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Are you interested in partcipating in State Golf Tournaments?
Yes
171
74%
No
56
24%
Do you use the Sir State Golf Website when seeking event information?
Yes
136
59%
No
90
39%
Do you think that the monthly emails from the State Golf Committee are
useful?
Yes
189
82%
No
36
16%
Are you receiving State, Division or Area Golf Tournament information through
your Area or Branch Golf Chairmen?
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Yes
182
79%
No
38
17%
Would you be interested in golf events held in the
following destinations in 2015 or 2016?
Reno
Yes
133
58%
No
81
35%
Yes
158
69%
No
56
24%
Yes
144
63%
No
67
29%
Napa
Monterey - besides Poppy Hills
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Solvang
Yes
55
24%
No
139
60%
Yes
77
33%
No
129
56%
Yes
52
23%
No
150
65%
Yes
97
42%
No
107
47%
Palm Springs
San Diego
Morro Bay and Central Coast
Manteca South to Bakersfield
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Yes
45
20%
No
153
67%
Yes
154
67%
No
63
27%
Lake Tahoe Area including Graeagle and Plumas Pines
Other Locations
Hiddenbrook (nearby Vallejo)
Sacramento
Lake Chabot Golf Coarse, Hayward, 1.5 hr. Hole 18 is a par 6
Bandon Dunes Oregon
N/A
Bodega Bay Tilden park yocha dehe
San Francisco Bay Area
Two Day Division 4 Tournament at or near Rancho Salano similar to the "Spring Fling",
perhaps in the fall instead of the Solvang tournament.
The Stockton/Lodi area has a lot of courses to play both here and in the foothills just
east of this area.
"No" above only means I don't really care. These venues are generally too pricy for me
personally.
You will increase participation by having more central tournament at a much reduced
cost, many golfers simply won't pay $200 to play golf anywhere. Having to drive one to
two hours for an 8am start time does not work rather.
Fresno
Sacramento /and surrounding hill counties
Sonora
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hwy 49 and Sonora area
Stevenson Ranch
Gold Country
Sacramento area, Angles Camp (Greenhorn Creek)
Would you be interested in golf events held at out of State
destinations in 2015 & 2016? Please mark your choices.
Las Vegas, Nevada
Yes
57
25%
No
142
62%
Yes
54
23%
No
147
64%
Yes
85
37%
No
120
52%
Mesquite, Nevada
Bend, Oregon
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
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Yes
42
18%
No
153
67%
Yes
49
21%
No
147
64%
Yes
33
14%
No
162
70%
Yes
40
17%
No
154
67%
Hawaii - Fly to destination
Hawaii, 15 Day Cruise & 3 Days of Golf
Mexico, Puerto Vallarta, Paradise Village
Other out of State destinations
St. /George, Utah Scottsdale, Arizona Tucson, Arizona
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St. George, Utah
Cabo San Lucas & Phoenix
N/A
Golf cruise to Mexico.u
Arizona, Florida, Trent Jones Trail, North & South Carolina
Phoenix, Florida and other East coast
Oregon and Northern calif counties Southern Oregon
Bandon Dunes, Oregon
Again too poricy for me personally. Y'al have fun.
denver col
none
Scotland
Scottsdale Az, Golf and spring training. Go Giants
What type of event would you like?
2 day event
Yes
115
50%
No
74
32%
Yes
101
44%
No
88
38%
3 day event with one free day and 2 days of golf
3 day event with 3 days of golf
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Yes
70
30%
No
119
52%
Yes
51
22%
No
132
57%
5 to 7 day event with 3 days of golf
What type of tournament format would you prefer?
Scramble
Yes
149
65%
No
56
24%
Yes
127
55%
No
63
27%
Low Net
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Best Ball
Yes
151
66%
No
46
20%
Yes
161
70%
No
44
19%
A combination of different formats
Would you prefer a tournament that:
included hotels and a banquet
has golf, but get your own food and lodging
132
57%
81
35%
Other Comments
Shamble format is also fun.
The SIR rule allowing the 6 inch bump is a violation of the Rules of Golf. 33-1 of the
USGA Rules manual states that the local committee cannot make a local rule that
violates the rules of golf. USGA rules should be followed by all of SIR.
One thing that is not good is having a poor B player in place of an A player If YOU
cannot find enough A players and have to settle for less better off dropping that
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foursome.
if you can get a good deal on a hotel package then that would be preferred otherwise just
give us organized golf outings.
Good job with what you are doing. I participate in all tournaments.
survey for Ladies of SIR members on the format they prefer: scramble, net, 2-best
ball..... If the ladies want to play then most of the men would enter thereby increasing
the participation overall....check it out !!!
Last question should offer it both ways with one hotel designated as Host Hotel where a
banquet would be held and that hotel offering some of the best rates
Need an active handicap committee to monitor indexs and tournament scores. SIR
scores seem to go against the NCGA math odds.
scramble format for all women tournaments
In 2014, I wanted to play in Reno but I live close enough (Auburn) to not require lodging.
No flexibility, so I did not play. I'd like to see this changed in 2015. Gregory Kosinski
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I see little to no interface between State and Area Golf Chairman within my Area/District.
There is no ongoing communications between Area and Branch Chairmen in my area.
