Transient behavior and relaxations of the L3 (sponge) phase: T-jumb experiments G. Waton, G. Porte To cite this version: G. Waton, G. Porte. Transient behavior and relaxations of the L3 (sponge) phase: Tjumb experiments. Journal de Physique II, EDP Sciences, 1993, 3 (4), pp.515-530. <10.1051/jp2:1993148>. <jpa-00247851> HAL Id: jpa-00247851 https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/jpa-00247851 Submitted on 1 Jan 1993 HAL is a multi-disciplinary open access archive for the deposit and dissemination of scientific research documents, whether they are published or not. The documents may come from teaching and research institutions in France or abroad, or from public or private research centers. L’archive ouverte pluridisciplinaire HAL, est destinée au dépôt et à la diffusion de documents scientifiques de niveau recherche, publiés ou non, émanant des établissements d’enseignement et de recherche français ou étrangers, des laboratoires publics ou privés. J. Phys. II France (1993) 3 515-530 1993, APRIL 515 PAGE Classification Physics Abstracts 42.20J 66.10C 82.70D Transient 61.25 behavior T-jump relaxations and L~ (sponge) the phase : experiments (I) G. Waton ii) Laboratoire Pasteur, 4 and G. d'Ultrasons Blaise rue (2) Porte de Dynamique des 67070Strasbourg Cedex, et Pascal, (2) Groupe de Dynamique des Phases Eug~ne Bataillon, 34095 Montpellier (Received 26 sponge times r~, October We report phase after AbstracL the of and r~ variable intemal variables. We accepted 1992, here on a abrupt an r~ having very while r~ and r~ propose is Montpellier II, time jump. investigation resolved obtain We of the for evidence magnitudes. We show that correspond to the relaxations of interpretation of the transient behavior an quite weakly Universit6 first 026, Case Place 29December1992) temperature different r~ both jump essentially puts the interpretation, r~ corresponds to the degree of symmetry of the structure actually accounts at least qualitatively dependences of r~ and r~ close to the Louis France systematic temperature transition 05, Universit£ France (*), Condens6es Cedex Complexes (*), Fluides membrane relaxation and r~ the to in L~ of that under its experimental sponge-to-lamellar for based related observation. transition to the on idea that the to this of the Moreover, that to r~ connectivity. temperature conserved a According tension. of of relaxation thermodynamic fluctuations, density behavior distinct unconserved transient concentration of is transient three picture This the temperature that indicate this order. Introduction. The anomalous experimental isotropic phase L~ realization of an in an infinite amphiphilic fluid with no long-range order space the static factor and structure some system membrane (sponge phase) provides multiconnected along an the ideal three Equilibrium properties such as the phase stability and dynamical properties close to equilibrium have been extensively studied and in the of being well In comparison, understood. are course understanding non-equilibrium properties is in a rather primitive stage [5, 6]. The present article aims at providing further experimental insights into this problem. More precisely, here evidence the T-jump technique in order to and the characteristic relaxation we measure use times be for dynamical properties of that relevant the the phase. L~ can directions (*) of Associd CNRS. [1-4]. 516 JOURNAL N° II 4 out of equilibrium by a equilibrium state at this goes new the In change in is achieved by sudden temperature. temperature new case, discharging a capacitor through the conducting brine swollen L~ sample. And the relaxation of is using time resolved the observed of the intensity scattered by the structure measurements light very sample. This procedure is here appropriate since L~ phases are known scatter to strongly specially at high dilutions. fluid exhibit Structures in complex often several degrees of freedom at large scale, each of time. In the them having a characteristic relaxation favorable these times are sufficiently cases, different in magnitude and each degree of freedom will relax after the shortest are ones completely annealed and while the longest ones still quenched. The different contributions are thus be resolved separately. can backgrounds : we recall the intemal variables that define In section I we the sum up some of their thermodynamic phases and the scaling behavior of characteristic state sponge relaxation times. The experimental facts are reported in section 2. In section 3, we propose an interpretation of the transient oscillation of I(q) in of the surface tension terrns excess transiently imposed to the membrane by the AT step. The of this interpretation is relevance The of idea T-jump experiment PHYSIQUE DE a sudden increase of its further discussed in section given is to put the to follow abruptly structure how it and temperature the present to its 4. Background. 