DaveAsprey: Manypeopleinthebio-hackingcommunityhavehadtroublewithhowmuch theyoverpaytheirlifeinsuranceprovider,becausethesecompanieshaven't caughtupwithnewscientificstudiesthathavechangedthewaydifferentdiet typesandexerciseareviewedbythescientificcommunity. Forexample,peoplewhoarecommittedtotheBulletproofdietmayhavean increasedlevelofagoodkindofcholesterol,calledHDL,butsomelifeinsurance companieslumpallcholesterolunderonenegativecategory,liketheywere createdinthe1950s.Ohwait,that's'causetheywere.Adecisionlikethiscan greatlyincreasewhatyouwouldpayforlifeinsurance. Well,HealthIQisacompanythat'sdecidedtochangethat.HealthIQadvocates forahealth-consciouslifestyle.They'veusedscienceanddatatofightforlower ratesonlifeinsuranceforhealth-consciouspeople,includingcyclists,runners, vegans,andvegetarians,weightliftersandotherpeoplewhoareondietsthat actuallymakethemfeelbetter,performbetter,andlivelonger. Infact,researchhasshownthatpeoplewithahighhealthIQare42%lesslikely tobeobeseandhavea57%lowerriskofearlydeath.Manypeopledon'teven knowtheirhealthIQ,letalonerealizetheycangetalowerrateduetohavinga highhealthIQ. HealthIQhasspecialratesonlifeinsuranceforthehealth-conscious,andright now,Bulletprooflistenerscanlearnmoreandgetafreelifeinsurancequoteby goingtohealthiq/bulletproof.That'shealthiq.com/bulletproof,tolearnmore aboutlifeinsuranceforpeoplewhocareabouttheirhealth. Speaker2: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance. DaveAsprey: You'relisteningtoBulletproofRadio,withDaveAsprey.Today'scoolfactofthe dayisaboutmitochondria.Manypeoplethinkthatwegetabout50%ofour geneticsfromourmothersand50%fromourfathers,butyou'reactuallymore relatedtoyourmomthantoyourdad. That'sbecausewhenyou'reconceived,theeggandspermeachhave mitochondria,butmitochondriaarethepartofthecell,whichtakesinnutrients andbreaksthemdown,andcreatesenergy-richmoleculesforyourcells. They'rebasicallythebatteriesorthepowerplantsforyourcells,andyour mitochondriacomeexclusivelyfromyourmom.Ifyourmitochondriastop working,evenforjustaboutsixseconds,youdie,becausethosemitochondria arethatactive.They'reconstantlyrecyclingthisenergyforyou.It'skindoflike whathappenswhenyouriPhoneisdownatyour1%charge.Assoonasyoulose thatlastpercent,you'regone. Sincewe'retalkingaboutthingslikemitochondriatoday,IwouldberemissifI didn'tmentionHeadstrong,thenewbookthatI'vespentalongtimewriting. Startedhackingmymitochondria,ohgee,17,18yearsago,whenIrealizedIwas havingmajorbrainfog,Iwasfat,andhavingenergyissues,andeveryoneofthe therapiesthat'sbeenmosteffective,everyoneofthebio-hacksthatincrease thelevelofperformance,whenyoureallydigin,likeanonion,justpeeloffthe layers,rightattheverycore,it'salwaysmitochondrial. Sointhisnewbook,there'sstuffthatnoone'sseen,aboutwhat'scontrolling yourmitochondria.We'velearned,thanksto40yearsofrelentlessresearch fromauniversityresearcher,who'scoveredinthebook,that,prettymuch,your mitochondriaarethegatewaytohowyourbodyinteractswiththeenvironment aroundyou. Epigenetics,theideathattheworldaroundyouchangesyourDNA.Itchanges themthroughtheinfluenceofmitochondria.Sotheselittlethingsthatusedto bebacteriasareactuallyincharge,andHeadstrong,whichyoucangetat orderheadstrong.com,ifyouorderbeforeApril4thof2017,I'llactuallygiveyou thefirstchapterforfree,andyoucangetacouponfortheBulletproofstore, andabunchofotherfreebies.So,checkoutHeadstrong. Thatwasacoolfactaboutmitochondria.Today'sguestissomeonethatyou knowandlove,ifyou'realong-timelistener.ItisnoneotherthanDr.Mark,the medicaldirectorforBulletproof,andtheheadofourcoachingprogram.Soif yougoto...Mark,what'sourBulletproofcoachingURL? Dr.Mark: It'sbulletprooftraininginstitute.com. DaveAsprey: Thereyougo,bulletprooftraininginstitute.com,andassoonasyougothere, you'reinstantlyupgradedtoaveryposhBritishaccent,justlikeDr.Mark.It'sa freeupgradethathappens.Allright,maybenot. DrMarkandIarefriends.We'vecollaboratedonthecreationoftheBulletproof coachingprogram,whichnowhasabout500+students. Dr.Mark: That'sright. DaveAsprey: Andhundredsofgraduates,andthesearepeoplewhogooutandtakethese Bulletproofideasthatsay,"Thehumanbodyisasystem,anditinteractswith theworldaroundus.There'sthingsyoudoinsideyourhead,insideyourheart, andthingsyoudobiologically,withwhatyouputonyourplate.Whenyoustack allthattogetherinjusttherightway,youcandoamazingthings.Youcan actuallyteachclientshowtodoit." MarkalsoissomeonewhoI,whenwe'redoingQ&Afromlisteners,whereMark andIjustchataboutthis,becausehehasamedicalperspectiveonthis,andI haveabio-hackerperspective.Soyou'llalwayslearnreallycoolstuffonthe BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 2 of 18 show.Thesearesomeofmyfavoriteepisodes,eventhoughwedon'thavea traditionalguest.It'salwayssortoflike,IinterviewMark,heinterviewsme.So, welcometotheshow. Dr.Mark: Thankyou. DaveAsprey: Allright,Mark.Howarewedoingthis?Areyoureadingthequestions?AmI readingthequestions?Howdidwedecidetodothatthistime? Dr.Mark: I'llreadthequestions,ifyouwant.Shallwedothat? DaveAsprey: Allright.Yeah,okay.Whydon'tyoureadthequestionsandI'llanswer,thenyou answer,andwe'lldowhatwealwaysdo.Peoplewholistentousregularlyknow thesearekindofspecialshowswhereyoulearnalotaboutalotofstuff.All