Official Publication of
THE SUNRISE TRAIL DIVISION, INC.
Northeastern Region
National Model Railroad Association
VOLUME 36 NUMBER 2
SUMMER 2006
INDEPENDENCE JUNCTION 2006
THE ISLAND CENTRAL’S BRASS HAT LOOKS BACK
HOWARD DWYER’S ACCOUNT BEGINS ON PAGE 3
The historic Reading train shed was one of the features of the 2006 National Model Railroad Association Convention
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editor’s notes / WALTER WOHLEKING
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WHILE LOOKING through my collection
of clipped articles about stations recently, I
noticed a tiny advertisement that happened
to be on one of the pages I had saved from
the October, 1958, Model Railroader.
Within the 1”x2¼” box was the bolded
title, “Join the NMRA”, and then, “To join
the National Model Railroad Association,
send $3 to NMRA, Box1238-B, Station C,
Canton 8, Ohio. You will get the monthly
bulletin, data sheets, yearbook, and other
advantages of membership.”
It wasn't all that long afterward that,
fresh out of college and holding down my
first real job, I initially joined the NMRA. I
remember those data sheets, enough to fill
two loose-leaf notebooks. I kept them until
purchasing the NMRA Infopak on CD
about 6 years ago. Memories of the Bulletin
from those years were rekindled during the
past year when Ken Szekretar and I joined
Steve Perry in his minivan and took the
good part of a day visiting a few of the
better train stores in our area. Ken had
brought along some Bulletins from the
1970s, when he first joined the NMRA.
Published in a computer-less era, they were
unsophisticated as to composition, but
contained 80 or more heavyweight paper
pages filled with great information. They
were a treat to read and, if memory serves
me, much anticipated each month,
particularly in what, from a model
railroading standpoint, was essentially a
two magazine era.
My membership in the NMRA in those
days brought me the “NMRA Scale
Converter”, a really neat circular calculator
made of cardstock, which, among other
things, converted prototype dimensions
into those of almost any model railroading
scale. It also allowed me to dial up the
NMRA's recommended bridge and
structural clearances for each scale.
That same stuff, if you could get it
today, should cost $21, according to the
Federal Government's Consumer Price
Index. Yet with the recent $3 increase in
membership dues, the cost of the nearest
equivalent NMRA membership (which
would include Scale Rails) is $48, over
twice as much. And just how equivalent
would it be? Well, while there's no doubt
that Scale Rails is a much better looking,
more inviting monthly than the old
Bulletin, I'm sure there'd be a valid debate
about content.
And what about the data sheets? As
near as I can tell, unless you have a
computer, you're out of luck. And unless
your computer has an internet connection
Remember the NMRA scale converter?
or you have a friend with an internet
connection who will do the download for
you and give you the pages on a CD, you're
going to have to pay for them. They're
available for downloading from the
NMRA's website (www.nmra.org).
Otherwise, you'll have to get the Infopak
CD, which will cost you $19.95 plus $7.95
for shipping and handling plus 9.25% sales
tax if you live in Tennessee. (Yikes! And I
thought New York State sales tax was
high!)
As for that more than slightly fabulous,
definitely neat, real classic of a circular
calculator, well if you really want one of
those definite collectibles, log onto eBay
with an open pocketbook. I'm expecting to
live off the proceeds for a long time.
If an equivalent NMRA membership
appears to cost more than twice as much as
it one time did, then there should be
something else available for your dues that
you didn't have before. As the more cynical
among us might put it , “I don't get the data
sheets, I don't get that fabulous, collectible,
circular calculator, but I'm paying twice as
much. Just what else do I get?” Well, there's
the calendar, which is both attractive and
useful, particularly for its reminders. I'm
pretty sure I didn't get a calendar all those
years ago. Otherwise, whatever other
benefits accrue are largely unseen, which,
as we have pointed out when we've whined
about dues in the past (Spring, 2005 issue),
presents the NMRA with the problem of
perceived value of membership.
