Minutes of the Historic Preservation Commission
For the City of Hayden, Kootenai County, Idaho
September 4, 2014
Special Meeting: 5:30pm
Council Chambers
Hayden City Hall, 8930 N Government Way, Hayden, ID 83835
Call to Order: Chair Eichelberger called the meeting to order at 5:40pm.
Roll Call of Commission Members: Chair Eichelberger, Vice-Chair Bennett, Commissioner
Johnson and Commissioner Paronto were present.
Flag Salute
1.
New Business
A. Meeting Day and Time- discussion ensued as to the best time of the day to meet for the
best participation. Motion was made by Vice-Chair Bennett for the calendar to show a
regular meeting day and time of the znct Thursday of the month at 4:00pm. Commissioner
Johnson seconded. Motion passed.
2.
Unfinished Business
A. Hayden Area History Book Updates and Assignments
1. Oral Histories Update- Chair Eichelberger gave the following update regarding
input from the fair:
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Randy Henry- 208.691.4151
Henry's Point was previously known as Elmore Beach. There were ten fishing cabins that
could be rented by clients of the Bozanta Tavern. A boat from Bozanta carried fishermen
and vacationers across the lake. Before the level of the lake raised the water level, the end
of the lake was just north of the huge sandy beach that stretches out south of the point.
The "back bay'', to the north and east of the beach was marshy and unattractive but the
walk around the end of the lake was an easy one. A fenced but marshy meadow was
located to the north.
After WWII the five Henry brothers purchased the camp. All five were doctors. Randy has
heard many stories of summertime "mash" sessions that took place. If someone got hurt
on or around the lake it was quicker to visit the Henry doctors that lived at the point than
to go to town. Telephone service wasn't dependable so flaks would just show up. The
kitchen table served as an examination, and sometimes an operating table.
The family tried to buy some land near Rockaway Bay so they could just park cars and boat
across to the land and save time. It's only about five (5) miles on the road but it takes an
extra 10-15 minutes driving time.
The family has pictures taken by photographer Ross Hall from Sandpoint. Randy said he
provided many of the photos that hang in the halls of the country club.
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Regarding Henry's Point...Ruth Nelson related that after her dad retired and moved to
Dalton Gardens he returned to the lake each summer as a caretaker for the families at
Henry's Point.
Movie about Pete Peterson ...A movie company wanted to use the camp for their movie set.
See article from the Spokesman Review from 2011.
Jack Sheehan friend of Pete Peterson's. His father was also a dentist in Spokane,
Washington.
Look at the Coeur d'Alene Press summer of 1964 and 1982 when the diver's found the
wreckage.
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Carl Greene- 208.699.0931
Dad is Robert Greene. The Greene family reside off Lake View Drive at the Arabian horse
driveway. (Mom liked horses.) Moved here in 1963 and purchased 40 acres but have sold
off two lots to the north. Carl is about the same age as Connie Barker Gray's younger
brother Bobby.
Had a beekeeper's booth at the fair. His attention was drawn to our booth because he
recognized the photo of the Stoddard Farm. He knew the prior owners, the
Simundsons/Simunson. They had twin sons named Dave and ???
Carl had many teenage jobs with the neighbors along Rimrock He knew the Harel and the
Rami families. He remembered Mrs. Rami's yellow rosebush. He said that Mrs. Rami kept
house for the Rodells of Rodell Motors. Are Rodells related to Hagadones?
Carl is interested in history and might be a candidate for the commission.
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Chet Morris Looked over our mayor's brochure and said that the Russ Green field picture is out of
place. Also, thought that his mom would have a picture of Lyle Peterson from the fire
station days.
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Lee Hollis- 208.772.6595
Lives on Strahorn Road - has the metal dinosaur at the end of his driveway. He was a
neighbor with Rudy that owned the auto repair shop on Highway 95. He suggested that we
speak with Larry Tipke. He has been around a long time and is a good storyteller. He
might remember some of the dairies and orchards that used to be in the area. Also his
mother, Lorainne Tipke lives on Hayden Avenue just before Ramsey Road. Her husband
was the first policeman in Hayden. She is quite elderly but very sharp.
