Chat Transcript
January 19, 2011
Sandra Davis: Good evening! Welcome to the University of Michigan Medical School Chat - January 19, 2011
Arun-M1: Hey everyone! Welcome to the chat. Fire away!
Arun5_M1:
Hello guys, welcome to the chat!. FYI, there are two Aruns helping out tonight.
Crystal Azu: Good evening.
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Even though the first two years are pass fail, is there still an internal ranking?
Andrew, M1: Nope! M1 and M2 years are true pass-fail!
Anon.: How many deferred candidates are there, how many spots in the class, and what are the proportions of in/out
of state spots/candidates?
Jen-M1: There is no set number of deferred candidates, there are 350 acceptances for 170 spots and our class tends to
be 50/50 for in vs out of state
Kerri Lopez: Hi! I will start off with an easy one, i hope. For the interview, would it be appropriate to wear a suit and
skirt, or will I completely freeze? I am from Miami and admit to not having too much experience with cold weather..
Beth_M1: You can really wear whichever you are more comfortable with, but I would definitely wear nylons and keep in
mind that your legs might get slightly cold walking to and from the med school. I would definitely recommend shoes with
good traction to walk around Ann Arbor, though.
Crystal Azu: Does U Michigan give merit scholarships? And does it tend to be more for in state applicants?
Arun5_M1: yes. And not necessarily, they go to whoever the admissions team decides. In state vs. out of state
doesn't come into the decision too much at all.
Kerri Lopez: Okay, great. Thanks.
Brendan Guercio: Hello, thanks for holding this online chat. Could you tell us the number of Highly Desirable-February
Decision candidates and how many spots those candidates are competing for?
Director Ruiz: Brendan--don't know the numbers yet-we will after interviews conclude and we'll report at that time-thanks for being patient
Renik Delisser: Good evening everyone. For the M1s, could you briefly convey what your experience was like on the
day of the interview?
Andrew, M1: The interview starts off with an intro to the program by Robert Ruiz and the office as a whole. After that
you have 3 30-minute interviews, and then you learn more about the school and then get to meet current students for
lunch and a post-lunch tour. There are plenty of opportunities to ask questions to all different types of people at UM.
cecilia: Hi Everyone, thanks for hosting the chat. Can you give an update on where admissions stand? I'll be up there in
early Feb for an interview. Does U of Michigan have a set proportion of acceptances each month or another similar type
of system set up?
Jen-M1: Hi Cecilia. There are no set numbers for how many people they accept from each admission day. That being
said, you aren't at a disadvantage interviewing later. Personally, I was the last interview date last year and I think about
half of the people I interviewed got acceptances.
Beth_M1: And Kerri, during your interview day, you'll be inside the med school completely, so you won't have to worry
about freezing then or the type of shoes you wear.
Zieanna: Any M1s from a big city? How do you feel about living in a smaller town?
Meg- M1: I lived in Chicago for two years between undergrad and med school and feel that Ann Arbor has most of the
opportunities that a big city does. The only difference is no traffic!
Joe Papin: What is the housing situation like in Ann Arbor for summer leases when you have to begin looking in April?
Page 1 Allison M1: Most of my classmates live in the white coat area, which is a bunch of apartment complexes which are
occupied mostly by med students and people who work at the hospital and in Kerrytown which is a neighborhood right
next to the hospital. I started looking for housing in May and June and signed a lease in July which is a pretty typical
timeline
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Mr. Ruiz!
cecilia: Thanks, Jen. Hope that bodes well for me!
Jen-M1: You'll do great!
Tessa M1: Hi Zieanna, I am from Los Angeles and was a bit nervous about moving to Ann Arbor. However since I
moved here I have been very pleasantly surprised by how much I have loved Ann Arbor. There is actually quiet a lot to
do here and since University of Michigan is such a big school I definitely feel like there are a lot of people here. If you
have any more specific questions about this let me know.
MichRes: Do many, if any, of the MSTP students end up buying houses or condos? I've heard Ann Arbor real estate is
amongst the highest in the state?
Andrew, M1: Yes - I am a first year MSTP and I bought a condo this year. It depends on where you want to live - closer
to the school will be higher but many of my classmates also have purchased places on the many bus routes that can take
them to the med school (buses are free for students).
Renik Delisser: O.K. if you had to choose your favorite: House, M.D., Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, or Bostenmed?
or any that I neglected to mention.
Beth_M1: Private Practice...I also like the new one Off the Map.
Jen-M1: Grey's Anatomy. Loved the M1's on it last week
Tessa M1: BostonMed
Zieanna: As we begin the challenging experience of medical school, any words of advice or comfort to those who don't
have much family in the Ann Arbor area?
Arun5_M1: Sure. Medical school, at least here at Michigan isn't exactly the end of social life as you know it. My family
is about a 4-5 hour drive away. I basically have substituted them with friends up here. You get to know your classmates
extremely quickly with how much time you spend together. They become a great asset both to study during the week
and enjoying yourself after quizzing on the weekends.
Director Ruiz: Thanks for joining - what kind of questions do you have for us tonight!
MichRes: Thanks Andrew
cecilia: A question for the M1s - what about the school's program has been better than you had expected, whether it be
your classmates, curriculum, etc.?