In short, what does the NMRA offer
you today that your membership dues pay
for that it didn't nearly 50 years ago, when
that modest little ad appeared in Model
Railroader? After visiting the NMRA
website to review its offerings, I can think
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THE CANNON BALL
INDEPENDENCE JUNCTION 2006...A LOOK BACK
ARTICLE & PHOTOS BY HOWARD DWYER
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2006 MARKED THE NMRA’S 70 ANNIVERSARY, and this
year's NMRA National Convention was held at the Marriott
Downtown Hotel and Pennsylvania Convention Center in the heart
of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Members could avail themselves of pre-registration, which was
suggested. Although circumstances prevented me personally from
pre-registering, I was able to register at the time of arrival and was
pleased to receive all the necessary convention material at that
time. All convention activities were well outlined in the material
provided. NMRA activities, information, layout tour tickets,
contests and the banquet were held at the Pennsylvania Convention
Center and not in the hotel itself. The Marriott Hotel was directly
connected to the Convention Center via the restored old “Reading
Terminal Headhouse and Train Shed”. The many convention
activities were accessible through the huge Train Shed which
commemorated the original 13 train tracks with the construction of
13 marble stanchions indicating track placement.
Although the convention ran from July 2nd thru July 9th,
members could arrive for the length of stay needed to participate in
the activities they desired. My wife, Diana, and I arrived July 4th
and participated in events through July 8th. We found all activities
to be very well organized.
Upon settling in and reviewing options, we decided to sign up
for some layout tours and the Riverboat Dinner tour. Unfortunately
the dinner tour had sold out early, and we were unable to take part.
We then signed up for a layout tour scheduled on Wednesday,
which included a bus ride to five home layouts. After tour sign up,
we orientated ourselves to the many other activities in the center.
We spent a great deal of time in the Contest Room and viewed the
numerous scale models submitted by NMRA members, which
included structures, motor power, rolling stock, and modules… all
of fine craftsmanship. Also included in the Contest Room were
many prototype and model photos submitted by members in color,
black & white & sepia style prints. All submissions could be
viewed daily by all and were judged on Thursday, July 6th. Next
on our agenda was the Silent Auction Room where over 500 items
for bidding were on display. (I was in and out of this room at least 6
times!!)… as there were items continuously being brought in for
bidding. One particular item up for bidding which caught my eye
was a Fine Scale Miniature wooden coaling tower originally priced
for $39.95 when first issued. Bidding on this item escalated to
$175.00, which closed me out! Free time on this day was spent
(continued overleaf)
A marble stanchion commemorates each of the original 13 tracks in the old Reading train shed
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attending various clinics.
The next day, Wednesday found us up at an early 5:30 a.m. with
room service breakfast so that we would be on time for our layout
bus tour. The tour bus consisted of fifteen members. This smaller
number of conventioneers made visiting each layout easier, so that
viewing in shifts was avoided, thus allowing more visiting time at
each layout.
First stop was Rick Spano's N scale Scenicked and Undecided
Railroad, a fully scenicked layout with plenty of animation. One
scene that was pointed out to me was a hobby shop and in the
window was an operating railroad measuring ½ inch long! You can
see how it was constructed thought their web site at
www.whiteriverandnorthern.net. Click on “Clinics”, then
“World's Smallest Functional Layout”.
Next on the tour was Rich Laube's 1800 square foot G scale
garden railroad. Even with a slight drizzle we were able to see some
trains run. Unfortunately, the weather cut our visit short, and we
proceeded to our next stop, Bob Jans' HO scale Pennsylvania
Railroad with a logging branch, which negotiated several stone
arched bridges that Bob had made. Bob does not confine his hobby
to his basement, as a visit to his backyard revealed. There thirty
actual scale feet of ballasted track with a handcar waited for a full
scale Pennsy signal to give it the go ahead.
Fourth stop on the tour was at the ranch home of Robert Arthur.