1. According self the to assembles into isotropically and only two MiIner et al. in a multiconnected in [7], by I) the density the we itself to distinct two characterized area commonly admitted for L~, it is convenient consider the to figure I. The basic features are the following. Most of the amphiphile bilayer defining an infinite surface free of rims and seams. The surface is structure drawing schematic of that the of membrane amphiphiles #), it) the connectivity density Fig. I), iii) the degree of asymmetry vi values assume average n the in subvolumes a per three directions three intemal unit volume per unit Y'between volume subvolumes ~'~vi+v~ I. Schematic structure of the L~ phase. 2' v, divides space analysis given time in the of a is : (proportional of it following the phase at of variables (density And space. and v~. v, Fig. of Accordingly thermodynamical state and « and to handles the » volume or « fraction passages of » in v~. ~~ N° SPONGE 4 equilibrium, At the equilibrium in a and R of the invariance scale general structure). inside/outside structure bilayer the 0. (Here locally is do we = symmetrical the broken, very of cases the surface, the so-called scale.) transiently however of (concentration global be times. The average life characteristic indeed has where related forrn the mid to its variable relevant two It is by deterrnined at can conserved a~ expressing fi the to : ~§ To exp = respect dilute symmetry at T~ with equilibrium, at equilibrium, the conservation relation and the global scale. Note that while a is indeed a amphiphiles), n and Y'are not. Accordingly, we expect first one, r~, is the time of the connectivity. relaxation given « passage ». According to [7] it time r~ of one Out broken 517 EXPERIMENTS consider not spontaneously [8] is symmetry T-JUMP : by a non-linear conservation relation [4, 5] (the geometrical prefactor is related are Since # expect we PHASE 12) B rp~ where is activation the involved energy straightforward frequency of membrane in one elementary change average show to that has r~ the r~ f where is the discussed free at The second time, of the solvent from of r~ bilayer the ar~ subvolume So Ap Ap is the 0, but of the obtain Ap = between Remembering immediately see which # that that relaxation rq~ times # are annealed speculative perrneability factor ar~). and scales are quenched (and are they d~ rather be the « by controlled membrane. assume ar~ The solvent, brine pores » the in the core expect we [7]. membrane perrneability a transport hydrophobic parameter (4) a subvolumes I and 2. if equilibrium At 0) = ~f~. ~~~ These arguments (5) : rq~ fi and It is symmetry. can we Simple scaling #~~(f~). like 2 Ap=-fl' We it is generally more = Then, : difference pressure r~ time dv,/dt where the is (3) equilibrium. at scales mechanism, that topology. membrane through the imperrneable to quite equilibrium density of average transport bilayer. of area the to actual E~ and passage T phase subvolume I to presumably related the unit per q~, that relaxation is the being rather be to Whatever r the the R(a~flan~) the L~ then in in : lk~ r~ = density of imply energy in [5] length form collisions here = arj a~flaY'~~ #~ #~~ along like (from a specially important therefore (unconserved). they are since must be (6) d aY'~ the : line they define considered Attempting presumably usual dilution as scaling the predict their strongly system to time conserved argument [5]), we arj). (constant scales variables) relative below and magnitudes dependent (due which beyond would to the JOURNAL 518 Experimental 2. PHYSIQUE DE N° II 4 facts. experimental set up has been in detail in [9]. The amplitude AT of the T step The described imposed to the sample (typically a few tenths of a °C) is adjusted by monitoring the charge tension of the capacitor. A lamp is used to illuminate the sample. Incident xenon-mercury monochromatic wavelengths are selected using interferential filters : A 577 nm and 405 nm. The scattered intensity is collected at two different angles off the incident beam. Combining (q=0.50x10~ cm~', q= wavelengths four of q's and angles, values available are 2.05 x 10~ cm~ ~, q 0.72 x 10~ cm~', q 2.92 x 10~ cm~ ~) so that the q dependence of the = = = relaxation times estimated. be can (0.2 M Nacl) for which we have investigated is the system CPCI/hexanoljbrine The system previously collected the most complete set of structural data [I]. We studied three samples in domain. Their composition in CPCI and the L~ monophasic hexanol (Tab. I) are chosen so that dilution line. Comparing the data they roughly correspond