Probably same in other areas. Additionally, preponderance of activities appear to favor
events and meetings north SFO area. I thought that this was a statewide activity.
Great Survey!!!
My wife also plays golf and we go and play together many of the places that are
suggested. I rather go to the outside of the area golf outings and play as a couple
If I have to stay in a set hotel I am most likely not going to attend, it usually makes the
trip too expensive.
If Coeur d'Alene is considered...don't set event for earlier than June 15.
In the State Team Championship, competition should be by flights based on a team's
handicap. The number of flights is arbitrary, maybe based on the number of prizes to be
given. The first place teams in each flight would earn the same payment. I offer this
suggestion because I have played on a team the last two years and not even come
close to winning. This past year at Rancho Solano, my team would have had to score 14
under par scratch to win the tournament, an impossible situation. There is simply too
much advantage given to teams with the highest handicaps.
Figure out how to speed up play. Peer pressure does NOT work.
I should be able to use my local ncga hcp in SIR events and NOT have to pay twice to
the ncga.
I qualified to play in the championship golf tournament at Laguna Seca two years ago. I
thought that the organization of the tournament was the very poor for a state
championship golf tournament or any major golf tournament. It would take several
paragraphs to outline the numerous reasons why I was disappointed in the SIRS golf
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organization. For example: I placed second. I was told that I would get a dozen Titleist
golf balls, but instead, I received a gift certificate for $30 for the Laguna Seca Golf
Course, which I couldn't use because I live 3 hours away. In addition, $30 didn't come
close to paying for a dozen golf balls.
The lodging should be optional.
What are the chances of Really getting A players that can hit the drives longer than 150
yds. and B players that can carry their weight. It is a embarrassing that the C & D
playler out drive the A & B players.
I have been told that some of the tournaments are not held to a very high standard. It
has been said that some players pick up their ball as if the putt was a given, this is not
in accordance to the Rules of Golf. I have also been told that some players have not
had to qualify to play in some events, I don't know if this is a branch issue but for mos
of those I talked to they feel it is not worth the effort or time to qualify and play along
others that did not have to qualify to play in the events. The latest was the event held to
allow players to play Poppy HIlls, Some never had to qualify for the tournament held at
Spring Hills but if they qualified to move on they were playing for free while others had to
pay and qualify. I am a stickler for the rules of golf, I didn't play at Spring Hills but if I
had and the play was conducted as explained to me I would have wanted some players
DQed for not following the rules, maybe someone should look into how these
tournaments are conducted and make sure rules are followed especially during a
tournament, thanks for letting me vent.
Wife's illness prevents participation in away events.
you guys do good
Since integrity is one of the tenets of SIR, what is the rationale for the "SIR 6-inch"
allowance for SIR golfers? Moving a ball in play is strictly against the Rules of Golf, and
even "preferred lies" under adverse conditions are only allowed in fairway-length mown
areas. Yet many (most, in my observation) SIR golfers think nothing of propping their
ball on a tuft of grass in the rough or "bumping" it out from behind a tree via a generous
interpretation of 6 inches, claiming they are playing "SIR Rules." Is there any chance of
getting SIR golfers to abide by a fundamental principle of the Rules of Golf -- to play the
ball as it lies -- so our organization can be viewed as serious golfers?
This has become a golf organization for high handicap golfers and that is understandable
given the average SIR golfer has a handicap well over 20. But at the same time the low
handicap golfers under 13 have little chance week in and out competing against golfers
who are designated as "A" players with a 17 handicap, which is ridiculous. For that
reason I no longer play in SIR events.
I have a timeshare at Paradise Village in Nuevo Vallarta and would be interested in a
tournament there, especially if it took place at a "non hot and humid" time of the year
and if there were a good program of activities for wives.
The further the venue, the longer the stay. I like golf each day. If I want to extend the
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stay, I like the flexibility of doing it myself. Though I, personally, am used to more
skilled events, I think you get more participation with scrambles. It's more relaxed and at
our age that's a good thing.
Need special rates for Napa hotels for the 2015 tournament.
We have large RV groups and alot of them are golfers. I think this will bring in more
golfers to your tournaments if you would use both formats You can still have a banquet,
I am sure they will pay for golf & banquet I have played in 2 of the state tournaments for
our area and in each case members with 24-28 handi caps shot 82 - 84 I quite playing in
the tournaments after that. I think all areas shoutd have 4 or 5 individual plays each year
and record them scores so we can see what the real handi caps are compared to the
sandbag postings. Then you would have a fair tournament. just my opinion.
The State Individual Championship should play 36 holes in 2 days, low net, 4 flights
only, but more prizes. A State two-man best ball championship should be added,
following NCGA rules (max 18.4 hcp per player) would be a blast.
Any overnight events need to include ladies.
State Golf Committee emails ?
Hotel and banquet depending on cost else book own accommodations and air fare to get
package deal
I've only played in local competitions and have no experience with destination play. My
wife does not golf.
Solvang was a great tournament but I think it's time to move on to another quality venue
that will generate renewed interest.
Would like to see a tournament where rules are enforced, such as no gimmes on putts.
Many members do not know the rules and try to make them up as they go. Need people
on course to assist with rules.
SIR events cost to much.
Your tournaments typically are too costly for what you get.
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