It has the large basement characteristic of ranch houses, and it
contains Robert's 1200 square foot, HO scale railroad with not one,
but two, triple-track, 46 inch radius helixes! The layout reminded
me of a scaled down version of the West Island Club. Finally we
visited Steve Staffieri's HO scale layout, which is a coal-burning
railroad with two large staging yards and 125 manual turnouts
thrown by wired slide switches.
With the tour complete it's interesting to note that all the layouts
we viewed were powered by DCC with sound equipped motor
power. My favorite part of any convention, are the layout tours. I
like seeing what other model railroaders are doing, and I always
come away with new ideas for my own layout, not to mention that I
just like to watch trains run. We arrived back at the convention
center at 1:00 PM, where I checked out the contest room and the
auction room in case any new goodies were put up for bidding. The
rest of the day, except for dinner was spent taking in several of the
many clinics offered.
Since Diana and I had never been to historic Philadelphia
before, we spent Thursday morning on a self-guided tour of the
many landmarks within walking distance of the hotel. After a bite
to eat for lunch we boarded a bus to see another group of layouts
featured at the convention. This particular tour consisted of three
very fine HO scale, operation orientated layouts, which were of
interest to me since my own layout, the Island Central Railroad, is
in that scale and stresses operation.
We arrived back at the convention center at 6:00PM and had
dinner at one of the many fine restaurants located in the area. Later
at 8:00 p.m. I attended an interesting clinic on the History of the
American Gas Station. With over 175 vehicles on my own layout, I
found the clinic very interesting.
Friday was the opening of the three-day train show, which is
held at every NMRA national convention. The show ran from 9AM
to 6PM with the first three hours on Friday restricted to registered
members only. Diana and I queued up at a quarter to nine with other
NMRA members, so that when the doors opened, we were among
the first in. After just an hour, the budget we had set for the
convention was history. On the other hand, a more positive way to
view the depletion of our pocketbook is that I needed things to keep
me busy over the upcoming long winter.
In addition to all the vendors present, there were plenty of
modular layouts for viewing, from Z scale to O scale and then
some, namely Lego. There was something for everyone. After
lunch we spent the rest of the day watching trains run on the
numerous modular layouts that were set up. In addition to the many
activities and events that I attended, there were also a number of
“Prototype/Industrial” tours available to participate in.
Saturday morning found us getting ready to leave but not
before returning once more to the Train Show, just in case I missed
something. Diana and I had a fun filled and fast four days at this
annual event and are looking forward to the 2009 NMRA
convention to be held in Hartford.
IT’S NOT TOO EARLY TO THINK ABOUT OUR CONVENTION
10:00 AM - 4:00PM Saturday, November 4th, 2006 United Methodist Church 881 Merrick Road, Baldwin
Clinics
Model & Photo Contests
The year’s best White Elephant Table
Operating Modular Layouts
Timesaver
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Banquet
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former President
Long Island Sunrise Trail Chapter
National Railway Historical Society
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THE CANNON BALL
DON’T MISS THIS!
MODELING WITH THE MASTERS OF THE SUNRISE TRAIL
The Sunrise Trail Division’s Two-Day Participation Clinic
with Master Model Railroaders, Walter Neumen & Al Sohl
Scratchbuild a Warehouse or Pumphouse
in HO or O Scale
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Saturday, September 30
and
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Saturday, October 7
9:00 AM - 4:30PM
St. David's Evangelical Lutheran Church
20 Clark Blvd., Massapequa Park, NY
SUNRISE HIGHWAY (RT. 27)
% SCRATCHBUILD A WAREHOUSE
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SUMMER 2006
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of just two things, both of which might be of inestimable value: The
first is the website, itself. A lot of information is available there that
really couldn't be delivered as well in any other way. The other is
the tremendous collection of resources provided by the Kalmbach
Memorial Library.
