Teacher:
Teacher: hello! Nov 6, 2011 7:01:09 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: hi mrs. reiman Nov 6, 2011 7:01:26 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: How are you all doing? Nov 6, 2011 7:01:31 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: good good, how about yourself Nov 6, 2011 7:01:44 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: good how are you? Nov 6, 2011 7:01:44 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Doing great, thanks. Are we just about ready for the test tomorrow? Nov 6, 2011
7:02:00 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: i guess so Nov 6, 2011 7:02:20 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: Hi Nov 6, 2011 7:02:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Mrs. Reiman, I was wondering if you could list all of the vocabulary words that
we need to know for tommorows test because our C & I only mentioned 5. Nov 6, 2011
7:02:26 PM CST
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Danielle:
Danielle: What are the vocab words we need to know for the test? Nov 6, 2011 7:02:34 PM
CST
Guna:
Guna: its the ones off the study guide Nov 6, 2011 7:02:47 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Maudlin, haughty, impudence, glowering, equity, and ? Nov 6, 2011 7:03:04 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: ill list them, one sec Nov 6, 2011 7:03:14 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Vocab: contempt, dissemble, lithe, maudlin, incredulity, equity, bemusing,
glowering, hubris, tone and impudence Nov 6, 2011 7:03:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Kendall! Nov 6, 2011 7:03:23 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I think one of the C&I students covered "haughty", which is a great word.
Sadly, there was no room for it on the test this round. Nov 6, 2011 7:03:44 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:03:56 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Lexie, your name is spelled wrong... Nov 6, 2011 7:04:18 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: so their is only going to be four words? Nov 6, 2011 7:04:19 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: There are 11 vocab words. Nov 6, 2011 7:04:34 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay, just making sure Nov 6, 2011 7:04:40 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: is the test in the same format as the other one? meaning their will be vocab,
multiple choice, one short anser, and one essay? Nov 6, 2011 7:04:51 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: only 11 haha viraat, that is my name Nov 6, 2011 7:04:53 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: yes, Hannah. The test is the same format. Nov 6, 2011 7:05:15 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: *there Nov 6, 2011 7:05:15 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: alright thank you Nov 6, 2011 7:05:24 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: what is the hardest part on the test? Nov 6, 2011 7:06:00 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: well i think that is an opinio Nov 6, 2011 7:06:12 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: *opinion Nov 6, 2011 7:06:20 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: 11 vocab, 14 multiple choice, a short answer asking you to address the TONE
in a passage, and an analysis question asking you to argue for whether Odysseus' final
actions are those of protection (and hence justified) or revenge (and unjustified) Nov 6,
2011 7:06:32 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Will the passage be provided? Nov 6, 2011 7:06:48 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay, thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:06:54 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: can we use anything on the test? Nov 6, 2011 7:07:00 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes, the passage is provided, in fact let me see if I can give you guys the line
numbers. Nov 6, 2011 7:07:01 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: his actions of revolting against the suitors right? Nov 6, 2011 7:07:07 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:07:08 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks... Nov 6, 2011 7:07:14 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:07:19 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: i think so hannah Nov 6, 2011 7:07:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: I agree with Kendall Nov 6, 2011 7:07:36 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I pull the passage from the very last episode-Penelope's test. Nov 6, 2011 7:07:38
PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:07:46 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Hannah-yes. Nov 6, 2011 7:07:48 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: what are we supposed to answer about that passage Nov 6, 2011 7:07:56 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: So running along the lines of reminiscent and sad? Nov 6, 2011 7:07:57 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Viraat-depends on how you support your answer...as always. :) Nov 6, 2011
7:08:22 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:08:28 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:08:37 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: what are the line numbers you are going to give us? Nov 6, 2011 7:08:43 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Kendall-just look at Penelope's test. That's what the SHort answer focuses
on. Nov 6, 2011 7:09:06 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: so are there going to be any lines provided? Nov 6, 2011 7:09:25 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes. I give you a specific passage. Nov 6, 2011 7:09:34 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: ok, gotcha Nov 6, 2011 7:09:41 PM CST
Danielle:
Danielle: what are some main themes we should focus on? Nov 6, 2011 7:09:45 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I would definitely say be able to identify some of the recurring themes of
