FullPracticeAuthorityandResponsibility What PAs are Saying December 2016 ThroughDecember20,2016 “Appreciateallcommentsre:FPAR.Inconsiderationtotitle(namechange),Isubmitthatitis simplyamatterofNOMENCLATURE.Wearecertainlynottrainedintoday’shealthcareerfield atthelevelof“assistants”.Examplesofassistantsintoday’shealthcareerfieldaredental assistant,medicalassistant,andnurseassistant.Wearerecognizedaspractitioners,inthe samegeneralrealmwithtrainingofnursepractitioners.Sincewepracticemedicine,not nursing,tobestdistinguishOURskillsetandtraining,IsubmittheONLYlogicalansweris MedicalPractitioner.Ihaveinitiatedandvettedlocallywithahugeresponseinbuyinginto MedicalPractitioner.Withthisexplanation,andchangedirectedtowards50yearsofchangein healthcarewithnomenclature,thissolutionshouldnotmeetwithargumentfromanywhere.” PA(Alaska) --------------------------------------------- “IfullysupportFPARandampleasedtoseethedevelopmentofthetaskforceandtheefforts yourteamhasdonetopropelthePAprofessionforward. AsPresidentofmystateacademy(Wisconsin)weareinsupportandarealreadyworking towardsFPARandModelStateLegislation.IwillbeworkingwithmyChiefDelegateandtheWI delegatestofullysupportthisattheAAPAmeetinginMay.Ourchapterisworkingwithour newlyhiredlobbyingteamtoputaplantogetherforFPARforWisconsin. Ihaveonerecommendation:Thestatementthatsays:"collaborationshallbecontinuous"is problematicasitstillinfersthatPAsaredependentpractitionersandwillbealegalissueasthis allbecomesdownstreaminstatestatutesinthefuturewhenimplemented.Icanguarantee thattherewillbepracticelawyers,corporatelawyers,medicalexamininglawyerswhowilluse theterm"shall"anduseittohamperPApractice.Irecommendtoremovethe"shallbe continuous"andeitherleaveoutthatsentencealltogether,ordescribecollaborationasan equalprofessionalresponsibilityofallpartnersinthecareofthepatient. Let'sgetthisrightthefirsttimeandavoidanylanguagethatcouldtripupthePAprofessionin thefuture.”PA(Wisconsin) --------------------------------------------- “IamstronglyinfavorofaroutetoPAfullpracticeresponsibility.Ibelieveitiscrucialtothe futureofourprofession.Withfullpracticeresponsibility,PAscanmoveaheadtobecome primarycareprovidersalongsideNPsandphysicians.Withoutit,theprofessionwilleventually shrivelandbecomemerelyahelpinghandtoourNPandMDcolleagues.Wewillloseourbest andbrightesttoNPprogramsandmedicalschools. IhavebeenaPAfor29yearsandhavealwayspracticedatthetopofmylicensewithagreat dealoffunctionalautonomy.AtthispointIdonotbelieveanyoneelseshouldbelegally responsibleformymedicaldecisionsandjudgement.Thereisnocontradictionbetween workingasateamandfullpracticeauthority-physiciansworkwitheachotherallthetime,and Iwouldarguethatonlyafoolpracticesmedicinewithoutinputfromcolleaguesandcoworkers. Intermsofmyjobsatisfaction,theonlybarriertomycompletesatisfactionwithmyprofession istherequirementfordependentpractice.IamenrolledinanRNprogramcurrentlyandam planningtoapplytoNPprogramsassoonasIcan-Iwouldmuchprefertofulfillrequirements forPAfullpracticeresponsibility,butcannotassumethatmyprofessionandmyprofessional associationswillpushhardenoughformetoseefullpracticeresponsibilityinmyworking lifetime.”PA(Washington) --------------------------------------------- “SeemsperplexingtomethatasaPA,IcantrainMD’s&NP’s,butdonothavefullpractice authority.Icanunderstandfornewgraduatesrequiringaperiodofprovingoneselfbutshould alsoincludeMD’s&NP’s.Thisantiquatedrestrictiononlyfurtherconjuresdivisiveattitudes amongprofessionals.Andcertainlycreatesmorerestrictionsforpatientsseekinghealthcare.I doubtpatientswouldbeamendabletoreceivingmedicalcareofthe1970’swhenmedicinehas