loose rocks on road edges, which forced cyclists to the middle of the road; that the County’s skiing heritage was in jeopardy due to training on roads being impossible; that Routt County had the reputation of having worse roads than other Colorado counties; that chip-sealing precluded increasing the economic benefits gained by promoting cycling in the area; that road cycling was becoming more popular; and that the County could be a Mecca for road cycling if the County broadened its analysis and vision to accommodate that tourism demographic. He encouraged the County to raise its standards to the level that this world-class community deserved. Mr. Hagney, an employee of Moots, stated that currently 60% of its sales were road bikes, which sold for between $5,000 and $6,000 each; that the number of people coming to Steamboat Springs to tour the factory has grown substantially; that 70% of the people who visited the store were road bikers rather than mountain bikers; that economically, cycling was increasingly viable; and that having smoother roads would enhance cyclists’ experience, which would increase cyclist visits, and that such experiences would not have to be marketed because groups as well as individuals would return every year since the area was so scenic. He concluded that to continue this growing attraction that generated significant income, the County’s roads had to be smoother. He noted that the difference between 3/8” and ¾” chipseal was noticeable even in a vehicle; that chip-seal became smoother as it was compacted; and that chips used in Europe, where cycling was an important travel mode, were smaller than ¾”, even in the Alps, and provided a smoother ride because the chips settled tighter. Mr. Morone said that he was speaking from a taxpayer and resource perspective rather than a bicycling one. He said that he worked in Jackson County permitting gravel operations for the County. He thought that Jackson County was less affluent than Routt County but noted that it also covered a large area and had an extensive road system. He said that the many roads that radiated from Walden were all paved, and he estimated that more of Jackson County’s roads were paved than Routt’s. He stated that a year prior to chipsealing a road, Jackson County applied extensive gravel, applied ¾” chips the first year, then in subsequent years applied finer gravel. He said that finer-chipped roads held moisture for a shorter period of time, and trapped moisture reduced longevity. He suggested applying multiple coats of thinner rock. He stated that spherical rocks, regardless of size, created 33% void space, so if an equal thickness of small chips were used, an equal volume of oil would be applied, which meant that actual chip size did not determine the amount of oil needed. He said that void spaces in thick layers were evident even after the top coat had been sprayed, so the oil used was not enough to fill the voids between larger rocks laid in thicker coats. He listed recent chip-sealed sections of road and asked why those roads, such as County Road 14, had so many asphalt patches if chip-sealing were such a good surfacing method. He suggested that an economic analysis should include asphalt overlay costs versus chipsealing and asphalt patching. He noted that his property taxes had increased 50% in the last fifteen years, and he wanted to know what he was getting for that increase. He realized that the Airport and the Fairgrounds’ lighting projects had cost a lot, but he felt that maintaining roads and infrastructure was more important than ‘peripheral expenditures.’ He added that the last time he rode his bike to Hahn’s Peak Village, he incurred $120 in flat tires, so he was voting for whichever candidates would provide decent infrastructure and paved roads. Page 04-536 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Mr. Moss, a self-selected representative of rural Routt County residents, said that he had supported the chip-sealing of Seedhouse Road, which has greatly reduced costs of repairs to his vehicle as well as the maintenance required on the road. He thought the County Road 129 and Mad Creek Bridge projects, while inconvenient when occurring, were an accepted fact of living in rural Routt County and had ultimately reduced road maintenance. He stated that if drivers observed speed limits and kept a safe distance from other vehicles, chipped paint and windshields would not be an issue. In regard to the safety issue, he noted that the ‘Share the Road’ signs on County Road 129 referred to cyclists as well as motorists: riding two or three abreast, close together, and riding close to the driving lane on a road that had much wide motor home traffic were hazardous and irresponsible practices: County Road 129, which has no shoulders, was not designed for use by both motorists and cyclists. He stated that rural Routt County residents paid a significant portion of the County’s property taxes, and the best use of those funds was for road maintenance. He felt that the Commissioners did an excellent job providing the best maintenance for the least money, and the well-considered five-year maintenance program, made known to everyone, gave cyclists a choice as to whether to ride a road on which a chip-seal project was occurring. He requested that the Commissioners make the most effective use of taxpayer dollars and methods, even if that meant inconveniencing a small group of riders. Mr. Handloff said that he and others had met with Mr. Draper the previous week to discuss many of the technical issues that had been raised this evening. He felt that points of agreement were that chip-sealing was strictly a surface