Mørkeskye #13 – a final gathering under black clouds… blast and hope we gave some as well! The greatest surprise besides the presentation of a new track was surely the Isengard cover version of »Vinterskugge« your personal fave from those two albums? What does Isengard's music mean to you – it's quite boorish and eccentric, isn't it? Jonas: Yeah that's right, we cover the Isengard song »Vinterskugge« because of the reason it's a big influence and a great song. That's the main reason. We simply pay tribute to one of our sources of inspiration. Might be that we will change it to something else later on as we've done it for quite some time now. This song is certainly one of my personal Isengard faves and I admit that some of the songs are as you say quite boring but it has a lot of nostalgia to it and it's a milestone within the genre. Else I think »Thornspawn Chalice« and »Total Death« on »Høstmørke« kick some serious as! I remember picking »Vinterskugge« up whence it got out and it started quite a stir within the scene back then but I liked it right away. So these albums has been say important (big word maybe) for us more or less as individuals as well as it has coloured parts of the King of Asgard sound. It took pretty long time to get the lyric but we hooked up Fenriz and got his permission as well as the lyric and Vinterskugge v/s King of Asgard was a fact. Guess our common thing is that we are both blending metal with folkish tunes. Maybe I'm mistaken, but is there some »Isengard-spirit« as well in the beginning of »Nordvegr« and in »Up On The Mountain«? Jonas: For sure. As I said before it's been with us as individuals for many years and now as we write this kind of music, blending folkish tunes with blackened metal it reveals and manifests in our creations. Not too obvious though, but it's there and it is one of our inspirational sources. Guess it shows more or less in the two songs you mentioned. So you're not mistaking and it is not either something we try to hide, it is rather something we raise to the skies. We create music that we ourselves like listening to and thus our influences at times get obvious and that might be just to give them credit really. To say, bring others what they might have given us so that the old masters get the attention they're/were worth. »Never give up the old ways!« One of the strongest surprises on last year's edition of Ragnarök Festival was the gig of King Of Asgard from Sweden who are first of all known as follow-up of the almost legendary Mithotyn and second for their more than solid and heavy debut album »Fi'mbulvintr« which unfortunately wasn't discovered by that many listeners so far – at least if you consider the status of Mithotyn back in the days and the topical popularity of folk and viking metal. But instead of whining about the missing link between quality and public success, we should now really focus on the new long player, namely »...to North« which is nothing but a forceful fist in the face of superficial wannabe-folk-metal-morons. Again the Swedes deliver passionately crafted compositions with many neck-breaking riffs, beautifully arranged strong melodies and dramatic structures that pale other bands which might be more popular but surely not that heavily down with their feet to the frostbitten earth. After Ragnarök #9 I felt it was my duty to check the new album out – and what shall I write? Just listen yourself, for example to killer tracks like the grim & majestic Bathorytribute »Up On The Mountain«, the ancient-sounding »Gap Of Ginnungs« or the irresistibly crushing »Nordvegr« with its powerful chorus... »Never give up the old ways!« Old ugly troll that I am, I will for sure follow this wise slogan and it was of course a pleasure to set sails to travel to North to meet bass player Jonas Albrektsson and guitar player and vocalist Karl Beckman who were not only kind enough to answer my questions but who even made an exclusive photo shoot for this story – tack så mycket, guys! I must say I was truly impressed by your powerful performance on the Ragnarök Festival and I think with such a strong gig you surely deserve a better place in the billing. Were you satisfied with the concert and the surrounding circumstances? Jonas: First of all thanks and good to hear you appreciated our gig! We really had a blast at the Ragnarök Festival and met a lot of cool people. Actually we were a bit stressed out as our equipment got lost at the airport customs and we had to wait around for too long, had to leave and hit the road. Just as we did our guitars/gear turned up, we went back and picked it up and drove like hell to the festival. Once there we went right up on stage and didn't have the time for a proper soundcheck but still some. So during those circumstances things went really well I suppose. It was a lot of fun and great playing that venue as well as the crowd was great. We played Friday and stayed out the whole festival, partying and hanged around. I think the festival was great and everything worked out fine and the crew was all out great. So as I said we had a -8- By the way: in »Wrath Of The Gods« you paid obvious tribute to Iron Maiden – is this a band that you all cherish? Jonas: I think Iron Maiden is one of all those bands we all grew up to and still has some feeling or underlying memories of. So might be that it blends our songs to some extent as you say and so forth but not intentionally. I