loyalty. Nov 6, 2011 7:10:20 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Also be able to identify an epic simile Nov 6, 2011 7:10:40 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: As in? Nov 6, 2011 7:10:52 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: is this test long? Nov 6, 2011 7:10:52 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: so like the dog, and his son\wife Nov 6, 2011 7:10:56 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: didnt the dog symbolize loyalty? Nov 6, 2011 7:10:57 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:11:02 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: the test is approximately the same length-45 points. Nov 6, 2011 7:11:26 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes, Argus symbolizes loyalty. Nov 6, 2011 7:11:32 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes, his son and his wife. Nov 6, 2011 7:11:39 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: an epic simile was line 1370 to 1376 Nov 6, 2011 7:11:41 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: there are a couple more Nov 6, 2011 7:11:51 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: yah with a musician Nov 6, 2011 7:12:01 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: what? Nov 6, 2011 7:12:08 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Good examples of the epic similes. Nov 6, 2011 7:12:10 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Jaik! Nov 6, 2011 7:12:17 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Hey Jaik. Nov 6, 2011 7:12:23 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: yea and the pile of bodies like a pile of fish Nov 6, 2011 7:12:25 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: 1535-1539 Nov 6, 2011 7:12:46 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Also be able to identify actions that represent cleverness. Nov 6, 2011 7:12:47 PM
CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: what will the multiple choice questions focus on? Nov 6, 2011 7:13:02 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: like telemachus putting up the weapons? Nov 6, 2011 7:13:07 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Lexi-everything we are discussing right now comes from the multiple choice
questions. Nov 6, 2011 7:13:15 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: what should we be concentrating on for the test Nov 6, 2011 7:13:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: like being disguised as a beggar Nov 6, 2011 7:13:23 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: that was athena's intelligence, not odysseus's Nov 6, 2011 7:13:38 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: They are a mix of comprehension questions and questions tha task you to
analyze the themes and similes we are discussing. Nov 6, 2011 7:13:39 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: ok thanks, like un weaving the robe, and the bed test Nov 6, 2011 7:13:49 PM
CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Penelope was weaving a shroud Nov 6, 2011 7:14:08 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: do we have an extended response? Nov 6, 2011 7:14:09 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya. look at the beginning before you came in Nov 6, 2011 7:14:25 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: yes, good examples. Nov 6, 2011 7:14:33 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Katey-yes, your extended response is arguing for Odysseus' final actions
towards the suitors as acts of protection or revenge. Nov 6, 2011 7:14:53 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: You have to pick a position and support it with evidence from the text. Nov 6,
2011 7:15:13 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: okay so kind of like we talked about in class? Nov 6, 2011 7:15:15 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: McLain! Nov 6, 2011 7:15:16 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Dillon-yes, that's it iexactly. :) Nov 6, 2011 7:15:29 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: alright Nov 6, 2011 7:15:35 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: viraat, are you going to do that to everbody who joins Nov 6, 2011 7:15:37 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: what should we use as examples for not just actions? Nov 6, 2011 7:15:39 PM
CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Sure Nov 6, 2011 7:15:42 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: oh ok. thnx guna Nov 6, 2011 7:15:46 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: np Nov 6, 2011 7:15:51 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: whats up viraat and mrs reiman was killing it today in volleyballl Nov 6, 2011
7:15:53 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: What were some reasons we listed in class that he might be justified in his
actions? Nov 6, 2011 7:15:55 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Haha, McLain-thanks. :) Nov 6, 2011 7:16:06 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: haha welcome Nov 6, 2011 7:16:17 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: they tortured his wofe and threatened his son Nov 6, 2011 7:16:23 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Let's list as a group: what are some reasons you can think of that he was
justifeid-Lexi-good. Nov 6, 2011 7:16:30 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: wife Nov 6, 2011 7:16:32 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: and took over his house Nov 6, 2011 7:16:39 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: how the suitors took control over his empire while he was gone and tried to kill
his son Nov 6, 2011 7:16:45 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Now, if you use those examples in yoru response, be sure to explain the
context-be specific. Nov 6, 2011 7:16:53 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: argus wasn't treated well Nov 6, 2011 7:16:59 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Good, Guna, and he's King, right! Nov 6, 2011 7:17:07 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: so i know you said there would be a short answer about the tone of a passage
from the last episode; what are we supposed to say about the passage? like what it
means or what is it (epic simile, cleverness, etc.) Nov 6, 2011 7:17:10 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: he wanted the right thing to be done to them as they did to others Nov 6, 2011
7:17:14 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Now, what might be a few reasons his actions are those of revenge and
therefore NOT justified? Nov 6, 2011 7:17:35 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Tone is how the author thinks about a certain topic and the mood is what the
reader feels, right? Nov 6, 2011 7:17:51 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: the suitors said it was antinous' idea and it wasn't their fault Nov 6, 2011 7:17:58 PM
CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Abby, see Viraat Nov 6, 2011 7:17:59 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: he killed them all, and all of them didn't directly do anything to him of his
