GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 of the Oral History Projectof GLHSNC 973 Market Street, #400 San Francisco, CA 94103 Telephone (415) 777-5455, #1 Interview with Hal Call Date of Birth: Not Stated By Jim Breeden, One Tape On Not Dated VOICES GLHS OHP #95-106 Hal Call were trying to do with the publication. Well, Mattachine Society started as Mattachine 2 HC: 3 Foundation founded by Henry Hay, or Harry Hay, Harry 4 Hay in Los Angeles and some of his associates in 1950. 5 And discussion groups were formed in Los Angeles and 6 the idea of discussions groups and so on got carried up to Berkeley and near the campus of the University of California in late 1952, and we heard about it in January, 1953 here in San Francisco, a few of us gay 7 8 9 10 = Tape One, Side One, Counter 000-099 11 people and people who were curious about our 11 1S1:000-099 12 IS2:ooo-o99 = Tape One, Side Two, Counter 000-099 12 13 13 14 Tape One, Side One ISl:000-099 homosexuality and were going to some of the few gay bars in San Francisco at the time, because that was the only kind of social setting that was recognized, 14 other than inviting known gay friends to your 15 HC: Well now, the crux of what you're or the focus of 15 what you're trying to do is, for your newsletter now, 16 apartment for small group activities and parties on weekends or things like that. JB: Right, small social circles. 16 17 is what? 17 JB: Well, I'm trying to capture an image of what it 18 19 20 was like being gay in San Francisco during the '50s, and in particular I'm focusing on the literature and 20 21 by that I mean books and magazines and newspapers, and 21 22 23 what was available then and what kind of influence 22 they had on people when they were available. And in 23 24 particular for you, I just wanted for you to talk a 24 25 little bit about the Mattachine Review and what you 18 19 25 brought over and started, started some discussion Page 2 Independent. newspaper, and then sold my interest in that in 1950 and went to work for the Kansas City Star and National Advertising, and left the Kansas City Star in August of 1952, and moved to San Francisco. But my background was newspaper work, journalism, Page 1 1 groups, or a discussion group, in San Francisco in 1 2 2 4 February, 1953. JB: How did you first hear about the Mattachine Society? 5 HC: 6 7 that had been to some of the gay friends. JB: It was a mouth to mouth thing. 8 Yes, oh yes, there were no, there was no, there was only one gay publication at that time in North America and that was ONE Magazine in Los Angeles, founded in 1952. All right, so we got some discussion 3 9 10 11 Well, I just We heard about it from people HC; There were no social set-ups essentially. And the number of gay bars were limited and they were, of course, harassed regularly by people from Alcoholic Beverage Control Department and by San Francisco Police. So, the Mattachine Society got started and there were the discussion groups came to Berkeley in early 1953, we heard about it and we brought some, HC: 3 4 5 6 7 advertising, public relations. And Mattachine, at that time, was, it needed public relations in the 8 9 telling others about it was the only way we could 10 11 12 groups started, meetings, started and ah we were 12 13 meeting in a facility on Sutter Street owned by the 13 14 American Friends Service Committee, the Quakers. They worst, worst way. That was the only thing ... by promote the idea of what we were set up to do and that was to eliminate harassment and discrimination against homosexual males, mainly, because they were the ones in trouble. Nobody was pursuing the lesbian at that time and the males in our government and legislatures and so on, didn't even know that lesbians could have 15 let us, they let us have the space on, like on 14 15 16 Thursday evenings, once a month for a discussion group 16 17 and that was the first of the, you might say, 17 JB: 18 formalized meetings of gays in San Francisco. We ran, 18 19 my background, my personal background is a, I'm an advertising major and journalism graduate from the University of Missouri, and I had had some newspaper background. I owned half interest in a rural Missouri 19 he So we needed a publication and heard then, and learned then that One, Inc. had been founded in 1952 20 in Los Angeles. The founders of One, Inc. were former 21 members of the Mattachine Foundation in Los Angeles and we knew that the Mattachine down there needed a publication and they wanted to be independent of the Mattachine discussion group people. And, and so they formed One, Incorporated. And One Incorporated is a 20 21 22 23 24 25 22 weekly newspaper in 1948 or '47. And then ah 23 purchased the publisher's interest in a small town 24 daily in Walsenburg, Colorado, The Daily World 25 Page 3 sexual activity with each other. Right, they were nearly invisible. Page 4 Page 1 - Page 4 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 8 separate entity to publish One Magazine. Well, we almost did the same thing here. We, I ah, I'm the leader who created the Mattachine Review and we, in November, 1954, we formed a business entity separate from Mattachine Society and bought a printing press, an offset litho, a small offset lithograph printing press, and materials to compose and do the paste-up artwork and plate making, and all that printing of 9 this little 32-page magazine, Mattachine Review, which 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 we scheduled to come out in January, 1955, and which did, and became a monthly and was published monthly for ah, through March, 1967, just a little over twelve years. We wanted the printing press to be separate from the Mattachine Society and not owned by the Mattachine Society because Mattachine Society here, at that time, 1 2 Mattachine publication, namely the Mattachine Review. 