LETTER TO THE EDITOR Simpkins et al. (l, 2) and Pearlman et al. (3) reflect to which degree (and to some degree where) the drug is bound to the polynucleotide. To get any information on the distribution of the drug in question, however, simulated fluorescence decay curves for different distributions must be compared with the measured ones. Quantitation of drug binding to polynucleotides can be studied by much simpler and more accurate methods. Great caution must therefore be paid when using Tb3+ as a probe for guanine/drug interactions. We refer interested readers to our previous work (4) for a summation of the criteria that must be fulfilled when using Tb3+ for such investigations. Fig. 2. Time-resolved fluorescence of Tb3* bound to DNA at two Tb'VDNA ratios in the absence or presence of doxorubicin (D/P = 1/500). Fluorescence at S44 nm (slit width, 20 uni) was measured with a gating time window of 0.02 ms in an Hitachi Perkin-Elmer LS-5 fluorescence spectrometer in the phosphoresc ence mode. Excitation was performed at 290 nm (slit width, 10 nm). SO »AI (phosphate) calf thymus DNA (Sigma) in 20 HIMTris (pH = 7.4) were incubated without (D. O) or with (•.•¿) 0.1 «Mdoxorubicin (Farmitalia Carlo Erba). Ti><ï, (Riedel-de Haen) was thereafter added to a final concentration of 25 JIM(O, •¿) or 100 MM(D, •¿). Tb3* fluorescence at zero time of solutions with 100 MMTb3* was arbitrarily set to 1.0. The excitation pulse profile was narrow and is not shown (see Ref. 4). RNA. The concentration of free actinomycin D is far too low to quench the fluorescence of RNA bound Tb3+. Also in sentence 4 of their "Note" the authors say "the results reported here showing no effect of AD-32 on terbium:poly(rG), rRNA, and poly(dG dC) •¿ poly(dG •¿ dC) fluorescence " As far as we can see from Figs. 2 and 3 of this article (3), there was an effect of AD-32 on Tb3* fluorescence. We have shown quite explicitly, in this communication and a previous one (4), that resonance energy transfer from Tb3+ to drugs absorbing in the visible region is the main reason for quenching of Tb3+ fluorescence irrespective of D/P ratio. Since energy may be transferred from Tb3+ to doxorubicin molecules situated as far as 13 basepairs away, Tb3+ fluorescence does not tell anything about the "guanine-specificity" of anthracyclines. Others have also shown that doxorubicin binds as well to A-T as to G-C basepairs (10). Hence, we suggest that the results of Trond Stokke Department of Biophysics The Norwegian Radium Hospital Mon tebello Oslo 3, Norway References 1. Simpkins, H., Pearlman, L. F., and Thompson, L. M. Effects of Adriamycin on supercoiled DNA and calf thymus nucleosomes studied with fluorescent probes. Cancer Res.. ¿¥.-613-618,1984. 2. Simpkins, H., and Pearlman, L. F. The binding of actinomycin D and Adriamycin to supercoiled DNA, single-stranded DNA and polynucleotides. Biochim. Biophys. Acta, 783: 293-300, 1984. 3. Pearlman, L. F., Chuang, R. Y., Israel, M., and Simpkins, H. Interaction of three second-generation anthracyclines with polynucleotides, RNA, DNA and nucleosomes. Cancer Res., 46: 341-346, 1986. 4. Stokke, T., and Steen, H. B. Neither Adriamycin nor actinomycin D displaces Tb3* from DNA. Biochim. Biophys. Acta, «25:416-418, 1985. 5. Gersanovski, D., Colson, P., Houssier, C., and Fredericq, E. Terbium(3+) as a probe of nucleic acids structure. Does it alter the DNA conformation in solution? Biochim. Biophys. Acta, 824: 313-323, 1985. 6. Widom, J. and Baldwin, R. L. Cation-induced toroidal condensation of DNA. J. Mol. Biol., 144:431-453, 1980. 7. Stokke, T., and Steen, H. B. Multiple binding modes for Hoechst 33258 to DNA. J. Histochem. Cytochem., 33: 333-338, 1985. 8. Horrocks, W. D., and Sudnick, D. R. Lanthanide ion probes in biology. Laser-induced luminescence decay constants provide a direct measure of the number of metal-coordinated water molecules. J. Am. Chem. Soc., 101:334340, 1979. 9. Muller, W., and Gautier, F. Interactions of heteroaromatic compounds with nucleic acids. Eur. J. Biochem., 54: 385-394, 1975. 10. Graves, D. E.. and Krugh, T. R. Adriamycin and daunorubicin bind in a cooperative manner to deoxyribonucleic acid. Biochemistry, 22: 3941-3947, 1983. Reply The initial report of Stokke and Steen (1) and the above letter are interesting additional experimental data but suffer from overinterpretation. The authors show that the addition of dox orubicin depresses the phosphorescence decay curve of the DNA-Tb3+ complex significantly. The resultant curve is not parallel to that of the control as would be expected if displace ment of Tb3* was the sole event occurring, indicating that energy transfer must also occur. The observed effects on the phosphorescence decay curve can be explained by: (a) energy transfer (quenching) in solution from Tb3+ directly to the drug [this has recently been shown to occur by Candida et al. (T)} and/or (b) energy transfer from Tb3+ to the drug/polynucleotide complex. The latter alternative assumes that the drug is bound to the DNA within a short distance from the Tb3+ ion to enable energy transfer to take place. In addition, displacement of Tb3+ Added in Proof (3) referred to process (a) which does