house Nov 6, 2011 7:18:04 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: He was to harsh the suitors didn't harm anyone they should have been
thrown in jail Nov 6, 2011 7:18:09 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Sorry...Viraat's definition of TONE. We also talked about the ending-whether it
was happy or not, just use more specific language. Nov 6, 2011 7:18:26 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: his pride and hubris/anger made him act out with vengence Nov 6, 2011 7:18:26 PM
CST
Viraat:
Viraat: He didn't consider both sides and took justice into his own hands Nov 6, 2011
7:18:31 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I have a list of TONE words posted in BLackboard, that might help. Nov 6, 2011
7:18:35 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I want you to identify the tone of Penelo[e Nov 6, 2011 7:18:41 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: did you already go over what the essay question is going to be like? Nov 6, 2011
7:18:44 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Sorry! Penelope's test and use examples to support it. Nov 6, 2011 7:18:55 PM
CST
Abby:
Abby: ok thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:18:58 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: what do you mean by identify the tone of penelope Nov 6, 2011 7:19:01 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: ? Nov 6, 2011 7:19:03 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Okay, sorry guys, back to Odysseus' actions. Nov 6, 2011 7:19:11 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: It was reminicient because she missed Odysseus and sad because she talked
about what could have been. Nov 6, 2011 7:19:18 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: so what penelope's emotions were? Nov 6, 2011 7:19:19 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: she means that their feelings, what we went over in class Nov 6, 2011 7:19:20 PM
CST
Guna:
Guna: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:19:29 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I see a lot of really great supporting examples: Antinous was the one primarily
responsible and he is already dead, the Suitors offer to repay the goods they have
consumed, (and let's not forget that the suitors are really his people, too). Nov 6, 2011
7:20:13 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: McLain-I was answering Abby's question, sorry for the confusion. Nov 6, 2011
7:20:28 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: okay thanks mrs reiman Nov 6, 2011 7:20:49 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: Penelope's feelings: how they were happy to be together but sad that they
missed out on the strongest part of their lives and couldn't 'grow old together'. Nov 6, 2011
7:20:50 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Ya Nov 6, 2011 7:21:03 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: its okay Nov 6, 2011 7:21:05 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Odysseus is acting with hubris-great reason, just prove it wiht an example
from what he does or says. You won' thave to give me a quote, but you will have to
explain what he does or says. Nov 6, 2011 7:21:12 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: how did the suitors react when Antinous was killed Nov 6, 2011 7:21:17 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Hubris= brashness? Nov 6, 2011 7:21:26 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: pride Nov 6, 2011 7:21:35 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher:
cher: Hubris=Overmuch pride. Nov 6, 2011 7:21:36 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:21:41 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: excessive pride can lead to brash behavior, but it is not quite the same
thing. Nov 6, 2011 7:21:51 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Ok Nov 6, 2011 7:21:55 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: the suitors tride to say that it was antinous who rowdied them up and they would
pay him back all they took Nov 6, 2011 7:22:11 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: how did the suitors react when Antinous was killed Nov 6, 2011 7:22:38 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: wat i said Nov 6, 2011 7:22:48 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Lexie, the suitors were shocked Nov 6, 2011 7:22:52 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes, they used Antinous as a scape goat...blaming the guy who wasn't there
to defend himself. Nov 6, 2011 7:22:57 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: not exactly shocked viraat, more like trying to escape the punishment Nov 6, 2011
7:23:39 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: they weren't too sad or anything though were they? Nov 6, 2011 7:23:57 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: no they were' Nov 6, 2011 7:24:05 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: nt Nov 6, 2011 7:24:07 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Lexi-also, at first one of the suitors claims that Odysseus has just killed the
"best in Ithaca" their "finest lad". And yes, then they quickly try to escape with as few
consequences as possible. Nov 6, 2011 7:24:08 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Eurymachus tried to plead with Odysseus at first and when he didn't budge, he
rallied the suitors. Nov 6, 2011 7:24:25 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: well it is better to go down fighting than just getting shot down Nov 6, 2011 7:24:57
PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: I would encourage you to have your time lines completed up through teh end
of the story. I think they will be helpful on your extended response. Nov 6, 2011 7:24:58 PM
CST
Kendall:
Kendall: what can we use on the test? Nov 6, 2011 7:25:10 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: we can use them and the werbquest right? Nov 6, 2011 7:25:16 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher:
cher: Your time lines and your webquests as long as you have them printed off. Nov
6, 2011 7:25:22 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: So i know earlier you mentioned an epic simile- do we just have to know one
when we see it or know one to write down for ther test Nov 6, 2011 7:25:26 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: In the multiple choice, will we have to fill in the blank with the correct word from a
word bank? Nov 6, 2011 7:25:32 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: You need to be able to identify an epic simile...a couple of them, actually.