coating that was not designed to provide strength or structure to a road; chip-sealing can preserve an existing road if applied correctly to a stable surface and at an appropriate time in the life of a road surface; chipsealing, even with ¾” gravel, can be an improvement to an existing gravel road; the proper size and adequate depth of asphalt was critical to the life of the road; chip-sealed surfaces were rougher, noisier, and more likely to cause wear and damage to vehicles; using a fog coat increased the life of a road; and 3/8” chip-sealed roads were an acceptable solution to road maintenance for certain roads including County Roads 129, County Road 14 including Yellow Jacket Pass, County Roads 16, 33, 27, 15, and 17, and River Road, Bartholomew Lane, and Hilton Gulch. Points of disagreement included the notion that recent chip-seal projects lacked quality control, for example County Roads 14 and 16 near Stagecoach; chips should be buried in a layer of 60-to-75% asphalt, which was not being achieved at present; the type of rock used did not bind or fit together well, and smooth rock fit less well than fractured rock; the longevity of ¾” has not been substantiated adequately, and information supplied by Mr. Draper regarding 3/8” rock related to State highways, which had greater volumes of traffic and more truck traffic than most County roads; smooth pavements shed water better because they had fewer crevices; trapped water in ¾” surfaces can freeze and cause slipperier roads than the 3/8”-surfaced roads; ¾” chips might not be less expensive than smooth overlays or smaller gravel because 3/8” costs less and ¾” requires more asphalt and road users have greater costs on roads chipped with ¾” stone. He said that County paving was the largest expense for which taxpayer dollars were used so the County should study the technical issues raised, increase quality control, and investigate comprehensively long-range costs because using ¾” rock was not the best practice. Page 04-537 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Mr. Connell said that he advocated chip-seal surface treatment in the right applications, but Routt County was not doing it correctly. For example, his company had recently completed a project in Wyoming that had similar climate conditions to Routt County in which the road was paved then chip-seal surfaced with 3/8” gravel only in the travel lane, which provided unimpeded use of the shoulder for cyclists and a wearing course for the pavement. A discrepancy that he noted in Mr. Draper’s presentation related to the cost of different sized chips. He stated that the 3/8” chips made to the County’s specifications were virtually pea gravel and therefore cheaper than ¾” because 3/8” chips were a by-product of making concrete aggregate. Also, 3/8” gravel was readily available from all producers. Another correction was that Routt County’s specifications did not require a fractured surface, and core tests had confirmed that Routt County road surfaces contained round rocks. He stated that the embedment rate was significantly less on 3/8” than ¾” rock. Mr. Connell said that in Mr. Draper’s presentation, the example of a 3/8” use was not the right application: it was on a low volume, city street that was low-productivity for the contractor. When calculating the use of less oil and rock, the cost was different than indicated. He said that the cost of 3/8”, in 1995, was $14,283 per mile, which differed substantially from the $24,000 figure in Mr. Draper’s report. For following best practices, Mr. Connell recommended using a fully fractured rock, regardless of size, because it lasted longer and embedded better, but cost more. He noted that in the past three years, the County had purchased between $32,000 and $148,000 worth of asphalt patching material, which should be factored into the maintenance cost per mile. He maintained that on high-traffic-volume roads, the chip-sealing was not lasting seven years. He said that quality control to monitor tonnages and quantities of oil might be lacking at the jobsite and should be in place full-time; that stating that asphalt patching costs $56 per ton was inaccurate because less was being purchased per year so the cost had to be increased to cover suppliers’ fixed costs; that a project’s life cycle analysis, according to Colorado Asphalt Producers and a T. J. Thompson product, indicated that the costs of a ¾” double chip seal with a single application every six years, and a two-inch asphalt mat and a 1” thin lift overlay, which is what CDOT did on Lincoln Avenue this year, were relatively equal. Road structure had to be taken into account as well as average daily traffic and the number of trucks that use a road. He noted that skid resistance and riding smoothness were scientifically measurable. Mr. Connell offered to sponsor the County’s membership in the Colorado Asphalt Producers, which included 50 governmental entities and municipalities and provided informative conference workshops. Mr. Beaupré said that the paving of State Highway 131 between Toponas and Walcott was beautiful, and the contractor and cost per mile would be interesting information to know. Mr. Connell said that that job was done under CDOT’s maintenance budget, which meant that no reconstruction, safety considerations, or widening was included. He said that the project was two layers of asphalt: an inch leveling course covered with a two-inch mat. Mr. Schlapkohl, on behalf of the Routt County Riders Bicycle Club, said that because the County’s roads were not biker-friendly, the issue was a motorist as well as a cyclist one. He said that Steamboat Springs was a biking