Allison M1: I really enjoy my classmates and the culture at U of M. I was very pleasantly surprised to find that all the
students are really collaborative and not cut-throat at all, which is amazing because we work together all the time. I also
really like that our comments have ahuge impact on the courses and cirriculum. The administration really values our
comments and puts them into action.
Renik Delisser: Nice. All great options.
Brendan Guercio: I was curious, approximately what percentage of UMMS students receive a merit-based scholarship?
Director Ruiz: We anticipate that 45-55% of M1 students will likely be offered scholarships
Joe Papin: Is there parking on campus available for medical students?
Arun-M1: Parking is very limited for students near the med school campus. There is a lot of housing nearby though
and many of our classmates actually bike! Not to mention the bus systems are great!
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Mr. Ruiz
Brendan Guercio: That is quite an impressive number.
Meg- M1: Zienna- I would say that Ann Arbor is very similar to Bethesda and Cleaveland Park. It doesn't feel like a
"midwest" small town.
Page 2 Pierre Palo, Jr.: So, is it hard to get UM football tickets? Is there some kind of lottery?
SpencerM1: Every student that wants football tickets can purchase them. Our M1 seating group had front row seats this
year!
cecilia: Thanks, Alison, that's nice to hear.
Cassie: Hi. For the M1 and M2 years, what is the rough percentage of lecture vs. small group vs. self-directed learning?
Andrew, M1: Cassie, the majority of our learning is in lecture. We have small groups every couple weeks to go through
a relevant problem set, but it's not the main way things are taught. Outside, there are many resources for anatomy and
histology that help supplement the lectures. I am not a textbook reader, and don't feel compelled to do so to stay on top
of the material.
Joe Papin: Thank you, Arun
Kerri Lopez: I was a Microbiology major and nearly all of my science courses were micro related (so I never took
Anatomy). Would you all recommend that i take an anatomy course, or at least review a textbook, before medical school?
Arun5_M1: Not necessarily. The anatomy program here is tailored for new students obviously. I took anatomy during
undergrad but pretty much forgot everything. Having a background is obviously a plus but I wouldn't stress about it at
all.
Director Ruiz: We need questions--what's on your minds tonight?
Zieanna: Hi Tessa, thanks. I live in a suburb of DC now, and I really enjoy the convenience of the burbs matched with
the perks of the city. When you really need your "big city" fix, where do you go, and how do-able is that trip?
Tessa M1: Hi Zienna, other than going home to visit LA over the holidays, I haven't taken too many trips outside of
Michigen yet. However I so far I haven't felt a huge need to get out of Ann Arbor. I still feel like there is a lot left for me
to explore here, from the restaurants to night life spots. I really love that you can walk anywhere here and that you can
be close to school while at the same time being able to separate yourself from the med school. Also I've known
classmates who have taken weekend trips to Chicago.
Beth_M1: Kerri, I was a Micro major, and you'll will be fine without taking an anatomy course. They teach Anatomy as
though you've never had it before. That being said, if it interestes you, go for it!
Yih-Chieh: Where do rotations during M3 and M4 take place?
Jen-M1: Hi Yih- so the majority of our rotations occur at UofM hospital and the VA but there are opportunities to go
outside of the hospital system- you can do international rotations in your 4th year as well.
Renik Delisser: For those who've answered, would you agree or disagree with the notion that the media's portrayal of
the inner workings of a hospital, through medical dramas, is inaccurate? Is this the kind of publicity you would endorse
or condemn?
Allison M1: I feel like hospital dramas are not very accurate, but I feel like it does give some people unrealistic
expectations, but most probably understand that these medical dramas are in fact dramas and not documentaries.
MichRes: Director Ruiz, do you have any idea what % of incoming students will be from groups underrepresented in
medicine? Also, is there an active SNMA chapter?
Director Ruiz: I don't know those numbers until we finish interviews--yes, we have an active SNMA chapter!
Renik Delisser: thanks, Allison.
Yih-Chieh: Thanks Jen
Anon.: Are files re-reviewed post-deferral or are they assigned a score and added to a pool?
Arun-M1: Anon - Yes they are!
Crystal Azu: For you students- I would like to know "why Michigan?" in your own words. Especially in regards to what
you have really loved since you've come to Michigan.
Andrew, M1: I loved the place from the first time I got here to interview! The community of students (with the passfail) and the flexibility of the learning (flex-time quizzes, videotaped lectures) made it a great fit for me!
Joe Papin: How is Michigan's football team expected to play next year with the new coach?
Page 3 Arun-M1: they are rereviewd that is
Lisa: Hi everyone! How early on in your med school career do you get clinical exposure?
SpencerM1: Our third and fourth years are entirely clinical, but now as M1's we still get exposure to standardized
patients. In our second year we will get even more. Still, we all have the opportunity and time to shadow in the hospital
anytime we want. They are VERY welcoming
Renik Delisser: What is the most rewarding aspect of medical school right now? What keeps your driven/motivated?
Allison M1: I think that the thing that keeps me most motivated is the interweaving of clinically relevant information
into our lectures. We are all looking forward to getting on the wards, so it gives us a little insight into clinical medicine to
keep us interested.
cecilia: I'm a non-traditional applicant. I've been out of graduate school for several years. What is the average age
range of med students? Any sense of the % of non-trad students?
