242 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR A.J.C.P. • August 1981 What's an RDW? To the Editor:—In their interesting article on red cell distribution, Hammersley and colleagues 5 leave three questions unresolved. First, do hemoglobins S-A and C-A refer strictly to S- or C- trait, conventionally designated AS or AC 6 or do these groups include double heterozygotes for S or C and for /3 + -thalassemia? Did any of these patients have concurrent athalassemia, or iron, folate, or vitamin B12 deficiency? Were any of these patients actually SS or AS patients given AA blood, or AA patients given AS or AC blood? Second, how many patients with the same abnormal hemoglobin electrophoresis did not have abnormal RDW (red cell distribution width)? Third, what was the RDW measurement in normal subjects? We have found that the RDW as measured in the Coulter Counter Model S-Plus in 1980 had a duplicate error range of 1.1 U 2 ; the precision trial of Hammersley and colleagues 5 showed 2 SD = 0.7 U. Our studies with 683 normal subjects showed RDW of 7 . 9 12.3 U: the higher values included no subjects with AS or AC, while there were three with AS who had RDW < 11.5 U. Therefore, RDW < 12.5 U should be considered ambiguous for normal versus abnormal: this range would include 42 of the 111 with SA and 16 of the 63 with CA. The RDW as measured by the Coulter Counter S-Plus II is expected to have greater precision. 4 Our smaller groups with only S- or C- trait had heterogeneity of red cell size indistinguishable from AA normals, while subjects with SS, SC, and S-thalassemia did have increased red cell volume heterogeneity: in hemoglobinopathies, anisocytosis seems to correlate with anemia.' In contrast, patients with iron, folate, or vitamin B 12 deficiency all have increased heterogeneity of red cell volume. Such anisocytosis is an effective discriminant of iron deficiency vs heterozygous thalassemia in subjects with low mean cell volume. 3 Even allowing for probable duplicate samples of the same patient, it seems likely that among the patients providing 40,850 blood specimens, far more had AS or AC than the 174 found by the 800 electrophoreses prompted by high RDW. The patients with SA or CA and high RDW may include: the high-side distributional tail of RDW among a far greater number of patients with S- or C- trait; transfused patients; patients with the trait and nutritional deficiency; and those doubly heterozygous for S or C and for aor /3+-thalassemia (the last would have slight anemia and therefore be expected to have slight anisocytosis). The authors appropriately caution that high RDW should not be the primary screen for hemoglobinopathy. 5 Only a small fraction of AS or AC patients would be detected, with very poor sensitivity. Nutritional deficiency or transfusion, the most common causes of anisocytosis, would have to be ruled out 1 before heterozygous hemoglobinopathy can be accepted as the cause of anisocytosis; therefore, specificity of high RDW for hemoglobinopathy also would be poor. AS and AC could not reliably be inferred from the peripheral blood film. Hemoglobins SS, SC, CC, and S-j8°-thalassemia are associated with anisocytosis and do have abnormal blood films suggesting the diagnosis. However, such patients were only 9% of all with high RDW. Therefore, not only is heterozygous hemoglobinopathy unlikely to usefully correlate with high RDW, but hemoglobin electrophoresis probably should be deferred (in the absence of a suggestive smear) until likelier causes of the high RDW had been evaluated. greater number had concurrent folate deficiency. As far as we could ascertain, none of these patients had athalassemia or vitamin B 12 deficiency. Some of the S-S and S-C patients were given A-A blood. Our S-S and S-C ladies from the obstetrics department were erythrocytopheresed and exchange transfused periodically during their pregnancies to enable them to deliver full-term healthy babies. These ladies had hemoglobin electrophoreses to monitor the amount of A-A blood remaining as they progressed through their pregnancies and the values would change each time. As far as we know, no A-A patients were transfused with A-S or A-C blood during the time of this study. We do know that it has happened occasionally. DAVID BESSMAN^ M.D. Department of Medicine (HematologyOncology) University of Texas Medical Branch Galveston, Texas References 1. Bessman JD: Heterogeneity of red cell volume: Quantitation, clinical correlation, and possible mechanisms. John Hopkins Med J 146:226-230, 1980 2. Bessman JD: Evaluation of whole blood platelet counts and particle sizing. Am J Clin Path 74:257-262, 1980 3. Bessman JD, Feinstein DI: Quantitative anisocytosis as a discriminant between iron deficiency and thalassemia minor. Blood 53:288-294, 1979 4. Coulter Electronics, Inc, Coulter Counter* Model S-Plus II Operator's Reference Manual; Hialeah, Florida, Coulter Electronics, 1980 5. Hammersley M, King RV, Sullivant RE, et al: High erythrocyte distribution values and probabilities of hemoglobinopathies. Am J Clin Pathol 75:370-372, 1981 6. McCurdy PR: Sickle cell trait. N Eng J Med 282:1158, 1970 The Authors' Reply In his interesting comments on our article on red cell distribution, Dr. Bessman poses several questions. Hemoglobin