not involve drug binding to the polynucleotide. It must be pointed out that displacement of Tb3* can occur in the presence of energy transfer (quenching); however it is impossible to determine unambiguously if this is the case by phosphorescence decay measurements since the decay curves will be parallel only if terbium displacement is the sole process that occurs. If displacement and energy transfer are occurring together, then the curves will not be parallel and it becomes difficult to establish whether energy transfer is the sole expla nation of the process or not. To resolve these questions, nonspectroscopic techniques must be employed. Equilibrium di alysis has been employed to determine Tb3+ binding to poly nucleotides (4) but has not been used to investigate the effects of the anthracyclines on the terbium binding process. Extrapolation of phosphorescence decay curves to zero time, may also occur in addition to (a) and/or (b). Unfortunately it was not clear in Stokke and Steen's original publication whether as described by Stokke and Steen (1) and in the above letter, to process (a) or (b) was supposed to occur and thus our "Note determine if the curves extrapolate back to the same point are also liable to error. The curves presented below commence at Received 6/7/88, revised 8/15/88; accepted 8/23/88. the first experimental point and are not arbitrarily extrapolated 6963 Downloaded from cancerres.aacrjournals.org on June 17, 2017. © 1988 American Association for Cancer Research. LETTER TO THE EDITOR back to the same point at zero time. Our results show that doxorubicin does affect the Tb3+:DNA decay curve, as does 100.0J (A) actinomycin D to a lesser extent (Fig. 1). When poly(rG) was employed, similar results were obtained with doxorubicin (Fig. 2A), but only a minor effect was observed with actinomycin. This is predictable in light of actinomycin D nonreactivity with ribonucleotides. Oligo(dG)4, when allowed to react with doxo rubicin, also exhibited marked changes on the decay curve, but not with actinomycin D (Fig. 2B) probably reflecting the pro pensity of this drug to bind to —¿GpC— sequences The results with both poly(rG) and oligo(dG)4 are interesting since, at the concentrations employed (25 fi\t), neither can form a double helix. Additionally, it is difficult to imagine that oligoUK. ).,will form any structure at all at this concentration. In fact, Tb3+ fluorescence enhancement is maximal with this length oligomer (4), an observation ascribed to the formation of secondary structure with longer chain polynucleotides. Poly(rG) at this concentration forms a stacked structure but not a helix. Thus doxorubicin can alter the Tb3+ fluorescence intensity and phosphorescence decay curve without intercalat ing within a helical structure. This result is consistent with results reported in our first publication (5) which noted a decrease in Tb3+ fluorescence with the monomer, 5'-GMP. Thus the statement made in the letter above "lack of quenching ... is of course due to the fact that actinomycin D does not bind to RNA" does not hold true since displacement of terbium or energy transfer from the nonbound drug could occur (or a 100.0 .6 8 t<j(msec) Fig. 2. A, phosphorescence decay curves of poly(rG) (25 ^M) (O) treated with Adriamycin for 30 min at 37'C at D/P of 1/500 (•),1/50 (»)and actinomycin D at D/P of 1/500 (•)and 1/50 (A). The samples were then reacted with Tb'* (50 JIM)for 15 min at 25"C. The spectroscopy was performed as described in Fig. 1. B, phosphorescence decay curves of oligo(dG)* (25 nM) (O) treated with Adriamycin for 20 min at 37"C at D/P of 1/500 (•),1/50 (A), and actinomycin D at D/P of 1/500 (•)and 1/50 (A). The samples were then reacted with Tb3* (50 >iM).The spectroscopy was performed as described in Fig. 1. mixture of the two). If Stokke and Steen's criterion is employed (that the phosphorescence decay curve of the drug-treated polynucleotide must be extrapolated to zero time) and if this calculated zero time phosphorescence is decreased compared with that of the (non-drug-treated) control and they assume Tb3'1"displacement has occurred, then it is hard to be certain that the curves of the drug-treated samples presented in their letter above and Figs. 1 and 2 must all extrapolate back to the same point at zero time. In addition, it should be pointed out Fig. I. Phosphorescence decay cune of DNA (50 <IM)(O) treated with Adrithat DNA-Tb3+ fluorescence and phosphorescence is approxi amycin for 30 min at 37'C at D/P ratios of 1/500 (•).1/50 (»)and actinomycin mately 2-4% ofthat observed with poly(rG) and oligo(dG)4 (4), D at D/P ratios of 1/500 <•) and 1/50 (A). The samples were then reacted with Tb3* (100 fiM) for 15 min at 25'C. The gate time was 0.05 ms. the delay time and thus liable to far greater error. Also since the Y axis of a was varied between 0.01 to 2 ms. The excitation wavelength was 290 nm, the decay curve is logarithmic, not linear in scale, then extrapola emission wavelength was 544 nm. and the slit widths were 20 nm (emission) and 10 nm (excitation), respectively. tion to zero time is subject to more error. The curve presented 6964 Downloaded from cancerres.aacrjournals.org