advancedtotoday’sstandards.SowhyshouldPA’scontinuetopracticewithoutfullpractice authorityintoday’sclimateashasbeenrequiredformanydecades?Ourknowledgeand expertisehasadvancedbeyondtheearlystagesofPApractice.AsPA’s,wearetrulycompetent andcapableforfullpracticeauthorityandthus,shouldberecognizedassuch.Onapersonable note,asaPA,theNP’s&MDatmypracticeconsidermeasanequalforfullauthorityforall areasofbusiness&patientcare.Otherpracticesinmylocalealsorecognizetheprofessionalism &capabilitiesoftheiremployedPA’s.Seemstherestrictionoffullpracticeauthorityisjusta technicality,somethingsomeone,somewherefeelsaneedtocontrol.PA’sarebetterthan that!”PA(Indiana) --------------------------------------------- “AsaP.A.Cthat'sbeenpracticingfor31yearsIsawthiscomingdownthepikeaverylongtime ago.Itseemsthatnursepractitionerswhoarebasicallynurseswhogetamaster'sdegreein oneparticularfieldhavecontinuouslybeatenoutPhysicianAssistantswhogotomedicalschool andhaveintensemedicaltraining.Iseethisbeinganongoingongoingissueforthefutureand theseneedstobecorrected.”PA(California) --------------------------------------------- “IamaPAattheNashville,VA.IappreciatetheadvocacytheAAPAisprovidingforthis concern.Ipersonallyinteractedwiththisissuethisweek.IwasattemptingtostafftwoPAjobs, inwhichmychiefofstaffsaid"ohIshouldjuststaffthesepositionswithNPs,theyareeasierto get,anddomoreofthisworkthanaPA".Heactuallysaid"theyarecheapertoo"despitethe factthatthePAsmaystartoffhighersalarybutcapoutattheVAquicklybecauseoftheGS position;whereasanNPisonanursingscaleandcontinuestohaveraisesandendsupat retirementmaking$10-15KmorethanaPA.”PA(Tennessee) --------------------------------------------- “IwantedtogivealittlebitofmyfeedbackasaPAstudent.Ihavefoundmyselfalittlejealous attheadvancesAPRNsandthenursinglobbyareabletoattainfortheirsideoftheprofession.I hatetosayit,butasfuturePA,Ifeelaswearebeingleftbehind.FromwhatIseeonlineand fromPAsinthefield,therearemanythatfeelthisway.NPsaregainingintheVA,gainingin whattheyareauthorizedtodoinindividualstatesandIbelievetheywillcontinuetomake gainsbecausetheballisalreadyrollingfortheminthatdirection.Ithinkmoraleandthebelief thatAAPAislisteningislow,thereforedecreasingmembershipandenthusiasmthatchangecan bemade.FPARsoundslikestepsintherightdirectionarenowbeingconsidered,Ihopethe suggestionscanbeseriouslyconsideredcomeMay. Itisalsomybeliefassillyasitmaysound,thatthename"Assistant"inPAisdetrimentalforus intheeyesofuninformedpatients,intheeyesofcolleaguesandneedstobeupdated. Unfortunately,IthinkadoctorateforthePAprofessionissomethingthatneedstobeseriously consideredandevaluated.Intheeyesofthepublic,governmentofficialsandevenintheoffice, havingthetitleof"Doctorofxxx"isautomaticallyassociatedwithahigherdegreeoflearning, careandexperience.Somethingthenursingprofessionrecognizedandisusingtoadvancetheir cause.”PAStudent(Texas) --------------------------------------------- “IthinkwhatyouaredoingisgreatandwillmakeadifferencebutIcantellyou(havingworked inmanystatesoverthepast15years)thatmanystatemedicalboardswillresistthisasthey continuetotryandimplementevermorerestrictionsonourpractice“bigbrothering”theexact definitionofphysicianoversightwhenitisleftbroadinthestatute,restrictingthemedications wecanprescribe,etc. Ithinkwhenthisnationalmovementhitstheairways,therecouldbesomestateretaliationand itwouldbegreatiftheAAPAhasaplaninplacetocometotheaidofanystateswhomay experiencethisblowbackastheburdenofthisfightwillfallontheshouldersontheStatePA societiesiftheAAPAisn’tgoingtocomealongsideandfightthegoodfightwiththem.”PA (Nevada) --------------------------------------------- “IcurrentlyworkasaPAinaFederallyQualifiedHealthCareCenter,inBurlington,Vermont. WehaveterrificsupportfromourleadershipwithregardtobalancingthenumberofPAsand