:) Nov 6, 2011 7:25:45 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: in a paragraph? Nov 6, 2011 7:25:56 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: ok thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:25:57 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: An epic similie would be like the suitors=pile of fish? Nov 6, 2011 7:26:01 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: yep Nov 6, 2011 7:26:09 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Viraat-on the vocabulary section, yyes you will have a word bank. is that what
you mean? Nov 6, 2011 7:26:10 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Yes- thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:26:18 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Dillon-not sure what you mean in a paragraph? Nov 6, 2011 7:26:48 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: you said we would have to identify a couple epic similies. Did you mean give
examples from the text or identify them in a paragraph? Nov 6, 2011 7:27:28 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: oooh, I give you passages and I ask you to identify different literary devices in
those passages. so, yes, from a section of text. You won' thave to create an
example. Nov 6, 2011 7:28:05 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: What is another epic similie? Nov 6, 2011 7:28:15 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Okay, someone use impudence in a sentence. Nov 6, 2011 7:28:17 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: okay sounds good Nov 6, 2011 7:28:25 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: what other literary devices will we have to identify? Nov 6, 2011 7:28:31 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: the stringing of the bow to the expert musician Nov 6, 2011 7:28:39 PM CST
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Viraat:
iraat: Thanks Guna Nov 6, 2011 7:28:49 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: what does impudence mean again? Nov 6, 2011 7:29:01 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: symbols, metaphors, theme, Nov 6, 2011 7:29:10 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: impudence is the first word that comes to mind when I think of a killer Nov 6,
2011 7:29:11 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: lexi-why? Nov 6, 2011 7:29:20 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Wow Lexie Nov 6, 2011 7:29:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Gruesome Nov 6, 2011 7:29:28 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: He was given a detention for his act of impudence Nov 6, 2011 7:29:32 PM CST
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Matthew:
Matthew: Antinous was impudent when he hit Odsseus with a chair. Nov 6, 2011 7:29:46
PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: There you go Guna, you could learn something from him Lexie Nov 6, 2011 7:29:52
PM CST
Guna:
Guna: impudence-lack of modesty, shameless Nov 6, 2011 7:30:06 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: Because they don't really think about it or what they are doing to the person
they don't feel bad about it Nov 6, 2011 7:30:07 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Good! Nov 6, 2011 7:30:12 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: Jaida! Nov 6, 2011 7:30:17 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: someone who is shamelessly disrespectful of law, tradition, etiquette, etc. Nov
6, 2011 7:30:27 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: While it's a violent example, I think a killer qualifies as impudent. :) Nov 6, 2011
7:30:48 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: sort of like how the people of Uruk viewed gilgamesh was when he was a
child Nov 6, 2011 7:31:08 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: Well I am watching CSI hahah Nov 6, 2011 7:31:11 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Antinous is impudent, but the irony is that he accuses Odysseus of being
impudent. Nov 6, 2011 7:31:15 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: impudent=mean? Nov 6, 2011 7:31:16 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: haha Nov 6, 2011 7:31:18 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: will we have to know about the irony in the story. Nov 6, 2011 7:31:48 PM CST
Abby
Abby:
by: why did he accuse odysseus of being imprudentr? like for what reasons? Nov 6,
2011 7:31:50 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: matthew what is the irony in the story Nov 6, 2011 7:31:59 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: ? Nov 6, 2011 7:32:00 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: mean is too general. impudence is the quality of being shamelessly and
willfully disrespectful. generally some sort of honor, pride, rule or law is at stake. Nov 6,
2011 7:32:02 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Abby, go look at the bottom of page 902 and on to 903. Odysseus mutters
something negative about how Antinous is behaving and Antinous hears him. Nov 6, 2011
7:32:32 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: Antinous calling Odysseus impudent when he was very impudent Nov 6, 2011
7:32:34 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Would a timeline go along the lines of Phaeacians to Eumaeus to Telemachus to
Argus to Antinous to Penelope to Penelope's Challenge to slaughter to Penelope? Nov 6,
2011 7:32:36 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: odysseus said that he would not share his food with a beggar (himself) even
though antinous was feeding off of another person's property Nov 6, 2011 7:32:43 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: penelopes challlenge is after slaughter Nov 6, 2011 7:33:13 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: how was antinous impudent because he didnt care about anything ? but didnt
he care about getting penelope Nov 6, 2011 7:33:13 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Odysseus was the impudent one Nov 6, 2011 7:33:26 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: ok thanks Mrs. Reiman Nov 6, 2011 7:33:35 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: McLain-doesn't the fact that Antinous DOESN'T care about anything suggest
impudence? Nov 6, 2011 7:33:38 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: A person who is respectful cares about tradition, law and courtesy. Nov 6, 2011
7:33:57 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya, but he didn't care about the fact he was eating off of ODysseus's property
and belongings Nov 6, 2011 7:33:59 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: yes i was asking if thats how he is impudent. Nov 6, 2011 7:34:02 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Absolutely! Nov 6, 2011 7:34:09 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: okay thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:34:19 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: how many vocab words are there? is there a list on blackboard? Nov 6, 2011
7:34:35 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: Where does odysseus first meet Athena? Nov 6, 2011 7:34:40 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: 11 vocab words. Nov 6, 2011 7:34:42 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: so will we have to know about irony?? Nov 6, 2011 7:34:42 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:34:49 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: which words? Nov 6, 2011 7:34:55 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher:
her: Okay, this word is similar to impudence, but is used a bit differently:
contempt Nov 6, 2011 7:35:00 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: McLain, there are 11- she listed them before you came so you can see them in