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Dave Coppom's wife has a print from Leo Photography of the lake taken around 1926 or
1928. Chair Eichelberger looked on line but only learned that the Museum of North Idaho
and Cheney Cowles museum in Spokane were given his collection after he died around
1999. Leo was Leo Oestreicher.
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Ruth Nelson reread Vice Chair Bennett's report.
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Jim Helgesen at 208.667.0501 would like a copy of the aerial view of Hayden.
Vice Chair Bennett gave the following update from the fair:
);> Dana Woods- 208.773.8480- is an in-law of Biola Buehler who owned the
Shamrock Bar and Sunset Bar in Coeur d'Alene. She divorced her husband and
married James Williams who owned property on Orchard Avenue in Hayden
between Government Way and Highway 95. He lived on five (5) acres and later
sold it to Triple Play and the Holiday Inn Express. Buehler's had three (3) girls:
Karen and Kathleen who are both deceased, and Linda Mattoes who is alive and
works at the Sheriffs Office. Vice-Chair Bennett will try and contact her to find out
about James Williams.
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Harold Derting homestead- Vice Chair Bennett was reminded of this gentleman by
a visitor to the booth.
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Rich Doerr talked about Doug and Margaret Casey who lived on Lacey Avenue in
Hayden. Margaret is still alive but lives near Woodland, Wisconsin. He didn't know
too much but if he finds out anything he'll call me. He has her card.
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Dari Delight/Dairy Queen bought by Mr. & Mrs. Gomer Davis and Shirley & Chuck
McCarthy. Mrs. Davis (208.660.9458) has some pictures for her to look through.
When they bought the property, they renamed it to Lil Bear Cabins and Drive In.
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Sharold (Riggs) Jenning and her husband Gordan- 208.773.2157 or 314 W 14th
Avenue, Post Falls. Vice-Chair Bennett has done the history on her grandparents:
James and Bernice Riggs and her mom and dad, Jean and Bob Riggs. She needs to
get her copy of that history and bring it over to her house as she has some
additional pictures which we need.
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Jim Crowe, Jr. & Pattie Crowe- 208.765.8149- talked about his dad who bought
property on the west end of Honeysuckle Avenue where he started one of our first
sub-divisions. He was a professor at North Idaho College around 1965. He lives in
Coeur d'Alene.
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Sheila Uohnson) Coville, Rawley Johnson and Vince Johnson all grew up at Hayden.
Their parents came to Hayden Lake around 1935 to 1938. Vince and his wife Pattie
live in Colville, Wahington where Pattie works for an Optical Office.
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Louise Stevens, a friend of Dean Howard and his parents, came to Hayden Lake
very early. Dean is with the Idaho State Police and his wife Reabel (Hattenberg)
Howard worked for the Power Company for several years. She is related to most of
the Hattenberg's in this area so should be able to find her.
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Connie (Wilmar) Gill is married to Mike Gill. He has two brothers, Jeff and Dave.
Their dad and mom were Tom And Kathi Gill. Toms' Dad, Gene Gill came to Hayden
Lake very early and farmed/ranched 160 acres on the Rimrock. Last driveway on
the east side of Government Way before the stop light on Highway 95. They did
have a daughter as well, her name was Cindy. Tom and Kathi's phone is
208.772.5168.
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Orville Kirking has a nephew who is on the Fair board. Kevin Kirking who called
Vice Chari Bennett as he heard she was trying to locate some relatives of Orville.
They are getting together at the end of September. He has history and pictures.
Orville has a brother, Ken, who is still living in the Coeur d'Alene area.
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Mable Erickson was a teacher at Hayden Lake School from 1925 to 1926 (this was
the two-story frame school). She later married Harold Higbee. Foxy Smith was on
the School Board.
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Laynette (Cronk) Presnell daughter of Marvin Keith and Mary Ann Cronk who lived
on the northeast corner of Ramsey Rd and Orchard Avenue (after the Rigg's). He
was born in 1929 and her mom in 1930, married in 1962. They later moved to the
northeast corner of Dakota Avenue and Ramsey Rd where they built a home on
seven (7) acres and surrounded it by trees and shrubs. It was always referred to as
the 'windbreak house'. They had another daughter, Betty Joe Merduck who was
Miss Hayden Lake, maybe around 1968.