NPsinourorganization.WeworkcollaborativelywithMDsandmanageourownpanelof patients.However,inapplyingtootherpositionsoutsideCHCB(CommunityHealthCareof Burlington),nursepractitionersaremoreandmoreobtainingthesepositions,especiallyin primarycare.Iknowspecificallyofjobsaroundthestateinaddictionmedicinethatarebeing awardedtoNPs;tothelocalVAoutreachclinicandtoalocalstudenthealthcarecenter.While Idonothavespecificdatatosupporttheseobservations,Iknowatleastinthestudenthealth caresituationthatlackoffullofautonomywasthereasonfornotbeingabletohireaPA.Ifeel thattherearesomanyopportunitiesforoutreachgiventheruralnatureofmybelovedhome stateifthereweremoreautonomy.IhavecometobelievethatifwelltrainedPAsaregoingto haveopportunitiesopentothem,especiallyinPrimaryCare,itisnecessarytoseekfullpractice authorityandresponsibility.”PA(Vermont) --------------------------------------------- “ThisyearIwasdeniedconsiderationforatleasttwojobsbecauseofArkansas'shighly preferentialtreatmentofnursepractitionersoverPAs.Asamatteroffact,IhadaDNPtellme afterreviewofmyresumethatwith16yearsofpracticeundermybelt,Iammorethan qualifiedbut"weonlywantnursesanddoctors."AlthoughnotintheVAsystem,Iwouldreally appreciatesomehelp&guidancehereinArkansas.”PA(Arkansas) --------------------------------------------- “Again,theAAPAisbehindthe”8”Ball!Weneedafullpressonthisissue.Ihavebeenaretired militaryPAforalmost25years,andIhavealwaysbeensupportiveoftheAAPA inspiteofitsfailurestomeetanddealwithreality.TheNPorganizationismuchmore supportiveoftheirmembershipissues!WeneedtobeProactivevs.Reactive.Weneedtobein thesamepositionastheNP’sareinFederal,State,Militaryarenas.”PA(Tennessee) --------------------------------------------- “IwanttothanktheleadershipforkeepingontopofthisissuewiththeVA.Parodywiththe NPsisveryimportanttoallofusworkinginourcommunities.”PA(Texas) --------------------------------------------- “ItisdisappointingtoseehowslowtheAAPAhasbeentorealizethis.Nowwemustbereactive insteadofproactive.Whathaveourlobbyistsbeendoingforus?TheNPsarecrushingour profession,loweringourpayandtakingourjobs!!”PA(Illinois) --------------------------------------------- “IamacertifiedPAandhavemydoctorateinClinicalPsychology.RecentlyIwasturneddown foranin-patientpsychiatryjobatalocalhospitaleventhoughIhaveyearsofexperiencein Psychiatry.Iwastoldbytheemployer,thatIhaveaveryimpressiveresume’howeverIwould requireacollaborativeagreement.TheystatedtheywerehiringaPsychiatricNPwithyearsless experiencebecauseofthisissue.IhavenoticedinthestateofCaliforniaandPennsylvaniathe majorityofbehavioralhealthpositionsareseekingNPsandhavenointerestinPA's.Ihave beentoldnumeroustimesthishastodowiththe"supervision"requirementsofPAs.Ithinkthis isaverydisturbingtrendandonethathasmademequestionhowlongthePAprofessioncan lastifdoesn'tgainaccesstoindependence.IcanhonestlysayIwouldofgonetoNPschoolhad Iknownthiswouldlowermycompetitivenessasamentalhealthpractitioner.Iwouldloveto seePAsgainlegislativegroundonthisrestrictionthathasthepotentialtohurttheprofession succeed.”PA(Pennsylvania) --------------------------------------------- “Withallduerespect,Ithinktheadvancementofnursingpracticeisaturfwarinthesensethat itcostsemploymentopportunitiesforPA’s.Thishasbeenhappeningforyearswithout noticeableeffortsonthepartofAAPAtochangethesituation.Howdidthisnewruledevelop tothepointthatPA’swerenotincludedintheproposedrulebeforeitwasputoutfor comment?Cominglatetothetablesuggestsalackofawarenessaboutwhatwashappeningat theVAandinthevariousstateswhereAPN’shavemoreauthorityundertheregulationsthan