3 day and operates now under the name Grand Prix Photo 4 5 Arts and the Circle J Cinema and Adonis Video, subsidiary operations as we are, they are continuing 6 now are, of course, follow right down from Pan Graphic Press. And so it was created in 1954 to publish 8 Mattachine Review and which we started doing in 1955. 9 It, Mattachine Review, it was the second gay publication in North America. JB: After ONE.. HC: Now, your ah, to your ah, statement in the beginning about other publications and the ways of spreading information and so on, there were none, absolutely none when we started. JB: ONE was the only one. He: One, Incorporated has its ONE magazine, a little 32-page magazine the same size as Mattachine Review and we created another, and we had to really struggle for material, or search for appropriate material to put in it. We wrote some of the articles and we wrote 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 was a membership organization, and members elected a 17 board of directors, and if they owned, whatever 18 19 property they owned, why, we knew that, we knew that 19 20 the newest wave of new members could move the property 20 21 wherever they wanted to do, wherever they wished to do, and voted to do. So that made, that would make our printing facility subject to the whim of what I say the new, the newest wave of new members. So we formed Pan Graphic Press in 1954 to publish the Page 5 21 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Pan Graphic Press, incidentally, is surviving to this 7 18 22 Hal Call 22 23 24 25 And in connection with from the beginning, I have 1 never, never have sailed in the gay scene under false 2 colors or a pseudonym although I did use a pseudonym 3 4 for some of the articles I wrote. The reason for that is I thought it was a . . . I thought it sort of ill 5 behooved an editor of a magazine to write one, two, 6 three or four articles in it, each issue, and make it 7 simply his, a shadow of his own ego or his own 8 concerns. So we did use some bylines that were 9 pseudonyms. But ah, we assigned articles and we've 10 11 asked people in the Behavioral Sciences at the time, some of the psychiatrists, the psychiatrist and 12 psychologists and some of the other spokesmen, 13 attorneys, you know, and be concerned with defending 14 people accused of lewd and vague conduct, which was 15 the way the - ah, the vague lewd laws which the courts 16 used and the police used at that time. Material for 17 Mattachine Review is very hard to come by, but we 18 managed to make it, make it go, and to fill it out. I 19 mean, we started to get letters from readers and 20 commentaries from various readers. We mailed it in 21 plain envelopes, sealed, first class, and it never had 22 any problems except it was difficult thing to get it 23 off the ground in order to make it pay for itself, at 24 fifty cents a copy. Ah, we had, the largest 25 Page 7 them sometimes under, under pseudonyms, although as editor of the magazine, I used my name in it from the beginning. lSI: 100-199 Page 6 circulation we ever had was around two thousand copies nationally. We had a few book stores, City Lights in San Francisco was one that would carry it at the time. And that book store is still in existence. JB: Yeah. Was that, I understand that was ... HC: Ask Fern Angetti, you know, Fern Angetti knows, knows about it. He carried it, yeah. Ah, I'm sure that's one of the few places where you could actually pick up gay materials, even though they were ... HC: Well, there weren't a lot of gay materials at that time. Just remember, there were no other materials, gay materials, period. 18: Well, I'm, I'm speaking of like ... JB: HC: Now, we've got such an over, such an avalanche of it that no one person on Earth can afford, can ever achieve a thing of reading it all. And we've also, the pie has been sliced so thin here locally, we've got four so-called gay publications, two weeklies and two semi-monthly or bi-weekly. We need only one good publication period. We've had in the last sixty days, three new four-color slick magazines created. We have the other national monthly magazine, The Advocate, or bi-weekly magazine, The Advocate. And we've had some new ones coming out now monthly, all of them Page 8 Page 5 - Page 8 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society Hal Call GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 soliciting the advertising dollar from gay merchants 2 over the country, but rather in the area or region, 3 because they've discovered that there is a gay market now, and the advertising agencies, a lot of them, are playing to it and some national products, consumer products, not just gay products, but general consumer products, are starting to advertise to the gay market, 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 in the sphere of spirits and vodkas and so on, and things of that sort. And now the pie is becoming, is becoming so thinly sliced that we're going to see some 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 failures in these publications because they can't survive. JB: Right, there's so much competition. 