Meg- M1: Cecillia- I took two yeas off after undergrad and have found that I am right in the middle of the age group of
the students. I'd say around 50% of students took at least a year off and the average age is about 24.5.
Jennifer Kalil: Andrew, you mentioned that you have small groups every couple of weeks... can you please tell me more
about the small groups?
Andrew, M1: Yes, Jennifer - basically they are problem-solving sessions where you go through a set of questions with
the help of a group leader. There is usually a connection to the sequence, and it's helpful when there are some
physiology equations to learn.
cecilia: Thanks, Meg.
Andrew: What kind of life do students have outside of school? Are students involved in community service, intramurals,
etc?
Arun-M1: Andrew - Our students are very involved outside the classroom. We have great muscians and atheletes all
over the place. In fact we had a group of students play IM Water Polo last night. Plus, Last weekend we had a
music/dance show that showcased just how talented our class is.
Beth_M1: Crystal, there are so many reasons for me as to "Why Michigan?". The people you work with, the
cooperative atmosphere that pass/fail creates, Ann Arbor itself, the organ system based curriculum. In my opinion, the
UM faculty and admisitration do everything they can to take as much stress as possible out of the first two years and that
really shows in our social lives and ability to pursue outside interests.
Kerri Lopez: Thanks Arun and Beth! Medical students - how do you feel that Michigan prepares you for choosing the
right specialty?
Jen-M1: i Kerri. We are all just first years right now but it seems like people don't have any issue figuring out what they
want to do with the rest of your lives. Currently they hold weekly career seminars where they bring in different
specialities to talk to us and tell about their lives and how they chose it. In addition, our flexible lecture schedules allow
for a lot of time for shadowing if you want to check out a specific speciality before M3 year
Anon.: Are there specific circumstances which are required for a candidate to defer admission?
Director Ruiz: We offer these on a case by case basis--we are pretty liberal with allowing you to defer admission for one
year.
Brendan Guercio: I've read a lot about how UMMS integrates cutting-edge technology into its curriculum. In what way
do the M1s feel such technology has impacted their medical education the most?
Arun5_M1: Hi Brendan. That's actually a great question and one of the reasons I decided on UMich. Here everything
all lectures are taped, and next year they will be taped at a higher quality and the text will hopefully be made searchable
so you can jump to exactly where you need. Moreover, our anatomy curriculum heavily emphasizes online learning with
all pre-lab activities are online. Learning modules, clinical correlates, and evern pre-quizzes are done online. What's also
great is our testing format which is all done on medical campus computers (you will appreciate this when taking the
boards and also during histology questions when you can see a high quality digital picture rather than a photocopied
one). Also, UMMS is both Mac and PC based.
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Do students feel the six weeks alloted for Step 1 is sufficient? Do most students use up this entire time
or do they use one or two weeks for vacation?
Page 4 SpencerM1: Yes students definitely feel that the six weeks devoted to studying for Step 1 is sufficient. As a matter a
fact, some students do not even use the entire alloted time and allow themselves to have some vacation time. Ill also add
that our average Step 1 scores are two standard deviations above the national average
Yih-Chieh: What percentage of students who are not MD/PHD do research?
Tessa M1: Hi Yih, I would say that most of the med students do research in some capacity. The majority of the first
year students receive funding from SBRP to do research over the summer. I know there are also a lot of opportunities to
take an additional year to do research such as MCRIT. There are also a number of students who do research during the
year, including myself (our flexible schedule allows for that)
Arun5_M1: Also Brendan, the technology here makes life TONS easier in regards to the learning experience. Being able
to get things done on any computer anywhere using our servers is priceless.
michelle: do any of you know anything about the med student fraternities?
Allison M1: A few of my classmates live at the med student fraternities and really enjoy it. They like living near other
med students and it is a nice way to meet older med students as well. The meal plans are also a really good deal,
especially if you don't really want to cook.
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Arun, that sounds great!
Arun5_M1: no worries man.
Renik Delisser: What is the biggest contrast between medical school and undergrad? How are they different?
Jen-M1: Hi Renik. I think the major difference is the amount of material we are expected to know is definitely increased
from undergrad. Although, along with that, the material that we are being taught at one time is all related, so it isn't like
studying for 4 completely unrelated tests at one time. A definite improvement.
Zieanna: Any students have pets? I am strongly considering adding a rabbit to my current family of 1, but will
apartments/condos be bunny friendly? Will there be classmates, etc. around to bunny-sit when I go home?
Meg- M1: One of our classmates has a bunny and it's completely fine. Most of the apartments here are animal friendly,
and many students have dogs. Your growing family is definitely welcome!
MichRes: Silly question, but is the technology (streaming leacture, pre-lab material, ect) Mac compatible?
Arun5_M1: yup!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Wow! Thanks for the response Spencer.
Jessie Evangelista: What percentage of M1s reside off campus? Are there any benefits to living on campus, other than
the obvious proximity?
Andrew, M1: Michigan doesn't have any "on-campus dorms" like some schools in big cities. That being said, many
students live in a White Coat Area or Kerrytown, both about 10-minute walks from school. Those who don't live within
walking distance tend to live on bus routes (which you can ride for free); there are many buses that go around Ann
Arbor, so that's another option.