the recordings afterwards Nov 6, 2011 7:35:07 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher:
er: Can someone copy and paste teh words again. Nov 6, 2011 7:35:15 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: what was the emotion when Odysseus and his son were reunited Nov 6, 2011
7:35:48 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: contempt, dissemble, lithe, maudlin, incredulity, equity, bemusing, glowering,
hubris, tone, and impudence Nov 6, 2011 7:35:57 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Matthew-it's always good to know about irony, but I won't be testing you on it
just yet. Now when we get to Hunger Games-you betcha.:) Nov 6, 2011 7:35:59 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: incredulity on his sons part Nov 6, 2011 7:36:10 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Yes! and there is another vocab word. Nov 6, 2011 7:36:23 PM CST
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Abby:
Abby: thats 11 words.. Nov 6, 2011 7:37:07 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: yep Nov 6, 2011 7:37:12 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Telemechus was shocked and unable to believe that his father had finally
returned. Nov 6, 2011 7:37:27 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Odysseus then told him to man up and accept it Nov 6, 2011 7:37:42 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: was telemachus happy at all or more sad? Nov 6, 2011 7:37:48 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: emotionally man up Nov 6, 2011 7:37:51 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: i think he was happy because he was immediately ready to help him fight the
suitors Nov 6, 2011 7:38:02 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya, happy Nov 6, 2011 7:38:14 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: He was disbelieving and incredulous at first but then he was happy Nov 6, 2011
7:38:14 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: yup Nov 6, 2011 7:38:19 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Good. telemechus did "throw his arms around this arvel of a father" and begin
to weep. Nov 6, 2011 7:38:21 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: He seems pretty happy. Nov 6, 2011 7:38:25 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: arvel=? Nov 6, 2011 7:38:31 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher: Sorry, that was "marvel of a father" Nov 6, 2011 7:38:33 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:38:36 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Lucas? Nov 6, 2011 7:38:46 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: lucas! Nov 6, 2011 7:38:46 PM CST
Viraat
Viraat:
at: Yay Nov 6, 2011 7:38:49 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: hi Nov 6, 2011 7:38:56 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Oh, and in fact, there is an epic simile that follows: Nov 6, 2011 7:38:56 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: About birds Nov 6, 2011 7:39:15 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: where and when does addyseus first encounter Athena? Nov 6, 2011 7:39:28
PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: "Salt tears rose from the wells of longing in both men, and cries burst from
both as keen adn fluttering as those of the great taloned hawk, whose nestlings farmers
take before they fly. Nov 6, 2011 7:39:37 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: so an epic simile is just like a regular simile but in an epic right? Nov 6, 2011 7:39:53
PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: do we need to know arvel, viraat? Nov 6, 2011 7:39:55 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: marvel Nov 6, 2011 7:40:04 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: that was a error Nov 6, 2011 7:40:04 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Dillon-no, no, no, it was my typo! Nov 6, 2011 7:40:10 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: lol Nov 6, 2011 7:40:14 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: lol Nov 6, 2011 7:40:18 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Abby, hahahaha, yes. epic in that it usually continues for a few lines. :) Nov 6,
2011 7:40:29 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Now I get it... Nov 6, 2011 7:40:44 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: oh ok thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:40:46 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: What can we use on the test, and/or was it asked earlier Nov 6, 2011 7:40:50 PM
CST
Dillon:
Dillon: haha my bad Nov 6, 2011 7:40:51 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: athena has always watched over odysseus, he first officially meets her when she
conceals him Nov 6, 2011 7:41:00 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: We can use a timeline Nov 6, 2011 7:41:02 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: webqest and timeline Nov 6, 2011 7:41:07 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Webquest- the one that we were allowed to use on the first test? Nov 6, 2011
7:41:28 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:41:30 PM CST
Alexandira:
Alexandira: what does tone mean? Nov 6, 2011 7:41:33 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: what will we need the webquest for? Nov 6, 2011 7:41:39 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya the hero one Nov 6, 2011 7:41:39 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: just to now who the people war Nov 6, 2011 7:41:50 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Hey, sorry I'm a little late. So what vocab terms do we need to know? Nov 6, 2011
7:41:54 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: *are Nov 6, 2011 7:41:54 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Tone vs. Mood=? Nov 6, 2011 7:41:55 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Look above, Erin Nov 6, 2011 7:42:05 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: I typed them in somewhere Nov 6, 2011 7:42:21 PM CST
Teacher:
eacher: yes. Tone is the style or manner of expression in speech or writing. Nov 6, 2011
7:42:26 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: from the author? Nov 6, 2011 7:42:38 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: the trick is that with speech we have all sorts of clues to help us figure out
tone. Nov 6, 2011 7:42:40 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: can we write anything on the timeline like definitions to the vocab and stuff? Nov
6, 2011 7:42:58 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: We have nonverbals: voice pitch and rate, eye contact, facial expressoins,
etc. Nov 6, 2011 7:43:00 PM CST
Viraat
Viraat: Is the tone what the author is trying to convey? Nov 6, 2011 7:43:03 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: McLain-NO! Nov 6, 2011 7:43:06 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: darn it Nov 6, 2011 7:43:10 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: nice try Nov 6, 2011 7:43:21 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: you almost got away Nov 6, 2011 7:43:21 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: nice try...... Nov 6, 2011 7:43:23 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: haha mclain Nov 6, 2011 7:43:24 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: so close Nov 6, 2011 7:43:27 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: With writing, we only have the word choice of the author to convey tone. Nov 6,
2011 7:43:31 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: i see Nov 6, 2011 7:43:38 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Then the mood is what Nov 6, 2011 7:43:43 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: so tone is in the eye of the beholder??? Nov 6, 2011 7:44:00 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: It is confusing, but keep tone separate from mood. Mood really has to do with