on June 17, 2017. © 1988 American Association for Cancer Research. LETTER TO THE EDITOR in Fig. 2B for oligo(dG)4 treated with actinomycin D at a D/P of 1/500 lies above the curve of the nontreated oligomer, subsequent experiments resulted in curves slightly above and slightly below the control. This datum is presented to show that both fluorescence and phosphorescence measurements are sub ject to some degree of experimental error. Thus it is difficult to determine precisely what processes are occurring. Certainly energy transfer takes place, but in view of the experiments above it is not clear whether this is the sole explanation, and displacement of Tb3+ may also occur to a greater or lesser extent. As previously suggested, other, nonspectroscopic techniques will have to be employed to unravel this problem. It is evident that more than one process is involved and the statement made in our initial publications, that doxorubicin displaces terbium, was an oversimplification of the fluorescence intensity data. Sophisticated techniques such as phosphorescence decay show the process to be more complex. However, the same criticism can be leveled at the interpretation of phosphorescence decay data. This holds true in the above letter where a calculation was made as to the distance between Tb3+ and the drug binding site on the polynucleotide (32 A). its second generation derivatives [including 3'-deamino-3'-(3cyano-4-morpholinyl)doxorubicin], an anthrapyrazole, and ac tinomycin D were compared to the relative decrease in Tb3+ This calculation must make an assumption as to the orientation factor K, which is dependent on whether the energy acceptor and donor have complete rotational freedom (one value can be calculated) or if one is fixed (the value now ranges from 0.33 to 1.33 depending on the angle between the transition moments of the acceptor and donor) (6). Thus, whether this calculation is meaningful for an elongated and highly charged polynucleo tide can be disputed especially since actinomycin D has base specificity. Therefore the drugs may not bind randomly along the DNA chain and when they do bind, are they fixed or not with respect to Tb3+? In addition, energy transfer from Tb3+ to described by Gross and Simpkins (4). H. Simpkins M. Figliomeni L. Pearlman Department of Pathology Staten Island Hospital and Department of Pathology State University of New York (Downsîate) Brooklyn, New York, 11203-2098 the nonbound drug cannot be ignored and will affect the cal culation in an ill-defined manner. We must also answer the postulate in the above letter that doxorubicin has AT base specificity. The author's rationale is that methyl green, an apparently AT-specific drug (7), results in a similar decrease in fluorescence intensity to that produced by doxorubicin. However, the decrease in fluorescence reported with methyl green is 9% at a D/P of 1/500, whereas a decrease of approximately 30% was reported with Adriamycin. Also at a high D/P ratio (1/50), quenching by the nonbound drug becomes important, and any decreases in fluorescence intensity at this drug concentration may not solely reflect drug binding to the polynucleotide. Secondly, the authors ignore the wide spread literature which suggests that doxorubicin may exhibit slight guanine sensitivity (8) and more precisely that actino mycin D has —¿GpC— specificity (9, 10). In both our publica tions (3, 5) we included the possibility that the drug could react with AT regions proximal to guanine residues. Another point made in the original publication of Stokke and Steen (1) was that drugs with absorption spectra in the 500600-nm region will quench terbium fluorescence. This means that the degree of spectral overlap with Tb3+ should be related to the decrease in fluorescence intensity observed with each drug. When the relative absorbance at 544 nm of doxorubicin, fluorescence that each produced, no correlation was observed. In addition, our initial results with ethidium bromide (5), which are misquoted by Stokke and Steen (1), showed that this inter calating dye did not affect Tb3+-DNA fluorescence but does absorb in this region. In conclusion, our initial reports which attributed the de crease in Tb3+ fluorescence intensity to displacement of terbium were reasonable at the time they were published, since phos phorescence decay instrumentation was not then commonly available. It is now clear employing this more sophisticated technique that the process is more complex. However, phos phorescence decay alone cannot differentiate between the many different processes which may bring about a decrease in terbium fluorescence. It is our feeling that the only means by which the interaction of doxorubicin and its derivatives with Tb3+ and polynucleotides can be studied and the results interpreted un ambiguously is by employment of additional, nonspectroscopic techniques such as equilibrium dialysis employing 160Tb3+as M. Rosen Department of Biology City University of New York Staten Island, New York References 1. Stokke, T., and Steen, H. B. Neither Adriamycin nor actinomycin-D displaces Tb3* from DNA. Biochem. Biophys. 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