don't think anyone of us is listening to Iron Maiden very much nowadays though but we've all been into it. I have memories of me and Karl as kids were listening to »Killers« and »The Number Of The Beast« at the same time trying to paint the covers of the two albums, ha-ha. See... what we have become! So we might not cherish, but it sure had impact on us! A question which came up at the festival area: don't you have some merch, especially with such a nice artwork on your debut album? Not only me would have loved to buy a shirt... Jonas: I know and it's a pity. We have shirts with our emblem on but due to some circumstances we made the decision not to put them up at the merchstand. Anyway, you're not the first one asking, be sure. Hopefully we'll get it done as soon as possible; either it'll be made by us or by Metal Blade. It would be really cool to have printed on shirts for sure as the artwork itself is fantastic, no doubts about that. I think there will be shirts made for the upcoming album though so hope fully on the firstborn later on as well. Keep checking our channels for info. Let's turn towards the new album: a lot positive can be said about »To North« but Mørkeskye #13 – a final gathering under black clouds… we all know the phrases of natural progression, more variety and sharpened focus more than well, so I would like to discuss some details. I think the trump card is the original metal spirit in form of truly irresistible riffs which force you to bang your head and which are over the top! Was it your aim to expand the classic metal approach in order to kill the audience, especially on gigs? Jonas: Ha-ha, thanks for the kind and right on spot-words! We don't really plan that much when writing the basics of a song. It is when we arrange and put things together the 'magic' happens. We work close to each other, me and Karl, turning and twisting to get where a song is finished. For example, the first song we wrote for the »...to North« album was the last one finished. It is »The Nine Worlds Burn« which we had a struggle with but in the end it turned out to be one of the most powerful songs. Our aim is actually as said to create things we like ourselves and the structures we work upon is often hard-hitting and straight forward which along with powerfully arranged vocal performance make the songs very strong. It may sound simple but it is countless of hours laid behind almost every song. We are selfcritical and always try our very best to please both ourselves as well as our fans and listeners. Sure there are lots of classic metal shining through on this record I suppose and I guess that's just a coincidence and that it is the way it turns when trying to get to the straight powerful form we're playing. So it is very interesting and cool you mention and recognize such thing. This tells us we've in some way succeed. Although many productions these days are quite powerful, the one of your new album is especially strong and really emphasizes the contrasts of epic and brutality as well as the change of atmosphere. In how far does Andy La Roque help you to sharpen your sound and what role does he play for you – is he a helping friend, a paragon, or a slave driver when it is needed? try to have everything done as long as possible before the studio recording. Me and Jonas do several pre-recordings etc. with arrangements so that we know that it'll work in the end. I've never taken any lessons or actually been singing that much before starting King of Asgard up. It was at this level I noticed I could do it and that I could do it good. I've been pushed and forced to do things to almost perfection in the studio with takes over and over again. Still getting to the point it is well worth the battle with a result that I can be proud of and as are the other guys: Leaving victorious. There are many traces in your music which wake remembrances of old heroes, this time Metallica, early In Flames (Lunar Strain) and Bathory came to my mind. Which bands do you owe quite a lot for what you play these days? Jonas: Of the ones you mention there is and has always been since we started the ever influential godfather of black metal and 'viking' metal: Bathory. It's almost hard to explain what he meant fresh and really a mind blowing experience to listen to! How often do you find yourself in retrospective and if you sometimes do, how much nostalgia is included? What do you miss and what are you happy to have left behind? Karl: This was kind of the reason I once started King of Asgard. I wanted to go back to my roots, getting to play some similar way of the music I enjoyed playing and listening to. Not that I'm looking back, I did before starting King of Asgard but now this is what I got and I don't need to lock back longing anymore. Now I look ahead and enjoy every second of what we're doing. One can miss parts of course but that's a different story. It is a great memory that I'm proud of and there are some memorable songs we wrote. Now I'm fully focused with King of Asgard and feel very safe and satisfied with the line-up and the direction we've taken. So it's all left behind, still very present with the similarities we've got. If you had the chance to meet one of the mythological characters of the North in order to talk with him/her, to ask for advice or to accompany him/her on a journey, whom would you choose and for which reason? Karl: Oh, this ain't easy. There are many occasions and mythological characters one would like experience and meet. Why not experience a topic we often come back to? To walk side by side with Odin on the onset and downfall of Ragnarök. This battle would be something for sure to have experienced. No actual reason, just something that fascinates me a lot and that is so powerful in all its mythological worth. »We'll not limit ourselves saying we could not write anything else but the subject we now discuss. It is cliché in all ways but to us it is something more, it's a sort of heritage we feel we need to treasure and bring forth and doing it through these channels is just perfect.