13 HC: The competition is too great and they won't 14 survive. Like here, like in the last two weeks, I 15 received initial copies of two new gay monthly 16 magazines. And I don't think either one of them will be around for a year. Then I saw another not long ago entitled Oblivion ah, printed on newsprint type stuff, had a little magazine thing free, throwaway, for . .. beginning. JB: Well, I noticed here like, well, James Barr appears a lot. HC: Well, there's some gay authors, yes. But James Barr wasn't writing articles for monthly magazines. JB: Right. HC: Ah, he wrote Contrafoil and ah we had the book, The Homosexual In America by a pseudonym author from Great Britain. JB: Right. ah, we, you didn't publish installments from those publications in the magazines, we didn't try to 19 do that. But now and then we found ah somebody, a gay 23 publication was in value. That was its first issue, 23 24 25 and as far as I know, it was also its last. So okay. 24 25 those days in the '50s, late '50s and throughout the '60s. And ah, but the Mattachine was creating its, HC: We had to, we had to essentially create it in the HC: And 20 21 Oblivion because Oblivian was exactly what that 22 Ah, talk a little bit about the, the difficulty Page 9 HC: We had to create it. Difficulty, no need to talk about it, there wasn't any material. JB: Well, as far as (both speak at once) 17 18 And I don't know why anyone would name a publication JB: you had culling material for the Mattachine Review and author, a gay poet or someone like that. Alan Ginsberg wrote a poem for us in the early monthly, somewhere in the early issues of Mattachine Review, and ah, he was in San Francisco then and we were sort of, we were sort of shoulder to shoulder informally with that sort of so-called beat generation, back in Page 10 1 2 It's the biggest untruth there is. 1 2 3 4 5 like its own little publication and its meetings and 3 wanted to ask you about. discussion groups and its annual conference. Well, we 4 had, we scattered them across the country. We had 5 West Coast before Stonewall. 6 annual conferences in the late '50s in Denver and 6 J8: 7 8 around 1960 we had one in New York, and we've had them is that ah, that the world is divided in between postStonewall and pre-Stonewall with Stonewall being the demarcation point. So, what's your debate on this? HC: Stonewall, Stonewall is the point where enough gays were penalized in New York City in a situation that galvanized them, and the idea of doing something about it. There were opportunities before for things like that to happen in New York but it didn't, because 7 10 8 were making good friends in places like Washington, 9 DC, Frank Kameny, and Miami, Richard Inman. And 10 11 anyhow, so in New York, and the New York group, which 11 12 was near, the New York that heard about Mattachine and 9 in Los Angeles and here in San Francisco. And ah, we 13 took up the torch of it. It never was really friendly 12 13 14 to the San Francisco and Los Angeles element of 14 15 16 17 18 Mattachine, because New Yorkers don't really realize 15 this but no sociological movement of significance has 16 ever, was ever generated in New York City in the last 17 two hundred years. 18 19 JB: 20 21 22 HC: They've been generated elsewhere, and in the 20 Mattachine idea and the homosexual freedom idea was 21 generated on the west coast of North America, not in 22 23 New York City. Although New York now likes to claim 23 24 25 that the gay movement started with ah Stonewall, which 24 25 Really? 19 is the biggest crock of bullshit you could ever have. Page 11 IB: Well, actually that's one of the questions that I HC: 'cause we were going twenty-five years on the Oftentimes, you know, common thought these days New York has always been so saddled with, with corruption. ISI:2oo-299 Corruption in the gay bar scene and everything else. The gay bars were there years before, paid off and maybe owned by crime syndicate entities. JB: Not just the police. HC: No, that's not the police, the police were corrupt too, there was police corruption. But the crime syndicates were the ones that took over. They recognized the money element of the gay community, gar Page 12 Page 9 - Page 12 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society Hal Call GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ~n. say, not revolution - through education and JB: information being disseminated and we were making 1 SO do you think they were behind running the bars 2 in San Francisco during that time? HC: No, they never were. JB: They never were here? He: No, nor were they ever in Los Angeles. Las Vegas is different; they're there. JB: But you think on the East Coast. . . 3 4 5 6 7 8 On the East Coast, they always had control of 9 them, and in Chicago. And there were gay bars in all 10 11 those places, but crime syndicates were blowing the hom and running the shows in New York: and Chicago. 12 And that was, therefore, it wouldn't spill out into 13 any eruption of consequence until the Stonewall raid 14 and the protest against it in 19 what '79, or '69. 15 18: Ah, '69 was the date. A lot of the images that, 16 you know, were told about what gay life was like back 17 in the '50s, whether they were very, it was very dark, 18 oppressive kind of times and ah . . . 