PA’sdo.WedoourselvesandourpatientsadisservicewhenwenormalizewhattheAPN’sare doinginsteadofrecognizingitfortheturfbattlethatitis.”PA/Faculty(Maine) --------------------------------------------- “IhavebeenaworkingPAinfamilypracticefor37years.Ipracticeinaruralareawithoutdirect supervision,servingacommunitywithoutadequateprimarycare,yetmy1800patientsmay losemyverygoodcaresimplybecause,whenmysupervisoryMDretires,Iwon'tbeabletofind anotherphysiciantobemysupervisor.Iwillbeforcedto"retire",losingajobIloveandthe incomeitprovides,andmycommunitywilllosemyservicesasanexperiencedandvery knowledgeableprovider!Atthesametime,NursePractitionersinmystateneedonly2yearsof experiencetoworkindependently,withfullpracticeauthority!Howcanthispossiblybeeither rightorgoodforourcommunity'shealthcare?PleasepushforwardonFullPracticeAuthority forPAs,assoonaspossible!!”PA(Maine) --------------------------------------------- “Pleasemoveforwardwithindependentpractice.Wehavelostyears,letusnotwasteany moretime.Weareable,willingandready.Wecannotlagbehindournursepractitioner colleagues,weareaspreparedtocareforourpatients.”PA(Texas) --------------------------------------------- “IamaPApracticinginHawaiiwith2yearsofexperienceinaprimarycaresetting.Iamalso theactingtreasurerofourstateAPAchapter. Myinitialreactionofhesitationtofullpracticeauthorityandresponsibilityadmittedlystems frommyrelativeinexperienceasapracticingPA.Simplyput,Iwouldnotfeelcomfortable servingasasoleprovideratthispointinmycareer.However,asIlooktothenext5yearsand considerpastpreceptorsandcolleagueswithdecadesofclinicalexperience,Icanseehow consideringaninitiativelikeFPARmakessense-especiallyinanenvironmentofincreasing competitionfromournursingcolleagues.ThisisofparticularrelevanceinHawaiiwherenonphysicianproviderpracticeislargelyAPRNdominated. IhavealwaysconsideredthemostsignificantdifferencebetweenMDandPAtrainingtobethe lackofacompulsoryresidency.Withenoughclinicalexperience,however,thisgapintraining oftenbecomeslessevident/relevant.Perhapsthefactthat"fullpractice"isrelativeto experienceneedstobeaddressedbytheFPARcommittee.Thismayinformthecreationofa uniformmethodologytocertifypractitionercompetencesuchasanadditionalexam,optional residency,physiciancertification,etc.Regardlessofhowclinicalexperienceismeasuredto definefullpractice,itwillbeimportanttoaddressthedifferencesintrainingandexperienceto gainthesupportandbuyinfromphysicianorganizations. Thankyoufortakingonthisimportanttaskonbehalfofourprofession.Iamveryinterestedto seethedirectionthistakes.”PA(Hawaii) --------------------------------------------- “IapplaudtheFullPracticeAuthorityandResponsibility(FPAR)initiativeandthinkitisneeded forbothpatientcareandourprofession.Iamsuretherewillbemanycommentsforand againsttheinitiative,butfeelthisisaneededchangetopositionthePAprofessionforthe futureandforthecontinueddeliveryofhigh-quality,cost-effectivehealthcare. Iwouldliketoprovideapersonalexampleofhowbeinga‘supervised’healthcareprofessional iscounterproductive.Irecentlyacquirednewhealthcareinsuranceandwouldliketogotomy primarycarePAforcompletionofmywellnessevaluationtoqualifyforaninsuranceincentive. Iwasveryupset(asapatientandaPA)tofindoutthatonlyphysiciansandNPsareeligibleto performthewellnessevaluationandcompletetherequireddocumentation.WhenIquestioned thispolicy,Iwastoldbytheinsurerthat‘althoughPAsaretrainedtoperformmanyofthe servicesprovidedbyyourprimarycareprovider,theymustworkandbillunderthesupervision ofalicenseddoctor’andare,therefore,ineligible.Policiesandbeliefslikethis,inpartcausedby