right,let'sroll. Dr.Mark: Okay,actually,beforewedoourfirstquestion,Dave,Iwanttotalkalittlebit aboutmitochondria,becausesomethingthathardlyanyonerealizesisthatata biologicallevel,wearefundamentallymitochondria. DaveAsprey: YouandIareinagreementthere. Dr.Mark: Itsoundslikeacrazything,right?It'slike,peoplego,"Well,aren'twehuman? Don'twehavelike60trillionhumancells?"Well,actually,wehaveovera quadrillionmitochondriawithinthosecells.Oneofthethemesthatwe'regonna bringintothisquestionandanswertoday,istokeeprelatingitbackto mitochondria.Because,whatwe'restartingtorealizeis,thatifyoureallycare aboutyourperformance,ifyoucareaboutyourenergy,youcareaboutyour health,thenyouneedtoknowaboutmitochondria. DaveAsprey: Infact,ifyouthinkaboutit,wehavethisgreatstory,andifyoufast-forward, fast-reverse,whateveryoucallthat,backtohighschoolbiology,"ohyeah,many hundredsofmillions,orbillions,ofyearsago,weharnessedsomelittlebacteria, whichbecameourmitochondria."Theyactuallywerelittlereddish-colored bacteriaatonepointinevolution."And,weusedthemforenergy."Now,the flip-sideofthatwouldbe,"Manymillionsofyearsago,mitochondriasawour cells,andwerelike,'Oh,petridishes!Let'scolonizethoseandtake'emover!'" Andtothisday,whenpeoplereadtheBulletproofDiet,ortheyhearmetalking aboutthethreebehaviorsthateveryonehas,theLabradorbrainbehaviors, thesearebacteriabehaviors.Thisistheoperatingsystemforabacteriatobe alive,andit'seasy.Eateverything,soyoudon'tstarve.Runawayfromorkill everything,soitdoesn'teatyou,andsothatyoucanreproduce,andthethird oneis,makesureyouhavesexwitheverythingelse,sothatyoucanreproduce thespecies.That'sallyoudotobecomeabio-film.That'showstufffloatingin theocean,orthestuffgrowing,frankly,inthebottomofyourtrashcan,it BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 3 of 18 doesn'tmatter,that'swhatbacteriadotostayalive,andthat'swhatplantsdo. That'swhateverythingalivedoes. That'swhatyoudo,too.Allofthebehaviorsthatyoudon'tlikecomefromone ofthosethreethings.Like,findsomethingthatyou'vedonethatyou're ashamedof,thatdidn'tcomefromyourmitochondria.Italwayscomesfrom thosecoreurges,andourjobashumansistobeabletobeawareofthoseurges andtohavecontrolofthem. Insomeofthemoreadvancedworkthatwedo,bothinthecoachingprogram andthenewpersonaldevelopmentseriesthatwe'rerunning,aswellasevenat 40YearsofZen,it'slike,howdoyoureprogramthecorebehaviorsthatcome frommitochondriasothatthey'relessreactive?That'swhyHeadstrongissuch animportantbook,andthat'swhy,ineveryquestion,we'lltiethisrightbackto mitochondria. So,thanksforcueingituptherightway,'causeIwasblownaway.Ialwaysknew mitochondriamattered.Ithoughttheywerepowerplants.Ididn'tknowthey wereincharge. Dr.Mark: Yeah,andit'squitehumbling,yeah?Whenyourealizesomuchofour unconsciousbehaviorandthewaywefeel,thewayweshowupinlife,theway werelate,thethingswethink,areinfluencedbytheseprimitiveorganssituated inourcell.Soit'stimewestartedpayingalittlebitmorerespectto mitochondria. DaveAsprey: Justunderstandingthey'reabout10%ofyourbodyweight,whichisnotthat much,buttheymake600poundsofATPeveryday,from50gramsofraw material.Theyjustkeeprecyclingit.It'slikeyouhaveyouriPhone,andits batteryisfundamental.Itdoesn'tworkwithoutthebattery.Well,thisisour battery,andit'slookingallaround,like,"WhatcanIdonow?"eventhoughyou don'tknowit'sdoingthat.It'sfascinating. Dr.Mark: Reallyfascinating.IlearnedalotfromreadingHeadstrongaswell.It'sa significantcontributiontothefieldofperformanceandhealth,sothankyoufor doingthat. DaveAsprey: Thanksforyourkindcomments,andImentionediPhonessincewe'regetting going,andpeopleliketohearthelatestbio-hacks.Beforewegetintothisfirst question,I'mgonnashowoffthebackofmyiPhone,'causeit'scool.Ifyou're watchingonYouTube,yougotoBulletproof.com/youtube,we'llshowyouthe channel. But,checkthisthingout.It'sasensorfromacompanycalledCardia,anditgets ahospital-gradeEKGontheiPhone,anytimeyouwant.Thefirstone'slookedat byadoctor,butafterthat,itactuallyusesartificialintelligencetotellyouifyour EKGoryourheart,basicallyifyourheart'sbeatingwell.Normallyit'sforpeople BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 4 of 18 whohaveheartattacksandareatriskofthingslikethat.Idon'thaveanyrisk likethat,Ijustlikecoolgadgetsthatmonitorthings.Plus,myiPhonelookskinda likeaspaceshipnow,soit'skindacool.Butyouliterallyputtwofingersonthe backofit,ittakes30secondsandthenitwilltakeyourEKG,sendituptothe cloud. In2003,Idesignedtheentirebackendinfrastructureforthefirststick-onheart ratemonitor,tosolveexactlythisproblem.Sothatwecouldtellpeople,"You're abouttohaveaheartattack.Gotothehospitalnow,becauseyouhave48 hoursbeforeyou'reprobablygonnadie." Well,now,there'sasensor.I'mnotsurehowmuchitcosts,becauseIgotitat thePeterDiamandisconference,butit'snotterriblyexpensive.Thisisthekind ofstuffthat'scompletelycoolforbio-hacking,becausebefore,thiswashidden data.Bytheway,guesswhat'spoweringyourheart.Ofcourse,it's mitochondria.Youhaveamitochondrialproblem,yourheartisn'tgoingtobe abletobeat,andyouactuallywillhaveaheartattack,ifyoudon'thaveenough mitochondriaenergyintheheart.It'swheretheelectricitycomesfrom.Thisis measuringelectricaloutputfrommitochondriathatisusedbytheheart. So,it'sfascinating,butevenwhenwe'retalkingaboutiPhones,there'sa