the reader's resposne. Tone is created by the author. Nov 6, 2011 7:44:02 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:44:08 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: That helped a lot Nov 6, 2011 7:44:14 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:44:17 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: is the tone how the author wants the reader to feel about whats going on? Nov 6,
2011 7:44:46 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:44:52 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:44:55 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Not quite matthew-go look at Penelope's test. The narrator (and Homer)
create a very specific TONE to end this story of separation and begin Penelope's and
Odysseus' reunion Nov 6, 2011 7:44:55 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: is the author in this story biased at all?? Nov 6, 2011 7:45:00 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: I don't see the vocab words. Could someone give me them? Nov 6, 2011 7:45:03 PM
CST
McLain:
McLain: scroll up a little Nov 6, 2011 7:45:10 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Every author is, to a point Nov 6, 2011 7:45:17 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: contempt, dissemble, lithe, maudlin, incredulity, equity, bemusing, glowering,
hubris, tone, and impudence Nov 6, 2011 7:45:36 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: 15 minutes left..... Nov 6, 2011 7:45:41 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: McLain-I'm going to shy away from that question. We are going to talk about
bias with our next two texts. Nov 6, 2011 7:45:49 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: did you copy and past Guna? Nov 6, 2011 7:45:50 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: yup Nov 6, 2011 7:45:55 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: thought so Nov 6, 2011 7:46:04 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: so is tone how the author wants the reader to feel about whats going on? Nov 6,
2011 7:46:13 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: yes Nov 6, 2011 7:46:19 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:46:19 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:46:25 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: okay biased stories are always the most interesting (people magazine stuff like
that) Nov 6, 2011 7:46:25 PM CST
Katherine:
Katherine: yes Nov 6, 2011 7:46:27 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher: We want to analyze bias when we are examining issues of credibility in
situations where somoen is deliberately trying to persuade someone to a certain belief
or action. Nov 6, 2011 7:46:31 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: oaky Nov 6, 2011 7:46:41 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: No Lucas Nov 6, 2011 7:46:46 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Tone is the emotion the author creates in the scene of the text. Nov 6, 2011
7:46:46 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: And Lucas, she is the admin Nov 6, 2011 7:47:00 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: o ya Nov 6, 2011 7:47:11 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: alright Nov 6, 2011 7:47:13 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: ik that Nov 6, 2011 7:47:19 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: .....lol Nov 6, 2011 7:47:24 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Will the recording for this chat be available right after we finish? Nov 6, 2011 7:48:02
PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: yes, I can post it afterwards. Nov 6, 2011 7:48:14 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: THANKS Nov 6, 2011 7:48:21 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: the recordings form the last two years are there Nov 6, 2011 7:48:22 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: alright thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:48:25 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: to use on the test? lol jk Nov 6, 2011 7:48:26 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Erin would like to know what the vocabulary words are Nov 6, 2011 7:48:31 PM
CST
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Guna:
Guna: contempt, dissemble, lithe, maudlin, incredulity, equity, bemusing, glowering,
hubris, tone, and impudence Nov 6, 2011 7:48:37 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Rissa: I already asked Nov 6, 2011 7:48:41 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: No, not for the test Nov 6, 2011 7:48:41 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Can you guys access the recordings? That's awesome. I always put them in a
word doc. Nov 6, 2011 7:48:41 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: for the thrid time Nov 6, 2011 7:48:44 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Marissa: i already got them Nov 6, 2011 7:48:57 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: haha guna... Nov 6, 2011 7:48:57 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: patience...as people come into the chat session they cannot see the
discussion that came before. Nov 6, 2011 7:49:12 PM CST
Viraat
Viraat:
raat: We can access them if we come back to the chat and hit the drop down arrow
and choose recordings Nov 6, 2011 7:49:13 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: nice. Nov 6, 2011 7:49:21 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: if you click on the arrow by the chat room and click on recordings Nov 6, 2011
7:49:24 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: other questions about the test? We're down to ten minutes. Nov 6, 2011 7:49:54
PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: NOOOO Nov 6, 2011 7:50:00 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: aside from vocab and our opinion on was killing the suitors revenge or justice,
what do we need to know? Nov 6, 2011 7:50:00 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: too little time Nov 6, 2011 7:50:06 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: so much to do Nov 6, 2011 7:50:09 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Can we use anything on the test? Nov 6, 2011 7:50:44 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Dillon, be able to identify epic similes, and be able to answer analytical
questions about themes such as cleverness, loyalty, heroism, etc. Nov 6, 2011 7:50:46 PM
CST
Guna:
Guna: is their any other info about the opinions on the extendwed response Nov 6, 2011
7:50:52 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Marissa- webquest and timeline Nov 6, 2011 7:50:58 PM CST
Danielle:
Danielle: is there only one word that is the tone for penelope's test or are there several
words to describe the tone? Nov 6, 2011 7:50:58 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: will do Nov 6, 2011 7:50:59 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Thanks Viraat! Nov 6, 2011 7:51:15 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Also be able to identify and analyze the TONE of a passage from the episode
of "Penelope's test" Nov 6, 2011 7:51:17 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Danielle- reminicient, sad, etc. Nov 6, 2011 7:51:33 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: they are happy to be reunited, they are sad to have missed out on the strong
time of their lives and 'grow old together' Nov 6, 2011 7:51:42 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: There is more than one word to describe the tone, but you only have to argue
for one dominant tone. But i fyou mean there are several correct answers, then yes.