Oh, I realize there are excellent publications that didn't exist
before, such as the wonderful reprints of “Freight Terminals &
Trains” and “Railway Track & Maintenance”, both of which are
part of my library. And there are videos, and the Modeling with the
Masters clinics, and the Heritage/Legends cars, and T-Shirts and
collectibles. But you have to pay additionally for those. In almost
every case, your dues merely get you the right to pay less for them
than a non-member. In fact, about the only exclusivity offered you
as a member is the right to spend an additional $150 or so for
admittance to the annual National Convention and Train Show.
(Make no mistake. This isn't a gripe about the price of a convention
ticket. Costs for renting a hall suitable for the NMRA convention
have become brutal.)
Now, defenders of the faith will argue that the NMRA's
Railpass has high value, and they would be dead–on about that.
Railpass has got to be one of the best deals, if not the very best deal,
the NMRA has ever offered. The value of Railpass membership is
every bit as high as the perceived value of conventional
membership is low. But Railpass is fleeting, both to its recipient
and quite possibly for the NMRA (depending on whether or not the
program will be extended beyond whenever the NMRA scheduled
it to end). Something of longer term is needed to increase the value
of NMRA membership beyond getting discounts on things to buy.
Now my momma always said it was OK to criticize as long as
you offered an alternative approach and then didn't slink off
sulking if it wasn't accepted. In other words she thought you'd
better be ready to walk the walk, if you wanted to talk the talk. So
what follows is how I think the NMRA could make membership
more valuable both to those already enrolled, as well as to those
Railpass neophytes thinking of taking the permanent membership
plunge.
The one thing I won't be suggesting is a reduction in dues. First
of all, that's like striking out the pitcher. It's too easy. It's too
obvious. Furthermore, we ought to be assuming the NMRA needs
the extra revenue the $3 increase in dues will provide. The Spring,
2005 “Mixed Consist” opined that “the $2 per member stipend to
the regions... and the continuing erosion in membership will cost
the NMRA around $3.30 per member each year.” So the $3
increase should not be totally unexpected.
But whatever is done, whatever is suggested, the end objectives
of any recommendations must be to increase NMRA membership,
increase NMRA's revenue streams, and make membership more
attractive. Here, then, are some ideas that I think can achieve those
ends.
First, every new regular (not Railpass or Family) member
should get an NMRA standards gauge in his or her new member
packet. No one object as useful as this is so immediately
identifiable with the NMRA. Besides they don't make that more
than slightly fabulous, definitely neat, real classic of a circular
calculator any more.
Second, embrace Mike Siegel's idea of arranging for premiums
and discounts with travel and tourist related organizations, such as
AAA, Via Rail, Amtrak, many tourist railroads, and other
organizations who make this a regular part of their sales promotion
efforts. Then include these in each new member packet, because
they'll increase the perceived value of the membership.
Next, replace discounts NMRA members get for stuff they buy
with rebates for the equivalent amount (I love rebates). The
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“If many more fall off, there ain’t gonna be no one left but us fat cats.”
Ken Szekretar
member can use the rebate as credit toward the next dues payment,
thus reducing the cost of renewing membership, apply it against
future purchases, or ask that it be remitted, which would be like
getting the discount in the first place. If nothing else, the NMRA
gets the full, rather than discounted amounts of those cash flows up
front.
Last, and best, establish an agreement with model railroad
equipment manufacturers to provide rebates (I really love rebates)
on purchases of their products by NMRA members, which would
be used to offset NMRA dues for the purchaser of the
manufacturer's products. Here's how it would work.
Because the manufacturer would bear all the cost burden, it
should be given little else to do. The NMRA would do the
accounting at both ends. It would keep track of who bought what
and for how much, the amount of rebates earned for each member
and what the cumulative rebate total was for each manufacturer.
For each purchase or group of purchases, the NMRA member
buying the participating manufacturer's products would have to
complete an NMRA supplied form, which would be sent to the
NMRA along with the original sales receipt(s) for whatever was
purchased. Yearly, the NMRA would bill all participating
manufacturers for the rebates. When each member's renewal time
came around, the NMRA dues bill for each member would be
reduced by the rebates earned by that member during the period
from the last renewal.