to the same obtained these on samples, we can estimate the dependence of the relaxation function of the times as a volume 0.072). (# 0.026, 0.053, Actually we could fraction # of membranes # # not investigate concentrated samples for which the response is too low and therefore the more signal-to-noise ratio does not allow an appropriate resolution. = Table L~ Composition I. L~ to (g/lOOg) samples. T~~~L~ is T~ , 2.28 2.72 O.053 8°C 3,ll 3.57 O.072 1°C with other critical has system On systems behavior the the other [lO], the related to its the to the present system does not show the breaking at high Y'symmetry spontaneous O-O I I, the L~ phase here rather stops swelling brine. So, at equilibrium, the L~ phase of the the beyond # expelling excess of a symmetric structure hand, dilution = the L~ range measurements structure of the sponge three of final of at relaxation two different processes T-jump experiment, equilibrium values, thus in a L~ L~ phase in (Y'= O) all temperatures, and so we over its samples investigated has samples eventually phase stability : more precisely, all three (swollen lamellar phase) upon decreasing with the L~ phase respectively for each sample are given measured temperatures Usually, _+ 15°C temperature down of temperature 0.026 Upon increasing simply phase separates stability. (g/lOOg) n-hexanol dilutions. jump the .41 contrast present investigated the 1.09 characteristic and = transition. GPO In of = could The temperature. in table evidence I. We domain a separate transition perforrned interesting of limited T- slowing approaching the L~ to L~ transition temperature. intensity varies monotonically from its initial evolution of the system reflecting the monotonic towards when the scattered N° SPONGE 4 final its In state. typical the response intensity scattered scattering is quite especially present insensitive intensity typically very large temperature here, is the to the behavior is by scattered few a : the 519 note, that the initial and This is actually consistent other. each to that EXPERIMENTS samples, figure in close very have shown are which data T-JUMP : phase sponge 2. First we of case represented is PHASE light static equilibrium at C. per so a : of the values with phases sponge variation or percent different very final But what is (q ) observed transiently in between oscillation identical initial and final values. reaches in the the two almost The amplitude of the O.5 °C) about 30 fb of the equilibrium favorable (most dilute sample with AT most cases amplitude of the effect appears to be roughly linear with the of energy values. The amount injected by the electric discharge into the sample (I.e. linear with An as shown for an example having a large enough amplitude, the monotonic variation in figure 3. Owing to this non transient behavior of the phase can be investigated with a reasonable sponge accuracy. impressive oscillation of I ~ We clearly observe respective characteristic experimental conditions variations of the parameters, the magnitude of the other. the During # other a two more I(q) ri sum I, = analyzed high below 2.05 be resolution changes estimated. x = time first lO~ shown As this due to the uneasy in the x = not : and experimental is In versus that to set well lO~ The up. fitted step is situation is only set one the spite of this difficulty, example given in table II, to sample better with the exponential, a single following step 2 where and of magnitude of be proportional to the it the fast to be too with of onset ~) this cm~ the the experimental of sets the varying behavior all For shape in 2.92 and q (q ) increase made sign. of T. times increases cm~ of the the I similar relaxation results associate we of figure 2b changes from rj, r~ r~ systematic investigation. quickly. For the most concentrated remains pattem which with measurements # and q, : 2b many of the transient variation the parameters of the the in figure performed ranges r~. We deterrnine to intensity (q samples. Actually, detailed analysis is variation can q r~ r,, order time and experimental up the the within in general transient amplitude and step at distinct times three We 0.072 three order appears to 10~ i0' the 0. I o.io I ~ ~ f o - o.05 ~ o.oo - io2 io~ time 1os 11o' -o.05 itf 10~ mlcrosecondes In time Fig. AT 2.-a) step. 0.5 AT = AT step. JOURNAL The °C. b) Same DE b) Evolution of horizontal straight sample II and T the turbidity (intensity line corresponds to intensity experimental of the Evolution PHYSIQUE i°~ microseconds In a) 1°~ 3, N' 4, APRIL 1993 scattered conditions over at q as q's) all initial the 2.92 = in as x figure 10~ 2a function a Sample # value. cm~ but as T a of time 0.053, = function the after 35 °C, T = of time after 19 °C. 21 the JOURNAL 520 PHYSIQUE DE N° II 4 o ] 3 ° ol f ~ E ? ° 2 o o o 0.2 0.4 AT Fig. Amplitude 3. 