mitochondrialconnection. Dr.Mark: Okay,let'sstartwithourfirstquestion.ThisisfromRodney,aged42,fromthe UnitedStatesofAmerica."DearDaveandDr.Mark,overthelastfewyears,I've hadanincreasinglyhardtimewithkeepingfocusedandclear-headed.Iget brainfog,andmyshort-termmemoryisn'tgreat.Caffeinehelps,butitmakes meanxiousandjittery.WhatelsecanIdotohelp?" So,whenIreadthatquestion,whatcomesupimmediately,isinflammationand mitochondrialdysfunction.Now,weneedtoexplainwhatImeanbyallofthose. IfweactuallyhadRodneywithus,we'dbeaskinghimawholebunchof questions.I'dwanttoknowthis,andwhat'shappenedtoyourenergylevels?Do yougetforgetfulness?Doyougetcravings?What'schangedinyour environmentoverthelastcoupleofyears?Whatareyousurroundedby? Inareallysimple,systematicway,totakealookatanyhealthissueorany performanceissueistotakealookattheenvironmentaroundyouandtheway it'sinfluencingyou.Thenyourinternalenvironment,yourbiologyand psychology,andsystematicallygoroundit.So,forRodney,Isuspectwhat's goingtobegoingonisthathe'sgotinflammation.I'dlovetoknowhowhisgut healthis.Areyougettinganybloating,anyflatulence?Anykindofwind?That kindofstuff. Now,I'vegotawholebunchofideas,astohowtogowiththis,butIjustwant togetyourinitialthoughtsonthis,Dave,fromyourperspective. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 5 of 18 DaveAsprey: Iwouldalsolookathisage,becauseoneofthevariablesthereistime.42isan interestingperiod.Mostpeopleunderage,well,notmost,well,slightlymost, 52%ofpeopleunderage40havenormalmitochondrialfunction.48%ofpeople haveearly-onsetmitochondrialdysfunction,accordingtoresearchin Headstrong. So,hejustcrossedover40,andprettymucheveryoneoverage40has mitochondrialdysfunction.Wecallitaging,andoneofthefivetheoriesofaging isthatyourmitochondrialfunctiongoesdown.Whenyoutalkabout inflammation,youalwaysgetinflammationwhenyourmitochondriastart leaking. Theideais,atight-runningmotordoesn'tleakoil.Allofthepressurefroman explosioninthemotorgoesintopoweringthecarforward,andthenyouget leakyvalveseals.Eventually,someofthepressuregoesintotheengine,it doesn'tgointothetires.Anoldcarjustdoesn'tdrivelikeanewcar.Itdoesn't havethesamepowercurve.Everytimeyourmitochondrialeakthesehighenergyelectrons,insteadofputtingthemintothesystem,itcreates inflammationdirectly.It'scalledreactiveoxygenspecies,orfreeradicals. Sincethebrainhasthehighestdensityofmitochondria,alongwiththeeyes, whichareanextensionofthebrain,thebrainitself,andtheheart,that'swhere themostenergypercelllives.Whensomeonesays,"Igetbrainfogandshorttermmemoryproblems"likethat,I'mlike,"Whatarethemitochondriainyour braindoing?"Andbyextension,sincemitochondriaalltalktoeachother,what arethemitochondriaintherestofyourbodydoing? Theansweris,youjustcrossedoverfromprobablyfunctioningmitochondria intotherealmof,mymitochondriahavestartedleaking.You'regettingolder.So whatdowedotoreversethat? Dr.Mark: Yeah,sowhatweneedtodo.Toanyonewho'slisteningtothis,whatI'mgonna sharewithyouarethebasicprinciplesfortacklinganyissuelikethis.Applyitto yourownlifeaswell. WewanttobasicallystartworkingoutwhereRodney'skryptoniteis.Kryptonite isessentiallyanythingthatunderminesyourenergy,yourperformance,the functioningofyourmitochondria,thefunctioningofyourbrain.Wehaveto takeontheroleofadetectivetodothat.We'vegottobesystematicaboutit. Sowecanlooktotheenvironmentsurroundingourselves.Whatkindoflight arewebeingexposedto?Isitfluorescentlight?IsitLEDlight?Arewegetting enoughsunlight?Theairaroundus,isitfullofnegativeions?Isthereair pollutioninthere?Istheremoldinthere?WhatkindofpeopleamIsurrounded by?AmIneartonature?WhatkindofwateramIdrinking?Isitchemically contaminated?WhatfoodamIbringingin? BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 6 of 18 OnethingIseeoftenwithpeoplewhohavebrainfog,andmanyofmypatients havebrainfogissues,itcorrelatesreallycloselytofoodsensitivities.Iknowthat ifI,personally,eatglutenordairyorrefinedsugar,I'llhavebrainfogwithina coupleofhours,period.Somepeoplehavelectinsensitivity.Lectinsare- DaveAsprey: Whatarethose? Dr.Mark: Thereyougo.Whathappenswhenyouhavelectins?Lectinisfoundinbeans, andlegumes,andgrains,andnuts,andseeds.Itcreatesthisinflammationinside ofyourbody.Lectinsarejustproteinsthatbindtocarbohydrates.They'rethe immunedefensesystemforplants.Butwecan'tdigestthem,andwhenyou're sensitive,they'recreatingsomeinflammatorycascadeinthebody.Youcanbe gettingalongfeelingfine,youhavesomelectins,andthen,beforeyouknowit, youcan'tthinkproperly.You'remakingbaddecisionsandyou'vebecomea prettymiserablepersontobearound.Thenyou'reaging,andyou'remoody, andallthiskindofstuff,andlike,anhourortwopreviously,youwere absolutelyfine. DaveAsprey: It'sinteresting,too,inthatsensitivityisgenetic.Itcomesdowntothewayyour immunesystemisputtogether.It'snotaboutallergyatall.Thisisaboutthose plantsdevelopedasystemtokeepanimalsfromeatingthem,andthatsystem worksagainstyou,butyourspouse,ortheguestsittingacrossfromyoumaybe perfectlyfineeatingthatplant.It'snotthattheplantisgoodorbad,it'sthatit's kryptoniteforyou.Mostpeopleeatthehigh-lectinfoodseverysingleday.Your normalstateisnotthesame.There'satleastthreestudiesthatI'vecitedin