19 HC: You just had to be very, what, semi-secret or 20 most, almost secret, and very low key and ah you 21 didn't go, go around shouting it. You didn't do it! 22 But there was effort being made here on the West Coast 23 and some other parts of the country to break down that 24 resistance through the process of evolution, you might 25 HC: efforts to create entities and new publications where in 1964, Society for Individual Rights came into being, sort of as a protest against some of our policies in the Mattachine. And it was a very good organization and it was key to the idea that all work in the organization had to be done by volunteer workers without salary, without pay. And, of course, that is a formula, a formula that will not work in this kind of sociological effort if you're going to do anything of consequence. Because the reason it won't work is a new group of people who discover, I'd say, their homosexual orientation and are uncomfortable with it will hear about an organization like the Society for Individual Rights or Mattachine. They will come to our organization with their, their problems about their homosexual orientation and acceptance of it. And in an effort to improve their own generally low self-esteem at that point because they'd been either caught in a toilet or some place by the police or they'd lost ajob because they found, their employer found out they were gay or something and, back in those days. And they would come to the Mattachine and Page 14 Page 13 1 SIR and in their, in their meeting other similar 1 god, it was forty-five dollars income a week then. 2 3 4 homosexuals that were into the same processes or had been through the same processes and so on, their selfesteem rose and all that, and then they made their way out of the organization. It was fluid thing, people 2 3 4 5 always has been that if you want a good paid, or a good executive director for an organization, he's got coming in and going out. JB: Coming in, and what did they get out of the Mattachine Society? 6 7 8 job, he's got to receive some full time pay in order to live and survive. That was the main difference in They learned that we in the Mattaehine regard homosexuality as something that was just different from heterosexuality only in the choice of sex object, love object. And that homosexuals were people too. And we did the things that helped the individual who 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to be something, but it was entirely voluntary, 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 HC: was in, you might say, a psychological, a cyclical phase of himself to increase his own self-esteem and accept his own sexual, sexual identity. Then he could move out into society and function again, see? And that's why we had people in and out of the organization. But SIR came along in 1964 and created a little monthly magazine called Vector which was very good during the period that it ran. But SIR sort of ran its course because they would never pay salaries to anyone directing the organization. Well, we had created our own Pan Graphic Press which did the printing for Mattachine. We did it at a loss. My Page 15 And ah, but we did, we did and my theory or my feeling to receive - if he's going to give full time to the concept between Mattachine and SIR. SIR was conceived volunteers and voluntary and no individual was paid, and no individual was ever paid a salary in SIR. JB: Yes, I talked to Jose Serria too. HC: Jose Serria, he had nothing to do much with SIR, or at least Jose Serria was an entertainer and we don't ah, there at Pan Graphic Press, we did printing time and again for Saul Stoumen, owner of the Black Cat Bar where SIR was, where Jose was an entertainer. Jose and I are firm and lasting friends and friends of long standing. Our friendship goes back to October, 1952. But Jose was not active in the organizations, Mattachine or SIR, no, he was not. 18: How do you spell Stoumen? I just want to get .. HC: S-T-o-U-M-E-N, Saul Stoumen. And Saul and his attorney - I can't think of the attorney's name right Page 16 Page 13 - Page 16 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP #95-10', San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 now, it'll come to me - ah, the Alcoholic Beverage Control Department knew his Bohemian bar was a homosexual bar and they were determined to get his license, and so the various operatives would come in there and get acquainted and walk out of the front door with somebody and there on the street in front of 3 4 the place, the somebody they walked out with had been 7 sort of led conversationally into making a proposition to the person that took them out there, from the ABC 8 9 1 2 5 6 10 or whoever, undercover agent, and they made an arrest. 10 11 And that arrest counted against the license of the bar, the Black Cat. So they had Saul Stoumen and the Black Car Bar and his license in the courts from about 1956 or so clear up to - well no, it was even before that I think. I think the litigation covered a period of fifteen years about, before they finally got the license in about 1964 and closed the Black Cat Bar. 151:300-399 Once the, once the Alcoholic, Alcoholic Beverage Control Department received a defeat in the court - oh incidentally, Lawrence Dirk, Mr. Lowenthal was his 11 21 attorney, L-Q-W-E-N-T-H-A-L. And we did, we printed 22 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 5 scene and we were, well, the homosexual movement had, 6 it had, it was dry behind the ears and going and growing. JB: You think that the Mattachine . . . 