19 °C, T = Table q II. rj, the of 2.92 = x and r~ oscillation 10~ cm~~ r~ happens under the associate L~ to L~ During ~~ of linear (mS) the AT Sample step. O.053, = = ~2 (mS) t3 (mS) 0.25 4.9 27 460 when r, close conditions with step I with characteristic (proportional to process fluctuations in concentration transition to estimated the diffusion a temperature be can dependence temperature. step (step with no enough time #~~ accuracy measured and 0.053, = 17 °C. T 490 quite # AT. versus 24 same spontaneous function 2.5 to be appreciable a O.51 Moreover, ~ it as roughly is different q~'s. Sample # at q2 (lO+lo cm"2) q~ I(q) of effect The 0.6 (°C) q~~). (dilute samples and low q's), by quasi-elastic light scattering Therefore it is reasonable having basically the dynamics as same the sample. On the other hand, ri shows particular slowing down when T approaches to the no the intensity decreases down second to a samples (# O.026, # O.053), the first two times sufficiently different characteristic in magnitude making so the analysis steps have reliable. At the beginning of step 2, the scattered intensity starts decaying in a non-single within After exponential times q-dependent. while, and that however, the are way a single exponential and q-independent (see Tab. II for an example). This becomes I (q) decay which denote characteristic time, hereafter decreases fast increasing we upon very r~, concentrations. illustrate have plotted in figure 4 the In order to this steep # dependence, we evolutions of r~ evolutions temperature for the two most dilute samples. Actually, these versus interrnediate the second value. For the two 2), most the scattered dilute = = N° SPONGE 4 PHASE T-JUMP : W ~ o Si E m ~ 100 m mm m~ m lo 0 EXPERIMENTS 521 522 JOURNAL DE PHYSIQUE N° II o ~ , « ~ # ~ $ 4 ~ o o 2 o ~ o lo I T °C a) b) . Fig. -a) me he ~ r2)~ close to the L~ to L~ temperature (see Tab.1). r~ 4 N° PHASE SPONGE 4 2 T-JUMP : EXPERIMENTS 1 '~ @ ~ m ~' ~' ~~ l ~ 5 T ' (°ci 523 524 JOURNAL PHYSIQUE DE N° II 4 1 8 ~ ° 6 ~ o~~ d $ 4 ° lo ~ 0 lo 5 20 15 A~ r~ Amplitude A~ 8. vanishes lo # On r~ as T. Same of function a 35 sample in as figure (4 7 0.053). T*. close to to scale found is related 30 (°ci T Fig. 25 as ~ the hand, other is r~ found to in vary steeper a than way neither to or even we r~ corresponds r~(#~~) nor to r~(#~~). However, we must keep in mind that the scaling law for assuming that the permeability of the is the in samples of obtained membrane same r~ (6) is different concentrations condition is in principle satisfied # (identical density of pores). This composition of the membrane in surfactant and dilution line where the chemical along an exact cosurfactant is exactly In the the n-hexanol has appreciable system, constant. present an of no be of proportion solubility in the brine solvent and we know what is to means sure in building up the bilayer. molecularly dissolved in the solvent and what is actually involved for our dilution there is very little chance three samples to belong to the same Hence, exact line. Finally, the most the time is that the dependences observed # present steep can say at we qualitatively in favour of the idea that they correspond to r~ and and for are r~ r~ respectively. r~, # ~~ # ~ observation, this From should conclude that Interpretation. 3. transient The monot6nic identical L~ initial be can behavior and q~~ while process r~ r~ and and r~ therefore typical are and the a consistent however the their with that sample. indirect I values of the other two independent are is related relaxation the r~ to and of supported by r, average while the of to of r~ to the other two observation that r~ effect on the three variables and r~ for any variables ri quantity. quantities. It I,e. show Y'and n steep r~(#~~) and the q-component time of the evolutions in osmotic compressibility of the n found to the to tempting therefore (or conversely). This dependences # versus r~(#~~). must concentration variables sample. We are a here idea first is like vary diffusion hand, other r~ is further seems in fluctuations probed and relate to which keep of state and Y'. The corresponds On of the intemal is vi thus is a, : Interestingly, vector, wave conserved thermodynamical that intemal not. are unconserved scaling expectation (q) essentially measures the mentioned we the a the Therefore, I, section In the variable conserved a values. final by defined unusual. Instead of the classical L~ after the T-jump is very (q ), we here observe a large amplitude oscillation in between almost of of I variations mind in through N° 4 The of purpose of the resistance the the cell are of one interpret mixture. AT + much before final values