Headstrong,thattalkabouthowlectinsdirectlypoisonmitochondria,ifyou're sensitivetothatkindoflectin. Thedysfunctionofmitochondriahappensbecauseyouatebellpeppers,oryou atepotatoes,andyou'resensitivetothelectininthatfood,eventhoughthey're notbadfoodsforsomepeople.So,forRodneyhere,Iwouldreallywanthimto lookat,whatareyoudoinginthemealsfor24to48hoursbeforeyougetthe worstbrainfogandshort-termmemoryproblems? Ialsothinkthatwewouldwanttoaddressbloodflowinthebrain.He'sgotto begetting,whatIrecommendinHeadstrong,andwhatthedatashowsis,look, ifyoumovefor20minutesaday,andmoving,goforjustanormalwalk.You don'thavetotakethestairseveryday,althoughthatmightbegood.You'renot gonnabeabetterpersonifyoutakethestairs.IusetheBulletproofVibe, usuallythat'smyprimaryformofmovement,especiallywhenI'vegottwofeet ofsnowonthegroundlikeIdorightnow.It'snotthatconvenienttogofora walkinit. Theotherthingthatcouldmakeareallybigdifferenceis,inthelastthreeyears, mostpeoplehaveaddedLEDlightstotheirhouse,andthebrightnessofTVs, andthebrightnessofphonesandall,it'sgonecrazy.IrememberIgotmyfirst Mac,thefirsttimeIgotajobataventurecapitalistfirm.Thiswasalmost10 BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 7 of 18 yearsago.I'dwantedtoworkataVCsinceIwas12yearsold.Iwaslike,"A venturecapitalist?Howfun,yougettoseeallthesecompanies,andyougetto helpthesepeoplewhoaredoingallthesethings." IboughtanewMac,andIwouldsitinthisfluorescent-litroom,staringata super-bright,whitescreen,andby11inthemorning,Ifeltlikesuchazombie, andIcouldn'tfigureitout.I'dgooutsideforalittlewhile,andI'dletmyeyes relax.I'dlookattheSun,andI'dgobackin.Itwasdrainingtome.WhatIfigured out,afteracoupleofyearsofthis,wasthatthenewbrightLEDilluminationin laptopscreensthatthey'djustaddedtotheMacs,itwasaffectingmybrain. Theeyeshavemitochondriathatgetsstressed.Anewstudyjustfounda23% reductioninmitochondrialfunctioninthemacula,afterexposuretothese brightwhitescreens.That'salot.You'regonnagetmaculardegenerationifyou stareatafullyilluminated,anykindofmodernthing. EventheTV,IhaveanewSonybig-screenTV,andit'ssobrightthatthekidsand Dr.LanaandI,welookatthat,especiallyevening,anditknocksusout.We actuallyhavetoturnthebrightnessdown,andchangethecolortemperature, andit'sbecausethemitochondriatalktoeachother. Wethinkweknowhowtheytalktoeachother.Weknowtheydotalk.Wedon't knowifit'schemicalor,myguessisthattheytalkbyshiningphotonsateach other.Thesearelittlelightmolecules,they'recalledbio-photons.Weknow mitochondriaareverylight-sensitive,andweknowtheymakelight.Sotheidea thattheymakeitandthentheyhearitisnotthatuncommon.Wealsoknow that,withoutcompletedarkness,thatdoesn'twork. SoforRodney,atnight,whenyougotosleep,youneedtocovereveryLEDin yourbedroom,andyouneedtoduct-tapeyourcurtainstothewindow,or betteryet,getaproperroll-downshadeandcurtainsthatcoverit,sothatwhen youopenyoureyesatnight,thereisnostreetlightcomingin.Becausewe've changedthespectrumoflight,wehavelikethecorn-syrupoflightingin streetlights,andyourneighbors'lights,andoutdoorlights,andifyoudon'tget absolutedarkness,you'regoingtogetbrainfog,andyou'regoingtogetshorttermmemoryproblemsovertime. Justcontrollingthat,lesssugar,andmoreketones,Ithinkwouldmakeahuge difference.There'snothingwrongwithlookingatthewritingI'vedoneabout nootropicsandsmartdrugs,because,forme,for20yearsI'vebeentakingsmart drugsthatsupportmybrain.Aniracetamismyfavoriteone,whichactuallylets yougetyourshort-termmemory,theycallitmemoryIO,theabilitytogetthings inandoutofmemory. Idon'tforgetwordsever,whereasbefore,eventhoughIwasaverysuccessful executiveinSiliconValley,thereweretimeswhenIjustcouldn'tremember words,anditwoulddrivemenuts.Atthispointinmylife,eventhoughIhavea BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 8 of 18 veryintenseschedule,I'mbacktoback,I'maNewYorkTimesbest-selling author,IrunaWebbyAward-winningradioshow,I'mCEOofarapidly-growing venture-backedcompany,andI'madadwhospendsalotoftimewithhiskids, I'mallin,Idon'tforgetwords.Theycomeeffortlessly,andifIevenforgetone wordinaday,it'saredflagandIsay,"WhatdidIjustdo?Whatchanged?" becausethatisnotanormaloccurrence.Whereasbefore,dozensoftimesa day,itwasanormaloccurrence. Soforyou,that'sasignandyou'vepickeditup,Rodney,thatsomethingisn't right.You'vegottofigureout,whatdoyoudosoyouhavelessofthat,and moreofthat.That'syourradarmap,totellyouwhenyou'redoingbetteror doingworse. Dr.Mark: Ijustwanttozoomoutthere,soforanyonelisteningtothis,justbearthisin mindaswell.It'sthat,ifyouforgetsomething,ifyoufeeltired,oryouget moody,oryouinexplicablygetangry,ifyoucan'tfindtherightword,ifyoucan't holdyourfocusandgeteasilydistracted,thatisasymptomofanunderlying disorderedbiologyandpsychology,andpossiblyenvironmentaswell.Sowhat happensinsocietyis,wejustnormalizeit.Wejustsay,"Okay,thisisjustme. Justkindacreepson,right?"We'resurroundedbyotherswhoaredistracted andtiredaswell. Onethingyoumentioninyourbook,is"normalisyournemesis."That'sa phrasethatkindastuckwithme.Maybewecantalkabitaboutthat,because there'sgonnabealotofpeoplelisteningtothis,whohavebeentolerating essentiallyintolerablesymptomsforalongtime,thinkingnothingofit.Yet,by makingsomeadjustmentstotheirinternalenvironment,theirexternal