Arun5_M1: MichRes, UMMS is both PC and Mac based. All of our labs are split between the two.
Anna Coles: Are there lots of options for housing in areas close to the medical school campus?
Beth_M1: Yes! There are four complexes in the "White Coat Area" (10-15 min walk north of the med school), a ton of
houses and apartments in Kerrytown (5-20 min walk from med school), and the two medical school fraternities (one is a
5 min walk and the other is on a direct bus line).
Brendan Guercio: (1/19/2011 18:31) I know that the medical students have a fall ball and an annual musical parody of
the school. Are there other events that occur which bring the class together as a whole outside of the classroom?
Allison M1: (1/19/2011 18:31) We have a great dance and music show called Biorhythms which was this past weekend!
I was in a hip-hop routine to a Lady Gaga mash-up, haha. I was really impressed with my classmates talents!
Kerri Lopez: Okay thanks Beth! Glad to hear it.
Renik Delisser: Are there any activities you'd suggest doing during the summer immediately prior to matriculation? How
did you spend that summer?
Page 5 Jen-M1: Hi Renik. Definitely do something you have always wanted to do. I worked at my research lab for a little while
and then I went to Europe for three weeks to visit friends from study abroad. Then I spent my last two weeks spending
time with my family and just hanging out
Edward Larkin: How do you guys feel about the class size at Michigan? Is it a pretty tight-knit group?
Tessa M1: Hi Edward, I think the class size here is perfect. I know that a lot of med school classes are smaller, but
personally I can't imagine having a class smaller than 170. The whole class is pretty tight and often social events are
planned and sent out to the whole class.
Brendan Guercio: Haha, sounds like fun. Thanks Allison.
cecilia: What has been a tough adjustment, if any, for the first years?
Andrew, M1: There's a lot more self-directed learning in terms of reading lecture materials over. For me, undergrad had
a lot of problem sets with specific due dates, but here you have your quizzes. So in that sense it's an adjustment. On the
plus side, you can structure your time with MUCH more flexibility than in undergrad.
Kerri Lopez: If i were to want to take classes in the school of Public Health, would I be permitted to do that without
entering the MPH program?
Beth_M1: Yes! AS a UofM med student, you can take one class per semester outside the med school free of charge.
cecilia: Thanks, Andrew. I saw the emphasis on self-directed learning on the website so it's good to have a sense of
what that means as a student.
Cassie: Can you tell me more about the anatomy labs: how are they run and many students are there in each group?
Jen-M1: Hi Cassie. So we tend to have lab once or twice a week. There are 6 students assigned to each cadaver, 2
groups of three. Each group does every other dissection, then that group teaches the other three people what they
learned. In addition, the three that didn't dissect teach the group that did the dissection clinically relevant cases
associated with the lab. There is a lecture before the lab as well, and our anatomy professors are great about holding
reviews about the material.
Cassie: Thanks Jen!
Lindsay Miller: Do you really have time to take a class outside of the med school?
Arun-M1: Hi Lindsay, our cirriculum keep us busy during most of the week. But, since the classes are all recorded and
only a few are required, you can definitely make time to take classes you are interested in.
Jessie Evangelista: Beth, do the medical school students have time to take advantage of these extra classes?
Beth_M1: It depends on the class you want to take. Our classes are not on a regular schedule, so that can make it
tough. However, I know of several classmates who took classes last semester.
Jennifer Kalil: Thank you, Andrew. Tessa, what, specifically, about the curriculum has made the biggest impact?
Tessa M1: Hi Jennifer, I think there are 2 things about the curriculum here that stand out to me. 1) The sequencebased learning approach is great. I know some schools teach anatomy, for instance, all at once rather than intergrating it
into the lectures for each organ system. I think it's very important to have the anatomy, histology, and science lectures all
integrated to promote the best learning experience. 2) Having quizzes each week (like we do here) can be hard day to
day because I feel like I am always studying, but I really think it's better than having big finals at the end of the
semester. Having weekly quizzes forces you to stay on top of the school work and contributes to a consistent and
balanced life, rather than trying to learn everything all at the end - It's so much information I can't even imagine that
Lindsay Miller: Thanks Arun!
Lisa: This may have been addressed earlier, but is there interaction between the classes?
Meg- M1: There is some interaction between the first and second years both in school and in groups and outside
activites. We don't really see the m3 and m4 students, excpet for a few events like fall ball and the smoker.
Jennifer Kalil: Thank you, Tessa!
Arun-M1: You're welcome Lindsay. Sincerely, The Better Arun.
Brendan Guercio: Are there a lot of medical students that do outdoors activities around Ann Arbor like hiking and crosscountry skiing?
Page 6 SpencerM1: Yes we are a very active group. We have tons of hiking trails, biking trails and everything in between. Out
classmates are always organizing some kind of outing to do some kind of out door activity. I personally have enjoyed
cruising down the Huron River in a canoe several times
Pierre Palo, Jr.: haha, the better arun.
Lisa: Thanks, Meg. And, what is the smoker?
Jen-M1: Hi Lisa. The Smoker is the medical schools musical roast of our faculty- its written, directed, and
choreographed by students.