You just have to identify an actual tone and support your analysis. Nov 6, 2011 7:51:57 PM
CST
Dillon:
Dillon: like how the characters feel? Nov 6, 2011 7:51:59 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: Do you think this test was harder than the last. I havent had any time to study all
weekend because of theater. Nov 6, 2011 7:52:03 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Is there a study guide? I tried looking on BB today and I didn't see one. Nov 6, 2011
7:52:04 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: This is the study guide Nov 6, 2011 7:52:15 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: the chat Nov 6, 2011 7:52:19 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: ya Nov 6, 2011 7:52:20 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: The unit handout is posted in blackboard. It is the first or second document in
our Odyssey shell. Nov 6, 2011 7:52:28 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: oh Nov 6, 2011 7:52:34 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: what is antigone Nov 6, 2011 7:52:46 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: we got one a while back that was for this and lhe last test combined Nov 6, 2011
7:52:48 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: We don't need to know about Antingone Nov 6, 2011 7:52:59 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Antigone* Nov 6, 2011 7:53:05 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Dillon-the characters feelings is a startign place for determining tone, but it is
not the same as tone. Tone can be formal, informal, reminiscent, regretful, etc. Nov 6,
2011 7:53:08 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: i now, im just wonderin Nov 6, 2011 7:53:10 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: No, no, Antigone is our next text and it is one of my FAVORITES! Nov 6, 2011
7:53:21 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: :) Nov 6, 2011 7:53:23 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Cool Nov 6, 2011 7:53:26 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay sweet Nov 6, 2011 7:53:30 PM CST
Viraat:
iraat: She's excited Nov 6, 2011 7:53:33 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: i know the multiple choice going to be identifing themes, epic similes, etc. what
else will it be asking? Nov 6, 2011 7:53:37 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: what is tone again? im really slow tonight Nov 6, 2011 7:53:52 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: prolly character changes, hubris Nov 6, 2011 7:53:56 PM CST
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Teacher:
Teacher: Abby-the questions will also be asking comprehension/plot line questions. Nov
6, 2011 7:54:07 PM CST
Viraat
Viraat:
raat: Tone is what the author thinks about a topic Nov 6, 2011 7:54:09 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: tone is what the author uses to convey a message Nov 6, 2011 7:54:09 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: ok thanks Nov 6, 2011 7:54:16 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: how is is conveyed, for an example? Nov 6, 2011 7:54:34 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Tone is the style or manner of expression in speech or writing. We're focused
n writing right now. Nov 6, 2011 7:54:35 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: It is primarily conveyed through word choice in a story. Nov 6, 2011 7:54:50 PM
CST
Viraat:
iraat: Hannah! Nov 6, 2011 7:54:53 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: What are the essay questions going to be about? Nov 6, 2011 7:55:02 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Think about tone in a scary movie-the music carries a lot of the "tone". Nov 6,
2011 7:55:04 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: Did you forget about the time switch? Nov 6, 2011 7:55:15 PM CST
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Guna:
Guna: prolly Nov 6, 2011 7:55:22 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: In a text, it's the word choice. So, we used the example of the Sirens song.
What kind of a "tone" is created in the Siren's song? Nov 6, 2011 7:55:30 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: A dangerous and sad one Nov 6, 2011 7:55:41 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Why? Nov 6, 2011 7:55:55 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Also one of temptation Nov 6, 2011 7:55:56 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: Odysseus longing for home and his long jounrney Nov 6, 2011 7:55:56 PM CST
Hannah:
Hannah: Viraat...no. I just got back from a a swim meet. Nov 6, 2011 7:55:59 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: What lines do you use to draw that conclusion? Nov 6, 2011 7:56:01 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: OH Nov 6, 2011 7:56:05 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Is there going to be another summary question? How many points is it going to be
out of, like the entire test I mean? Nov 6, 2011 7:56:29 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: 730-745 Nov 6, 2011 7:56:48 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: How many questions are there, approximately? Nov 6, 2011 7:56:54 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: 45 points for the whole test Nov 6, 2011 7:57:02 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: About as many as the last test Nov 6, 2011 7:57:05 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: No summary question, though in order to answer the extended response you
wil lhave to do enough "summarizing" to provide context for your answer, but it's not
strictly a summary. Nov 6, 2011 7:57:06 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Thanks! Nov 6, 2011 7:57:29 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: OH NO- 3 minutes left Nov 6, 2011 7:57:34 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Ok thanks I was stressing out a little. Nov 6, 2011 7:57:38 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Oh snap Nov 6, 2011 7:57:41 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: what was that question again? Nov 6, 2011 7:57:44 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Guna-okay, but you would have to give me some specific words or phrases
that create the tone of temptation or longing... Nov 6, 2011 7:57:47 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: you can't just give me line numbers. :) Nov 6, 2011 7:57:56 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: will we need to give our opinion about whether odysseus is still hubris at the end
or not? Or is that a part of explaining if odysseus' actions at the end are justifiable (sp?)