community, and people throughout Colorado selected communities such as Boulder and Durango as biking communities. He stated that the Board should recognize that road biking was becoming increasingly popular. He complimented the Road and Bridge Department for chip-sealing gravel roads such as River Page 04-538 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Road, the Hot Springs road, and the Catamount road, with ¾” gravel, which was an appropriate practice if a smaller chip were used in subsequent applications. He said that if roads were plowed less to save money, citizens would object. A corollary was that people would be willing to pay more to have good roads—if paying more were indeed necessary. He noted that the shoulders on County Road 129 had been paved for a number of years, whereas this year’s chip-sealing on that road was bone-jarring. Mr. Schlapkohl questioned the randomness of the chip-sealing projects and noted that those chip-sealed portions of road prevented cyclists from using the entire road. He said that if chip-sealing were the method of choice, the Routt County Riders supported using 3/8” rock. Mr. Arnone agreed generally with Mr. Moss’s statements. He appreciated the chipsealing of gravel roads, but averred that the paved roads were the issue. He said that he had researched the use of slurry-seal, which is chip-seal combined with asphalt prior to the laying down of the mixture, and the information gleaned contradicted Mr. Draper’s statements in that the surface was smoother, more skid resistant, and less than half the cost of chip-seal. He said that Canada used slurry-seal extensively and got four-to-eight years from each application. Slurry-seal was also being used on United States interstates. He felt that many alternatives were available that should be researched, and slurry-seal appeared to be an attractive solution. He noted that polymers could be added for longer life. He asserted that when new chip-sealed roads were wet, they were significantly less skid resistant so safety of drivers and riders should be considered. Mr. Linville said that, although a cyclist, he was speaking this evening as a driver. He said that he had lost three windshields and two headlights in the last ten years, and he had paid less in County property taxes than he had in those repairs. He was willing to be taxed to subsidize an alternative other than chip-sealing. In regard to safety, Mr. Linville said that if cyclists had a smooth place to ride or a bike lane to be out of the way of drivers, they would not need to ride side-by-side, which he conceded was a problem. He stated that it was time that the County provided a safe place for cyclists. Mr. Morone said that County roads should have good clean shoulders, and gravel permittees should be responsible for off-site impacts and should sweep the debris from the shoulders. Mr. Ames stated that, to the best of his knowledge, he was Routt County’s only bike tour operator. He said that according to the Chamber Resort Association, a room night contributed $236 per person to the local economy, and his company, over the last eight years, had contributed over 500 room nights to the local economy. He said that each of his tours had 70 participants or less and that none of his tours could originate in Routt County any longer due to the lack of a safe riding environment, which included non-chipped shoulders, which could be as narrow as one-foot wide. He asked that in the future, whatever method of surface maintenance was chosen, the County would provide a minimum of a 1218” bicycle lane or shoulder. He added that his tours had participants from across the United States and seven other countries, and people loved to come to Steamboat Springs so paved shoulders was an important economic as well as safety issue. Page 04-539 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Mr. Weiss wondered how the group present this evening, which had many suggestions, could facilitate the process. He asked when and how a decision would be made, who would be involved in the decision-making process, and how could people best stay involved and updated. Commissioner Monger said that direction would be given to staff at the end of this meeting. Commissioner Stahoviak said that after public comment had been closed, the Board would discuss the topic, from which would come direction as well as ways in which citizens could stay involved. Ms. Donham said that runners were another group that used the roads, and the Marathon was a large income-producing event that was affected by the lack of shoulders on County Road 129, which was un-runnable because people could twist ankles and sustain blisters. She suggested repaving the road before the next Marathon. Mr. Chovan stated that another consideration was that cycling was not only recreational but a viable form of transportation so cyclists deserved a right to the roads. He said that the cost differences and longevity of ¾” and 3/8” chips in Mr. Draper’s presentation were primarily anecdotal, whereas his research had indicated that most people favored small chips because ice bonded better to the larger chips so the surface was more slippery and required more sand or magnesium chloride use. He said that his research revealed that there was little difference in longevity based on stone size; rather the quality of the aggregate used, the binders used, and the quality of installation were the key factors in the life of a road. He suggested that the Road and Bridge Department experiment with 3/8” because the ¾” prohibited him and others from bike riding to work and doing errands. Mr. Steitz asked that the roads be paved with smaller chips