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Macedonia-Turkey Reflections:
Between Geopolitical History, Great
Ataturk, and Ordinary People
Prof. Dr. Georgi M. Dimirovski (1 & 2)
Active Member of the European Academy of Sciences & Arts, Salzburg, F.R. Austria
Foreign Member of the Academy of Engineering Sciences, Belgrade, Rep. of Serbia
Research Professor of Automation & Systems Engineering
(1)-
SS Cyril and Methodius University, Skopje, Rep. of Macedonia
And
Professor of Control and Information Sciences
(2)- Dogus University of Istanbul, Istanbul, Rep. of. Turkey
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Dedicated to the Friendship of the People of Twin
Cities Radovish, Macedonia, and Seldjuk, Turkey
OUTLINE OF THE PRESENTATION
1. PROLOGUE
2. CONTEMPORARY REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA IN THE EYES OF
TURKISH JOURNALISTS
3. HONOURING THE GREAT ATATURK IN MACEDONIA:
MACEDONIA AND TURKEY
4. ONE MORE LOOK BACK TO HISTORICAL TIMES
5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS AND TURKS
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1. PROLOGUE: Lord Patrick Kinross’s Book
“Peace at home - peace abroad”
The great Gazi Mustafa
Kemal Pasha - Ataturk
“I am Macedonian. But
I make no territorial claims.”
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1. PROLOGUE: On the Sunset of Ottoman Empire
Istanbul at the beginning
of the 20th century, before the
First Balkan War
Skopje (Uskub) at the beginning
the 20th century before the First
Balkan War
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1. PROLOGUE: A French Author on Nations of Europe
The nations of Europe as seen by a contemporary French Author not
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so long time ago, just a couple of decades only
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1. PROLOGUE: About Europe, Macedonia and Turkey
On the map of Europe
On the map of Balkans
A map as seen by Western (above) and by Turkish (below) journalists6
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1. PROLOGUE: Ordinary People in Macedonia and Turkey
Grandfather Kerim
Grandfather Kuzman 7
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2. CONTEMPORARY REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA IN THE
EYES OF TURKISH JOURNALISTS
Centuries old and
heritage treasures of
provide for common
co-existence:
peace abroad.”
most valuable
both cultures
grounds and
“Peace at home,
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2. CONTEMPORARY REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA IN THE
EYES OF TURKISH JOURNALISTS
Skopje’s Stonebridge of Murad I
(XIV century) nowadays only
pedestrian and in the city center
From “Kale of Skopje” Back-view on Mustafa-Pasha Mosque,
opposite to the Stonebridge
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2. CONTEMPORARY REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA IN
THE EYES OF TURKISH JOURNALISTS
A part of downtown Ohrid –
Macedonia
A part of downtown Kutahya –
Turkey
Which downtown looks more Turkish, and vice-versa which
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downtown looks more Macedonian ?!
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2. CONTEMPORARY REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA IN
THE EYES OF TURKISH JOURNALISTS
Centuries old but intact Church of St. Klement in Ohird (Left) and
the newly built one also in Byzantine style Church of St. Klement in
Plaoshnik (right) just beneath of the Tzar Samuel’s Fortress City on
the Ohridean Hill, the capital of short lived Second Macedonian
Empire at permanent war with Byzantium Empire (X-XI century) 11
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3. HONOURING GREAT ATATURK IN MACEDONIA:
MACEDONIA AND TURKEY
Museum - restored houses of Ataturk’s father and grandfather, the ancestor of
whom were Yuruks from Konya and Aydin who had settled down in the village
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“Kodjadjik”, contemporary Municipality “Centar Zhupa” , in the XV cntury.