Brendan Guercio: Great, thanks Spencer!
Jason: Quick question about the flex-time quizzes, are there certain times where it is packed in there and it's tough to
get a seat or is there always plenty of room?
Arun5_M1: Sometimes when the M2s are quizzing on the same weekend, the LRC can be a little packed. I've never
seen the LRC where nearly all the computers are actually taken though. When I say packed I mean busier than normal.
You can also take quizzes in the student center, which on the weekends is pretty empty so it's never a problem to hop on
a computer. Even if you do quiz Sunday night...
Renik Delisser: Are there any classes that equip those of us who aspire to own our own practices with the knowledge &
skills to accomplish such a feat?
Allison M1: Well, we have systems based sequences, but we do have CFM (Clinical Foundations of Medicine) weeks
which give us an opportunity to learn clnical skills. As far as running our own practice, we are able to shadow physicians
at U of M hospital as well as physicians who practice privately. This is a good way to establish mentors if you wish to
learn more about starting your own practice in the future.
Jessie Evangelista: What do you do during the anatomy lab when it is not your turn to participate in the dissection?
Jen-M1: Hi Jessie. We have to review clinical cases related to the dissection that is going on, then its a good time to get
some studying in because you have to be available when the dissection team is done
Director Ruiz: What else can we tell you about Michigan tonight?
Edward Larkin: Did you current students choose U-M at all because of the type of medicine you wanted to do (a certain
specialty), or did you keep a completely open mind on that?
Beth_M1: My decision was mixed. I am really interested in Peds, so the new Mott Hospital, which will be open later this
year, was a big draw. That being said, I don't know for sure what I want to do, so the wide range of expertise found at
U of M really appealed to me.
Ernest Maningding 2: Hello! If one were to go to all the classes for a given week, how many hours would that amount
to?
Meg- M1: It really depends on a week to week basis and what sequence we're in. We're currently in our GI sequence
and have around 3 lectures a day and 2-3 labs a week, but in our musculoskeletal sequence we had a lot of labs and only
1-2 lecutres a day.
Jessie Evangelista: Also, if there is an organ system that you are particularly interested in can you be sure to participate
in that dissection? Or are they pre-assigned?
Andrew, M1: The dissections alternate between two teams, but if you are dead-set on doing one you can work it out
within your group, or just show up in addition to them. Nothing's set in stone.
Brendan Guercio: I know that most M1s have not had a lot of exposure to M3s and M4s, but given the little contact you
have had, do you know how satisfied the M3s and M4s have been with their clinical rotations at UMMS?
Allison M1: I actually was just at a Q and A session that the M3s and M4s had for the M1s and M2s for Galens (a
social/community service group) to give us advice about sequences, step 1 exams, and deciding what rotations to take.
From what I heard, they liked their rotations but they are very demanding so they seemed tired, but were really glad to
be on the wards and interact with patients.
Jessie Evangelista: Thanks Andrew!
Caroline: Do many students purchase condos while at Michigan?
Page 7 Beth_M1: Most students rent. The MSTP students are the ones who are the most likely to buy because they will be
here for a long time.
Yih-Chieh: As far as residency, do most people stay in the Midwest or spread out across the US
Meg- M1: Our students really end up all over the country. The past 10 years of residency matches are on the website if
you want to get a better picture of where our students end up.
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Allison, sounds good! I suppose the demanding part is characteristic of rotations anywhere,
haha.
Kerri Lopez: Are there courses geared toward medical ethics? How about health care economics and policy?
Arun-M1: Hi Kerri, just about every week we all meet in a small group (FCE/LC) to discuss just these topics! It is always
a nice break from lectures.
Pierre Palo, Jr.: I won't leave AA until Saturday morning? Any places I should check out post-interview?
SpencerM1: Absolutely Pierre! There is a U of M Hockey game this Friday night that would definitely be a great time.
Afterwards you should head down to Main Street and check out the local scene. I would highly recommend that Saturday
morning you visit Zingermans Deli for one of their famous sandwiches before you head out of town.
Yih-Chieh: Thanks Meg
Ernest Maningding 2: I know that UMich is P/F for the first two years. But does it rank the students or have AOA?
Meg- M1: Studetns are not ranked at all during the first two years. There is no M1/M2 AOA it is only Pass/Fail.
Caroline: Is there a particular area best for buying a condo? Do MSTPs living a particular area?
Andrew, M1: There's a lot of variety depending on your price range and what you're looking for. I live closer to school,
but some live a bit further out and got a better price. The realtors out here are really helpful if you're looking to buy.
Kerri Lopez: Okay thanks Arun!
GoBlue2011: Hi everyone! I have a quick question regarding Michigan's scholarship decisions. I have a scholarship offer
from another medical school that is extremely tempting – but I also really want to go to Michigan because of the unique
features of your program. Hypothetically, if Michigan and this other school were to cost the same amount of money, I
would definitely go to Michigan. With that being said, would your scholarship committee like to be notified of these kinds
of offers from other schools? If so, what is the best way to go about letting you know? Thanks!
Director Ruiz: We'll make scholarship offers in March--hopefully we'll be able to help!
Jessie Evangelista: Is there ample parking near campus if you live a bit further away?