3 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 extensive briefs to defend the Saul Stoumen 23 accusations that came down time and again, and 24 Lowenthal and Stoumen won the cases as they went 25 Page 17 Well, now, the Mattachine Review, let me say this, it was a pioneer publication and it did pioneer work in the, up until about 1963 or '64, because by then we were, other entities were coming onto the 1 2 12 13 HC: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 the Address Book in 1963. I should have owned half of 10 it but I don't. I composed and printed it on my 11 printing press the first three years of the Address 12 Book. Okay. We were the ringleaders in creating the 13 Council on Religion and the Homosexual in 1964 because 14 of my connection with Mattachine. And Reverend Ted 15 MacIlhenna of the Glide Methodist Church here 16 (mumbles) and other clergymen. That's the first time 17 He: We had, we helped Bob, I helped Bob Damron create that we were able to ah attract the attention of clergymen from established and recognized denominations, Protestant denominations, no Roman Catholics, so that we could ride on the shirt tails of some preachers. Then, when that happened, we had clergymen speaking for us and about us. That attracted the serious attention of the newspapers and magazines and the radio and television industries, Page 19 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Hal Call along, and ABC couldn't stand it. So as soon as they got one turned down or one, you know, Saul got one acquittal after another, why, boom, they were right after him again. And always charging that they were not using entrapment proceedings, which they were. They were, now, there's where the greatest corruption in California law enforcement was located, in our view, was those police practices of that time. Well, this is before we had drugs. It's before we had all the third world population that is, that overwhelms us now. Before we had all the influx, influx of illegal Asians and illegal Latinos and illegal Africans and so on in our midst. It's before we had grocery carts and homeless on the streets. We didn't have grocery carts, so the street homeless were made possible by the invention and the wide spread introduction of shopping carts in grocery stores. That's what helped, that was the great impetus in the homeless movement. You don't think of it that way, do you? JB: I never thought of a grocery cart being such a . HC: You wouldn't think of it that way, but that's what made it possible, but anyway. Yeah, getting back to the Mattachine for a second JB: Page 18 communications industries. JB: SO actually, the impression I get while I'm talking with you too as far as your philosophy as far as what you were trying to do with the Mattachine Review, was really getting the word out there. HC: Getting the word out and start to opening doors to let the general public know that there is a homosexual minority of people that want recognition and they want an end of discrimination and unjust legal practices and the like. JB: Was that behind the philosophy of the Mattachine Review too as far as the reason why you began, the publication began. HC: Yes, in the first issue, the principal article dealt with the, with the evil of the vague, so-called lewd-vague statute, 607 (sic) or whatever it was. And we meet, we accomplished that and really in the concept of our Mattachine Society back in 1950, the early '50s, our, our idea stated and our aims and principles stated that we hoped that the time would soon come when we could go out of business. And essentially we did, went out of business by 1967, about the same time SIR did, and about the same time the Council on Religion and the Homosexual had run its course. And about the same time the Daughters of Page 20 Page 17 - Page 20 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Bilitis had run their pioneer course. Incidentally, 1 the first issue of The Ladder, the monthly magazine of 2 the Daughters of Bilitis by Phyllis Lyon and Del 3 Martin, I printed them on my printing press again, Pan 4 Graphic Press was the company set up to do that and 5 one of the only print shops in town, probably, that 6 would print the stuff. 7 18: Do you think, when you say run its course, 8 HC: We had achieved our main mission. 9 JB: Which was? 10 HC: Which was recognition and ah, letting the world 11 know, doing this to make, creating some awareness for 12 the general public. 