SA and CA do refer strictly to S- or C- trait. We found two patients doubly heterozygous for sickle trait and /3-thalassemia minor which we included in our paper. Many of these patients had concurrent iron deficiency anemia and an even Vol. 76 • No. 2 We have no way of knowing how many patients with normal RDW's had abnormal electrophoreses, as our study only included patients with high RDW's (over 12.0). During this time, we had two people, one a secretary with A-S and a normal RDW, the other a medical technology student with A-C and a normal RDW. The student with A-C had her fiance's LETTERS TO THE EDITOR hemoglobin electrophoresed and happily he was A-A. The RDW measurement in normal subjects were: Mean 10.6 with a 243 only another tool to add to our incidental detection of hemoglobinopathies. MARY W. HAMMERSLEY, MT(ASCP) Standard Deviation of 1.6 As we stated, this is not a primary method of detecting hemoglobinopathies, P A U L I. Liu, M.D., PH.D. Department of Laboratory Medicine Medical University of South Carolina Charleston, South Carolina Fluorescent Nuclear Antibodies To the Editor:—Your article "A comparison of the sensitivities and specificities of different substrates for the fluorescent antinuclear antibody test" by F. Kozin, M. Fowler, and S. M. Koethe (Am J Clin Pathol 74:785-790, 1980) was of considerable interest to us as it contrasts with our own experience, some of which has been previously published. 3 Referral to the data indicates a relatively minor difference in frozen mouse liver, rat liver, and the human epithelial cell line as supplied by ElectroNucleonics. Our comparative studies between frozen rat liver and the human epithelial cell line supplied by ElectroNucleonics, have shown that the human epithelial cell line is more sensitive than frozen rat liver in the fluorescent antinuclear antibody test (FANA) utilizing the identical conjugate on both substrates. We used sera from six patients with collagen vascular diseases and tested them simultaneously on both substrates. These sera were supplied by Dr. Thomas K. Burnham and had been previously characterized by pattern. Three observers viewed the slides and the titers shown represent a consensus. More importantly, the human epithelial cell line was used as the substrate to detect antinuclear antibodies in 150 patients with various collagen vascular diseases plus 150 age and sex-matched controls. We found that 22% of normals had positive FANA's if serum was diluted 1:20 as is suggested in the kit Pattern Coarsely speckled Coarsely speckled Nucleolar Peripheral Homogeneous Finely speckled Frozen Rat Liver Human Epithelial Cell Line 1:1280 1:10240 1:80 1:2650 1:640 Neg at 1:20 1:320 1:10240 1:640 1:5120 Neg at 1:20 1:640 supplied by Electro-Nucleonics, whereas only 4% were positive at serum dilutions of 1:80 or greater. All except one of 50 SLE patients were positive at 1:80 or greater. This one patient was also negative at 1:20 but had previously had a positive FANA on another serum specimen. Thus the reports that 2% of normal individuals have positive FANA's on frozen mouse or rat liver substrates at serum titers of only 1:42 would also indicate the increased sensitivity of the human epithelial cell line of antinuclear antibodies. Our observations are also in line with those presented by Hahon and colleagues who showed rat liver was less sensitive than all of eight different cultured cell lines. 1 It has also been our experience as discussed in the article by Kozin and associates that the ease of interpreting patterns is greater when utilizing the human epithelial cell line, especially for less experienced medical technologists. It is clear physicians must be careful in interpreting low titer positives on any substrate. Regardless of which substrate they choose, it is extremely important for each laboratory doing FANA's to establish it's own meaningful titers for normal individuals (who may have low levels of antinuclear antibody) as well as for diseased patients. MARY F. LIPSCOMB, M.D. Department of Pathology University of Texas, Southwestern Medical School JAMES N. G I L L I A M , M.D. Chairman, Dermatology University of Texas, Southwestern Medical School A N D R E W CHUBICK, M.D. Medical Director Baylor Arthritis Center Dallas, Texas References 1. Hahon N, Eckert HL, Stewart J: Evaluation of cellular substrates for antinuclear antibody determinations. J Clin Micro 2:42, 1975 2. Nakamura RM, Immunopathology clinical laboratory concepts and methods, Little, Brown and Company, cl974, p 261 3. Prystowsky S, Gilliam JN: Antinuclear antibody studies in chronic discord lupus erythematosus. Arch Dermatol 113:183, 1977 Anti-Kell To the Editor:—The recent article by Molthan and Strohm, 4 raised an interesting question regarding the possible inability of LISS procedures to detect an IgG anti-Kell alloantibody. However, before this report can be seriously considered, there are some points which need clarification. The authors did not describe the quality control performed on the original LISS solution either by the hospital's transfusion service or by the author's laboratory. The pH, temperature, and ionic strength of the LISS solution significantly affects the rate of the anti-
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