Arun-M1: Hi Jessie, parking is actually not that easy to come by, especially during the work days/times. The bus
systems are great and free!
Renik Delisser: Could you explain in detail the premise and function of the professional skill builder (curriculum
resource)?
Beth_M1: Hi Renik. Professional skill builder is designed to be a resource for med students to develop their clinical
skills. It has videos of our professors perfoming physical exams, clinical problem solving exercises, heart sound skill
builders and challenges, etc. It is a great resource.
Jessie Evangelista: I would love to attend the U of M Hockey game, how would I go about getting tickets?
SpencerM1: Jessie tickets can be purchased off of the mgoblue website. Here is a link to purchase tickets for this
Friday's game. http://ev8.evenue.net/cgibin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS:UM:H10:H13:&linkID=umichse&shopperContext=&caller=&appCode=
Edward Larkin: Is the new North Campus going to have any impact on med students?
Andrew, M1: If you are talking about the research campus recently acquired, I believe the biggest impact will be for
research opportunities. It's still being populated and figured out what labs will be there exactly.
Brendan Guercio: Given that most students live 10 min from the school by foot and that biking is not always possible in
the winter, how do students feel about walking 10 min to class in Michigan winter weather during January and February?
Page 8 Jen-M1: Hi Brendan. A 10 minute walk really isn't that bad, even in january or february. and if its really bad, you can
watch the lectures from bed
Caroline: Thanks Andrew!
Jessie Evangelista: I'm from New York City and I love being able to get a bite to eat when I am studying late at night.
Are there student-friendly places open all night?
Meg- M1: Yes, there are a lot of restaurants/bars open late. For example Pizza House, which has great food, is open
and delivers until 4am every day.
cecilia: How involved is UMMS in healthcare in Michigan? I'm coming at this from an interest in healthcare reform, esp
expanding community-based medicine. With the unemployment rates in the state, I was wondering if UMMS has a role in
addressing healthcare issues that stem from higher unemployment.
Allison M1: The unemployment rate in Michigan is very low right now and U of M is a huge hospital in the area and has
been impacted by the poor economy. We are certainly aware of these economic issues and I personally am not involved
in programs to handle these changes, we are being taught to understand health care from the patients perspective when
this perspective involves financial obstacles and other implications which impact thier lifestyle and occupation.
Ernest Maningding 2: How is financial aid distributed? And what is taken into consideration when it comes to merit
based scholarships?
Arun5_M1: Hey Maningding! I hope you're honing your rapstar skills still for next year! Financial aid is need based and
recruitment scholarships, which are merit based which will be announced in March. The merit based scholarships are
based upon how highly you have been rated as a candidate by the admission committee. Basically how strong your
AMCAS is and what kind of impression you make on the interview. So, in short, everything is taken into consideration.
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Jen!
Jennifer Kalil: Would you recommend living walking distance from school?
Tessa M1: Hi Jennifer, I live less than 10 minutes walking distance from the med school and absolutely love it. From
where I live, I can actually walk indoors for half of my walk to school, which is really nice in the winter. However, I know
a number of classmates who commute to school and they haven't seemed to have a problem with it. It's up to you, but
living close is really convenient!
Crystal Azu 2: Is there a way to get a transcript of the conversation?
Director Ruiz: Yes--they are posted on your status page!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: How much time during clinical foundation courses is spent in the Clinical Simulation Center?
Beth_M1: Hi Pierre. So far we haven't spent any time in the CSC. It is mainly used to teach skills during the clinical
years.
Crystal Azu 2: Oh right, I forgot. Thanks!
Crystal Azu 2: Oh right, I forgot. Thanks!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Okay, thanks Beth.
cecilia: Thanks, Allison!
GoBlue2011: Thanks for your responses everyone!
Lisa: Are there any special features in the curriculum like a scholarship project or specialized tracks of study?
Allison M1: The global health track is in the development stages and there is a Health Equity Scholars track which was
established a few years ago and is very active.
Lisa: Sweet! Thanks Allison.
Director Ruiz: As the chat winds down what else would you like to know?
Allison M1: Lindsay, I study in the computer lab at the med school or in the health sciences library
Lindsay Miller: Thanks Allison.
Lindsay Miller: Thanks Allison.
Page 9 Lindsay Miller: Do most of you study in the library or at home?
Meg- M1: I study at school mostly because If not i get side tracked by reality tv shows. Most students study
somewhere on campus either at the medical school or at other graduate school/undergrad locations
Brendan Guercio: Does anyone have any specific information about what the forthcoming global health track might look
like? It sounds very interesting.
Beth_M1: The format of the Global Health track is still very much in development. They are actually holding a meeting
with current students soon to get our input on how we feel the track should be organized.
Brendan Guercio: Is the health sciences library shared with undergraduates, or is it exclusively reserved for the use of
medical and graduate students?
Meg- M1: The Taubman sciene library is open to everyone (but it is located in one of the med school buildings). There
is a 24 hour computuer lab where many students study that is just for medical students
Applicant: Are all acceptees invited to second look?
Director Ruiz: yes--although some events/activities are going to be capped due to capacity limitations but all accepts
will be able to com!