our‘dependent’status,arenothelpfultoanyone,otherthanperhapsphysiciansandNPs. MyconcernwithFPARisthattheprofessionbepreparedforpossibleunintended consequencesandmaintainthebenefitsofteam-basedcare.Onepossibleunintended consequencemightbeanincreaseddemandfordemonstrationofcompetencyintheabsence ofphysician‘supervision’.Employers,hospitals,andotherstakeholdersmaylookformorethan ageneralist’strainingtodemonstratecompetencyinspecialtypractice,andwemayneedtobe abletomeetthatdemandeitherthroughresidency/fellowship,certification,CME,orother methods.Ibelieveourprofessionshouldbeproactiveindetermininghowtodemonstrate competencyratherthanhavingotherstellushowthatshouldbedone.Wealsoneedtoassure maintenanceofacollaborativerelationshipwithphysicianssowehavetheirassistancein managingclinicalsituationsoutsideourtraining,experience,and/orscopeofpractice.Ibelieve thisisimportantforpatientsafety,PAliability,andmaintainingthehighqualityofcare providedbyPAswithinthescopeoftheirpersonalabilities.”PA(Pennsylvania) --------------------------------------------- “IhavebeenpracticingasaPA-Cfor18yearsandwasanICURNfor12yearspriortothat.I haveworkedinbothruralfacilitiesandurbanfacilities.I’veworkedinastatewhereImayuse thetitle“doctor”becauseIhaveearnedabonafidedoctoratefromastateuniversity.Iamnow workinginastatewhereIamnotallowedtousethatterminology(becausealthoughthereis noevidence,theAMAthinksitconfusespatients).IamlongoverthefactthatI’mcalledan “assistant”andI’mlongoverthefactthatinMinnesotaIcannotcallmyself“doctor.”Ido; however,wanttoshareastorywithyou,afterworkingwithforeignphysiciansfor30years. IhavefamilyfriendswholiveinPakistan.Twooftheirsonsattendedmedicalschool.Oneof themdecidedtocomeovertotheUStotaketheUSMLECS-2exam.Hegotcaughtupinascam inChicagoby“educators”fromPakistanwhopromised“studygroups,room,board,etc.”for $4500permonth.Hewasstuckina1-roomapartmentwith8otherstudentslearningabsolute garbagefrompeoplewhohadneversatfortheexam.IwasSHOCKEDtofindouthehad finishedmedicalschool(withaboveaveragemarks)andhadtakenandpassedboththeUSMLE 1and2tests(withflyingcolorsImightadd)buthadNEVERlaidhandsonapatient. Isubsequentlyworkedonmultiplecaseswithhimeverynightforatleast5weekstohelphim prepareforhistest.Thankfullyhepassed.But,Iwasastoundedathowmuchbookknowledge hehadandhowhehadnevermissedadayofclass….yetwassodangerous.Hecouldlegallyuse theterm“physician”and“doctor”yetIpersonallywouldn’tlethimtouchevenmyworst enemy.Heknewabsolutelynothing.Completelyclueless.Igavehimacasestudyofapatient withdarktarrystools-hisfirstdiagnosiswascancer.Igavehimacasestudyofa16yearold withasimpleviralsorethroatwhowasattheclinicwithhermother-hedidafullreviewof systemsandexamincludingsexualexamandaskedherwhyshewasnotsexuallyactive (remember,thisisinfrontofhermother).Igavehimacaseofanemergencystrokevictim,and hedidnotdoaneurologicalexam.Doyousee?Completelyclueless. Morethan50%ofthephysiciansintheU.S.areforeign,andthemajorityofthemarecoming fromIndiaandPakistan(over80%combined).Iunderstandtheymustgothroughafull residency,butinmyopinion,thatisafarce.I’venowworkedwithatleast4Minnesotafully licensedphysicianswhowentthroughfullinternalmedicineresidencywhohavesuchpoor clinicaldecision-makingskillsIwouldn’tletthemtouchmypatients,ANDtheyweresoarrogant theyrefusedtocollaborateordiscussalternativetreatmentoptions.Oneofthemevengaveme the“wellI’msureyouwenttoPAschoolbecauseyoucouldn’tgetintomedicalschool.”Alsoa farce,asIwasacceptedinto2differentmedicalschoolsontwodifferentoccasions,onewas MayoClinic.ICHOSEtobeaPA. HereisarecentarticlethatisimportantaboutphysiciansparticularlycomingfromIndia: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-medicine-education-specialreporidUSKBN0OW1NM20150617 