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3. HONOURING THE GREAT ATATURK IN
MACEDONIA: MACEDONIA AND TURKEY
Memorial Room of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the great commander
and visionary statesman, who is rightly called “Father of Turks”. 13
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3. HONOURING THE GREAT ATATURK IN
MACEDONIA: MACEDONIA AND TURKEY
Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha (left);
Exponents in Museum of Bitola
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4. ONE MORE LOOK BACK TO HISTORICAL TIMES
Historical Military College in Bitola (Manstir) that was attended
by Mustafa Kemal and where he demonstrated not only
outstanding military skills but also outstanding results in Physics
and Mathematics as well as knowledge of History and Languages.15
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4. ONE MORE LOOK BACK TO HISTORICAL TIMES
Before First Balkan War
Major Mustafa Kemal
(left)
Lieutenant Saltir
Koshevaliski (right)
A famous Ottoman Macedonian Turk, and a not famous Ottoman
Macedonian who served well and had fallen in famous Battle of
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Edirne defending the Ottoman Empire
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4. ONE MORE LOOK BACK TO HISTORICAL TIMES
Family Koshevaliski in Shtip (Ishtip) a photo in spring 1911, at
that time my wife’s father has not been born as yet; he was born
after Balkan Wars and given the name Saltir in memory of his late
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brother Lt. Saltir Bey who had fallen at the Battle of Edirne.
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4. ONE MORE LOOK BACK TO HISTORICAL TIMES
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk – Statesman and Reformer, Father of
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Turks, and a father as every ordinary man.
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
My pleasant encounter with a Muslim Macedonian (“Torbesh”) in Bornova Izmir: Mr Presidents of “Makedonya Gochmenleri”; also in Karshiyaka – Izmir
with young Colleagues from Dokuz Eylul University, all graduate students of
my most dear friend Prof. Dr.-Ing. Erol Uyar
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
Prof. Dr.-Ing. Erol UYAR, the first from the right, and me with my
countrymen “Makedonya Gochmenler” in their premises in
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Bornova, in April 2008
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
Prof. Dr.-Ing. Erol UYAR and me together with my countrymen “Makedonya
Gochmenler” in their club-café in Bornova, in April 2008.
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS AND
TURKS
Prof. Dr.-Ing. Erol Uyar, me and our graduate students at the premises of the
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Graduate Institute of Dokuz Eylul University.
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
Two soldiers of the same Yugoslav People’s Army (JNAJugoslovenska Narodna Armija): the first one during rather difficult
years of late 1940s and early 1950s, the second one during the late
1960s. Honourable Ladies and Gentlemen, among them who may
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be a Macedonian and who is a Turk, please?
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
 Ohridean Lake Region - UNESCO World Heritage of Culture and Natural
Environment in my little home country Republic of Macedonia
 City of Ohrid – The city that has been referred to as Jerusalem of the Balkans
during the ages of Ottoman Empire; a part of Ohridean Lake is also seen.
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
 The fortress on top of the hill is the remaining of the fortress
capital city of the short-lived Second Macedonian Empire (9691018) founded by Tzar Samuel (976-1014), whose crown was
blessed by Pope Gregory V, and who was at permanent war
with Byzantium Empire (which claimed all of the Ancient
Macedonian Empire as before the Roman Empire did too).
More impressive to notice are the following facts of our
cultural history. St. Clement Ohridski, Archbishop and
father-creator of Cyrilic Alphabet, on the grounds of
Hellenic alphabet, as well as of Old-Slavonic language, had
founded in the 9th Century A.D. the Ohridean School of Letters and
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Theology in Plaoshnik Church, right beneath the fortress city.
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
 This was a kind of high school at the time when in Europe no
university or a school alike existed outside Roma in the Vatican.
Under his guidance more than 3000 pupils have been educated
in Cyrilic Alphabet and Old Slavonic, based on a Macedonian
dialect around Sallonica, and then send to preach Jesus Christ’s
teaching to all Slavic nations of that time. Contemporary
Russian alphabet and language are the closest ones to that of St.
Clemant’s. Contemporary Russian alphabet and language are
the closest ones to that of St. Clemant’s.
 On the opposite South-Eastern end of Ohridean Lake, there
stands up to nowadays Monastery of St. Naum Ohridski, who
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5. A FEW STORIES ABOUT ORDINARY MACEDONIANS
AND TURKS
to conduct both physician’s practice and research studies over the
whole of the Balkans. Thus the corner of Macedonia in the South
West, bordering Albania, indeed had been a cradle of culture and
knowledge hence Byzantium Empire invaded it over and over
again in order to hold it within its frontiers until it finally
collapsed to Ottoman’s Conquest in the year 1371, within Ottoman
Empire .
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I Dedicate Cordially this Presentation to the
Friendship of the People of Twin Cities
Radovish in Macedonia and Seldjuk in Turkey
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Thank you so much for your kind attention.
Yashasan Turkiye – Yashasan Makedonya!
With all due respect of mine,
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