13 JB: And then what was the next step? 14 HC: Well, it was the Diaspora of other organizational 15 entities being founded by one person and another for 16 this special interest or another, or for the ego or 17 another. And the world is, the history of the gay 18 movement is filled with individuals who have corne 19 forward with the promise of unifying all of the gay 20 movement organizations into one organization with 21 themselves at the head of it. I can probably, I can 22 go back into history and I could name you fifteen or 23 twenty such organizations that were created by 24 individuals who wished to see it unified with 25 Page 21 20 unnecessary. And it's a form of protest that is arrogant and I think hard to accept on the part of the general public. JB: SO you don't like it. HC: It's not necessary. Then the second is the division of ah, in the gay movement, by gender. Utterly fruitless, wasteful and unnecessary. That's been pushed by nobody but the lesbians. If a lesbian is writing or speaking, she speaks of the gay, of the lesbian and gay movement. If a man is writing and speaking now and going into publications like our weekly newspapers and all that, he has to refer to the gay and lesbian movement. Whoever is speaking, the gender of whoever is speaking or writing is first listed, and it's nonsense. It's redundant, disgraceful, and it shows a division within the movement that weakens it. 1B: Now, about back in the '50s, and the relationship between gay men and lesbians. . . HC: The lesbians were not on the scene (phone rings). 21 They didn't have the problem. They weren't known or 21 22 recognized in society yet. And so many of the legislators in our various states didn't feel that it was possible for one female to have sexual activity with another. They were that ignorant. Page 23 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 23 24 25 Hal Call themselves at the head of it. Yeah. And as soon as they got their ego satisfaction out of the thing, boom, they fade out of the roll call, they fade out, with a few exceptions. Frank Kameny in New York is one them that really stayed on back in New York. And we have here, the Mattachine Society is still alive essentially. It's a working committee, permanent committee, and I'm still the executive director. And if anybody else comes along and wants to take over as executive director, fine, come right in, lay a hundred thousand dollars on the table and take over. But bring the cash. I don't want your ideas, man, I've had, I've had forty-two years of ideas thrown at me. I don't need any more ideas. I know the ideas, and I don't like some of the directions some of the things are taking nowadays. ISI:400-499 JB: Like what, for instance? HC: Well, there are two things that I don't like. I don't like so many organizations coming in and ah, organizational entities and individuals coming forward, and thinking that they're going to make points by calling themselves and everybody like them or close to them, queer. The overuse of the word queer is negative to our purpose in my view, and it's Page 22 1 18: Within the, with the gay underground, gay 2 movement, and within the gay men in themselves, was there any kind of contact? HC: Well, of course, we knew lesbians and they came to our bars and we had one or two lesbian bars in San Francisco up until here recently. Maude's is one of 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 them and some others, yeah. And we went to their bars and we actually had, and we had mutual cooperation and participation in our annual conferences and in our 10 educational and academic conferences that we sponsored 11 that we had at various times throughout the year. Because we had a lot of educational conferences where serious papers written by Ph.D's and so on were, were read and those things made their way into Mattachine 12 13 14 15 Review themselves. We sponsored those conferences to 16 create materials that we could use in the magazine. And ah, yes, we've always had cooperation, particularly on ONE Magazine. On ONE Magazine, 17 18 19 20 23 24 25 there's always been one or two women, lesbian women, that are high up on the staff, art direction, writing poetry and stories. But now, the lesbian, she can't write a lot of the material that we need in a male publication because she doesn't have the, the lesbian doesn't have a penis. Nor can the male who's writing about females, he doesn't have ... Page 24 Page 21 - Page 24 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 II 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 So for, I just want to make it clear. Was there 1 any material published by women in the Mattachine 2 Review? 3 HC: I think we, oh yes, we had material written by 4 women, but they were researchers and sociologists and 5 so forth. Not, we didn't publish fiction. 6 18: Right. You were, you were just concerned more 7 with medical psychological material? 8 HC: Yeah, the behavioral science aspects of it and 9 the legal and sociological. 10 JB: The current issues and as far as the legal 11 battles. 12 HC: But the lesbian wasn't in trouble. She wasn't 13 being chased by the police because they didn't know 14 she existed or could have sex with each other. No, 15 she was invisible. Now, we didn't know how many 16 lesbians there were in our midst, but we knew there 17 were a lot of them. They didn't know either. Phyllis 18 and Del didn't. Now we were always close with Del 19 Martin and Phyllis Lyon, the founders of Daughters of 20 Bilitis. They've been close personal friends of mine 21 since 1955, see? 22 JB: Oh, I didn't, before this, I, I remember hearing 23 that the Mattachine also operated a library. 