environment,notonlycantheyresolvethesymptoms,buttheycanactuallyfeel reallygood. DaveAsprey: Youcanfeelreallygood.Theproblemis,youdon'tknowwhatreallygoodfeels like.Unlessyou'rehospitalizedordisabled,youprobablythinkyou'redoingall right.Thisisourownabilitytodeceiveourselves. Ididn'tknowyouweresupposedtobeabletowalkwithoutpain,becauseIwas bornduck-footed,believeitornot,andIlearnedtostraightenthatout.Ihad arthritisdiagnosedinmykneeswhenIwas14yearsold.Ihaveascrewinmy rightknee.WhenIwasabout20-ish,somewhereinthere,Ifinallygotorthotics thatworked.IwalkedacrosscampusattheUniversityofCaliforniainSanta Barbara,andI'mlike,"OhmyGod,Ijustwalkedacrosscampuswithoutpain!"I hadnoideathatwaspossible. Iplayedsocceratahighlevelfor13years,andI'mlike,"It'sjustsupposedto hurt,soyoujustpowerthroughit."Soforme,normalwas,"Thisisjustastate. It'snotevenabigdeal."Butitwascompletelyabnormal. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 9 of 18 Sowhatourgoalis,asbio-hackers,is"Donotbenormal."Averageisnotwhat youwanttobe.Youwanttobewayaboveaverage.Youwanttobeabnormal. Whatthatmeansis,istheresomethingyoudon'tlike,evenifyouconsideritto benormal?AndinRodney'scase,hefiguredout,"Idon'tlikeitthatI'm forgettingwords.Idon'tlikeitthatI'mgettingtired."That'sbecomingnormal foryou,andnowyou'regonnareversethat,andyou'regonnamakeitabnormal again. Dr.Mark: That'sit.Onthemedicalfront,forpeopleouttherewithbrainfog,medications areaverycommoncauseofbrainfog.Ifyou'retakingbeta-blockers,antidepressants,sleepingtablets.Ifyou'reonany- DaveAsprey: Bloodpressuremeds. Dr.Mark: Bloodpressuremeds.Ifyou'reonanymedicationsandyou'reexperiencingany symptoms,lookatthesideeffectsofthemedicationsandstartthere.Because I'veworkedwithquiteafewpeopleinthepast,whohavetriedeverythingto improvetheirbrainfogandattention,anditturnsout,it'sasideeffectoftheir medication.So,that'sreallyimportant. Ifyou'rehavingalotofalcohol,aswell,you'retakingillicitdrugs,allthatcan affectyourfocusandattention.Ialwaysaskaboutguthealth,becauseifyou havesmallintestinalbacterialovergrowth,soyou'vegotbadbacteriainthe smallintestine,you'vegotcandidaovergrowth,you'vegotanychronicinfection orchronicviruses,you'vegotdentalinfections,gingivitis,inflammationofthe gums,allofthatgeneratesinflammation,whichshutsdownmitochondrial energyproductionaswell. So,there'salottothinkaboutbutbasicallyyougothroughitsystematically. Youstartwithyourexternalenvironment,thenyoulookatyourinternal environment,andinHeadstrong,Dave,youofferthisfour-stepprocess,whichI reallylike.Numberoneis,youstopdoingthestuffthatmakesyouweak. DaveAsprey: It'seasierthatway. Dr.Mark: It'seasierthatway,right?Wealwayssay,"Startwithyourkryptonite,"because kryptonitetrumpseverything.Youcanbetryingtodoalltherightthings,take alltherightsupplementsandstuff,butyoustartwithyourkryptonite.That's whereyourgreatestgainandrewardis.Thenyoutalkaboutaddinginenergy, andmaybewecanexplainthisalittlebitmore.Increasingefficiencyofenergy productionandsupply,andthenstrengtheningmitochondria.That'sareally niceframeworkforworkingwithsomeonelikeRodney. Ithinkwe'vetouchedonthekryptonitestuff,butwhatcanwebedoingabout supportingenergyandmitochondrialfunction? BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 10 of 18 DaveAsprey: Wetalkedaboutmovingalready,whichisoneofthethingsthatcausesyouto grownewmitochondria.There'stwotypesof,quote,exercise.Oneofthemisn't reallyexercise,it'sjustmoving.That'sgoingforawalk.Itdoesn'tdoanythingin termsofbuildingmuscle.Itdoesn'treallycreatewhatwecallhormeticchange. So,onceaweek,youneedtoliftheavystuff,andyouneedtodoitreally intensely,for10or15minutes.It'snotthatmuchwork;it'sveryefficientin termsoftime.Youwanttomoveeveryday,that'sgoingtohelp. Then,intheBulletproofDiet,andcertainlyinHeadstrongwiththeeating recommendation,gettingenoughpolyphenolsintoyourbodyreallymatters. Polyphenolsareplant-basedcompoundsthatinteractwithlight.They'reantioxidants.They'refromfamoussources.Thingslikeblueberries,anybrightlycoloredvegetable.Blue,purple,red,yellow,thingslikethat. ThenumberonesourceofpolyphenolsintheAmericandietiscoffee.Inthediet intheUK,it'sprobablystillcoffee,butitmaybetea.Teaisamuchweaker source,butit'sadifferentkindofpolyphenol. So,whatIstarteddoing,afterIbecamemoreawareofthis,was,mygoalwasto gettwogramsofpolyphenolsaday.Ifyoueatanormal,high-vegetablediet, whichactuallyisn'tthatnormal,you'regettingaboutagramaday.I supplementmypolyphenols,andIalsodrinktwocupsofBulletproof, Bulletproofcoffee,withthemold-freebeans,'causeitturnsoutthesemold toxinsI'vebeentalkingabout,they'remito-toxins,theyharmyour mitochondrialfunctionviaseveraldifferentpathways,soyoudon'twanttodo that. ButIalsodothreecupsofBulletproofDecaf,withoutthebutterandthebrain octane,becauseIhavethosewithmeals.Thestudiesoncoffeeshowthat peoplewhodrinkfivecupsaday,decafornot,havelowerall-causemortality, andIbelievethelikelyreasonforthatisthesepolyphenols. SoI'veincreasedmyconsumptionofcoffeeortea.Yourjob,ifyouuseeither oneofthose,isdon'tputmilkinyourcoffeeoryourtea.Thereasonisthatmilk stickstothepolyphenolssoyoucan'tusethem.Ittakesawaythebenefits. It'sinteresting.PeopleintheUKdrinksomuchtea,theyshouldhavea