Downloaded from https:/www.cambridge.org/core. IP address: 88.99.165.207, on 17 Jun 2017 at 21:44:00, subject to the Cambridge Core terms of use, available at https:/www.cambridge.org/core/terms. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0003055400282117 1000 THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SCIENCE KEVIEW To THE EDITOR: We found Wilson's comments on our first draft helpful and thought it polite to thank him for them, but we did not feel obliged to revise the article to reflect his views rather than ours. There are two main points at issue: what Banfield and Wilson said in City Politics, and what would constitute valid procedures for verifying their propositions. One of the "three main lines of analysis" in City Politics "concerns the political ethos and emphasizes the fundamental cleavage between the public-regarding, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, middle-class ethos and the private-regarding, lower-class, immigrant ethos" (p. 329). "Public-regardingness" includes preferences for the various governmental forms and policies mentioned in the first paragraph of the preceding letter. "People who are decidedly public-regarding or decidedly private-regarding on one matter tend to be so on all matters" (ibid.). Earlier studies reported that cities with "private-regarding" governmental institutions had larger foreign-stock populations. Banfield and Wilson cited these studies in support of their theory, apparently untroubled by doubta about their relevance. Their second thoughts on this score seem to have come only after reading our study, which found no such relationships. Unlike the studies which they cited, we did control for such factors as state laws, region, city size, and other population characteristics. Not only did Banfield and Wilson accept these earlier findings as support for their theory, they also asserted on pages 55 and 169 that the preferences of a city's residents would be reflected in its governmental forms and policies. While we agree that both passages are "vaguer than they should be," it is difficult to find in either of them support for the present claim that they represent the thought of Williams and Sherbenou rather than that of Banfield and Wilson. We did not attribute to Banfield and Wilson the belief that one variable is "the cause" of cities' institutions and policies, but we did read City Politics as saying that the prevailing ethos in a city is of some importance in this respect. The basic issue is the validity of our assumption (which also used to be Banfield and Wilson's) that there is a relationship between the attitudes of a city's residents and the nature of its institutions and policies. Banfield and Wilson's letter seems to deny that the impact of the dominant ethos can be discerned through the tangle of other independent variables. As we said, we think that if the "publicregarding" and "private-regarding" ethics are as important as Banfield and Wilson assert, their effects should be observable in the aggregate, if the data analysis includes the controls that we used. The 1960 foreign-stock population, incidentally, is a fairly accurate reflection of cities' composition over the past two generations, with the exceptions noted in our article. We agree that the foreign-stock population includes a vast and disparate array of social types, as does the category of "old American." These two groupings are so broad as to be meaningless. We said as much in our article. But until now, Banfield and Wilson have taken the opposite position. In City Politics they said that the first hypothesis "that might be derived from our discussion of ethos" is "that in all social classes the proportion of voters who are decidedly public-regarding is higher among Protestants than among other ethnic groups" (p. 235). Throughout the book uppermiddle-class Jews are said to be as "publicregarding" as Protestants, and there are one or two terse and casual suggestions that PolishAmericans are particularly likely to be "private-regarding." Their subsequent article extended this latter characterization to people of Czech descent. Otherwise, Banfield and Wilson have not heretofore distinguished among various kinds of ethnics or old-stock Americans. We are pleased that they have come around to our point of view. It is also a good thing that they are now doing research to verify their theory. Their finding that voters of Polish and Czech descent tend to be opposed to municipal expenditures in Cuyahoga County and Chicago is interesting, but it is not evidence that these voters are also opposed to the city manager plan, nonpartisan elections, or any of the other alleged elements of "public-regardingness." We are also pleased that Banfield and Wilson share our belief in the need for clarifying their theory; pages 306-310 and 324-326 of our article should be of some help to them. RAYMOND E. WOLFINGER JOHN OSGOOD FIELD Stanford University To THE EDITOR: I'd like to add a long footnote to a long footnote in Jack Walker's, "A Critique of the Elitist Theory of Democracy," (this REVIEW, June, 1966). In footnote 13, Walker cites Herbert McClosky's "Consensus and Ideology in American Politics," as furnishing important data to support the view that it is elite consensus and the apathy of relatively "un- Downloaded from https:/www.cambridge.org/core. 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Within the context of his argument, "these risks" appear to be examples of what may happen when previously apathetic, confused masses become politically involved. And yet it seems clear that the activities of dissatisfied "elite" groups have played a significant role in such causes. Can one discuss McCarthyism without noting the role of public officials and party activists in encouraging and condoning his activities! Can one discuss the Birch Society without noting sympathy it receives from elected officials, not to mention delegates at the 1964 Republican convention. (It would be fascinating to know if McClosky's data might look different if based on the 1964 rather than the 1956 conventions.) Can one deal with the Impeach Earl Warren campaign without noting the widespread attacks on the Supreme Court by prominent elected officials and political activists? These phenomena are not merely examples of mass support for "undemocratic" causes. The point is this: McClosky's argument tends toward an oversimplified picture of "democracy" maintained by political elites while threatened from time to time by nonpolitical masses. He fails to take into account the other side of the picture: the damage that can be done, both passively and actively, by relatively small numbers of "undemocratic" political activists. The second point concerns McClosky's assumption that America is, in fact, a "democracy." This assumption is nowhere discussed and the failure to discuss it leads to confusion. If we simply assume "democracy" exists, then, given McClosky's data, it seems natural to conclude that this existence must be related to elite behavior, since elites seem to have the more democratic attitudes. If, on the other hand, we assume America falls seriously short of approximately democratic norms in certain areas, then we cannot be sure what conclusions to draw from McClosky's data. Perhaps the elite is responsible for these failures to achieve democracy, perhaps not. Carrying this point a step further: in an area such as social and ethnic equality where failure to approximate democratic norms is infamous, McClosky's data indicate both elite and mass public divided around the 50% mark—for and against. What does this tell us about where the responsibility for failure lies? Not very much. To create "democracy" by assumption, as McClosky does, prematurely closes crucial questions for those concerned with concretely relating mass and elite behavior to the degree of "democracy" achieved in particular areas. It is good that Walker, Christian Bay and others have re-opened these matters. LEWIS LIPSITZ University of North Carolina To THE EDITOR: In his "Summary Report" (this REVIEW, 60, 354-365), Dr. Deutsch advances conclusions and prescriptions which are fraught with farreaching implications for the foreign and national security policies of the United States. The following comments are addressed to the evidence which Dr. Deutsch adduces in support of said conclusions and prescriptions. Although, under the rubric Evidence, Dr. Deutsch refers (p. 355) to findings derived from the analysis of the French, West German, British and American elite press; public opinion polls; surveys of arms control proposals; and a collection of "aggregative data about actual behavior," he bases his conclusions mainly and explicitly upon evidence derived from elite interviews conducted in the summer of 1964. Among the various kinds of evidence adduced, this item occupies by far the relatively largest space of the "Summary." Its salience can be easily derived by coding. Indeed, Dr. Deutsch's quantitative and literary emphasis leaves no doubt about the heavy weight he assigns to the evidence of elite interviews 1964. According to Dr. Deutsch, these interviews were conducted with 147 French and 173 West German respondents. Although he writes (p. 358) that these interviews "are discussed at considerable length elsewhere," he does not disclose the place where this lengthy discussion can be found. He does not provide any information on the criteria for the selection of the aforementioned respondents, for the choice of season and calendar year, and the structure, if any, of the interviews. His samples seem unduly small, raising questions as to whether Dr. Deutsch's research design is well grounded in
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