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Jason Conklin, grandson of Irene Zimmerman Woltering, her husband was Harold
who grew up at Hayden, went to school in the two-story school house and then to
the new school. She is still sharp and can be reached at 208.755.2121 or her cell at
208.635.5066. Irene went to school with Thad Piller.
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Gene Smith, he was in the 4H building- 208.773.7877- said that his cousin's
parents, Jim and Julie Smith came to Hayden very early. They had acreage behind
what is now R & L RV on Highway 95. His cousin is with the Worley Historic
Society and should contact her, Sally Holt, her husband is Jerry Holt.
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Ron Wilson- 208.661.5678- might have pictures of his parents, Johnnie and Lala
Wilson, whom I have already done history on. Ron lives at 1714 Garwood Road,
Hayden.
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Mark Neustel, 5806 Dunmoore St, Coeur d'Alene- 208.635.5356- is related to all
the Neustel's who had farms on Prairie Avenue, Ramsey Rd, and Lancaster Rd.
o August and Georgia Neustel - his grandparents - had a son, Harold who had
a son Mark (see above).
o Oscar Neustel, daughter Jackie was adopted and married a Whitemanuncle
o Otto Neustel- Uncle
o William Neustel - great grandfather. His sons were August, Oscar and Otto.
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Joyce Ekness may have some information on Bob Simenson who owned the
Stoddard farm before the Stoddards and after the Whitesitt's. The Simenson's had
twin boys.
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Joyce Ekness also may have some information on Floyd and Clara Nelson who
farmed on the Rim off the Rimrock Road next to the Burmeister's. Floyd came to
Hayden Lake in a covered wagon from Iowa. He wrote poetry and short stories for
the Coeur d'Alene Press. He also raised cattle, had a tree farm and was a dog
trainer. His wife, Clara, was the first lady in Idaho to be licensed to use dynamite.
They used it to blow up the stumps to clear their land for crops. They had children.
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Mike Tayler- 208.290.1611- son of William and Marilyn Taylor came to Hayden
and bought 40 acres on the Rimrock, Lancaster Rd just east of Manning's. They
raised cattle, hogs, crops, they helped form the first 4H club and he also drove
school bus. When they sold their place the new owners, Leonard and Georginna
Hammrich took the old house down and built them a new one. The original barn is
still here and a couple of outbuildings.
They were friends with the Hartle's just east of them and one year when Mike was
12 years old John hired him to take care of their livestock when they were in
Hawaii for a three week vacation. This was the year of the BIG snows, 1968-1969
and Lancaster Rd was closed most of the time because of the amount of snow. He
had to walk thru the drives twice a day to feed and water the livestock. When John
and Maxine got back from Hawaii, they gave Mike $500 for the job.
William was born in St. Maries and Marilyn in Worley. They live at 174 7 Taylor Ln
in St Maries and can be reached at 208.245.3177. William is hard of hearing, so
talk to Marilyn.
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Joyce (Booth) Bock, daughter ofMiltin I and Verna Booth, who came here in 1953.
They bought acreage above Tobler's Marina on the upper road. He was a land
surveyor. He also worked for the Highway Department. Joyce lives at 14597 N
State St, Rathdrum. Her sister, Linda (Booth) Cartwright, has done family
genealogy and can be reached at 208.964.55 73. She works for Hospice of Post
Falls. Joyce and her husband live next to Cecil and Pattie (Harman) Booth on what
used to be Victor Harman's homestead.
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Ken and Kathy Gonser at 4559 E Dodd Rd, Hayden- 208.772.5912- his parents
came in the early 1940's and purchased acreage on the Rim. They also have leads
for other people such as Louis Christen, Hugh Cooper, etc.
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Donna Harwood (not Donna Knudtsen)- this Donna lives at 9295 NAsh St, Hayden
- 208.762.0713. Her husband James Harwood is in assisted living in Coeur d'Alene.
His parents came to Hayden around 1944 to live and farm. His Dad's name was Joe.