the on relaxation structural can any susceptibilities related of the since I(q) is almost identical in the very mild variations, transient at least is subjected to strong presumably However, 525 discharge through the sample is indeed to generate a quick Act~lally, the time of the capacitor plus the constant extremely short (« I m ) so that the sample is homogeneously driven the temperature T variation temperature is EXPERIMENTS T-JUMP : electric in new variables to the variation temperature to PHASE SPONGE them the initial final and of intemal three this is and effect The occur. to states. what try we hereafter. First, it will slightly enhance, the effects. We expect that the AT step has two very quick of wave larger than fluctuations of the membranes amplitude of the therrnal vectors curvature d~ of the structural length (diameter characteristic where d is the see average « passage » membrane enhancement of the Fig. 2). Due to the high q range involved, the rise time for such effect is relaxation. The second structural roughness is certainly shorter than any large scale hexanol) both (but especially of the which chemical membrane related to the components more solubilities finite have AT will solvent. time to thus lead This effect a place takes The solvent. of a solubilities portion small molecular at the level the total that so with increase of area of the consequence the the characteristic roughness membrane put to and into membrane again its expect we enhancement temperature the of and under membrane tension. transient Besides simple AT when submitted the that, known accordingly. This electric field electric field is However, kV/cm order of well explode of similar this case, which is In a transient altemative destruction the mixture much longer so, or of due the the transient the structure its recovers than could we completely multiconnected local pressure. vigorous by achieved birefringence observed time the to transient the the streaming relaxation oscillate due where excess be can characteristic longest membrane the onto experiment, imagine that It is occur. electric of the free ions pressure the bilayer. In the present the moving the minutes experiment. discharge. that of discharge might plausibly fields, lipid bilayers electric of the moderate to L~ might a sonication. effects other step, reveals capable is of structure few to brine the dissolution Both the unobservable. very small and basic dissolution have common as a be partial the in in the after a T-jump the of L~ is not totally destroyed after the electric structure supported by is proportional the fact that the roughly guess response electric dissipated in the sample (Fig. 3). The possibility remains that however to the energy infinite small pieces of bilayers are tom off the by the pressure strike induced by the membrane transient electric small pieces immediately close up in the forrn of field. The would then vesicles decorating the remaining infinite reminiscent of the surface. Also, the holes tom pieces would extremely short times (small holes). Then the retum anneal within back to equilibrium requires that the small vesicles reintegrate into the infinite membrane. This implies fusion of therefore local and would take quite a long time typically of the order of membranes So, here again, this mechanism leads transient reduction of the total of bilayer to a area r~. available So in We is the end infinite under surface : initial we is Note mean here just that, the to transient be very the therefore and this that parameter of this surface tension. membrane hereafter assume that further infinite the therrnodynamic At the believe we This tension excess along relaxed the same and area value as before below, that the a~~~ remains is tension. and unobservable), AT step represents after (same the out structural the fi~~~, fi for more membrane as no #) and effective « equilibrium of changes. large scale having integrated wavelength therrnal ripples of the surface (see Refs. [5, II ] frame, although we expect a reduction of the of true area discharge, the effective area (b~~~) remains unchanged as long short leading the steps next quick step (basically here under it put » or structure it is but area density smoothed out details). Within (d) just after large scale of now of the this the structural JOURNAL 526 changes have effective « Any place. taken and » the time scales spite of true « value much shorter enhancement of the a~~~ in express forrn the and r~ d~ ') a* where The absence of of the of (7), it is (around # membrane. fluctuations Y'and length To [8], the in this make Hamiltonian. implies simple forrn for I(a, Y') n, a for =Bo represents and therefore invariance reduce But in through tension possibility is quite clear when