reductioninstomachcancer,buttheydon'tgetareductioninstomachcancer becausetheyhavethehabitofputtingmilkintheirtea.Ifyouchangethathabit, youcanputbutterinyourteathewaytheTibetansdo,oryoucouldjustdrinkit black,andyou'llactuallygetmorebenefitsfromitthatway. Yourgoalisabigplateofvegetables,moderateamountoffruit,because fructoseisbadforyourmitochondriatoo,butsomefruit'sokay,anditdoes havepolyphenolsinit.Fruitfordessertisabetterplan.Whenyouputfatin yourvegetables,saygrass-fedbutter,avocados,coconutoil,oliveoil,thingslike that,thefatallowsyourbodytoabsorbthepolyphenolsevenbetter.Soyou BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 11 of 18 endupwithamuchmorepowerfulyou,tobeperfectlyhonest,whenyoudo this,andthisovertimewillhelpwithbrainfog. Dr.Mark: That'sgreat,andasyou'resayingthat,Dave,otherthingsarecomingtomind now,andRodney,ifyou'relisteningtothis,justcheckintoseeifthisistruefor you.Sameforanyonewho'sgotbrainfog,focusissues,Iwanttoknowwhat's happening,stress-wise.Areyouunderalotofstress?Ifyouare,whatyoucan bedoingtoattendtothat,andobviouslyreduceit,manageitbetter. Iwonderwhatyourhormonesaredoing,aswell.You'reaged42,Iwanttoknow whatyourDHEA,yourtestosteroneis.Formyfemaleclients,I'malwaysgoingto beinterestedinwhat'shappeningwithprogesterone,estrogen,pregnenolone. Thyroidhormoneismassive.Ifyouhavealow-functioningthyroid,andyour thyroidlevelsarelow,thyroiddrivestheATPproductionprocess.Itisessential; it'sapowerfulregulatorofmitochondrialfunction.So,ifyou'vegotalowfunctioningthyroid,andmillionsofAmericanshave,notonlyareyougoingto feeltiredanddepressed,notonlyareyougonnaputweighton,butyou're gonnahaveahellofaproblemtryingtokeepyourfocus,andyou'regoingto experiencebrainfog. Allofthesethingswehavetoconsider.That'swhyideally,youworkalongsidea functionalmedicine-trainedpractitioner,whocandothetestingforyou.Ifyou dothebasics,andyoudon'tgetasubstantialimprovement,andyoufeelyou're doingalltherightthings,thenyou'vegottaworkwithahealthprofessionalwho candothetestingaswell. DaveAsprey: There'salsosomethingcalledMILI-brainfog,whichstandsforMother-In-LawInduced,andthat'snotreallyamedicalterm.Bottomlineis,ifyouhavefamily stress,whetherit'syourmother-in-lawornot,orifit'sanyothersortof emotionalstress,mitochondriapickuponemotionalstress. So,ifyouhaveavaguesensethatyou'regoingtodie,orthattheworld'sabad, nastyplace,mitochondriaactuallystopdoingtheirrepaircycles,andtheystart doing,"HowdoIhaveenoughenergytorunaway,andkillthingsrightnow?"If youdothatpersistentlyandconsistentlyovertime,youdostarttolosefunction inthosethings.Soifyoudohavealotofemotionalstressinyourlife,that works. AnditactuallyleadsusnicelytothequestionfromBelinda,fromAustralia, who's34.She'saskingus,shesays,"DaveandMark,I'vebeenanxiousallmy life.Mymomisthesame.IhadsomeCBTafewyearsago,whichhelpedalittle, butI'mkeentoberidofthis,onceandforall.Pleasehelp."Whatdoyouthink there,Dr.Mark?I'vegotsomeideasthere,butyoustart. Dr.Mark: Loadsofideas,andmostofmyclinicalexperienceisworkingwithpeoplewith anxietyanddepression,soalotofsuggestionshere.FirstthingIwanttoinvite BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 12 of 18 foryou,Belinda,istoreframethisalittlebit.Icompletelygetyouwanttobe freefromitandridofit,butthatkindofgoing-to-warstance,actuallywhatit doesinthelongerterm,itcreatesalotmorestressandtension,becauseyou're atwarwithyourexperience. WhatIwanttodoisreframeitto,"nottryingtogetridofthis,buttryingto identifywhat'sgoneawryinmybiology,andpsychology,andenvironment,to createthisexperience?"Soweshiftourenergyfrom"I'matwarwiththis"to actually"well,we'vegotourdetectivehaton."Now,forsomeonewhohaslongstandinganxiety,normallywethinkGeneralizedAnxietyDisorder,andthat's disabling,itreducesqualityoflife. Onethingwehavetocheck,andit'sprobablynotrelevant,isinsomepeople withanxiety,itcouldbePost-TraumaticStressDisorder.So,youdon'tgiveany informationthatsuggeststhatisthecaseforyou,butjustforanyonelistening tothis,ifyouranxietystartedafteratraumaticevent,yougetflashbacks,you feelonedgeallthetime,youoverreactemotionally,youavoidcertain situations,thenyouthink,PTSD.You'vegottogodowntheworkingwitha psychotherapistroute,usingMDR,brain-spotting. DaveAsprey: Andremember,that'sgonnafeelnormal.Ifyou'vehadPTSDformostofyour life,you'renotgoingtoseethoseresponses,butthepeoplearoundyouwillsee them. Isaythisfrompersonalexperience.IhadPTSD,Iwasbornwiththeumbilical cordwrappedaroundmyneck.Ihadbirth-relatedPTSD.IhadnocluethatIhad it,orthatithadanybearingonmybehaviorsormypersonality,butIhadvery low-levelbeliefs,subconsciousbeliefs,thattherewasalwayssomethingtrying tokillme,becauseIwasbornintoaworldwheremybiology,mynervous system,waslike,"Wow,thereissomethingchokingyou,Iguessthisisn'tavery niceplace." Andifyoucarrythatwithyou,itwillbeveryhardtosee,foryou,buteasyfor thepeoplearoundyou,whocareaboutyou,tosee. Dr.Mark: Absolutely,andI'malsogonnaassumethere'snomedicalcause,aswell?So, yourthyroid'sbeenchecked,there'snohyperthyroidism,you'renotonany medications,soassumingallofthat,thenwhatcanyoudo?Well,westartwith yourbiology.Now,weknowthatifsomeoneishypoglycemic,theywillbecome anxious,soweneedtoworkonyourdiet.Maybe,Dave,youcanspeaktothat, inaminute.Butthere'ssomeverybasicthingsyoucando. YoucantakesupplementslikeL-Theanine.Itincreasesthebrain neurotransmitterGABA,whichrelaxesthebrain,putsusintoalpha-state.Add tothatthingslike,passionflower,lemonbalm,thosekindofcalmingherbs,and addinmagnesium.Sowhatyoudois,you'restartingtotakecontrolofyour hyper-arousedsympatheticnervoussystem.You'restartingtocalmitdown. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 13 of 18 Dave,inthebookyoutalkabout,andIwastryingtosayittheothernight,the box-breathasawayofcalmingthenervoussystem,soIdon'tknowifyouwant tomentionalittlebitmoreaboutthat,andwhattheideabehinditis. DaveAsprey: Ohsure,andinfact,whenpeopleorderHeadstrongatorderheadstrong.com, there'safewvideoswhereIteachbreathing,andIjustrecordedthevideotwo daysago,onhowtodobox-breath,butI'llofferitherereallyquick. Box-breathissomethingthat'susedbymilitaryspecialforces,inordertocalm thenervoussystem,sowhenBelinda'sfeelingaspecificanxiety,like,"Wow,I'm reallyfeelingitrightnow,"youstop,takeadeepbreath,andyoubreatheinfor fiveseconds,throughthenose,holdyourbreathforfiveseconds,breatheout slowlyforfiveseconds,andthenholdorjuststopatthebottom,andleavethe lungsemptyforfiveseconds. Formostpeople,thatfivesecondsofemptylungsisgonnatriggeranxietyat first,andthat'sthebodygoing"Idon'thaveair,I'mgonnadie!"Andwhenyou justsitwiththat,andthenyoutakeanotherslowbreath,andyoujustkeep repeatingthisfivesecondsoneachsideofthebox,whathappensis,thebody learnsit'snotgonnadie,anditbecomescalm. It'sareallypowerfulwaytoturnoffthestate.Thereisacluehere,Mark,from Belinda.Shesaysshe'sanxiousherwholelife,andhermomisthesame.What thatmeansisthatyou'velearnedtobeanxiousfromyourparent.Wehandthis offtoourkidswithoutmeaningto.You'realittlekid,learninghowtorespond totheworld,andwhenyouseeanxietyinanadult,astheirresponsetothe world,youwillfeelthatandyou'lllearntomodelit. There'ssomeinterestingstuffthathappens,too.Ididn'twriteaboutitinthis book,butit'scalledmetaanxiety.Whenyou'reanxiousaboutbeinganxious, everytimeyoufeelanxious,it'slike,"Ohno,I'mfeelinganxiousagain!I'm gonnadie!"Anditactuallydoublesdown.It'slikeanexponentialworseningof this. Wealsoseethisinpeoplewhohavesleepdeprivation.Ifyou'renotgonnageta goodnight'ssleep,youcouldwakeupandtellyourself,"OhGod,Ididn'tsleep welllastnight,I'mgonnadie,it'sgonnabeaterribleday,"andthenyourstress overnothavingenoughsleepisworsethanthebiologicaleffectsofjustnot sleeping. Sowhenyourealize,andyoushiftyourthinking,thisisverydifferentthan cognitivebehavioraltherapy,whichiswhatworkedalittlebitforher.In cognitivebehavioraltherapy,youlearntofeeltheemotionandthenthinkyour wayoutofit,right?Andsortoftalktoyourselfaboutthat. Theproblemwiththatisthatthinkingyourwayoutofyouremotionsis biologicalintensive.Itusesalotofelectronsmadebymitochondria.Soyoutake BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 14 of 18 Xpercentofyourwaking,focusedeffortandyoustartusingthattoputsystems inplacetomanagetheanxiety. WhatMarkandIaretalkingabouthere,wheneverpossible,istoaddresscore causesoftheanxiety,andtoreprogramthat,withthingslikeEMDRorbrainspotting,orneurofeedback,orheart-ratevariabilitytraining,whichit'sonly100 bucksforaheart-ratevariabilitydevice,inAustralianbucksthatmaybelike107 orsomething,butstill,it'srelativelycheap. IliketheheartmathdevicecalledInnerBalance,andallyoudo,20minutesa day,youbreatheandmakethelightturngreen.Whenyoumakethelightturn green,youjustownedyouranxietyresponse.Insteadofthinkingyourway outsideofit,youfeltyourwayoutofit.Feelingshappenbeforethoughts,so whenyoucanchangethewaythatyoufeelaboutthesethings,you'llfindthatit freesthingsup. Bytheway,you'renotalone,Belinda.Ihadanxietylikethat.Alotofthevery successfulexecsI'veworkedwith,samething.I'mlike,"Youhavetodoheart ratevariabilitybreathing,anditfreesuphugeamountsofenergy."'Causeall thecyclesyouwentinto,totryandcounteryouremotionswithrationality,if theemotionsjustcalmdown,allthatextraenergythatyouwereusingtotry andcontrolyourselfisnowfreeforyoutodowhateveryouwant.That'sthat changingtheenvironmentinsideyourself. Andofcourse,there'samitochondrialangletothistoo.Whenyou'reless anxious,yourmitochondriagointorepairmodemorethantheygointofight-orflightmode. Dr.Mark: I'malsogonnagiveyouacoupleoftoolsyoucanuseaswell.So,Dave,you mentionedaboutthealmost,atonelevel,thefutility,eventually,ofjust focusingonthecognitivelevel,todealwithsomethingthatisfundamentally experiencedinthebody,andisrootedintheemotions. Sohere'saprocessIteachtoallmypatients.It'sreallysimple.Allyoudoisthat, anytimeyou'restressedorcaughtupinanxiety,youtakeyourattentionoffthis story.There'sanarrativethataccompaniesit.Youturnyourattentioninside yourbody,andyoulocatewherethestuckemotionis,orthetensionor heavinessinsideyourbody.Itwillbeinyoursolarplexus,yourchest,orinyour throatthemajorityofthetime. Thenhere'swhatyoudo.Yousilentlysaytoit,"I'mpleasedyou'rehere,"and youbreathe.Andwhathappens,youshiftfromfightingthisemotion,goinginto yourheadtoescapeit,toturningtowardsit,andopeninguptoit,andfacingit. Thenthisistherealkeybit.Youthengetasenseofwherethattrappedenergy, 'causethat'sjustwhatanxietyis,isjusttrappedenergy,yougetasenseof whereitwantstoexityourbody. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 15 of 18 'Causeallenergywantstoflowthroughyourbody.Doesitwanttocomeout yourmouth?Downyourarmsorlegs?Outofyourhead?Andallyoudois,you justpatientlystaywithit,getasenseofwhereitwantstoexit,andyou're gonnabeblownaway,'causewhat'sgonnahappenis,it'sgonnastartmoving. It'llprobablymoveupandoutofyourmouth. Andwhathappensis,youstartallowingthisenergytopouroutofyou.Thenas theenergypoursout,theanxietycomesout,thattrappedenergynolonger fuelstheoverthinkingthatperpetuatestheanxiety.You'vegonetosomeofthe rootsource. Now,here'sanothertoolaswell.It'scalledtensionreleasingexercise.Wehave builtintoourphysiology,aninnateprocessforshakingoffstressandtrauma. It'scalledneurogenictremoring.Now,ifyouseeawildanimalthathasescaped beingattacked,whatwillhappenautomaticallyisitwillnaturallyand involuntarilystartshaking.Then,aboutaminutelater,itwillcontinueitslifeas thoughnothinghappened.Itbasicallyshakesitoff.Weallhavethatwithinus. Nowthisprocess,tensionreleasingexercise,youcanlookupthatonthe internet.There'sloadsofvideosonit. DaveAsprey: I'llshootavideoaboutthat.That'sagoodidea. Dr.Mark: Yeah,itwouldbe.Ithinkthatwouldbeareallygreatservice.Itteachesyouhow toactivatethisnaturaltremoring,andIteachalittlebittomyclients,aversion ofit.Itjustdischargesallofthisenergy,allowingyournervoussystemtocalm itselfdown,becauserightnow,yournervoussystemisonhighalert. Everythingwe'resuggestinghere,calmingthebiology,restoringmitochondrial function,providingrelaxingmineralsandherbs,anddischargingthetrapped energy,comingoutofunhelpfulstory,allofthatwillmoveyouintheright direction,buthere'sthekey.Sometimes,whenwefeelsoanxious,itfeelstoo muchtodo.Wegetoverwhelmed,sostartwithoneortwothingsfirst.Takeit onedayatatime.Chartyourprogress,intermsofyourmood,yourenergy, yourfocus,andwhatpeoplethinkaboutyou,andyou'llfindyou'llstartheading intherightdirection.You'llfeelempowered,'causeyou'regoingtocometo realizelike,"Wow,IcanmassivelyinfluencethewayIfeel,accordingtohowI workwithmybiologyandmypsychology.I'mincharge." DaveAsprey: It'sapowerfulthing,andIbelievethefirsttimeIcameacrossthisneurogenic tremoringthingwasinthebookcalled,OnCombat,orOnKilling,whichisavery preciselookatfirstresponders.SWATteams,firemen,peopleinthemilitary, lookingatwhathappens,measurably,inthenervoussystemwhenpeoplearein theseextremesituations. Thosebookshavechangedthelivesofliterallytensofthousandsoffirst responders,becausetheymapoutwhathappens.Strangething,someonewet BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 16 of 18 themselvesinfear,that'sactuallyabiologicalresponse,andsoldiers,before theygoin,iftheydon'tpeebeforecombat,there'sagoodchanceit'llhappen.It happensforbiologicalreasons. Oneofthethingsthattheauthorofthatbook,whosenameIbelieveis...Isit Grossman?Isthat?I99%rememberthat.Italkedaboutnotforgettingthings, but,rememberingthenamesofauthorsofbooksisn'toneofmystrongspots.I believeit'slike,LieutenantColonelGrossman,ifIrememberright.Anyhow,On Combat,andOnKillingarethenamesofthosebooks. Hewritesabouthowwildanimalsdothis,andhow,whenmembersofthe militarygointoareallyhigh-stresssituation,thatafterwards,theyhavetogo exercise,orjusttheshakingthingcanwork,butsometimestheyneedtogeton atreadmillforalittlewhile,justtodumpalloftheadrenalhormones,andto justallowtheirbodytocalmdown.Andthatiftheydon'tdothat,they'restuck intheseextremesituations. ThekindofanxietythatBelinda'sfeelingisprobablynotthatextreme,and probablyisn'tgoingtorequireaworkout,justthatshaking-it-offthingcanbea reallypowerfulreleasingtechnique. Dr.Mark: Great!Well,wehopethathelpsyou,Belinda,andanyoneelsewhoalso experiencesanxiety.Alotofpeopleexperienceanxiety,butthere'ssomuchyou cando. DaveAsprey: Well,Dr.Mark,Ithinkweansweredsomereallygoodquestions.Wecovereda tonofthings,bothfrommitochondriaallthewayto,howdoyoureprogram what'sgoingoninyourhead,whichwillhaveaneffectonthestresslevelsof themitochondria. Let'sendthisshowhere,and,forpeoplelistening,ifyouhaven'thadachance topre-orderthebook,Headstrong,youcanpickituponline,youcangotoyour favoritebookseller,andifyougetitbeforeApril4th,yougetaccesstoabunch ofbonuses,includingareallyvaluablecoupon,ontheBulletproofstore,which almostpaysforthebook,inanofitself. SoI'dinviteyoutocheckitout.Ifthisshow'sbeenhelpfulforyou,andalso,if youleavea5-starrating,I'dreallyappreciateit.Itjusttakesaboutmaybe10 secondstogotoiTunes,whereyoumayalreadybelisteningtothis.Giveusa thumbs-up,andthathelpsotherpeoplefindit. Already1,500peoplehavegivenBulletproofRadioathumbs-up.We'vewona WebbyAward,andhavesomewherearound50milliondownloads.Thisisan amazingthingforme,justbecauseit'sasigntomethattheshowisdoingwhat it'smeanttodo,whichistohelppeopleandtodogood. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 17 of 18 It'sconsumedmorethan100lifetimesofhumanlife,ifyoujustlookatthe numberofhoursofpeoplelisteningtotheshow,whichmeans,Ihope,thatit's reallydoinggoodforyou.Becauseifnot,thenI'mkindofamass-murdererand thatwouldbebad. So,ifyoulikeit,tellafriend,leaveagoodrating,andpickupacopyof Headstrong.Thankyou. Dr.Mark: Thankyou. BPR-DrMark-HeadStrong1 Page 18 of 18
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