to ensure that the Nordic and Olympic skier legacy continued in Routt County because skiers could not roller ski on the large-stoned chipped roads. He added that he had worked with at least six counties across the United States and some within Colorado on the design and construction of roller ski loops. Mr. Fisher said that at least 100 classic cars, each of which was worth approximately $250,000, had come to Oak Creek last week. Their owners were people who Routt County should try to attract because they had large disposable incomes. If Routt County were basing its economy on tourism, all of the groups that used the roads, including skateboarders and pedestrians, should be considered. Mr. Orton said that the citizens present this evening, rather than being a particular special interest group, were mainstream Routt County residents and taxpayers who practiced a healthy lifestyle. He said that the roads needed to improve rather than be a short-term, low-cost fix. He stated that those present would help in any way possible because they had come to Steamboat for quality of life, and cycling, which would continue to grow, was a part of that lifestyle. Commissioner Ellison closed public comment at this time. Page 04-540 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Mr. Draper said that Routt County’s public road system involved approximately 940 miles, 850 miles of which were maintained at some level, 525 miles of which were in the year-round maintenance program, and 152 miles of which were surfaced. He said that he had worked with a coordinator for Ride the Rockies and had delayed chip-sealing portions of roads scheduled for maintenance until after Ride the Rockies had departed. After the tour was over, Mr. Draper was notified that the easiest day that the Ride the Rockies marking team had had was in Routt County, and his department was complimented on its preparation of County Road 27. He said that patches were needed on chip-sealed roads due to structural failures in the road base because asphalt provided structural integrity, which chip-sealing did not have. He stated that 53% of property taxes went to the school districts, and 26% went to Routt County in general; for every $100,000 of County property tax valuation, Road and Bridge received $9 per residence or $35 per business; the major revenue source for Road and Bridge was from the State through highway user tax funds, which were taxes levied on gasoline and automobile parts. Mr. Draper said that the portions of County Road 129 that were chipped this year were last chipped in 1997, at a cost of $84,900; in 1998, portions of County Road 14 sealed this year were chip-sealed for approximately $40,000. Roughly 85 miles of County roads were on a five-year cycle; 65 miles were on a seven-year cycle. He said that typically chip-sealing and overlays cost between $750,000 and $1,000,000 per year County-wide. He noted that gravel roads that could no longer be maintained were being chip-sealed; that an on-going problem with River Road was water running under the road’s surface; that chip-seal was an urban, residential application because when a road was hot, it was susceptible to damage from heavy, slow-moving vehicles such as trash collection trucks; that roads that used to have gravel shoulders are now being reconstructed to two 12’ lanes with two 3’ shoulders; and that the goal has never been smoothness, it has been durability. Mr. Gabos said that when determining specifications, the CDOT general specifications book, Section 703, was used. Exceptions were also listed, one of which was that ¾” rock spec was a concrete rock specification and has at least two faces fractured, which provides interlocking. The intent was to use fractured rock, and in the future that intent would be made more clear to contractors. Mr. Connell was asked how much of the County’s work his company had done. He said that he had never done chip-seal projects for Routt County but had done asphalt projects. He was asked whether he thought slurry-seal was a viable option. Mr. Connell said that he did not recommend slurry-seal at this altitude with the amount of moisture present and plowing needed. He noted that only a few Colorado companies applied slurry-seal, which was done primarily in urban, downtown areas. He was asked whether, if he were asked to do more asphalt work in Routt County, the cost per mile would go down. He said that since thinlift overlay was new technology, a good product, and provided some structure, it might be a viable option in Routt County. Mr. Draper said that the proposed 2005 chip-seal schedule included 4.5 miles on County Road 27, Amethyst, Bartholomew Lane, County Road 36, the Hot Springs to Soda Page 04-541 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Creek Bridge, County Road 179 for a .5 mile section, and overlay portions of County Roads 76 and 80, County Road 212, and two sections of County Road 129. ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION Commissioner Stahoviak thanked those present for their time and input. She stated that a goal of the Board was to work with citizens to address their concerns, particularly those expressed by bicyclists. She noted that many other resort counties did not have such an extensive road system as Routt County had so they were able to create bike trails and other creative facilities. She said that the majority of the Road and Bridge Department’s funding came from the Colorado Highway Users Trust Fund, the federal government for payment in lieu of taxes for agencies such as the Forest Service, and from the County’s sales tax revenues. She explained that the property tax portion that did not go to Road and Bridge went into the County’s General Fund, which supports several departments such as the Clerk and Recorder’s Office, the Assessor’s Office, the Treasurer’s Office, the Sheriff’s Office, the Detention Center, the Planning Department, the Environmental Health Department, Human Services, the Extension Office, the Emergency Management Department, and the Communications Department so taxpayer dollars did a lot. She stated that some asphalt patching areas, such as on County Road 14, were patched because those areas had not been reconstructed, and the underlying structure was not a good surface on which to lay a hard surface, but at present funds were not available to complete the reconstruction of County Road 14. She said that the County had been asked to construct bike lanes on several County roads, such as Strawberry Park Road, but a major challenge was the acquisition of rights-of-way, which was a lengthy and expensive process initially and increased the cost of maintenance and repairs on an on-going basis. She stated that no taxpayer dollars were used in the construction of the multi-purpose covered arena at the Fairgrounds; rather, grants, donations, and fund-raisers organized by the 4-H Club, the Fair Board, and the Extension Office were used for that building. In regard to the comment about the money spent at the Yampa Valley Regional Airport, Commissioner Stahoviak said that the infrastructure improvements were primarily funded from federal Airport Improvement Program grants, which generally require only a 10% local match. She agreed that the longevity of each size of chip should be further explored, and the pricing of 3/8” chips should be investigated further. She said that in terms of the next step, the Board would be meeting with each County department to discuss their 2005 budgets in the near future. Some of those work sessions would take place on October 6th and 7th in the Yampa Valley Medical Center Conference Room; the Board would publish the times and departments involved in those sessions. She suggested that a few representatives from those present this evening be selected to work with Road and Bridge and communicate with the Commissioners to ensure that the Board answered questions, addressed concerns, and conveyed to the citizenry the challenges faced by the Board in devising the budget. She said that as a compromise, the roads most traveled by the cycling public that were scheduled to be chipped in 2005 could get a smoother surface, and subsequently, over time, the cost of doing that and the longevity could be evaluated. Mr. Orton said that the attendees were not asking for bike lanes; they would be satisfied with shoulders. Page 04-542 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes Commissioner Monger said that he appreciated everyone’s attendance this evening; that it was important to hear people’s views; that he had not previously understood the magnitude of the situation; and that the three major issues appeared to be whether to chip or not, the size of the chips, and chips on shoulders. He said that the County was trying to be as proactive as possible with the limited resources available, to serve the County’s citizens, and to address safety concerns. He concurred with Commissioner Stahoviak that after certain roads that were integral to tours and riding were identified, a different plan could be devised. He felt that more information was needed on chip size longevity and cost, then if some roads had smaller chips, data could be obtained that took into consideration factors such as average daily traffic. He said that shoulders were needed on roads to be reconstructed, but shoulders could not be created without reconstructing the road, which reverted to the budget issue. Commissioner Ellison stated that the Road and Bridge Department had accomplished a great deal in the last twenty-five years, such as replacing all of the 20’-long bridges, paving many roads, and upgrading others. He agreed that some review of the chip-seal program was necessary. He noted that the budget amount would not change much, but doing some things differently based on the comments provided this evening was possible. He said that in relation to the shoulders, the effect on the edges of the road would need to be considered. He said that Routt County was larger than the state of Delaware but had a smaller population so tax monies were more limited, and some Colorado counties were smaller or had fewer roads due to the high percentage of public lands in them, so the quality of roads in other counties could not necessarily be compared to Routt County’s extensive road system. Commissioner Stahoviak said that Twentymile Coal had a Special Use Permit for coal hauling along County Road 27 so everyone would have to work together for equitable solutions since coal mining and utility companies were among the highest taxpayers in Routt County. She added that County Road 27 did, however, have shoulders, which should alleviate safety concerns regarding cycling and truck traffic. She noted that Routt County had worked hard to ensure that the reconstruction and widening of Colorado State Highway 131 continued to include shoulders. Commissioner Ellison added that the State Highway Plan included two additional upgrading phases on Colorado State Highway 131. No further business coming before the Board, same adjourned sine die. ____________________________ Kay Weinland, Clerk and Recorder ______________________________ Daniel R. Ellison, Chairman Pro Tem Page 04-543 September 21, 2004 Routt County Board of County Commissioners’ Minutes
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