the symmetric picture and the I of towards or the the 2 subvolume Accordingly, surface. the Y'are with structure the geometrical a ultimately and a~~~ tension the phases of the free relax same factor of ha fluid we the of here of tension. excess of discussed up discussed simple length a at at Landau in [5] : have dramatic no on the consequences. other hand, B the forrn : (9) )~+B'Y'~+DY'~ optimum value of n at entirely specified by Y' light intensity. build phase, but, expand B in the therefore Y') the the susceptibility the scattered phase the of symmetry amplitude (8) which ~~~' ~'~ I(a, of connectivity order unity. concentration the to of Ba~ + = local membranes density of part (enhances) renorrnalizes energy ~~ +B"~ and there to the is of terra no symmetry in Y', I(a, where is ~ 3 = frozen. as release On fixed a and Y'. definition the Note of the the couplings optimum value that Y'). And a tension. excess intrinsic the local expresses of the increase average square corrections [5, 8] neglect the logarithmic we independent of the actual large scale structure t variables and We depends on the intemal n I(a, its (7) ao is where between towards from area a where A is B decrease ~'~) a0 density and an that invariance scale the considered This Starting towards (1 a* f where be Y'(r) and the quadratic coupling between tension ultimately drives the variations of picture rigorous, it is convenient more The very a that is statement our the between Y'simply O) will = generally, owing to More misfit the partially to effective to of some must Y'(r). I. either the ~ O, = in obvious In Y' of figure surface area Y'(r) linear terra a fi and a~~ area release possibility of reduction effective everywhere with 4 : the represents but transient the to effective both fluctuations drawing aeff density of the rq~, remains « considering again the schematic making a parallel displacement actually yields a symmetrical can related AT) (< d~~~(T)) will there q's (q low density average + than constraints, these is N° II densities. the b~~~(T tension the sense, area » allowing mechanism equilibrium new this In PHYSIQUE DE potential a geometrical Combining ao. (8), 9~) Y') and (IO), ~'~ Y'~. According to the scale Y') takes ~a3(1 = + the a forrn 9~2) : (to) can equilibrium large scale and structure, therrnodynamic specify the appropriate =f-»a (11) characterizing factor (9) i(a, (~,~~~' l~ order we the : ~P SPONGE 4 N° is which values for minimum concentration of a the PHASE equilibrium the determines sample p). ~~ Then ~P can of taken be (1 ao = and R and ao is al the appropriate minimum, is = (14), In independent it is in and variables that o) no, ~~ ha + ~~ , some Hamiltonian linear are of the be B' Y'~ purpose is in different : it is to understand the such p)ao+ (A that: effect (D + expressed and variables initial of the Y'~ term influence the to : diagonalized is combinations (13) , due pattem of the ~'~ 4 Bo n Y'~ temls and Gaussian. the to ~ in a, and H is principle possible (although probably quite complicated derive and the I(q) compute (a(O) a(r)) to so our (12) v/ no Specifying ao manipulations H. after neglect can we susceptibilities at (14) three of Y'. Far In this from limit, couplings between equilibrium. surface transient tension a, on (14). Just after the AT step, the « true » area density is forced towards a value while the connectivity density is still quenched at its initial transient value, this being at the origin of the tension. Corresponding to these transient constraints on introduce fi, we Lagrange multipliers and define H, two lower misfit and H, where y (t) connectivity represents which transient the maintains y(t)a+ =H+ and tension fi at its initial (15) v(t)n (t) is the v in value transient spite of the potential of Hi takes chemical tension. Then ) ao the the : + a 4 reference no lfi~ to But form actual the : Hamiltonian equilibrium the conditions, critical a appropriate be + + the (imposing ~a( ~~ no ao obtains one n ao ~Po(ao, = n Y'(= O) no= 1 and + form the ~P A~P Let : a Bo a, of values 527 EXPERIMENTS T-JUMP : 2 n Bo a Bo B( B'ao~ ~ ao = + (y (t + 3 B( l( y (t ) ao 2 Bo v al (t ) no ) v (t + B' no al a (17) JOURNAL 528 transient the tension Besides, t the ~~ (T are here ~~ AT) and + and Aala versus following mB'(1 forced the y(t) eliminate we = v(t). and equilibrium transient B( Then the takes + a ~~ (T = + a AT ~~ AT) (T 0) + (18) a a AT fl'~(o) fl'~(t) Afl'~(t) : AY'~(t))) ~~ A a B ~~ A : 3 2~~ + a and O) + that form B( with (T imposing and An/n n a simple 4 that, as expected from the former qualitative discussion, we see expressed by y(t) (and v (t)) essentially modifies the susceptibility susceptibilities of the other two independent variables involving also n and a unaffected. remain