Jen-M1: Ernest- we will have to head back to pizza house next year when your here!!!
Renik Delisser: What is your relationship with your professors like? Could you recall the most memorable moment
you've had involving one or more of them? Have any of them said or done something truly unique, something out of
unfaltering concern for the welfare of his or her student?
Tessa M1: Hi Renik, I was actually really surprised that often times our professors lead our small group sections, rather
than TAs. Professors are also available after lectures for questions and are generally responsive to emails.
cecilia: For the interviews, are there certain areas or aspects of applicants that you would have liked them to talk more
about?
Allison M1: Just be yourself on your inteview! Your interviewers will be very familiar with your application so bring up
your strengths and answer their questions honestly and you'll be fine.
Lindsay Miller: Thanks Meg. Are there places within walking distance of campus where you can grab a bite to eat in
between study sessions?
Meg- M1: I know it sounds weird, but the hospital cafeteria is AMAZING. There is also a Jimmy Johns very close and a
cafe in the basement of the medical school.
Yih-Chieh: Are the interviews with faculty or students or both?
Andrew, M1: Both - it depends on your schedule, but faculty, students, and sometimes alumni interview.
Pierre Palo, Jr.: All of the rotations are done in AA correct?
SpencerM1: No the rotations are done in Ann Arbor and outlying areas. Thats why it is necessary to have a car in your
third and fourth year.
Applicant: thanks director ruiz. are these on a first come first serve basis?
Director Ruiz: yes
Ernest Maningding 2: Thanks Arun! I definitely remember a few people on this thread, including you, Allison, and Jen
(if they're the ones I'm thinking about)! I will definitely have to work on my rapstar skills. haha. I also have a question
about the weather. how is michigan during the rest of the year? I only got a small sample of the winter
Arun5_M1: Haha, you're definitely thinking of the right people. Allison has definitely worked on her skills. When
Michigan isn't in winter it's gorgeous. In the fall, the colors look amazing, especially on campus. Over the summer you
get to take advantage of all the outdoor activities that are available and then temp can get up to around 90 degrees. But
as you saw, during the winter life is a bit cold...
Brendan Guercio: It's great that the school is even using student input for the construction of new tracks. Thanks Beth!
Beth_M1: That is one of the things I really like about Michigan. They really care about student input and often act on
it.
Page 10 cecilia: Thanks, Allison! Good to know it's not a closed interview. I wasn't sure.
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Meg!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: okay, thanks Spencer. I'll have to work on getting a car.......
Jessie Evangelista: Have any of the first year students had the opportunity to work one-on-one with a faculty member?
Tessa M1: Hi Jessie - yes definitely. A lot of first year students have already set up their research projects for the
summer and through that have already started to work individually with faculty. Also the faculty are very open to having
students shadow. One time a professor actually contacted me when they heard I was interested in shadowing their field.
Jen-M1: Ernest- come to second look- you'll see what Arun means!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Is shadowing generally done in the summer?
Arun-M1: Hey Pierre, you can shadow anytime you want. If thats something you're interested in, there is definitely
time for it!
Allison M1: Hi Ernest! This is the same Allison. The winter is definitely manageable as long as you have a warm coat
and boots, haha.
Jason: Is there anything that you guys would recommend doing in preparation prior to the start of classes?
Shadowing, reading, etc.?
Jen-M1: Hi Jason-just enjoy your summer- michigan will take care of you whne you start
Jessie Evangelista: Wow Tessa. That's awesome. I had no idea the professors were so interested in working with the
students.
Tessa M1: Yeah, I was surprised too!
Kerri Lopez: Medical students - did you feel that you had enough time during your Michigan interviews to
accurately/effectively communicate your personality and strengths? 30 minutes does not sound like a lot of time!
SpencerM1: Yes the interviews are definitely enough time for you to effectively represent yourself. Although we all
would like to have more time to talk about ourselves it isnt realistic given the number of applicants. Dont worry Kerri,
your interviewers will already know a lot about you before you even arrive so you will be able to communicate the parts
of you that you really want them to know. Enjoy the interview, its actually more fun than it sounds
Lisa: Are any of you MS1s from the South? How do you deal with the cold weather?
Beth_M1: I am not exactly from the south, but I went to UGA for undergrad so I spent four years in Georgia. Coming
back up here was definitely an adjustment, but the great thing about UMMS is that few classes during the first two years
actually require attendance, so you can just stay home if it is nasty. Also, the entire hospital complex, including the med
school, is connected by walkways, so once you get inside, you don't have to go back out. Finally, I recommend a good,
warm, long coat, snow tires and a remote car starter.
Lindsay Miller: Do most students do research the summer between their M1 and M2 years?
Meg- M1: Yes many of our students are involved in a program called SBRP where you work with a mentor on a topic of
your choice and recieve a stipend. This research can be here in Ann Arbor or internationally.
Brendan Guercio: Do the students in your small group sections change a lot, or do students stay in the same small
groups for extended periods of time?
Andrew, M1: There are different small groups. You have "academic" small groups, Family Centered Experience small
groups, and also anatomy dissection groups. They mix it up so you get to meet a lot of people.
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Awesome. Thanks Arun.
Joe Papin: Are there any sort of formal funded summer research opportunities in the summer before the M1 year?