or revenge? Nov 6, 2011 7:58:04 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: So, what literary elements are we going to have to know other than tone and
mood? Nov 6, 2011 7:58:09 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: okay Nov 6, 2011 7:58:12 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: What does "Hubris" mean again? Nov 6, 2011 7:58:17 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: overmush pride Nov 6, 2011 7:58:24 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Hubris= too much pride Nov 6, 2011 7:58:27 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Thats what I thought, thank you! Nov 6, 2011 7:58:35 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: tone, mood, theme, symbol, metphor, epic simile Nov 6, 2011 7:58:39 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: *That's Nov 6, 2011 7:58:57 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Any final questions? Nov 6, 2011 7:59:08 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Thanks for your time! Nov 6, 2011 7:59:15 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: No problem! Nov 6, 2011 7:59:19 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Thank you for your help! Nov 6, 2011 7:59:21 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Is it hard? Nov 6, 2011 7:59:23 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: what was the answer to dillons question? Nov 6, 2011 7:59:30 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: is this fine for the song "all feats on that great field In the long warfare, dark days
the bright gods willed. wounds wou bore there Nov 6, 2011 7:59:30 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: That's in the eyes of the beholder Nov 6, 2011 7:59:37 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Erin Nov 6, 2011 7:59:44 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: You will all be fine. Wait, what was Dillon's question? Nov 6, 2011 7:59:46 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: Night, good luck everyone, and thanks! Nov 6, 2011 7:59:48 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: THANKS Nov 6, 2011 7:59:53 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: thank you Nov 6, 2011 7:59:59 PM CST
Kendall:
Kendall: bye bye Nov 6, 2011 8:00:01 PM CST
Matthew:
Matthew: thanks for your time Mrs. Reiman Nov 6, 2011 8:00:01 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: same Nov 6, 2011 8:00:05 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: ya Nov 6, 2011 8:00:09 PM CST
McLain:
McLain: thanks Nov 6, 2011 8:00:10 PM CST
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Viraat:
Viraat: ya Nov 6, 2011 8:00:11 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Thanks Mrs. Reiman! Nov 6, 2011 8:00:12 PM CST
[K
Kendall left the session] Nov 6, 2011 8:00:19 PM CST
[McLain
McLain left the session] Nov 6, 2011 8:00:22 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: Gabby, did you not know about the time change? Nov 6, 2011 8:00:25 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Ah, iyour final extended response (the 15 point one) is about arguing whether
Odysseus' final actions are those of revenge (and unjustified) or protection (and
therefore justified). Nov 6, 2011 8:00:31 PM CST
Imani
Imani:
ni: ooo awk thought this started at 8... Nov 6, 2011 8:00:40 PM CST
Erin:
Erin: Thank you so much for youur time Ms. Reiman. See everyone tomorrow!!! :) Nov 6,
2011 8:00:44 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: and short response is ? Nov 6, 2011 8:00:48 PM CST
Elizabeth:
Elizabeth: wow i got on to late, awesome Nov 6, 2011 8:00:56 PM CST
Abby:
Abby: ok thanks mrs. reiman Nov 6, 2011 8:00:56 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: penelopes test tone Nov 6, 2011 8:00:59 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: okay. yes what Nov 6, 2011 8:00:59 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: is the short response? Nov 6, 2011 8:01:06 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: the tone of penelopes test Nov 6, 2011 8:01:14 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Liz-the whole recording is still available. Right clikc on the arrow adn you can
read our whole discussion. Nov 6, 2011 8:01:16 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: she's going to kick us out... Nov 6, 2011 8:01:23 PM CST
[Danielle
Danielle left the session] Nov 6, 2011 8:01:26 PM CST
Teacher
Teacher: THe short response is about identifying the tone in Penelope's test. Nov 6, 2011
8:01:26 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: thanks Nov 6, 2011 8:01:30 PM CST
Marissa:
Marissa: Which arrow? Nov 6, 2011 8:01:35 PM CST
Teacher:
Teacher: Good night all! See you tomorrow! Nov 6, 2011 8:01:36 PM CST
Dillon:
Dillon: okay Nov 6, 2011 8:01:37 PM CST
Viraat:
Viraat: thanks Nov 6, 2011 8:01:42 PM CST
Guna:
Guna: the down arrow Nov 6, 2011 8:01:43 PM CST
Lucas:
Lucas: what #'s? Nov 6, 2011 8:01:44 PM CST