Minimizing H, values N° II (16) and (17), Considering of PHYSIQUE DE = with scattered Just expression convenient this and the intensity. the T-jump (t after represented by O), of good position a membrane abruptly is nothing Since analyse to shifted happens else the time by down the at of evolution amount an beginning very AT O) is still at its initial B( of Y'is thus = in are area (<O). a /(t the = ~~ A we value susceptibility Y'~(t that so shifted O) = by down (18), the inverse large provided that Y'have the tendency to intensity. However, on According O. = that amount an to be can fluctuations larger than I. Therefore therrnal of the correlatively (owing to the coupling) so does the scattered Thus increasing short time scales (« rq~) the membrane is imperrneable the solvent. to ( fl~q Y'_ ) implies transport of solvent over distances of the order of q~ ~. Correlatively, some ~ of membrane is also transported from places where 1l'~ is higher towards places amount area where it is lower. Therefore increase in I (q) essentially takes a time of the the corresponding (~q~~) that can be diffusion order of the time measured by classical quasi-elastic light This is basically scattering at the what observe during the step wavevector. same we r, in figure 2. Accordingly, we expect the higher q's of Y'to increase faster than the lowers fluctuations fluctuations of Y'are first. q's. So just after the AT-jump only the highest q's enhanced Afterwards, time this excitation progressively along lower q's and propagates on, as goes monotonically and therefore and the correlatively Y'~(t) increases relaxes more more excess tension. increasing terra This feed back effect actually appears in (18) where the monotonically B"/B' is much increase A and Y'~(t compensates and more initial the more effect ~~ of A time goes modes of t ~ I(q) longer (at larger a diffusion t ~ the < the rq~, tail than (q) I remain of the I r,, A that of at a dependent perrneability of q Then all are also the the very excited the the observation vector wave and the single not low q (such together (q) decay during the step r~ to B( as of should (Dq~)~ the the same starts initial the decreasing of steps However, efficient ~ r q~ of Y' accordingly increases becomes that excitation the observation and with time due exponential. membrane characteristic and of variable conserved Y'susceptibility AT Y'~(t ) keeps increasing scattered Y'remains Y'modes therefore becomes range rq~, variable. coefficient) Accordingly, t r,) than time smaller as conserved which the intensity the long As decay becomes Tp Then ri after vectors wave (Eq. (18)). at Thus, on. the on ~ Y'is and where t no D is the characteristic partial tension be q independent the when time relaxation. and single N° PHASE SPONGE 4 exponential. Again, what is reported in So, end the at the initial the drift of step tension of Y'~. As time So, during progressively the in value the misfit a experimental 4. Discussion. fact that is r~ tation, based density B"/B' the on surface tension connectivity density, Moreover, it very large. is induced is q actually the far where state possible by as characteristic and vanishes time variables all Correlatively, I (q) should reach its Again this picture is consistent with independent and #~~ dependent. large amplitude of the identical almost as with r~. observation the was two and values. time exponential, single scattered the with relax to progressively § and fi within relaxed and fi is a nicely agree equilibrium interrnediate an allowed now equilibrium way challenging experimental fact light intensity between The fi is (q) decay actually the I on between between final single exponential the misfit further, on their towards the to 529 EXPERIMENTS reached has structure related goes r~, the step shift qualitative expectations experimental section. r~, surface r~. final these the T-JUMP : initial and final oscillation values. of the interpre- Our misfit by the transient between the surface capable of explaining this fact provided at accounts qualitatively least for the area that time evolution of collective diffusion of I(q). So, that expect we I) is rj diffusion the corresponding its single time the to precisely exponential tail) is rq~ the more relaxation time of the the relaxation time of the connectivity. If our is r~ r~ interpretation is correct, the T-jump technique then powerful technique appears as a very providing detailed inforrnation dynamic of the phase. the on sponge little bit further. However, points must be discussed A basic assumption of our at some interpretation is that the respective susceptibilities of Y'and n have very different magnitudes (B"/B'» I ). At the present time, we do not know how these quantities to two measure