24 HC: We did have a, we had a significant library at 25 Page 25 JB: of Curators for the Library of Congress in this collection of erotology that is in formation at this date. And here are forty-four hundred cassettes of gay erotic sex that are to go into it. But now, that's on the quiet because it's not finalized. JB: I see, all right. HC: Talk about it, but it's there. It's still, and the library, our original Mattachine library went to what is now the Institute of (inaudible) at Franklin, California. JB: Well, talk about the original library and how it operated then. HC: Oh, it was just a collection of books. It didn't operate like . . . JB: How extensive was it? HC: Oh, I expect we had, we probably had a couple three thousand volumes of things related to the gay subject (both speak at once). 18: Did people come in who were members and take books out and how did it operate? I 2 3 4 one time, but we donated that to ah, one of the things that grew out of Mattachine in our, in our contact with the Glide Foundation. Ted McElvain, after the, after the Council on Religion and the Homosexual ran its course in the late 1960's, started creating something that he called the National Sex Forum. And then he got involved with Doctors Phyllis and Newhart Kohnhausen and they got a, they created a museum, of sexological materials. They used to operate on Powell Street for a while. And out of the National Sex Forum, it evolved until now it has become the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality and it's a recognized academic institution that gives doctors' degrees to people who are sexologists, to people who have made studies in the field. And it's collecting erotology, erotological materials. Now, don't print anything about this though until you talk to Ted and his staff about it. But they're also collecting materials at the Library of Congress and the British Museum are seeking and they're wanting to acquire. And he's even working, they're even working at the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality to . . . IS 1:500-599 They're working to select people who will be a Board Page 26 It was very informal and it was, it was not that, it was not as extensive as I dare say they are trying to make the archives today. JB: Well of course. So you consider that sort of, it was a pretty minor, I mean, as far as the . HC: It was a minor aspect of it but then we had the, HC: 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 a Dorian Book Service, ah, gay books. We published catalogs way back in the 19, in the 1960's. Then we published what was called the Dorian Book Quarterly which was to fight censors. And ah, we reviewed 12 certain books. (reviewing books and papers) The Rhode 13 14 Island Battle on Censorship hits authoritarian dictate of the police. JB: SO you were part of national news? HC: Yes, well whatever we could, yes. JB: What kind of material did you publish? HC: And here's a little book we published that had four stories in it. And ah, it's called Four in a Circle. These are the covers of some of the early books that we published in Pan Graphic Press. JB: When did Pan Graphic Press start again? That was 19. HC: That was 1954, so it's past its fortieth birthday. Page 28 15 16 17 18 19 20 No, well, and yes, but we never got, we never had 21 enough, we never had, again, a paid staff to take care of that or operate it. And most of the books that are, that were taken out never got back. JB: Oh, it was a very informal ... Page 27 22 He: Hal Call 23 24 25 we had a Mattachine library, yes, and we had a, we had Page 25 - Page 28 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society Hal Call GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 1B: And how many books? 1 3 We published thirty-two little books, and ah, 2 here's - here's an article on Sex and Censorship. 3 4 There was a magazine that came out. It folded, but 5 the problem lingers, and that's what this article is 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 HC: HC: Well, we made a living at it, we were dedicated to it, and we also got our, did our best to do paperback at that time, by the Cohen House. If that 8 book came out today, why it would be four dollars and 9 training for, for gay bars and businesses as well as any little commercial printing that we could scare up from friends and various businesses. Ah, it was a, it was a living struggle. My, working full time, my salary or my wages were forty-five dollars a week in the last two years of the 1950's, and 1960. And my rent was a hundred and twenty-five dollars a month. JB: about. And Freedom to Read groups, and Pornography 4 6 and the Law, and oh, that was an eighty-five cent 7 JB: eighty-five cents, even in paperback. Well, that's at the low end, you know? 10 11 12 And my salary was forty-five dollars a week You were just barely scraping by. HC: Right, yes. Just barely. And ah, like I can 12 HC: Oh yeah, if it was a hard cover - we published, I 13 14 created, I created and designed and printed this in 13 1950, in 1960, second quarter, 1960. Okay. 14 15 JB: Yeah, I now laid out on computer, that's how I 16 layout the newsletter. 16 HC: Well we never had anything like that. 17 1B: Oh, it's fairly new. 18 HC: We did it on a, we did it on a, on a drawing 19 and I took over. We had some partners in the building, or in the business, and I took over from 17 18 19 20 15 remember one time when Pan Graphic Press and the Adonnis Book Store, we created and had on the other, moved up here in 1967 on Ellis Street. And had the Adonnis Book Store and it did very well. Ah, but ah, them in the late '60s, and at that time the Adonnis board with aT-square and our hardest thing in the 20 Book Store was twenty thousand dollars in debt. Well, 21 world was getting material, getting equipment to 21 22 compose the body type of the various articles. We 22 I worked to pay that off because that debt, that twenty thousand dollars then, was like a debt of a 23 didn't have what you've got now, no, no. 23 hundred and fifty thousand dollars would be today, you 24 1B: But it sounded like you had enough, you got 24 might say. And we'd gone on and we, we created what 25 enough revenue then to keep it going. is now the Circle J Cinema showing, showing active 25 Page 30 Page 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 sexual action films, gay films. 