Dick Harwood, a State Representative from St. Maries is his nephew. Donna has
pictures and a history of the Harwoods to share.
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Ken and Mary Ruth Dingman from 11922 E Kempton, Coeur d'Alene208.664.9059 -has a brother who is Dennis whom Vice Chair Bennett has
interviewed for the history. Ross, Jr. was Ken's Dad. They may have more photos.
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Judy Brooks - 208.659.4483 - the granddaughter of Arthur L. and Martha Mae
Rude had many acres on Government Way just south of the Clemetson farm
(Walker Furniture now). Arthur and Martha's on, Howard is the father of Judy
(Rude) Brooks. Arthur and Martha had 5 children: one daughter, Gwen (Rude)
Hauck, who's husband Patrick has passed away. She lives on Government Way
next to the Paul Bunyon in those apartments on the southwest side. The Rude's
had a big dairy and later sub-divided their land.
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Court Koep, from 2320 ESt. James, Hayden Lake- 208.661.7484- His grandfather
and grandmother came to Hayden Lake very early. They lived at the corner of
Honeysuckle Avenue and Strahorn Road. They had five children: Ray, Tom, Ralph,
Mildred, and Jeanette. Grandpa and Grandma's names were Hubert and Elizabeth
Koep. Court is a neighbor of Susan Lee. Susan called on 09/02/2014 and wanted
to meet
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Ray Jobes and his wife from 702 E Miles Avenue- 208.772.2044- Ray's parents
came to Hayden Lake around 1952 and lived on Lacey Avenue. Marge worked at
the Post Office for many years. He has some history on them and pictures.
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Ray may also have some information on the Irwin Dairy, located on the northwest
corner of Maple Street and Lacey Avenue. The farm outbuildings including the
barn are still there. When the Irwin's sold they sold to a Bob Miller who started a
Body Shop in the barn. Ray will search out about the Irwin's. He thinks he has
some pictures.
Russ Brown is now with Kootenai County Historic Preservation Commission.
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Don Pischner and Larry Strobel are with the Museum of North Idaho and manned
the booth.
Vice-Chair Bennett has known all three of the above gentleman forever. They
laughed, joked and told old stories, usually about others, but a few on themselves.
Vice-Chair Bennett has leads on the following:
o Pete and Flossie Petersen, who lived on five acres on Hayden Avenue. They
raised some cattle, did some farming, Pete found work at Kaiser. They were
here until 1944.
o Vern Perry had rental boats, cabins, and a small Marina on Hayden Lake. His
daughter is living Spokane.
2. Wild Animals, Hunting, and Bounties - assigned for completion in October
3. Water Irrigation Districts - assigned for completion in October
• Hayden Lake Irrigation District
• North Kootenai Water District
• Avondale Irrigation District
• Idaho Department of Water Resources
4. Local Churches Draft Letter for approval - discussion ensued regarding the
church history request for information letter brought before the commission.
Motion to approve the body of the letter as:
"The Hayden Historic Preservation Commission is working on
finalizing their research for their book of the community and its residents
and would like to include a short summary of the history of your church. Of
particular interest are both the locations of church as well as any historical
stories which you would like to contribute. If you have any photos that you
would like to contribute, we can scan them into a digital format so that you
can retain the original. If you have any questions or would like clarification
of this request, please contact Sharon Johnson, Commissioner at either
208.818.9085 or by g-mail at
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5. Next assignments- Due to be completed in October• Forests - Donna
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• Early Roads - Michael
• Railroads - Judy/Dennis
• Floods - Hayden Lake Dike - Robert/Bob
• Water Irrigation Districts- Donna
B. Facebook question update: In response to the question regarding a Facebook page for
the Historic Preservation Commission is No. The commission can place information on
the main Facebook page, but not on a page specific to the commission. In addition, the
City of Hayden is updating their website, and the Commission may have more
opportunities as a result of those updates. Stay tuned.
3.
Reports
A. Staff
B. Commission
4.
Adjournment: Chair Eichelberger adjourned the meeting at 7:00pm.
Respectfully submitted,
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Donna L. Phillips, Clerk
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