independently. However, discussed static factor of length in [8], the structure at as L~ phases at least bears two components having different q dependences : one arises from the indirect contribution (via the quadratic coupling) of Y'fluctuations other arising and the one from the direct fluctuations of # (membrane Static light scattering concentration). measureperforrned on various systems [5, 8, lO] (among which the present one) have shown that ments the Y'contribution is always appreciable. Since the coupling between Y'and # is quadratic conditions (and therefore weak) this implies that, even far from critical (moderate # range) the susceptibility of Y'is very much larger than that of #. This observation is indeed in favour of assumption but we definitely in the absence of any conclude estimate of the cannot our susceptibility of n. characteristic features of the I (q) oscillation. B" actually controls, in our picture, all The Since the amplitude AI/I of the higher is B ", the stronger the transient tension. transient effect is related it) r~ (or symmetry and iii) concentration fluctuations of that to amplitudes. On the the transient other hand, tension, shown as r~ Since a2flan~ ~ L~ - L~ phase transition density temperature (L~) somewhere of and a with r~ r~ structure low hesitates connectivity section will deterrnine lower : (a~flan~)~~ again directly controlled actually first order, we the very r~ a B" lower a preceding more density by the actual may and consider (L~). We more value that between therefore Although the approaching the high connectivity of B". when a expect B" to vanish So, the experimental observations (but close to) the transition temperature. (Fig. 7) and vanishing A~ (Fig. 8) are again consistent with picture. The our (Fig. 5) is not as straightforward. In order to interpret rigorously its evolution below diverging situation B", r~ is transition is = that expect we in 530 JOURNAL T, with effect has one on procedure r~ in figure work to which II N° 4 completely the time evolution of (1l'~(t)) including the feedback y(t) (see expression (15), (16) and (18)). This is a difficult presently beyond our capabilities. So, although the evolution of out tension transient the PHYSIQUE DE is comparison with that of r~, we can stress no definite statement description time. the present at on our interpretation fails to provide a very clear explanation. where There is a point however our This point is the level of the intensity in the interrnediate transient equilibrium state at scattered the end of step r~. In figure 2, this level is clearly below the initial and final levels, and this its 5 natural seems consistency observation in with pertains whatever larger interrnediate state is enhancement of Y'fluctuations, values. Indeed, monotonic one than might object connection between the values both I(q) that the of #, Y'(o~ and should this q Y'(~~ be so above expectation average scattered and square is T. we rather In our expect than implicitly amplitude interpretation, 1l'~ in the that, consistently with this below based of the on the initial and final assumption Y'fluctuation and of a the (a~a_q). It is nevertheless Actually, the intensity measures changes in the Y'fluctuations through the in H (or H,) that couples to terrns monotonic Y'~, n and a. Since these couplings are quite complicated, the postulated connexion should be questioned in detail. Nevertheless, it unlikely that complex more seems more a connexion explain the systematic puzzling would observation. Another possibility is that the AT steps sufficient that actually induce produce an appreciable AI(q) to are response, a transient tension large enough to trigger the symmetriclasymmetric transition. In this excess picture, the initial increase (r, ) of I (q) would correspond to a spinodal decomposition related transiently negative value of B(. The lower level of I(q) after r~ (or r~) could be to the explained by the well known fact [8] that the asymmetric L~ scatters light less than the symmetric However, this scenario, involving the symmetry breaking at large scale, one. implies that some well defined threshold exists for the AT step beyond which the transition is triggered. The experimental observation indicates (Fig. 3) rather linear variation the a quite order investigate this point in more detail, perforrned oscillation. In I(q) to we some that a threshold actually under measurements very low AT steps (less than O.I °C). It seems exists but the signal to noise ratio of the under excitation such a low is not good response experimental work is to be done in order to enough for any definite Clearly, statement. more clarify the puzzling point reported in this last paragraph. 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