1S1:600-699 2 We started that in 1971 or '72. We've been doing that ever since so that's more than twenty years that we've been running the Circle J Cinema. And it's just about run its course. Because everybody's got VCR'S and the 3 4 5 6 1 intrigue and the interest in these gay movies are 7 coming out four or five a week. Seems like Palestine is over here producing them nowadays and trying to, 8 9 lesbian orientation far exceeds what we thought was the number or the figure or the percentage back in the 1950's and '60s. And ah we ah, we've had, we still have the media which, and the spokesmen for and the politicians who like to play down, minimize, the number of homosexuals in our midst, male and female, but we're finding out that the ten percent figure that we've had ever since Kinsey's book - and I knew Alfred Kinsey personally and was interviewed by him back in the '50s, and I do, I've known Doctor Palmroy, an 10 trying to milk the public for them. Anyway, it's 10 11 12 about run its course too. 'Cause we've got all kinds of gay masturbation parties and sex parties and so on 13 14 being advertised with no double entendres in the 13 language of the advertisement. They're specific. 14 Institute of the Advanced Study of Sexuality, and still is. He's still dean emeritus of it although 15 Jack Off Clubs, yes. It's too bad AIDS came onto the 16 scene and that's one of the things that has helped 16 promote the lesbian, the lesbian writing and 17 he's up in, way up in years. He and his wife have moved back to Bloomington, Indiana, and he's retired there and he's probably going to be, not be with us 17 11 associate of his in the male volume, I've known Doctor 12 Palmroy for thirty years. He was associated with the 15 22 recognition in the gay movement is the death of so 18 many of the young and active male editors and writers 19 and so on and leaders. 20 And other things, you know, the lesbians tied into 21 readily and were accepted by the women's movement that 22 18 19 20 21 23 came forward. That's another sociological thing 23 24 that's happened in our lifetimes, so that now we've 24 25 been fmding out that the number of women who have a 25 Page 31 for too much longer. But ah, the numbers of gays, they like to play down, and here a number or figure of two percent came out not long ago and oh, god damn, it pleased an awful lot of people in politics and congress and so on who said well these homosexuals have been bragging all these years about how many of them there are. Well, now we're finding out that the ten percent figure that Page 32 Page 29 - Page 32 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society GLHS OHP 1195-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 was, they got from the Kinsey studies is just certainly is as true today as it was then. And the advent of the Kinsey volume in 1948 was really the turning point in American society, in the American academic and behavioral science world, where we started paying attention to human sexual expression that had always been taboo before because, you see, in our system, in our culture, our culture is not antihomosexual. It is anti-sexual period. That's the Judeo-Christian taboo handed down. 18: Well, the Puritanical roots of this country. . . He: It all comes down to, it all comes down to religion, the Roman church and the Christian denominations also, Protestant denominations also. But it is Thou shalt not fuck and feel good ever. And so that's what we're really fighting today, is that anti-sexual taboo and it's Judeo-Christiaa in origin. And the most out of step institution on earth today, in terms of that, is the Roman Church. JB: Roman Catholic Church, yeah. ISI:7oo-706 He: They had to spend four hundred million in the last four, or few years, in the United States 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Hal Call sexual safety of our youngsters, and that's the Roman End of Side 1, Tape 1 - End of Interview 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 groups in our culture today when it comes to the 25 defending one of the most promiscuous and threatening Page 33 Page 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Page 35 Page 33 - Page 35 Not Dated GLBT Historical Society III - business Hal Call GLHS OHP #95-106, San Francisco Literature http://www.glbthistory.org -11#1 (lJ 1:5 #400(1] 1:3 #95-106 (1J 1:10 -''47(1] 3:23 '50S(8J 1:19 11:1 11:6 20:19 23:18 '60s(3J 11:2 32:3 '64(1J 19:3 '69 (2] 13:15 '72(lJ 31:3 '79(lJ J3:15 'CaUSe(2J 31:11 11:1 13:18 32:10 30:19 Adonis rn 181:400-499 rn 22:17 181:500-599 (lJ 26:24 181:600-699 (lJ 31:2 181:700-706 (lJ 33:21 182:000-099 (lJ I:J2 Adonnls m 30:16 30:19 Advanced (3J 26:22 32:13 advent rn -332-page(2J 6:18 13:16 5:9 -4415[1J 1:5 12:4 -6607 (lJ 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