IthinktheAMAhasbeenelitistandoutrightstubborntoallowPA’stopracticewithany independentauthority.Theywouldfranklyratherembrace“physicians”withsubstandard training(withonly5-6yearsoftrainingoutofhighschool-nodifferentthanaPA)thanallow PA’stochangethenametosomethingrespectableandpracticewithanyauthority.Casein point:therewasonestatethatruledthestate’smandateon“notusingtheterminology doctor”unconstitutional,statingthatphysicianshavethemonopolyontheword“physician” butnottheword“doctor.”Despitethis,therearestill17stateswheretheAMAhasinfluenced law-makerstomandatethisterminologyprohibition.Ithinkifyouwantanythingtohappen withregardtoPA’spracticeand/ortheirname,youhavetogetthebuy-infromtheAMA.I’m notsurethat’sgoingtohappen.”PA(Iowa) --------------------------------------------- “IamaMMS,PACinmy11thyearofpractice.Inotonlyfullysupportquicklyanddefinitive movingtoward"FullPracticeAuthority",buthonestlyfeelitisnecessaryforthesurvivalofthe professionoutsideofsurgicalspecialties. MovingtowardsFPAatthispointisessentiallychasingwhathasalreadyhappenedtomostPAs intherealworld.I'msuretherearesomePAsstillworkingcloselywithaphysicianinan'old school'model,butforthevastmajorityofus(myselfincluded)thisideadiedyearsago. Inmy4thyearofpractice(inUrgentCare),themedicaldirectorandadministratorcametome toinquireifIwouldbeginfillingthe"physician"slotsontheschedule.Classically,wealways hadonedoctorandonePAworkingatalltimes.Theywerehavingtroublefillingoutthe physicianschedule.Isaidnothatthiswasnotappropriateforthepracticesettingwewerein. Overthenextseveralweeks-IwastoldifIdidnotagreetothisIwasoutofajob,becausethey couldhireNP'swhowouldworkwithoutphysicians.IrelentedasIhadstudentdebtanda housepayment. ForthenextfiveyearsIwasthe"physician"ontheschedulewhenIworkedandneverspoketo anMDonceaboutapatient.Ieventuallymovedtoanotherstatelookingforwardtoworking withMDsonceagain,buttheonlyUrgentCareworkIcouldfindwasmeworkingasthesole providerinthebuildingwhenworking.ThegoodsideofthissituationisthatIamsupremely confidentinmyabilitynow,thedownfallforallofusisthatmanyofusaredoingthejobofa physicianwithoutthelegalabilityoranythingevenclosetoequalpay. EveryPA'Iknow'isinessentiallythesamesituationandmanyhavebeenreplacedbyNPs.NPs nowhave2hugeadvantagesoverusinmodernhealthcare.Itisimportanttorecognizethat modernhealthcareisnotownedordirectedbyphysicians.Thus,1.NPshavefullpractice authorityandarenotheldbackbyarbitrarysupervisionrulesand2.NPsaremoreattractiveto physiciansnow.Letmeexplain:thereisnolongeradirectmonetaryincentivetophysiciansnot owningpracticestoemployPAsvs.NPs.AllofthesavingsfromemployingaPAgotoa healthcareorganization,whileallofthesupervisionliabilitystillrestswiththephysician.Thus, physiciansattheseorganizations(whicharenowtheoverwhelmingmajority)wouldmuch rathernotbebotheredbyPAsandtheirrequired'supervision'. Inconclusion,theAAPAandPAsindependentlyMUSTquicklyanddefinitivelyacquireFPAor thePAprofessionwillbegintodisappear.”PA(California) --------------------------------------------- “WhataFANTASTICstepfortheprofession!Thiswilldecreasetheburdenonthehealthcare situationandraisethestandingofthePAandprofession. AfteralltheseyearsasdoctorsputmorepressureonthePAandnurseshavetheirautonomyas NPs,it'sacredittotheexecutivesthatwillraisethestandardsofthePAandourautonomy.I've beenaPAfor17yearsandpts(patients)ratherwantedtoseemeinsteadoftheMD.Weneed tohavetherespectofalltheprofessionsasautonomywillallowasweworkalongsidetheMD thewayitshouldbeinsteadofworkingforthem! Thiswillenhancetheprofessionandimprovethewellneededrespectaswell!”PA(NewYork)
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