¬ Monday J U N E 1 3 , 2 0 0 5 • S T A R T R I B U N E . C O M M I N N E S O T A’ S T O P N E W S C H O I C E • M I N N E A P O L I S • S T . PA U L COFFEE WITH: JULIE SANDS CAUSEY Position: Chairwoman, Western Bank. • In the news: Last Tuesday, Western Bank, which has six locations throughout the Twin Cities area, celebrated a grand reopening of its St. Paul headquarters in a new $4 million building at 663 University Av. Why did you build a new headquarters building? This a community we absolutely love. There’s a huge amount of economic development going on and a huge opportunity for further economic development in this area. So we’re able to stay focused here on what we’ve done for 90 years, literally since the inception of the bank when it was first chartered in 1915 within a block of here. It’s who Western Bank is. Western Bank is centered in Frogtown and has been for many, many years. The building we left was torn down so we could build this building. That building was really becoming quite dilapidated. What this building allows us to do is to make a pretty bold statement internally and externally that we’re committed to St. Paul broadly and to University Avenue and Frogtown more specifically. The other thing it allows us to do is to make a statement that we’re focused on moving forward in the world of community banking, that we feel that community banking is really important in terms of the Twin Cities economy. There are many big banks here doing a terrific job and are really committed to their customers, but many of the larger banks aren’t as interested in the small-business and nonprofit customers that we are. Where did that niche come from? I think Bill Sands had a huge amount to do with that being a primary focus of the bank and committed to this geographic area and to the ideals of helping out small businesses of color and immigrant businesses for years and years. About 12 years ago, he and a couple of friends and colleagues started the Neighborhood Development Center, which is upstairs and run by Mike Temali. It has been spun off from the bank for tax reasons as a totally separate entity, but WIND–Western Initiatives for Neighborhood Development–continues to be a subsidiary of the bank, and it’s related both to the Neighborhood Development Center and the bank. Neighborhood Development Center and Mike Temali were able to help even more entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs of color with not just the lending part of borhood and work in this neighborhood. So there’s a connection between that mission and the fact that your family members have lived in the city of St. Paul? I think there’s a big part of that. My grandfather, who bought the bank in 1935, lived in the city of St. Paul. Arthur William Sands was thrilled to essentially create a bank that looked very much like the small-town bank model that he knew from being a farm boy. He envisioned himself starting a small-town bank on University Avenue. things but the technical assistance and the training to really make that an opportunity for viable businesses to get started and incubate and move forward. So the commitment came from Bill Sands . Why did he care? I think Bill really believes, and we have all really come to get excited about the fact, that if this economy is going to be strong and vibrant and if this community is going to be healthy, it needs to be a community that has opportunities for all sorts of people. What is it about Bill Sands and the rest of the family that has led you folks to take chances with immigrant businesses and inner-city businesses? I think there’s a heart-and-soul connection that it’s the right thing to do and it feels like we really are helping these companies get going and move forward. I have three kids in St. Paul public schools, and my kids are in neighborhood schools where there are 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the kids in poverty, and 30 or 40 percent of the kids not speaking English at home. We know those families. We see those families. Our kids are in school with the families that live in this neigh- Bill is Arthur’s son? Bill is his son, and Art Sands bought the bank in 1935, about 20 years after its original charter. As most banks were at that point, post-Depression, it was in a very difficult time. He had moved here to be a bank examiner and was in position to hear about banks that were going under. He was one of 12 kids in a farm family. His two sons were Bill and Bob. Bob is my dad, and Bill is my uncle. Bill was in the banking business. He was at First Bank at the time. My father, Bob, was a lawyer at Fredrikson & Byron, where he was for 33 years. Both of them to this day are on the board of directors of the bank. I joined the board about five years ago and the first family member in the third generation to join the board and have been sort of anchoring the third generation, if you will. What had you done before joining the bank board? I have an MBA in finance from Wharton and an undergraduate in economics and had spent 15 years doing international economics work with Minnesota-based multinationals. Why didn’t you stay with the multinationals? It’s more impactful to do community banking than to do international economics, I think. This feels closer to building a widget, if you will. On the consulting side of things, you talk about a lot of concepts and you philosophize and you write reports, and I got to fly all over the world, and I got all these interesting opportunities, but it wasn’t at all clear that it was impactful even to the companies, let alone to the individuals within the companies. To come here and to know that every deal we do, every business that we finance, is a chance to move forward for that family, for that company, for the folks they employ, for the neighborhood, means a lot to me. When did you become chairwoman? Two years ago. I actually joined the board without any intention of being here on a dayto-day basis. I joined the board because we thought it would be terrific to have somebody from the third generation get involved and didn’t realize I was coming into the business and sort of becoming the next generation of family leadership. How did that happen? The Sands family cares a lot about perpetuating this bank because we think it’s an investment in all the stakeholders of the bank, really. We’d love to see this bank move forward as a community bank, as an independent bank, for many years to come. And Bill and Bob are 63 and 65 years old, and there was the feeling that if we were gong to do that we need another generation of family members involved in the bank. So many of the community banks have been purchased by larger banks and have merged and been acquired. We think we can do better business, more business, if we continue to stay independent, if we continue to stay family-owned. Why does it have to be family-managed to stay independent? We do have professional management. There’s a CEO and president from the outside –Steve Erdall–who just does an absolutely terrific job managing the bank with his team of people, and that has worked extremely well from a professional management standpoint. But I do believe that long-term vision and commitment to community and commitment to economic development is something that has originated and been pushed on the family side of things. I assume there have been opportunities to sell the bank. It would be really easy to sell the bank. Have you come close? Nope. Why not? I think our fear if the bank were sold it wouldn’t be the same bank. If the bank were sold, it might not have the same focus on economic development. It might not have the same focus on the communities in which the six banks are located. It might not have the same focus on small business and on entrepreneurs of color and immigrant entrepreneurs. I don’t think it would be the same if it were owned by a bigger bank. Larry Werner Posted with permission from Star Tribune. Copyright © 2008. All rights reserved. #1-25407551 Managed by The YGS Group, 717.399.1900. For more information visit www.theYGSgroup.com/reprints.
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