« - Karl Beckman Jonas: Well, we know really well what kind of sound we're looking for so we simply told him at our first meeting in the studio. We want, as you say, power and aggression when brutal and epic when needed and this time we succeeded very well. Andy helps us out in all ways he possibly can and we also push ourselves to the highest level as we see the goal and we aim for it with full force. We know the potential of the songs and thus need the sound to support it. He's all three things you mention. He's a friend as we've know him well and been there before during the years of both King of Asgard and previous bands. He is for sure a paragon with all of what he have achieved with for example King Diamond, brilliant stuff! Last but not least he is a slave driver (when needed). He pushes us to greater heights when needed and never gives in for our boredom when things like that happen. This time we worked really close, especially on the finishing and last touching parts which was terrific! Both we and Andy left the studio least say proud which was great. Your vocals sound focused and truly fierce, yet they are well understandable. Is this a result of a life time experience of singing in metal bands or did you take lessons as well? Karl: We work hard on making the vocals fit with the music as well as making it understandable with things such as pronunciations and structures. We for this kind of music, it is still timeless. We might not show tribute all the time but Bathory is always present and we actually have a song on »...to North« that was supposed to work as a tribute to Bathory and giving dedication to him in the booklet. This never happened but the song is still on the album. On the other hand we try not to be very focused on our inspirations and such but sure there are traces of all kinds of heroes. But remember, Only Bathory is real! »To North« will be released on vinyl as well – was it a conscious decision to choose the faster songs for side A and the slightly heavier ones for side B? Jonas: Yeah, that's right and it's truly great to release it on vinyl as well. To the question, well, this is not fully decided yet so I'd rather not tell anyone anything more really until we know for sure. All I know is that we need to do something due to the length of album which may cause a different track listing. Still, nothing is carved in stone as we speak. Hope this release will make people crave a »Fi'mbulvintr« vinyl release as well. My first point of contact with your music was the 1996 promo of Mithotyn that I ordered from Richard Neu / Viking Force fanzine when the combination of blackened death metal with folk melodies was still -9- In how far has your perception of the myths changed over the decades since you discovered them – are they only nice inspirational sources for lyrics or have they more value for example as ethical or psychological guidelines for life? Karl: Actually this is mainly a source of inspiration and a sort of heritage we're carrying forth. I've always been interested to the matter and been fascinated by the myths but it have never turned into a religious way of thinking. Of course there are lots that are well worth thinking over and so forth. It has been with me in more or less all of my life but as said only as a high source of interest and inspiration. To some extent I could use it as guidelines in my life but no farther than that. It's my or ours heritage and that is what I treasure most and bring through channels as King of Asgard to others. It's a gift from the Gods and our Viking forefathers. Amon Amarth once combined a listening session with the visit of Viking museum, Helheim promoted their music with an acoustic set in a kindergarten and facing the many new metal releases each month, ideas like that might help to gather a bit of extra attention. How do you imagine a perfect listening session for »To North«? Jonas: That would be to bring you all to our nearby surroundings. We could start off not far from where we live and rehearse at the Rök Runestone. Then go to the mountain close to that surrounded with many strange myths, Omberg. The surroundings of where we live are rich of historical monuments so it would actually be really cool. The Rök stone would be great as it contains the world’s longest rune inscription many myths and so forth. The song "Vämods Tale" is by the way taken from that stone. Ending it all off with a hell of a drunken madness Mørkeskye #13 – a final gathering under black clouds… and a perfect listening session! »Up On The Mountain« sounds like a programmatic title not only for your music, but also for a perception of the world which is chosen by quite some metal heads who prefer to consciously choose whom they socialize with and to whom