Lifetime members could apply rebates against other NMRA
related costs, such as convention tickets, publications, or
something from the NMRA store. The period over which any
member could accumulate rebate credits would be the same as the
renewal period. That is, if a member chose to renew for two years,
the rebates would accumulate over that period to be applied against
the next dues bill. Lifetime members would accumulate rebates on
a yearly basis. At the end of however long the renewal period, any
unused credits earned would be re-set to zero, and the NMRA
would keep the attendant surplus. In the event rebates earned by a
member exceeded his or her dues payment, there would be no
carryover. The dues for that particular renewal would be $0 and the
NMRA would retain the surplus. The NMRA would maintain all
related documentation submitted by members, as well as any
related rebate calculations and agree to make this available for any
audit a manufacturer might wish to undertake. For participating in
the program, the manufacturer would be recognized publicly by the
NMRA, perhaps with a seal or logo of some sort, and given the
right to advertise its participation.
What should all of the above get us?
Individuals would receive a membership with greater
perceived value because of things like the NMRA standards gauge,
premium coupons and rebates for purchased items, or because an
offset to the dues means whatever a member receives for those dues
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MIXED CONSIST (continued from previous page)
costs less.
The NMRA would benefit from the increased membership a
better dues structure would attract, which should reverse the slide
in membership and increase revenue streams not only from dues,
but also from stuff the NMRA sells.
Participating model railroad equipment manufacturers should
earn good will, some kind of a tax break, and a sales boost as
NMRA members focus on their products, which would hopefully
offset, partially or fully, their financial contribution.
So there you have it. The ideas of a fat, old, complaining fart
who's worried about the relevance of a shrinking institution that
has been the guiding light and done so much for his favorite hobby.
He has no beef with the NMRA, other than that he doesn't think he's
getting his money's worth, which I guess, after all, is a pretty big
beef. The thing is there are a lot like him, and they're not all as old.
But this ends the whining, the complaining, and the rude
remarks from this corner, anyway. It’s time for me to get off this
particular soap box and move on to other things that might be more
interesting, but I guarantee will be nowhere near as important. I’ve
said my piece. Let’s see what comes back.
I’m sure we’ll hear from those in the NMRA who’ll say, “The
standards gauge costs too much and the rest is an accounting
nightmare that will require an army of people.”
And I’ll say, “You don't really believe that stamped piece of
metal costs $10, do you?” and “You already have the membership
information you need in your database, and you can do the rest with
Microsoft Access and a PC.”
There are those in the manufacturing community who’ll say,
“It's just another gimmick to reduce my profits.”
And I’ll say, “What a low cost way to get some great public
relations, institutional advertising and marketing data. And if you
promote it right, you might even raise sales enough to break even.”
There are those—many I hope—who’ll say, “Let's try it!”
And I’ll most certainly agree.
Regardless of what anyone says or thinks, its important to
realize that increasing membership might not result in lower dues,
but decreasing membership will always require an increase in dues,
which will in turn result in a further reduction in membership level,
which will require a further increase in dues, and so on until, as Ken
Szekretar’s cartoon so aptly puts it, “all that will be left are the fat
cats”.
Talk of membership levels reminds me that the Membership
Thermometer in one of those 80-page Bulletins from the 70s that
Ken brought along on our train store tour in Steve's minivan was at
27,992 for September, 1978 — 1,405 more than a year before.
Has anyone checked it lately?
OUR APOLOGIES
The Cannon Ball’s windbag of an editor took up so much space in this issue that there wasn’t room left for modeling hints, book and media reviews,
the latest news from the Achievement Program, welcoming new members, or to do even minimal justice to the conclusion of our picture story,
“The LIRR Builds a Turnout.” Those things and more will appear in the Fall issue, scheduled for release after the Labor Day holiday.
Why not make a copy of this and give it to a friend?
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