Allison M1: You can do SBRP before your M1 year if you are in Ann Arbor. I'm not sure how you would apply, but
definitely look in to it!
Brendan Guercio: Great, thanks Andrew!
Director Ruiz: 5 minutes...what else can we tell you before our great med students head off for the evening?
Page 11 Renik Delisser: Are any of you M1s interested in writing? That is, if you find the time to write. Have you authored
and/or published any literature, poetry or prose?
Arun5_M1: Hey Renik. I actually love writing prose, mainly comedic. There is actually a literary journal the medical
students publish twice a year. It's called The Hipp and you can find it online: www.the-hippo.com
Joe Papin: Allison, when is the SBRP application due?
Meg- M1: February 4th
Lindsay Miller: Thanks Meg!
Kerri Lopez: Okay thanks Spencer - I will try to relax!
Renik Delisser: Any Chess players?
Jen-M1: Our class has so many diverse talents- im sure you wont have any trouble finding someone to play
Yih-Chieh: Thanks everyone for your time!
Kerri Lopez: Thanks all! Very informative
Edward Larkin: Will the Class of 2015 see a Big 10 championship for the football team?
Arun-M1: Hey Edward, I'm betting you see a couple!
cecilia: This has been very helpful! Thanks so much, everyone, for taking the time out of your busy schedules!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: yes
Director Ruiz: 3 minutes--any last minute questions!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Brady Hoke is the man
cecilia: Are there particular areas of global health where UMMS is more involved in than others? Does the school see
itself as a leader on a particular topic of global health?
Allison M1: Right now they global health administration is really getting involved in academic medical research in China.
They have a huge patient poplution and regional hosptials so we can have access to a lot of data from one central
location. We also have a lot of opportunities in Africa and Central America that you can get involved in through summer
research programs and M4 clinical rotations.
Lindsay Miller: Thanks so much everyone. This was great!
Ernest Maningding 2: Ok, sounds good! I was also wondering what you think of the larger class size compared to other
medical schools. Do you see any pros/cons?
Jen-M1: Hi Ernest. I actually think our class size is perfect. I don't think I would want it to be any smaller for sure. i
love that someone in the class is always doing something- if you want to find something to do, its not hard to do. A
couple of our classmates wanted to get a group together to see Les Miserable next month and had no trouble finding
classmates to go with. I feel like that wouldnt be the case for a smaller class
Pierre Palo, Jr.: So, I'm a little nervouse about Anatomy. However, from what I've read there seems to be ample
support via Professors, small-group sessions, etc to make sure the material is processed. Am I worrying for nothing?
Meg- M1: I had never taken an anatomy class and had taken two years off of school, and LOVE anatomy. Our webiste
has more resources than you can take advantage of and the professors are amazing. You can go in early any morning of
the week and go over dissections with the profs and many of them hold weekly review sessions. I was really nervous
about anatomy and have found it to be a great experience.
Director Ruiz: Evee- quit sucking up!
Evee: I just wanted to say that UMMS has the BEST interview day!
Jessie Evangelista: Thank you so much for your time. I am really looking forward to being in Ann Arbor on Friday!
Beth_M1: See you tomorrow, Jessie!
Brendan Guercio: Do students feel that they have adequate exposure to a variety of biomedical topics before choosing
a project for SBRP? Or do students generally enter medical school with a field of interest or project in mind?
Page 12 Arun5_M1: I feel like getting exposed to things in lecture doesn't necessarily translate into knowing if you're interested
in it. I think shadowing would definitely be more indicative. And you have plenty of opportuno that. Though, SBRP
applications aren't due until early February so either way, you'll have a lot of sequences under your belt.
cecilia: Thanks, Allison!
Pierre Palo, Jr.: Thanks Meg. That's really reassuring!
Renik Delisser: Thank you all for investing your time in answering our questions! Your assistance is much appreciated.
This has definitely been informative and calming..I hope to see you all in two days and feel free to look for me or
approach me. I'd love to get to know each one of you!
Arun-M1: Renik we would all love to meet you!
Director Ruiz: 1 minute--any last minute questions
Brendan Guercio: Thanks Arun5!
Jessie Evangelista: Thanks so much for hosting me Beth! I can't wait!
Caroline: Thanks guys!
Ernest Maningding 2: Thanks everyone!
Meg- M1: by ernest! come back and play more rap star soon!
Arun5_M1: Have a good night guys. Good luck!
Brendan Guercio: And thanks to everyone else too!
cecilia: Thanks again! Hope to see some of you in Feb. And I hope it warms up! (doubtful)
Joe Papin: Thanks everyone!
Director Ruiz: Ok-it's 9-you don't have to go home but you can't stay here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGytDsqkQY8&ob=av3el
Kerri Lopez: Any chance more student hosts will open up??
Beth_M1: When is your interview day, Kerri?
Director Ruiz: For now; goodnight, for tomorrow; good luck; and forever; Go Blue!
Kerri Lopez: Feb 4
Kerri Lopez: I have been checking but to no avail..
Jen-M1: its a definite possibiliy
Jen-M1: just keep checking
Director Ruiz: last one out of the chat room is automatically rejected!!
UM Carol: email me at the Admissions office - [email protected]
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