they keep a distance and who look to draw their back towards the hectic daily life. In how far are you familiar with such “outsider” kind of sentiments and do you like to wander in nature, in the mountains? Jonas: Sure, nature is a great escape in all ways and it is really nice to leave this, as you say, hectic daily life and blend in with nature. Just to stroll a forest or walk a mountain for example is great for gathering ones thoughts or to bring focus on something special that could be King of Asgard for example. Don't say it's a common thing but it happens. Interesting on such matter might be that Karsten and Lars live on the country side and has almost no neighbours, close to nature and the King of Asgard rehearsal room is also on the country side. The actual lyric for "Up on the Mountain" is in short about getting out of old traces, reaching for something higher and better. Be it the Gods... you might not reach it but you could surely get a better existence and a brighter future. You're into metal music for more than two decades and you have a focus on topics like Vikings, mythology, history ever since. In the mid Nineties you were among the pioneers of folk-influenced black metal, whereas nowadays newcomers to the scene may regard you as heirs to the (presumed) throne of Amon Amarth – what keeps the motivation strong to play this mythological metal with all its (lovely) clichés? Karl: It is basically just the interest and love of the old sagas. The history of our fantastic heritage etc. That is all needed. Even though King of Asgard ain't all about the Viking and the mythology and such which is kind of strange according to our band name. Still that is our basics but we'll not limit ourselves saying we could not write anything else but the subject we now discuss. It is very cliché in all ways but to us it is something more, it's a sort of heritage we feel we need to treasure and bring forth and doing it through these channels is just perfect. That is motivation good enough and also, we really like what we're doing. And if people see us as followers of other bands and such that is just fine with us. We know what we're about and don't think in such terms. We're too old for that! I must say that I'm really looking forward listening to the new Skogen album »Eld« and of course the new Ereb Altor which should be out soon. How do you judge the topical Swedish underground and which »smaller« bands would you recommend? Jonas: Funny as you mention these two acts which would certainly be the once I would mention in such question. They are both incredibly good bands and their earlier works are all amazing. I know Jocke from Skogen quite well and just heard one song from the »Eld« album and it sounds so promising. I do not think anyone is going to be disappointed with this, that is for sure. Same goes for Ereb Altor which seem to have a really good one coming as well with a slight different touch than before. Well, that is what I come up with, I'm mostly into the old acts actually but sure there are good things around now and then. But I do as you recommend Skogen and Ereb Altor and of course the new King of Asgard album! I must admit that before Ragnarök I didn't know »Fi'mbulvintr« and as it became clear to me that I would write a review of the gig I asked a colleague to burn me the album, so that I was able to write a review with at least some substance. Since your gig was so strong and »Einharjar« kept on playing in my head, I bought the album soon after and thus will every time listening remember the surprising gig at Ragnarök. Do you link - 10 - specific albums with remembrances in a similar way? Jonas: Oh, thanks! I can link many of old album to occasions that happened in the past. You know you remember specific occasions when hearing the music. But I think this is more rare happening to me nowadays actually. These things happened more in say the Early / Mid Nineties to me when you kind of heard things for the first time. Like when you got hold of the first albums of say Satyricon, Bathory or which band it might have been. That is something that has made its mark and that brings back good old memories. So these things is not happening too often any more, more specific songs if so. But when they do it is great of course. Do you fear as well that such forms of »deeper connection« will get lost in the hyper modern media surroundings where all is about easy & fast consumption? Jonas: Yeah, I think that this could be just one cause to why I do not get that feeling often any more. There is just too much of everything and it is all happening so fast. It is good in many ways with the new way of how media works but many things tend to get lost in it and not get the attention it deserves. This is a pity as for example that there are bands that maybe are not really ready for releasing albums get more attention than some that just don't get the same media attention and thus get lost. More things could be said about it but it is simply something we have to get used to and face. Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer & hopefully see you on tour with a line-up of strong bands! Thanks a bunch for supporting King of Asgard, you are all our kings!!! Yeah hope for some great shows ahead and that the album gets the attention I believe it deserves. Bring us your offers! Cheers! kingofasgard.com
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