“Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” 11-13 SEPTEMBER 2012 Delta Centre-Ville, Montreal, Quebec, Canada PROCEEDINGS & SUMMARIES PREPARED BY: Tyler D. Rudolph1 Aurélie Bourbeau-Lemieux2 1 2 Biologist M. Sc. [email protected] Biologist M. Sc., Cree Regional Authority. [email protected] LIST OF ACRONYMS CARMA: CircumArctic Rangifer Monitoring & Assessment Network GNL: Government of Newfoundland & Labrador GRH: George River Herd LRH: Leaf River Herd MRNF: Ministère des Ressources naturelles et de la Faune TEK: Traditional Ecological Knowledge “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 2 PROCEEDINGS – DAY 1 September 11, 2012 RECEPTION AND REGISTRATION 09:00 Welcoming Address by Denis Vandal (MRNF) - - - On behalf of the HFTCC, welcome to all representatives 4th meeting of this type: o 1975 (Schefferville) o 1994 (Labrador) o 2001 (Kuujjuaq) o 2010 (Montreal) Caribou = socioeconomic, cultural and spiritual importance, etc. The situation of caribou concerns all stakeholders (e.g. Native and non-Native hunters, outfitters, governments). We are not the only ones in Québec and Labrador to experience problems like these. We are many, and we must work together to ensure the survival of migratory caribou, an emblematic species of Northern regions. We sought a qualified person who would be up to the task of facilitating this workshop and we decided on Louis LaPierre. I ask you to consult his professional career record. Louis holds a doctorate in biology, is Professor Emeritus at the Université de Moncton and he has been the Chair of the Institute for Environmental Monitoring and Research since 1996. He was appointed a member of the Order of Canada in recognition of his contributions to the environmental cause. Introduction of the Organizating Committee members and acknowledgments. Recognition of sponsors and acknowledgements. We wish to encourage productive, respectful discussion. 09:12 Opening Prayer by Bobby Snowball (Makivik Corporation) 09:14 Denis Vandal: Introduction of Mme. Nathalie Camdem (Deputy Minister, Faune Québec), Guy Hétu (Director General of MRNF, Nord-du-Québec region), Pierre Bérubé (Director General of expertise on wildlife and habitat, MRNF), and John Blake (Director, Wildlife Division, Environment and Conservation, GNL). 09:15 Introduction by Louis LaPierre - Good morning. Please be respectful of everyone’s views and also of the time that has been allocated. Please reserve extended discussions for one-on-ones afterward. I wish you all constructive deliberations. HFTCC Migratory Caribou Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 3 Proceedings – Day 1 - Future management of the resource will be different from the past. There are many examples of dwindling resources. Participants have the responsibility to ensure the conservation of the caribou resource for future generations. 09:19 Summary of HFTCC’s 2010 Migratory Caribou Workshop by Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation) - - - Good day. In February 2010 many of the people here today were in attendance; however the context was different. The numbers of caribou in existence at that time were different than they are today. We are interested in three populations (Leaf, George, Torngat) that affect a great number of parties and governments. In 2010 there was a suspected decline in numbers of caribou; the last aerial census had been in 2001 so the context of the discussion was speculative and addressed the need for a new management plan. A plan produced by the HFTCC concerning the Leaf & George River herds expired in 2010. We were seeking perspective on the causes of the decline and ways in which we should approach a new strategy for ensuring their long-term persistence. 2010: Information on caribou populations, human activities (harvest, habitat), management themes and TEK. 2010 Key findings: consensus on herd declines of great concern to outfitting industry and aboriginal peoples (not for sport but for food); estimated declines since 2001 were 15.4% for the George, 13.5% for the Leaf. Noticeable reduction in alpha males (perhaps due to trophy hunting) was also noted, and this was thought to contribute to issues with population reproduction; declines in the size and shape of summer habitat (GRH) and other indicators (LRH); LRH is expected to recess northward and the GRH is expected to remain near Labrador; LRH population trend generally follows GRH. Body condition is declining in LRH but is improving in GRH. Catastrophic decline of the GRH; early action is required. Is the monitoring program doing enough? What can be done to improve it? Detailed information on the harvest of caribou is required, also predation mortality by wolves, bears, etc. Predator control? Parasites/diseases and impacts on population health? Negative interactions between muskoxen and caribou (displacement). Caribou is a fundamental food item for the Crees, Naskapis, Innus, Inuit in both Provinces so this is an issue of food security. Caribou cannot be farmed. Insights were provided by elders in 2010 regarding TEK; caribou movement behaviour and reproductive success seems to have changed either due to declining numbers or climate change (mosquitoes), etc. How do we work with TEK? It is not the same body of data that scientists use. How do we incorporate such knowledge into management decisions? How “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 4 Proceedings – Day 1 - - can we build a stronger, better bridge between users and managers? How can all types of available information be better used? Today: situation is much more severe, particularly with respect to the GRH. Past decisions were, in hindsight, questionable, and some issues even ended up in court. This is costly and doesn’t necessarily improve conditions for caribou. Let us hope we can achieve some successful results through this workshop, ideally ending with some management recommendations / decisions that can be applied to the three different herds. In memoriam: Cree elder John Petagumskum, passed away 15 January 2011, who encouraged respect for caribou and eliminating waste of these precious animals. LEARNING FROM APPROACHES ELSEWHERE 09:37 Natalie D’Astous: presentation of Don Russell, Coordinator of the CircumArctic Rangifer Monitoring & Assessment Network (CARMA). Former biologist in Yukon, focus of research: factors affecting caribou populations. 09:38 Presentation by Don Russell: “Overview of the CARMA Network” - Thank you to the organizers. There have been synchronous declines in circumboreal/circumpolar caribou. Outline: o Status of North American herds Low population levels in 1970, increasing in 1980, rapidly expanding in late 1980’s, most herds on decline by 2000. In 2010 some herds began increasing (e.g. Porcupine), whereas others are still in “the trough”. LRH is still declining but we hope the GRH is at it’s lowest. LRH & GRH are the largest of all North American caribou populations but also experience the largest fluctuations. o Harvest management in recent declines Bathurst herd: relatively large in 1986 (450,000 animals), by 1996 estimated at 350,000; 120,000 by 2006; dramatic crash to 2009 when 22% of herd was harvested. Harvest closure in 2011. Management Plan recommended in 2004 Outfitters restricted in 2006 Emergency Interim Measures by Government of Northwest Territories in 2010, however not implemented until June 2011. Five years between harvest restrictions and implementation. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 5 Proceedings – Day 1 Cape Bathurst herd: ~20,000 in 1992; 11,000 in 2000; very low with 30% harvest in 2005. 2006 survey to confirm 2005 survey Total harvest restriction in 2007 1.5 years from recommendation to implementation Porcupine herd: 178,000 in 1989; 120,000 in 2001; <100,000 in 2009; Comprehensive Harvest Management Plan signed in 2007, adopted in 2010. Workshop in 2001 to explore implications of harvest policy No census possible from 2001 and 2010 Three years between identified need and management action Herd now on the rebound o Management & monitoring during changing abundances Harvest management should be implemented sooner to allow greater recovery time; this could be applied to the LRH at this time, which likely cannot sustain an increased harvest from former GRH hunters. Possible management goal = “reducing fluctuations in abundance” Control harvest, slow rate of decline and reduce recovery time Example of Taimyr herd in Russia: during the increase phase, harvest controlled population size; however once harvest was drastically lowered the herd growth rate increased. The result was a 15-year delay in the peak. o Wolf control See Russell (2010): review of all wolf control programs in Alaska, Yukon, BC, Alberta and NWT. For smaller herds wolf control is effective but only with tremendous $$$. Taking 30% of wolves out of the range every year has no effect on overall populations. Trapping alone has never been effective. Has never really worked for barren-ground caribou o Calving ground protection WWF (Canada): Comprehensive Conservation Plan for calving grounds; reviewing current status, etc. Increasing density on calving grounds at high population sizes LRH & GRH extreme examples, yet very low proportion of tundra, which could have consequences for range quality. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 6 Proceedings – Day 1 - o Comparison with other herds LRH & GRH: cool, moist summers suggest productive cases with less mosquitoes than other herds, though deepest snow and highest potential for icing conditions. o Cumulative effects assessment Information on body size, climate variability, vegetation, and population density all go into an energy-protein model. This can be linked to vital rates (birth, death, etc.) and fed into a population model. Information on the evolution of climate change and development can be used to create different projections and understand partial effects. What are the effects of different harvest policies on herds at different points along size trend? Next CARMA workshop on December 4-6, 2012 in Vancouver. Priorities include managing and monitoring through abundance cycles, calving ground conservation, and cumulative effects assessment. 10:12 Louis LaPierre: Please reduce health break by five minutes to bring us back on track. Thank you. HEALTH BREAK 10:30 Gregor Gilbert (Makivik Corporation): Introduction of Joe Tetlichi, Chair of the Porcupine Caribou Management Board. 10:31: Presentation by Joe Tetlichi: “Overview of the Status and Management of the Porcupine Caribou Herd” - - - Good morning. Thank you to the organizers for inviting me to this important meeting. Caribou is important to all stakeholders. I am from the Gwich’in Nation and I am here to discuss the Porcupine caribou herd. I have been with the Porcupine Caribou management board (established in 1985) for the last 15 years. The herd occupies a vast area of 250,000 square miles and includes Alaska, Yukon and NWT. In 2000 the International Porcupine Caribou Herd Management Board was established. The board would like to see the Porcupine range protected. One of our main goals is to ensure the herd is there for future generations. Canadian Board consists of five aboriginal parties; these parties have the right to enact laws on their traditional lands. The other parties on the Board include the Governments of Canada, Yukon & Northwest Territories. Communities strategically located along migration route of the Porcupine caribou herd (from Alaska to winter range in Yukon), so migration is important and cannot be obstructed. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 7 Proceedings – Day 1 - - - - - - - - From 170 000 caribous, the population reached in 2001 123 000 caribous: Population reduced by 55,000 over ten years; this greatly concerned communities. In 2004 we decided to develop a harvest management plan in case the herd went down lower and created a draft scoping document. We needed a protocol agreement signed by all affected Governments. Then we needed a Draft Management Plan, then a Native User Agreement. In 2007 hunters of the Cape Bathurst & Bluenose West herds (the hunting of which was then restricted) moved over to the Porcupine range to harvest that herd, which greatly concerned resident communities. Then there was a resolution for the conservation of the herd. Between 2004 and 2007 we began consulting different communities (eight communities on the Canadian side). We also formed a working group comprised of two members of each party to flesh out the framework; this took another two years. In the meantime, on their own initiative communities reduced or ceased harvest, or decided to cease harvest of cows (because to take one bull instead of cow gives a lot more caribous 10 years later…). The board is not a governmental organization; it is a management board to give recommendations to governments (e.g. on allocations). In 2010 we produced the harvest management plan. Assigning responsibilities and implementing the plan were important, so in February 2011 we signed the implementation plan, containing actions or milestones that each community is charged with. The Dempster highway cuts right through the home range of the Porcupine caribou herd. This creates problems, including the possibility of overharvesting due to easy access and safety issues. Every year in late August there is a one day closure hunt, to build awareness on safety. Once collaboration is attained, we hope we can reach agreement among all parties. Collecting TEK from aging elders has been important to us, and we have attempted to integrate this knowledge with the scientific knowledge. Now when caribou reach the Dempster highway in early July to late August, there is an immediate closure to the hunt. Defining the exact moment of the closure is not easy. People flocking to all harvest the first caribou creates a safety concern. People employ TEK by allowing the cows to pass, only harvesting the bulls. The Board only provides recommendations to the Governments. The communities have to embrace them in order for them to be successfully implemented. The caribou is near and dear to all our communities so its health and long-term prosperity is important to us. Many challenges face the caribou, including climate change, and we don’t want to contribute to its downfall. The Native User Agreement (used for allocation to different groups) is the responsibility of the users and the communities, not the Board. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 8 Proceedings – Day 1 - 11:01 The fire ban colour scheme (red, yellow, orange, green) is used as a function of climatic conditions, and we use that approach to determine the timing and choice of hunting closures based on estimated population size. There are different management actions associated with different colour classes. People always claim that harvesting is their right, yet because it is a right we have the responsibility to ensure the protection of the resource, and that has taken time for us to understand. Collaboration, involvement of communities, and working together, making sacrifices (hunt less to ensure there are caribou left for future generations), and local policing, all contribute to a successful program. Thank you, merci. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): Introduction of Daryll Hedman, Vice-Chair of the Beverly & Qamanirjuaq Caribou Management Board, Manitoba Conservation. 11:02 Presentation by Daryll Hedman: “Overview of the Status and Management of the Beverly and Qamanirjuaq Herds” - Beverly, Pen Island & Cape Churchill herd examples in Manitoba. Here we work closely with First Nations. MANITOBA: o Four different types of caribou in Manitoba: Barren-ground Migratory (tundra & forest) Smaller-bodied Boreal Forest-dwelling Larger-bodied Coastal Migratory Larger-bodied than boreal caribou Antlers similar in size to barren-ground but shaped like woodland o History/background of Pen Island caribou (see presentation) 63 collars deployed to date, 18 mortalities o Identification of needs o We now have extensive relocation data for the Pen Island and Cape Churchill herds. o Some recent collaring of wolves, although other wolves usually chew off collars. One young male travelled 1,600 km in ten months. One adult female travelled 4,000 km in 4.5 months. o We try to bring an elder from one of the communities out with us when we do caribou captures so they can see what we’re doing. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 9 Proceedings – Day 1 - 11:24 Before doing so we went into the communities and explained what we’re doing. The communities were very opposed to collaring caribou in the summer by water and we have heeded their wishes. Beverly Qamanirjuaq Caribou Management Board: o Thirteen members total o Non Government or regulatory board established in 1982 o Members from Manitoba, Saskatchewan, & Nunavut o Concerned about the future of caribou and the people who depend on them. o Held workshop in 2010 o Issues include climate change, poor hunting practices, predators, and disturbance. o We all need to work together to do our part to help caribou. Summary of the workshop. o Protect important habitats o Avoid disturbance, habitat loss o Take no more than needed Louis LaPierre: Opening of Questions for the three presenters and General Discussion period Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): How many caribou can we safely harvest? I’d like an opportunity for us to place collars as well. I don’t know which Government was doing this but they have stopped and we can no longer follow the caribou movements on maps. For us as hunters this type of information was very useful, especially in the winter time when we hunt for food. I am hoping for more discussion on this. I’m not saying we are going to kill them, we just want to know where they are. We have not known for two years now. Louis LaPierre: The first question concerned caribou numbers. Daryll Hedman (Beverly & Qamanirjuaq Caribou Management Board): I am not a biologist, I am a manager, but I will try to answer your question. We consult the communities to try and understand what the numbers are so we know what percent of the herd we are harvesting each year. I haven’t been very concerned about harvest pressure; I am more concerned with harvesting practices, for example with respect to white hunters who are more familiar with moose, which may injure animals and allow them to escape. With respect to the second question, the Board has done a good job of convincing the communities of the importance of collaring animals to better understand them. With the Pen Island and Cape Churchill animals, we disallow hunting “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 10 Proceedings – Day 1 during summertime. If the First Nations didn’t want collaring, we wouldn’t be doing it. Louis LaPierre: Who funded the collaring? Daryll Hedman (Beverly & Qamanirjuaq Caribou Management Board): It was the management board with Governments. Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): We had similar problems convincing communities to agree to the collaring of caribou, which they eventually did in the late 1990s. At that time hunters were using the collar locations on our website to target animals, which other community members complained about. We therefore removed that information from our website. Alaska Department of Fish & Game and the Canadian Wildlife Service fund our collaring efforts. Don Russell (CARMA): How much you harvest depends on your management objectives. Natalie D’Astous (Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach): When you are in a “yellow” situation with the Porcupine herd, what kind of harvesting rules do you employ? How many aboriginals/users are interested in the caribou issue? Are mining interests represented on the management board? Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): 1) Voluntary cessation. 2) We have approximately 10,000 users. 3) Mining interests are represented by the Canadian Government. Don Russell (CARMA): There is a lot of potential for mining in our territory but not much taking place at this time. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation, Nunavik): Prior to scientific researchers we had traditional knowledge. I am responsible for wildlife management at Makivik Corporation. When our people were nomadic and monetary currency did not exist. At that time hunting was for subsistence purposes and the hunter did not harvest more than he needed for that did not provide anything. If you are on the land with only money in your pocket you will not survive. However if you can hunt, harvest, and clothe yourself, that is how you survive. I was raised that way as a child and Inuit hunters are knowledgeable in that aspect and use the animal as a whole without waste. In the past we traveled without motorized vehicles; by dogsled in winter. There was no pollution in the past, but motorized vehicles (motor boats, ATVs, snow machines) use gasoline which is a pollutant to the environment. To this day I have not heard from any “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 11 Proceedings – Day 1 experts to what extent gasoline is negatively affecting the environment. In my experience, since non-Indians have been involved with the native way of life, sometimes I see animals stranded on ice floes. In the summertime if they cannot find the leader’s trail they get lost or get into accidents. There was a herd of 10,000 caribou that drowned in 1980; we knew why this happened. The caribou is a very vulnerable species. If they are traveling on choppy waters they can drown. We have made efforts to make scientists understand native traditional knowledge but I am interested in understanding the knowledge of other native groups. I have been to see the Saami people who are very skilled and successful at farming reindeer. At the same time there is no combination of science and Inuit traditional knowledge. We would like to see this happen but there is no trust in our knowledge. Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): In our experience scientists are very good at understanding caribou, but that knowledge has limits. In the early years caribou were very plentiful. Ten-fifteen years ago we began seeing numbers drop. The GRH has crashed and is in deep decline. The would have seen the decline coming years ago if they had consulted communities. They rely 100% on collar location data and do not collect information from the communities, which is wrong. If there is no traditional component to their approach the communities are never going to accept it. Inuit communities have great knowledge about caribou and need to be integrated in recommendations. The Porcupine example is something we can draw from to see a similar approach applied in Labrador. What leads might you have to make our efforts more successful? Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): The local people know more what is happening on the land than we do. Every year we consult 20 local experts to better understand what is happening on the land base. Local knowledge is important, but how do we justify using it for management purposes? Example: after ten years with no data, the Yukon Government thought the population was troubled and placed restrictions on hunting off the Dempster highway, yet there was NO consultation with the communities, who saw no reason for an intervention. This almost resulted in a court action but the Government pulled back. The two parties really need to work together to make a win-win situation; consultation is key. Don Russell (CARMA): During the ten-year period without quantitative data, community knowledge indicated the population was in a much better condition based on their ability to meet their needs with a surplus. Without the harvest management plan there would have been no impetus to finalize an appropriate action. The Board treats local knowledge with an equal weighting when considering appropriate management actions. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 12 Proceedings – Day 1 Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): Question for Joe Tetlichi re: Native Users Harvest Agreement (not consequence to land claim agreements). You speak of an international effort involving eight parties. Do any of these parties have legally assured harvest levels and how is their input into the management process considered? How do you ensure compliance? How did you achieve concensus on allocation, and did communities have a protected level of harvest? Does it involve some groups that allocations are more protected than others? Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): That is why the harvest count is so important. People hesitate to give the information on how many caribou are hunted every year. We justified our needs for the harvest count in the Native Users Agreement. Different percentages of the harvest come from different parties (e.g. 15% from Alaska); therefore when we restrict the harvest we do so proportionally. This is advantageous for them. Our next step is to create a Native Harvest Users Agreement implemented in Alaska (Gwichi’in). Compliance is ensured through the protocol respected by each First Nation. Everyone is concerned with caribou declines and wants the species around for future generations. This being said, there are always bad apples and therefore challenges. Dealing with these situations goes back to the communities’ responsibilities. Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): Question for Mr. Blake (GNL representative). I have always provided information to Government regarding my hunting practices. Adjacent to my community (most southerly Inuit community in Canada), we have ~5000 animals identified as the Mealy Mountain woodland caribou herd. Since 1968 hunting of that herd has been prohibited. For 50 years we have pleaded and begged and presented our local knowledge to Government, asking for our right to hunt the caribou for our traditional purposes; the answer has always been no. In four or five years a great number of George River caribou settled on an island and reproduced every year, gradually deteriorating the habitat. We asked for the right to hunt these animals but were denied, yet these animals literally starved to death on that same island. I have traveled all over the territory hunting for over 35 years and I have seen low numbers in the 70s and high numbers in the 90s and the way things are today. Will the Government support a recommended sustainable harvest? The answer will be no, yet we know without a doubt that it can be done. If we are not taken seriously as aboriginal people, we will still be here in 50 years discussing how we still have no right to hunt. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 13 Proceedings – Day 1 12:10 Louis LaPierre: Thank you to the presenters, whose presentations have put a lot of things into perspective. I encourage everyone to follow time allocations as they have. LUNCH BREAK 13:30 Louis LaPierre: Presentation of John Blake, Director of Environment & Conservation, Wildlife Division, Government of Newfoundland & Labrador 13:32 Presentation by John Blake: “Existing Structure for the Management of the Herds (Leaf River, George River and Torngat Mountains Herds)” - - - - Three Designated Caribou Units: o 1) Torngat caribou range o 2) George River caribou range, and o 3) Sedentary Caribou Range (i.e. Lac Joseph, Red Wine, and Mealy Mountain herds). Migratory and sedentary herds overlap during winter. Management Zones: o George River (Aug. 10 – April 30) o Torngat Mountain (Aug. 10 – April 30) o Extension Zones (periphery of sedentary ranges based on presence of large numbers of GR caribou). Accountability for caribou management in Labrador goes to the Minister of Environment & Conservation, considering input from: o Torngat Wildlife and Plants Co-Management Board o Aboriginal considerations o Torngat Mountains National Park Co-Management Board o Nunatsiavut also makes recommendations. GR harvest management strategy: o Prior to 2010: Two caribou per licence Ability to transfer licences Lengthy season (August to April) Outfitting Commercial harvest o November 2010: Quotas Eliminated the commercial harvest and outfitted hunting and licenc e transfer Reduced quota from two to one “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 14 Proceedings – Day 1 - o 2012: Further management action required Bilateral consultations NL & QC Input on BNL/TAH Advisory Committee Aboriginal and non-aboriginal user groups (Labrador) Provide input on management actions No decision-making power Management plan expected in fall 2012. Torngat caribou herd o Largely data deficient 13:42 Presentation by Denis Vandal (MRNF): “Management of Migratory Caribou Herds” - - - Management plan based on: o Population size o Recruitment, mortality, trend o Health and body condition o Migration and habitat use o Portrait of the harvest o Impact of human activity and industrial development Many objectives regarding populations and habitat Many hunting zones reflecting the distribution of the herds Organization: o MRNF Roles Responsibilities Development of the management plan Protection o HFTCC James Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement (JBNQA), 24.4.1 Participate in the development of the management plan Federal, Provincial Governments, Cree, Inuit, Naskapi members o Nation Innu de Matimekush-Lac-John Composed of the Matimekush Nation and Government Advisory role, select committee Provincial wildlife panel Regional wildlife panel - This meeting is important for the MRNF with regard to information and the formulation of the management plan for the three herds and for pursuing discussion following the meeting with various stakeholders. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 15 Proceedings – Day 1 AVAILABLE KNOWLEDGE ON THE TORNGAT MOUNTAINS HERD 13:53 Louis LaPierre: Introduction of Aaron Dale (Policy Analyst, Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat), Serge Couturier (Caribou Biologist), & Eric Andersen (Torngat Wildlife & Plants Co-Management Board). 13:55 Presentation by Serge Couturier: “Scientific Knowledge on the Torngat Mountains Herd” - Torngat: “the Forgotten Herd”, small herd Important to the communities of Kuujjuaq and Nain. Migratory herds are distinct units o Use of traditional calving grounds for centuries Partial range overlap along QC-Labrador peninsula Limited emigration have been reported between George and Leaf River herds (Boulet et al. 2007) Bergerud (1988) introduced the ecotype concept o Migratory o Sedentary Also mountain ecotype, e.g. Gaspésie, Torngat Is the Torngat herd different from the GRH and/or from sedentary caribou in southern Labrador and Quebec? Scientific monitoring since the 1970s: o Reconnaissance surveys Le Henaff (1975): small groups of caribou on all islands and along coastal areas Bélanger & Le Henaff (1985) roughly estimated 5000, and thought it seems as a group of caribou different than the George River Herd o Space use and annual range 1986-2003 (Boulet et al. 2007) Collaring by Stuart Luttich (1988-1995) Eight collared caribou Low survival (average = 732 days) Schaefer & Luttich: Caribou of the Torngat Mountains (1998) March 1997-1999: QC Government & Makivik study to confirm the distinctiveness of the Torngat herd Four radio-collars Low mean survival = 338 days March & April 2011: study by QC, NL, and Torngat Secretariat Ten radio-collars Very low mean survival = 337 days “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 16 Proceedings – Day 1 o Genetic differences Boulet et al. 2005, 2007 (see figure in presentation) Torngat herd is genetically different from all herds except the GRH and LRH. o Body size Torngat caribou are different in size and shape than other types. Bigger than George River caribou o Movement Couturier et al. 2010 Move more than sedentary caribou but less than migratory caribou 14:11 Presentation by Eric Andersen: “Importance of Integrating Aboriginal Knowledge into the Management of the Torngat Mountains Herd” - Traditional knowledge into management? Genuine concern is being expressed by communities about the status of the Torngat caribou herd. For example, in the past caribou would live close to Makkovik and ranged to the west in the Mealy Mountains. In a nutshell, those caribou are now gone. In 1969, people from Makkovik moved north to hunt caribou using ten HP skidoos with sealskin bridles. At that time the trip to Nain would take at least one-two days, whereas today it can be done by anyone in six hours. We need to listen to local people sharing their traditional knowledge. Not enough recognition was given to Inuit women for their knowledge in the past. The more we can work together, land users, aboriginal people and elders, the better. - 14:19 Presentation by Aaron Dale: “Importance of Integrating Aboriginal Knowledge into the Management of the Torngat Mountains Herd” - Seventeen traditional knowledge interviews held between 2009 and 2012 We know Torngat caribou are different Hunted Regionally important for food security, socially, culturally People are concerned that there are fewer today We think they share range with GRH Mortality appears to be high Predation appears to be high Similar population drivers as the GRH and LRH Population distribution is changing Smaller group sizes “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 17 Proceedings – Day 1 - - - Fewer stags Population is declining and very low Research Priorities: o We know very little about numerous important areas o Need future partnerships o Telemetry o Survey o Harvest survey o TEK survey Possible management actions: o Status quo (i.e. nothing, unregulated harvest) o Delay action (more of the same but with continued research) o Take action Predator control Stewardship & education Restrict or redistribute harvest pressure through: A total allowable harvest Sex selection Closed areas Gear restrictions Closed seasons Trip limits Other Two founding principles in the Labrador Inuit Land Claims Agreement (Part 12.1) that are relevant here include: o Conservation, i.e. “the management of wildlife, including the management of human activities in relation to them, to foster Sustainable Utilization and maintenance of natural populations, biodiversity and ecological processes”, and: o The Precautionary Principle, i.e. “if there are threats of serious or irreversible damage to wildlife, measures to prevent the reduction or loss of the wildlife should not be postponed for lack of full scientific certainty”. PLENARY SESSION 14:25 Louis LaPierre: During the open session we can provide comments and suggestions; there will be another session for questions at the end. The plenary sessions are designed to provide information and stimulate discussions that can contribute to decision making. - The Themes are: o 1) Acquisition of knowledge Are there gaps in traditional science or traditional knowledge? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 18 Proceedings – Day 1 o 2) Harvest, sharing and best practices How can this be facilitated? o 3) Protection of seasonal habitats Are they important? Do they still exist? Where do they fit in an industrialized landscape? What kind of protection do they need? o 4) Management and collaborative solutions What are the opportunities? How to reconcile different perspectives? 14:30 Questions and General Discussion Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): It seems as though every party is planning to act unilaterally. Caribou do not recognize our political boundaries. We need to focus on the caribou in particular and not the boundaries. Our people know there is a problem and are prepared to accept restrictions. However if we do this, what are people in Quebec going to do? I don’t get the impression we are going to change the way we have been doing, yet I see an important opportunity to work together today. Willie Etok (Makivik Corporation) from Kangiqsualujjuaq: I am also a hunter. I also grew up with caribou as a source of clothing and food. I am not against what is being implemented but I would like to raise other considerations concerning the caribou of George River. They have not arrived in George River for three years now. We harvested four nearby for the community, not for economic benefit. There were few last year near Kangiqsualujjuaq but this year there were more, yet they are not migrating far south. In the past few years they have almost reached George River but turned around. Wolves and black bears are killing caribou; bears are now seen in the tundra. Ever since I was born we have hunted for animals, but we are careful hunters and make sure we only harvest what is needed. Today we try to distribute what we have harvested to the whole community. In the past I had an outfitting camp for four years but now we are required to stop the harvesters, and I think only local people should be allowed to harvest caribou. With respect to collaring, please be very careful not to place collars on pregnant females. We treat animals with respect and do not interfere with traditional Inuit hunting areas. We now go further to harvest for traditional food. 14:39 Louis LaPierre: Thank you very much for the overview. One recurring theme has been sharing. If there are no other related comments I would like to ask a question to Todd Broomfield: How would you like to see a more integrated, rather than a fragmented, management taking place? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 19 Proceedings – Day 1 - Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): I have never had any specific solution in mind. I think this is something we can decide together as a group, not as individuals. We can achieve a lot if we put the caribou first and foremost and everything else secondary. - Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): I would like to echo the comments of Willie Etok and the Torngat Plants & Wildlife Board. I started hunting caribou in the early to mid 1970s. There were always caribou; if there were none from the GRH we would learn of others in the Inuit territories of Nunavik or Nunatsiavut. On many occasions, either by dogsled or skidoo, we would share knowledge about the location and condition of caribou. This was at a time when the GRH numbers were very low. We must not lose sight of the fact that caribou have been there for thousands of years in a regular hunt by Inuit. Inuit did not overharvest. John Mameamskum (Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach): Thirty years ago (in the 1970’s) at a conference in Labrador City the Naskapi Nation advocated the creation of an Interprovincial Co-management Board. We repeated this recommendation at the HFTCC migratory caribou conference in 2010. The Naskapi Nation has raised the good example of the Porcupine Caribou Herd International Management Board. The Lower Churchill panel also recommended to the GNL that an Interprovincial Management Board be created. Our suggestion that all stakeholders and aboriginal groups be included in such a co-management board still remains. We are at the pinnacle of change with respect to the state of the caribou right now. The caribou is an interprovincial animal, and now is the time to act together to protect it by creating this Board, the success of which will rely on cooperation between Labrador and Quebec. There is no reason why this should not be successful. The HFTCC has itself advocated this Board and we maintain that it needs to become a political reality. Jim Goudie (Nunatviasut Government): Inuit have harvested from the herd for a long time. However the populations are in decline and we are receptive to seeing another recommendation from the Torngat Board based on the latest available science. We have always been open to any kind of co-management. Valérie Courtois (Canadian Boreal Initiative): Question for Nunatsiavut members who are familiar with the Labrador Inuit Settlement Area Land Use Plan, under which there are particular measures for conservation around development in particular with respect to the GRH. My question is has the Torngat herd been considered under that plan and what would be required in order for it to be so? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 20 Proceedings – Day 1 o Response by Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): Management plans currently in place for protecting calving grounds at this time is specifically related to the GRH. I don’t believe the Torngat herd was taken into consideration at that point but the process of incorporating the Torngat herd would likely be quite extensive. Bobby Snowball (Makivik Corporation, Kuujjuaq): Concerning the caribou herd, when I was growing up in the 1950’s they stayed near the shoreline. They started returning to the shoreline in the 1960s and 1970s. We cannot say they remained near the shoreline because they went inland for some time. Inuit members were hunting for long periods of time in the winter, preserving the meat and hunting when the fur is still good to make clothing with. The herd was quite visible along the Ungava shoreline but then absent for many years, now some. These are wild herds, not farmed, so we cannot domesticate and control their movements. Whenever there is overpopulation there is disease and life expectancy decreases. The female meat is better than the bull’s, which is tougher. We therefore harvest more females. We are here to discuss wild, not farmed, caribou. What can we do to take action? What are the next steps? Commercial harvesters and outfitters are a factor in the declines. Are we going to be oppressed by trophy hunters when there is a quota in place? If we are going to allow sport hunters from the international community and our needs are not being met at the same time then we are not being accommodated. We were a nomadic people and we were assimilated. Many hundreds of years ago the non-Inuit also hunted for their subsistence. It is not in the Inuit culture to harvest domesticated animals. There are many predators out there. We have good reasons to start collaborating. Thank you. 14:55 Louis LaPierre: The working committee has developed a series of questions that we would like to pose to you. Theme 1: In your opinion, is the current monitoring program adequate in order to gather the biological knowledge needed to manage the Torngat mountains herd? Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): I would suggest there is a rather large knowledge gap with respect to the Torngat caribou herd. Survey results are quite limited. The data does not seem to be available. As we know, the Torngat herd is present in the national park, yet the aboriginal people are permitted to hunt within the park. Does there need to be restrictions on aboriginal hunting within the park? I don’t believe so; these people need to hunt for food, and there doesn’t seem to be adequate knowledge to support a restriction. I would like to direct this question to the Torngat Wildlife & Plants Co-Management Board. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 21 Proceedings – Day 1 - Louis LaPierre: Please distinguish between subsistence and resident harvest. Judy Rowell (Superintendent of Torngat Mountains National Park): As a Federal Government representative, I am involved in these discussions. We take our direction from the Torngat Mountains Cooperative Management Board and therefore would not be wise to impose restrictions without the consent of the Inuit, the rights of which we respect first and foremost. There appears to be no common view that the herd is in enough trouble that the Inuit are prepared to cease their harvesting. There is not enough information to jump to management restrictions. One of the priority areas for information acquisition is to identify an appropriate study to gather new knowledge upon agreement about what the problems are; then we can go forward in a collaborative way on the necessary steps. Harvesting pressures are not that extreme, and no one on the Cooperative Management Board has identified the need for restrictive measures. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation, Nunavik): I am in agreement with Judy; we are not here to argue but to find solutions. I was a primary negotiator in an offshore agreement. The aboriginal people are supposed to be allowed to harvest in the Torngat Mountain area. However if an endangered species has been identified no one is allowed to harvest it unless there is a danger to a human. If there are outfitters operating within the park this needs to be stopped right away; also the harvest of endangered species needs to be stopped right away. Aboriginal people should have the first right to harvest. Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): Re: resident vs. non-resident hunting in Labrador, this is worth discussing as there is no such concept in Quebec, where we speak rather about resident vs. sport hunting, the latter of which is now prohibited. In Labrador we speak of residents as those residing in Labrador, whereas the aboriginal groups are not classified as residents in the absence of an agreement. People classified as residents could have an important impact on caribou populations, both Torngat & GRH. For beneficiaries of the JBNQA, it is aboriginal rights to hunting first, then sport, and then commercial (which is obviously not sustainable for the GRH at this point). At this time we would suggest that a resident hunt in Labrador is no longer acceptable. Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): A cooperative look into the science and traditional knowledge is a good idea, and we would be willing to look at all new information presented. However until such information is presented we will not be asking our members to cease hunting. The Nunatsiavut Government does not want to see any resident hunting of the Torngat herd, nor the George River Herd. We recognize that we need to maintain better “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 22 Proceedings – Day 1 estimates of the subsistence harvest and we will do a better job of this in future years. This year there was a harvest of 80 to 90 caribou from the Torngat. Frank Philips (Torngat Wildlife and Plants Co-Management Board): It is unfortunate that Ron Weber of Nain is not here. I will try to speak for him. I have seen the numbers rise and fall, and I have worked with collar data. There are different groups of Torngat caribou. Southern animals are different from northern animals. Many are resident animals and have traditional areas. From Nain down to Hebron there have been very few caribou killed over the past two years. My impression is there are plenty of caribou in the northern parts, but in the south there are very few left, especially south of Hebron, where none have been seen for a few years now. We cannot let lack of total scientific certainty prevent us from making management decisions, and there is a problem in the southern part of the range. Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): Willie & I are part of the Co-management Board with Torngat Mountains National Park. In 2009 Aaron Dale and several other people came and presented to the Board the same concerns that we are hearing now. At the end of our meeting, our Co-Management Board concluded that there was a lack of scientific data. As some of our respected hunters from Nunavik (e.g. Willie Etok, Johnny Peters, Bobby Snowball) have said, and as Frank also knows, north of Satilik is a very big land. I hunted there last spring, and for three 24-hour days I was on a snowmobile traveling. When I saw what little distance I had covered in that time I was amazed; it is a very big land. The 2010 survey covered a very small portion of the occupied territory, which is extraordinarily vast. We are protectors of our resources, but there are still animals in a number of areas. Until there is a full, concrete survey done of this area, I really cannot imagine how we could impose restrictions on that herd at this time. With respect to a question by Louis LaPierre, upon discussion with Todd Broomfield, in 2010 & 2011, technically a non-aboriginal resident of Labrador could obtain a permit to harvest one animal in that area (outside of the park) and can still do so today. Frank Philips (Torngat Wildlife and Plants Co-Management Board): Just to clarify, technically there has been a non-beneficiary harvest up until last year (previously two animals, now one). Practically speaking, however, there has always been relatively little (and now no) outfitter hunting and virtually no non-aboriginal resident hunting taking place, so this is somewhat of a nonissue. Jean-Claude Therrien Pinette (Innu Takuaikan Uashat mak Mani-Utenam): I am a young hunter from Québec whose traditional territory is in Labrador. We live “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 23 Proceedings – Day 1 on the Côte-Nord (the North Shore) and we hunt George River caribou. All the discussions we are holding here are major issues for biodiversity. The First Nations have many concerns. We often talk about food security, but I would also like us to talk about identity and cultural health. Caribou are essential to our identity and spirituality, not only for food. It is time that the Innu of Québec and of Labrador mobilize, create partnerships together, discuss, and have a dialogue. The caribou is an animal that is essential and sacred, that is an integral part of our identity and our spirituality. The ancient relationship that the First Nations have maintained with this animal must not be forgotten, that has allowed us to survive in this land. As far as herd management strategies are concerned, I do not believe that hunting should be prohibited as it could well disrupt the transmission of our culture and our identity, especially as an Innu officially residing in Québec, and thus not a Labrador resident. I would like us to ensure the survival of the caribou for future generations. My Uncle Alexandre is able to use all parts of the caribout (e.g. bones, fur, skin, for tool-making); we must preserve and pass on that knowledge. It is not just a question of food security but also identity and cultural security. Even if there were to be only ten years without hunting, it would be ten years in which we could not pass on our tradition and knowledge, and we want to preserve this. George Peters (Nunavik Landholding Corporations Association): Ever since my youth I have hunted caribou. Two weeks ago I saw individuals from the Torngat population. It is time to put a complete stop to commercial and sports hunting opportunities on the Torngat and GRH. Sport and commercial hunting of the GRH has led to a scarcity of bulls, which in the past I didn’t believe but now I see this is true. I don’t believe we should overharvest when caribou are declining. If there are quotas in place how will they subsist on other species? We need to move forward collaboratively to ensure an increase in caribou populations and to close outfitter and commercial camps. 15:30 Presentation by Louis LaPierre of Theme 2: “If a total allowable harvest level limiting subsistence harvest is implemented, who should be involved in determining allocation of harvest of the Torngat herd among communities?” Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): It should be a co-management board informed by local communities. Aaron Dale (Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat): You could house a Torngat co-management board within a George River co-management board as they involve the same people. We have put forth a proposal about how this could be implemented. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 24 Proceedings – Day 1 Judy Rowell (Torngat Mountains National Park): If we were at a stage where we were to consider limiting the aboriginal harvest, we would absolutely need the buy-in and input from the aboriginal communities. Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): If this were to take place, the decision about allocation should go directly to that local Inuit organization. If we don’t invite the communities we will run into problems. Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): It seems as though we’re putting the horse before the cart so to speak. We hired a consultant to look at our draft scoping document. True, the local people need to make the decision. The harvest management plan we made only required eight people, one representing each party. However we needed senior officials from each Government to move in and make concrete political decisions. There was a lot of compromise and it wasn’t easy. We did a lot of consultations, but communities were aware that political leaders were going to make important decisions for them. Prior to moving ahead with management actions concerning the Torngat, I would suggest hiring a private consultant to review the framework. 15:40 Louis LaPierre: Do local and traditional knowledge play a role in caribou management? Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): From my perspective the answer is a big no. There are some consultations with aboriginal peoples with respect to the GR and TM herds, but our opinions are not being heard. In some areas, some of the time, in other areas, definitely not. Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): We cannot grow our food, we have to hunt for it, so when someone comes and tries to tell you that you have to stop, that kind of approach simply is not going to work. They should not consult with us at the tail-end but at the beginning of the process. Scientifics play a key role in research on caribou and it is good but the problem is when they do not include traditional knowledge. Aaron Dale (Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat): We cannot make actions based solely on scientific knowledge. As far as the GR and LR herds there is very little TEK; however with respect to the TM herd there is very little scientific knowledge. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): To Aaron Dale, I have a lot of compassion for you as you have the same age as my grandchildren and you are saying there is “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 25 Proceedings – Day 1 not enough traditional knowledge, which young people are losing. Our elders use the animals for food and clothing; we have learned to survive in this way. During the negotiations of the JBNQ agreement in the 1970s we were in discussions about guaranteed levels of harvest for local communities, which would compile all records. We are given quotas for beluga whales and polar bears (which are harming people), yet we cannot be oppressed by policy makers who try to make decisions for us. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): Thank you. Some have said that George River caribou were running out of food so were moving inland. Around 1989 we tried to raise our concerns but some have since moved to follow the caribou in with the bush and trees. However it takes 20 years for the food to grow back. As such, we have seen the caribou leave and return again. We need to assert our traditional way of life; I am unemployed and like many others in my community I need to harvest caribou. We have been asking to stop the sport hunt yet it is the Government who grants the permits. In some cases 300-400 men have come to our community to harvest two caribou each for sport; they gave the food to the community but take the antlers back to the United States. There have been some interesting comments here today. I agree with what the Innu (Jean-Claude) said, I think we have to defend our ideas because we depend on harvesting and animals. We should not only be preoccupied by the GRH because everything will be impacted in Nunavik. 15:56 Presentation by Louis LaPierre of Theme 3: “What are your main concerns relative to habitat protection in the current context of the industrial development of the North?” Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): This raises the issue of the Plan Nord. There has been a recent change in Government, but it is reasonable to expect increased development in the north. What control will aboriginal users have over mining developments? This involves railroad and some road construction, port development to ship resources overseas, etc. What tools do the managers and stakeholders have to mitigate and/or disallow such developments, particularly with regard to sensitive habitat areas like calving grounds? This is complex since calving grounds can shift over time. Flexible system where an area can be protected depending on the situation (calving ground), this is one of the considerations that need to be thought about. I do not believe the new federal system of environmental impact assessment will address all of the concerns that will be raised concerning development in the territory. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 26 Proceedings – Day 1 Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): Thank you. We are in dialogue and the purpose of this meeting is to understand each other. We are concerned with how we are going to survive given that we rely on caribou for food. At the time of the signature of the JBNQA Inuit were only 4000, now we are 11 000. Foodstuffs (e.g. milk) are very expensive in my community. Arctic species are at risk of extinction. We need to see some kind of return to a balance, an equilibrium. Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): Our homeland is being developed now as we speak in a way that we have never witnessed before, including forestry, oil, and mineral exploration. In the Nunatsiavut territory we have numerous projects including lower Churchill Falls. The amount of territory staked off by individual claims is extensive. Vast amounts of money (three billion) are being exported overseas from our communities every year, but there is no balance, nothing that comes back to us. We do not have the capacity to mitigate major accidents (e.g. spills) at winter in high seas. A major accident could happen at any location across Canada at any time, and it is easy to say that we have a strategic plan for environmental protection. 16:32 Louis LaPierre: What would be the best approach toward monitoring the subsistence harvest? Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): With respect to the Torngat harvest, aboriginal groups could collect this data, but there is always room for improvement. These people specialize in the caribou hunt; we could ask them for harvest estimates. Louis LaPierre: What confidence do you have in the numbers? Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): We can be fairly confident in the numbers. The territory may be vast but hunters inevitably return to their small villages so it is simple to know who has hunted and who hasn’t. Louis LaPierre: With such a large territory it would nevertheless be difficult to capture that information. Denis Vandal (MRNF): We could make more informed management decisions if we could add subsistence harvest data to aerial survey data. Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): We would need to consult our harvesters prior to moving ahead with any such action. Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): I am involved with several other hunters from Nain in a different approach to collaring animals. In this case people “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 27 Proceedings – Day 1 volunteered traditional information to us about locations and routes and times of year. Several of us canvassed the communities with maps and obtained the information we needed. People tend to voluntarily divulge information about hunting location, number of animal, etc. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): Can Inuit & aboriginal communities compile information and data? We have been working on a project about land use occupancy in Nunavik. No one is withholding traditional information; we are seeking continuity and transparence. Thank you. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): Regarding Mr. Peters’ comment, we proposed Kuujjuaq as the location to collect this information. Regarding the TM herd, here in Nunavik we have the Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board and it is important to consult the Board concerning wildlife management. If there are priorities to identify with respect to caribou conservation, we need to identify a total allowable harvest. We need to also consider the LRH. I urge you to relay any new information and developments in order to inform the wildlife management boards in the region relating to issues of caribou management. They are mandated to oversee these issues. We are not going to give up, even though DFO has implemented quotas on the harvesting of marine mammals in the region. We do not accept this kind of oppression. Between the communities of Kuujjuarapik and Umiujaq there are no caribou in summer (NB: referring to the LRH). I encourage greater efforts to keep people informed and involve them prior to making policy decisions. Our relationship with the other aboriginals is not that strong but we have empathy for them. I urge the communities’ involvement in the development of government policy. Stas Olpinkski (Makivik Corporation): Our community members have agreed to keep a tally of animals harvested. In terms of the trustworthiness of such data, it comes down to trust. If everyone is willing to sit down and work toward a common objective then we should do so, but there is trust required on both sides. Harvest statistics are being collected and will be made available. Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): Caribou are missing from areas where they were numerous before. That doesn’t mean we have a problem, as they could have moved elsewhere, but I suspect hunting is one of the causes. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 28 Proceedings – Day 1 16:52 Louis LaPierre: I will now try to summarize some of the issues of the day. - Theme 1: There is a desire to integrate traditional knowledge and the communities in a climate of mutual respect. We must move beyond consultation. Communities must be involved in the integration of data and in measures to take action. Further, knowledge and the needs of society must be integrated to assess the impacts. The Joint Table must be fair, everyone must receive the same level of knowledge. We must respect differences and try to integrate these differences into decisions. - Theme 2: Priority to Aboriginals who need caribou for food. Consideration must be given to prohibiting recreational and commercial hunting and setting up frameworks for discussion to arrive at a better understanding of what is at stake, and what the needs of each group are. - Theme 3: There is no trust in the two institutions that are currently responsible for assessing the impacts of several industrial activities: neither the federal program, nor the BAPE (Bureau d’audiences publiques sur l’environnement) appears to ensure the preservation of habitat quality over time. The components of the territory that are essential to the survival of the species must be safeguarded. Habitat preservation (e.g. calving areas) is crucial. These essential habitats should not be affected by industrial development. It is our natural heritage and we must ensure its survival together, while always respecting the needs and the desires of the communities as an integral part of decision making. Caribou do not function based on administrative territories but according to their own biology. To do it right, we must advocate the sharing of data. How will we facilitate the process of sharing and processing data? We have a collective responsiblity for ensuring the preservation of the species for future generations. For those who have not had the opportunity to express their opinions, you can write your comments on the sheets provided and give them to April O’Donoughue. END OF DAY ONE “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 29 PROCEEDINGS – DAY 2 September 12, 2012 RECEPTION AND REGISTRATION 08:40 Introduction by Louis LaPierre: Good morning. A reminder to please collect your headsets where necessary for the simultaneous interpretation. 80:45 Louis LaPierre: For those who are previously registered and do not wish to have their names published in the proceedings, please inform April O’Donoughue. For recent registrants, please inform April if you do wish to have your name published in the proceedings. This evening there will be a gathering by and for aboriginal peoples; please inquire for more information. We are aiming to finish by 17:00 today. We will begin with a prayer. 08:48 Opening Prayer by Philip Einish, Naskapi elder from Kawawachikamach. 08:50 Louis LaPierre: A reminder that we need to be respectful of divergent views. Many of the issues that were prevalent in 2010 are still prevalent today. I would ask you to consider what could be done in order to move forward together in protecting this common resource that we all cherish. We all have the responsibility to leave for future generations the same opportunities that we have had. We may not achieve all that we would like to achieve, but we need to make progress and advance further along than last time. AVAILABLE KNOWLEDGE ON THE GEORGE RIVER HERD 08:53 “Changes in the Size of the George River Herd – From Data to Management”; Presentations by: - Katherine Mehl, Senior Manager, Habitat, Game and Fur Management, Department of Environment and Conservation, Wildlife Division, Government of Newfoundland & Labrador; - Vincent Brodeur, biologist, Direction de l’expertise Énergie-Faune-ForêtsMines-Territoire, Direction Régionale du Nord-du-Québec, Ministère des Ressources naturelles et de la Faune du Québec (Energy-Wildlife-ForestsMines-Territory expertise division, Northern Quebec regional; and - Joëlle Taillon, biologist and PhD candidate, Department of Biology and Centre for Northern Studies, Université Laval. 08:54 Katherine Mehl: Thank you all for your time. This presentation will be divided into three sections. HFTCC Migratory Caribou Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 30 Proceedings – Day 2 - Monitoring in partnership (Katherine Mehl) o NL and QC Governments in collaboration with academic partners (e.g. Caribou Ungava) and Aboriginal Governments. o Effective monitoring requires a significant number of active telemetry collars, and sampling has to represent the population in space and time. Informs on movements, migration, survival, helps for aerial surveys, etc. o Nine surveys in total (approx. 1973-2012) Post-calving surveys began in 1993. o 95% decline since 1993 o Interval between survey periods should be proportional to the size and trend of the population o The annual monitoring of recruitment and survival allows for monitoring the population between survey years. Fall classifications Proportion of calves, adult males and females in the population Female survival o Adult survival is estimated from trend between population surveys and survival of collared animals o Defining mortality is difficult and causes may be masked (e.g. diseased animal taken by a predator). Causes include: Natural mortality Disease Predation Legal harvest Poaching Crippling loss o Adult survival + calves = population trend - Research (Joëlle Taillon): o Declines in recruitment (# calves/100 females) since 1985 In 2010 & 2011: only 16 calves/100 adult females (in a healthy population we can expect 40 calves/100 females) Too low to ensure population stability or growth o Adult female survival was 95% in 1984 Require > 85%, yet decline from 71% (2008-2011) – 60% (2011) Male adult survival only 62% (2008-2011) and 58% (2011) Too low to ensure population stability or growth o The proportion of large males has declined since 2007 12% in 2006, 3% in 2011 There is a new disease (Besnoitia tarandi) since 2007 that may have contributed to this. Ongoing research from the Université de Montréal will tell us more. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 31 Proceedings – Day 2 o Body condition Calf birth mass = 6.1 kg from 2007 to 2011 (fair) At weaning (late October) = 51.5 kg from 2007 to 2009 (good) Female body mass (late October) = 100 kg from 2007 to 2009 (good) Good body condition suggests that females and calves have access to adequate quality and availability of summer and fall range. o Changing gestation (pregnancy) rates: 94% (1976-1982), 77% (1989-1993), 75% (2001-2001), 77% (2012) Gestation rates have remained low since the population’s peak o Summary: low recruitment, low adult survival, and low proportion of large males BUT calves and females are in good condition However some factors are potentially impacting a) number of calves produced, b) calf survival and c) adult survival o Factors influencing population parameters, however, include: Disease Issues with habitat quality and availability Incomplete information on habitat quality of winter and summer ranges Accurate knowledge on the timing and location of migration routes Identification of critical calving grounds o Historic changes in location of calving grounds o Recent calving on the Labrador coast Calving ground increasing in size when the population is increasing. Calving grounds are moving. “Wildlife habitat” is a legal habitat protection accorded by the Government of Quebec, however currently less than 10% of the annual calving grounds of the GRH is protected as Wildlife Habitat. In future, protection of calving grounds must consider the dynamic use of space by female caribou over time Main factors known to influence habitat quality and availability: o Effect of caribou itself o Environmental changes: plant growth and migration condition (snow) o Human activities and industrial development: habitat modification and disturbance Northern environments have very low resilience, so human activities and industrial development (e.g. mining, hydroelectricity, roads, railways) can disturb “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 32 Proceedings – Day 2 - caribou, lead to desertion of key areas, and interfere with migratory routes. o Caribou habitat needs should be considered in the planning process in northern environments Climate change o Climate change is happening in northern regions and can impact temperature and precipitation regimes o Effects on seasonal habitats (e.g. vegetation growth, snow depth and melting patterns) o Effects on body condition (e.g. insect harassment) o Consequences of movement patterns (e.g. migration, predation) Predation Satellite collars fitted on wolves and bears in June and August 2012 near GRH calving grounds Future research efforts will focus on predator monitoring to evaluate range use, movement rate, and overlap with caribou space use. Harvest Management (Vincent Brodeur): o Harvest Rate = Harvest / Population Size o Long-term monitoring of sport hunt in Quebec o 2010-2012 monitoring of resident and aboriginal harvest in Quebec and Labrador o Historical harvest rates would require seven different types of harvest information o The estimated harvest rate has been extremely high in recent years (10% from 2006-2009, 6% 2010-2011, 12% 2012) and was likely still too high in recent years. Harvest proposals in recent years are considered unsustainable. o A sustainable harvest rate allows stability increase or decrease depending on management objective. o Population trend is as important as population size in defining a harvest rate. o Aboriginal, resident and sport harvests most likely do not target dying animals, the result of which is likely additive. o The decline trend has been continuous over the past 20 years. o Evidence of improving body condition has not resulted in better recruitment or adult survival. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 33 Proceedings – Day 2 o Current population size estimates are at a historical low (~50,000 at 1950’s low, twice as much as we are seeing today). o Hunting is an additive cause of mortality. o From 100,000 (prior to 2008) to 74,000 animals from 2008-2010, then to 26,000 in 2012 o Projected size next year could be 5,000 o Current harvest rate is unsustainable. o NO FURTHER HARVEST is the only conclusion that can be made at this time. o The future of the George River herd is in our hands. Thank you. 09:33 Louis LaPierre: Thank you for your presentations, which unfortunately do not give us a very positive outlook. We will now make a few announcements and introduce the second portion of today’s activities. 09:38 Introduction of Johnny Peters (Vice-President, Makivik Corporation), Robbie Tookalook (Board Member, Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board), and Willie Etok (Elder). 09:40 Presentation in Inuktituk: “Importance of Integrating Aboriginal Knowledge into the Management of the George River Herd” Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): As we are appointed to carry out a task, we are here to make a presentation concerning Inuit traditional knowledge. In 1939 I was born in Kangirsuk in northern Quebec. At that time there were no caribou in the vicinity but we were educated about them by our elders. I only knew of one white man, the HBC manager in Kangirsuk. My grandparents told us stories about when there were large populations of caribou at one time and they would show us a trail used in the past that was still visible. Inuit traveled by dog team at that time and went hunting for one month or more on caribou hunts. Sometimes they were successful and others not. In the 1960’s in northern Quebec the population increased and they began coming closer to the communities. At the same time the population of the white man was also increasing. There was constant communication between the different communities, some of which were receiving the population and others that were not. At the same time we were informed by our grandparents about other species that fluctuated in size over time. An example of this is the fox: at times we see none, and then a tremendous increase six years following. The lemming acts similarly. The caribou populations also fluctuate but much more slowly. Human activities today are much different than those in the past and I believe this is a major disturbance to caribou and their movement patterns. I can still find old dog sled trails because there is a scent gland from caribou hooves that can still be smelled “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 34 Proceedings – Day 2 today. In the past caribou were very timid but today they are bolder. We have more and more non-Inuit coming into the region; we cannot tell them otherwise, i.e. not to come, but Inuit are very concerned about the wildlife and their subsistence. By Inuit law we take precautions and require a common understanding that their needs to be respect about the Inuit traditional knowledge and way of life. Thank you for allowing me to share this information with you concerning traditional Inuit knowledge. Willie Etok (Makivik Corporation): I was sitting here in 2010 next to a Cree elder that has since passed on, but we will pass along his knowledge as people later will pass along ours. I’m 74 years old. In the past Inuit would work together, whether in Labrador or Kuujjuaq, and help each other but today things are different. However as Inuit people we must continue to work together and despite obstacles we must agree together about the future. In my region there is a great deal of helicopter activity because people are allowed to have fishing permits, even though they say they are following the regulations, but they do whatever they want. Today we see illegal aircraft landing. I am not raising trouble, but these are other factors. I was born and raised in Kuujjuaq and in that past we were clothed only in seal and caribou skins and hunted, and we didn’t worry about anything except the supply of food. When you are there and experience it you understand the land. Today even though we say we are Inuit our young men do not want to follow anymore for other reasons. I do not wish to debate Inuit vs. white people, but it is a fact that there are important differences between the older and younger generations today. I used to follow my grandfather inland in the winter; he would walk very slowly and never take chances. I thought he was slow at first but he never took a rest but always continued walking. He would use the binoculars from afar and if he saw caribou and they were not fighting he would say these are not the caribou we want; he would wait to harvest a big and vigorous male. Even today caribou is our traditional food. We as Inuit ask that you do not have us stop harvesting our traditional food, or at least allow us to harvest some carefully for food. We have seen the scientific presentations, some of which has been true and some of which have not. As young men we were eager to kill the first caribou we saw but we were taught not to kill the leaders because if we did the herd would move somewhere else. Today snowmobiles go back and forth from Labrador to George River. Because of increases in activity we do not see caribou trails anymore and are told they have moved closer to Killiniq (Port Burwell in English). We are selective of which caribou we kill, but in the past few years they have not moved inland to George River. Wolves, black bear, and more and more polar bears are moving to the land. Black bears have increased in numbers, so there are other factors contributing to the caribou declines and we are not the only ones responsible. I have more to say but I will abstain. Thank you for this time. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 35 Proceedings – Day 2 Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): In past years between Leaf River, Kujjuarapik and Umiujaq there is a big lake where Inuit would hunt caribou with bow and arrow (Tasiujaq, close to the Leaf River). This amazed me, but it was our grandparents who practiced this way of hunting. I am very happy that we are working to find solutions but I would also like to share my knowledge. Thank you to the university people for their presentation. However I believe that caribou were meant to be eaten; I believe it with all my being, so please consider that. In the past it was not raining but today it rains and snows much more than before and the ice is thick. Caribou are fortunate to survive because it is more difficult than in the past for them to find food, especially in the tundra. Academic researchers should study this, as it is another reason why caribou have been decreasing. There is an area around Umiujaq that never formed ice because of fast-moving water and caribou sometimes die there, though we do not report this. There is another area where this also takes place. Since the Quebec Government is governing we have requested funding to put fences around that river because it is dangerous to the caribou. To my knowledge the caribou is not wise; even when it is a dangerous area they will travel through to reach their migratory place. I have seen females die there. We surveyed by helicopter and 200 animals died there, not necessarily GRH caribou however. When we see such incidents we inform Makivik Corporation employees. Today we are more prepared and know more because we have a department of wildlife but I want you to understand that caribou are vulnerable. Every year we receive a lot of snow. Today it rains in the wintertime and it freezes the land. Caribou are very tough and look for food in 6 feet of frozen ground, but the only way they can reach their food is with their hooves. This is why they travel inland to the woods. In 1990-1991 the caribou would cross to the Belcher Islands and I have requested a survey there. I think because of poor ice conditions many have died, and this needs to be researched. Around 3,000 passed near Umiuaq, but almost all females and no large males. Usually in our community we killed 3 females to last the winter, but the lack of large males surprised me. 5,000 were seen further inland on their way to calving grounds in May; at this time the ice becomes dangerous and this merits further research. I also believe there are a lot of wolves today and this is a factor in the caribou declines. This is my knowledge; I hope it is useful information. If we are going to come out with a decision to try and increase the caribou you will have to make sure you include the Inuit in the decision making. For example, DFO decided about the beluga whales without our knowledge and imposed quotas on our territory. The information presented here is very useful to us, especially concerning the GR and LR herds. I am happy for the opportunity to speak, thank you. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 36 Proceedings – Day 2 10:13 HEALTH BREAK 10:34 Louis LaPierre: We need to work together to find a solution and a path forward and everyone needs to be heard. Make your points short and clear and we will do our best to pull them all together. The first theme asks: are there knowledge gaps or areas where we would like to obtain more knowledge? How is traditional knowledge integrated and how should it be? We have 30 minutes to address this topic. We will begin with a general discussion with some questions and directions. Note also if you do not wish to make an oral presentation there are forms available and you can write your comments and submit them when you leave. We will now open the floor. PLENARY SESSION Theme 1: Do you agree with the current evaluation of the GRH presented? In your opinion, is the current monitoring program adequate in order to gather the biological knowledge needed to manage the GRH? Does local and traditional knowledge play a role in caribou management? What would be the best way to integrate local and traditional knowledge into caribou management and to foster communication between scientists, managers and users? Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): The excellent presentations this morning demonstrate that there is a tremendous amount of information available about the GRH (both scientific and traditional). We can always dissect things more, but it is obvious that the GRH is declining, in fact it is crashing. The bottom line is what do we do with this resource at this stage in time? This means decision making at a management level that incorporates all the players. This is a population that is shared by two provinces and various user groups. The Torngat example was similar. We have representatives here from Quebec at a high level; unfortunately NL is not represented politically to the same level. I believe we need a co-management approach that incorporates all levels of Government; we need an agreement that leads to a decision. There have been discussions between both levels of Government, but I might ask: are the respective Governments willing to sit down and work together with the stakeholders to establish some kind of co-management process? Joe Tetlichi gave us an example where just such a goal has been achieved with a common resource. That is exactly the situation we are in now, and I challenge both levels of Government to take the bold yet necessary step to put aside the politics and work together to address the management of the GRH. Louis LaPierre: These are very valid points, but relate more to Theme 4. Let’s redirect our comments to Theme 1 for the moment. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 37 Proceedings – Day 2 Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): I agree with the information that was presented by the scientists this morning, to a certain extent. Most of this information was derived from satellite tracking technology. What we get from this are locations where caribou go and remain residents there. How do scientists know where the caribou that haven’t been collared are going? The lack of integration of traditional knowledge is a problem for the communities. What is needed is traditional knowledge about where caribou are going throughout the year. Hunters know such things because they are out there in the field. Two years ago I field dressed an animal in bad shape with skin like sand paper. Elsewhere I know others found healthy animals. There is a lot of information that hunters have about caribou that scientists do not, some of which goes back generations. I would like to see a greater integration of science with local hunter knowledge. Furthermore, we are in a crisis situation right now. If we see a halt to harvesting with no plan and locals are seeing increases in animals, people will be suspicious if they are not incorporated into the process. Bobby Snowball (Makivik Corporation): We received information this morning concerning the surveys conducted by the universities, but I did not entirely agree. If there are 100 caribou, only 6-7% of them will have a calf. I am a traditional hunter, and I know in the winter time females are pregnant, so they are not edible yet. Wolves always follow the pregnant females so they can kill the newborn; eagles are a similar example. Caribou are not having calves anymore, and I would like you to consider why: because other species are following them around. Usually the male wolf hunts for their puppies. Please consider this factor in your assessment of the causes for the decline. Also I used to run an outfitting camp and the hunters went after the big males. Usually Labrador caribou have the biggest antlers. Sport hunters also play a big role in the caribou declines. Inuit do not usually hunt specifically caribou with big antlers, but we consider what we see. We usually get our caribou from other communities these days. For the caribou wearing collars, in the past there was a monetary incentive for returning the collars worn by harvested caribou, yet we know where they are so people would hunt them and this was a mistake. I would like to see this practice stopped of projecting locations of collared caribou. Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): A big knowledge gap that exists is the harvest record. The Nunatsiavut Government has been accurate with this in the past two years but other parties could be better at this and this is something we need to do a better job of. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 38 Proceedings – Day 2 Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): Being able to hunt with experienced hunters, i.e. elders, is a gift. Whenever I choose to go into a new area I contact a skilled resident hunter. I have considerable past experience in planning processes. If only the Government could stop and listen to what people are saying. As Inuit, people come to our community and ask what we know and we generously donate our time. The people come, they record, they go away and they do not come back again. The knowledge base is always strongest with the local people. I am not downplaying the role of scientists, but emphasize the importance of the knowledge of local people. Someone who had to travel a week to find caribou in the 1920’s or 1930’s and thus avoid starving knows a lot more than someone who gets in a helicopter and goes the same distance. Time and time again we have been ignored. Richard Nuna (Innu Nation, Sheshatshiu): I have observed rises and falls in caribou numbers, and I have seen the encroachment of development on caribou habitat. Surveys do not cover large swaths of territory and more money needs to go into better coverage. People are asking aboriginal people to consider stopping the caribou harvest, yet Defence Canada is spending millions to ship food to remote communities. Where the Government spends its money requires investigation. People in our climate do not have the metabolism to survive on a vegetable diet. I am not going to ask people in my community to make that change, because this might kill the elders in our community, and that would be like genocide. Transporting food to northern communities is very expensive. I am 40 years old and spent two seasons in the country with my grandparents until I was 16, at which point I educated myself from the western point of view. I can afford to take a few days off, a weekend, to go hunting. I spent three weeks hunting caribou about four years ago, during which time my sugar levels were normal, because Innu people are adapted to eating country food. You are asking us to shift to a diet of food that will give us diabetes, essentially to kill ourselves. It is not normal to ask a person to commit this kind of suicide. My people will consider measures, but not by the demand of Government or scientists but through their own knowledge and experience. Jean-Charles Piétacho (Council of Ekuanitshit Innu): I insist on speaking in my language because I respect it; I hope my message will be understood. This is not the first time we have intervened in national or international forums; the link between the caribou and the Innu is all we have left because the Governments have taken nearly everything. Often, I say that the economy prevails over ethics. We will not allow the Government to make decisions for the Innu. I am not an Innu of Québec or Labrador; I am Innu, I was born Innu. I understand that you have processes, but this is not the first time we find ourselves here. For ten years, no one has come to see us in our community to “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 39 Proceedings – Day 2 talk about the decline, but now, you seek our participation. In my youth, during the 1960s, I went hunting with my grandparents in the North. I remember being at a lake and I saw a lot of caribou. We were two families, and my grandfather and the other family killed a caribou. We took what we needed; the rest of the caribou did not go away, we knew that because we stayed for several days at this lake. But the Government’s way of doing things is part of the problem. Last year, I received a letter at my home, I answered it but I never got a response after that. We were asked questions, and we answered. We are asked to participate in forums, we are heard, but nobody listens to us. We are told: “they were consulted.” I wrote a letter to the Government of Labrador, and I still have not received any answer. Today it is a problem of jurisdiction: people continue to make decisions for us as they did in the past. Let’s take the example of prohibitions on cod fishing, salmon fishing or migratory bird hunting. We are still being asked today to stop salmon fishing. We have been accepted in Caribou House, there were dreams and if these dreams were not respected, there were consequences. We are in this House, but others came and disrupted our system, they took our place, and now they are demanding that we refrain. There was a drastic cut with our culture. We are worried, and we have been worried for years. What is more, we do not have many resources and it costs us a great deal to hunt. We have constitutional protection for culture. We never abandoned our dwelling. We never accepted being assimilated by this Government. They wanted to build us a community but we refused, we asserted ourselves. As far as harvesting is concerned, just behind us is the Mingan River, and someone told us to stop fishing without consultation and consent. As for participation, we were in territorial negotiations, all the issues were covered, we expressed our concerns, people hear us but nobody listens. It is a question of decisional jurisdiction and we are not part of this decision. As for the decline and how to respond to it, it is clear that we will see how this process unfolds, but the decision will come directly from our communities, Uashat and Matimekush. Valérie Courtois (Canadian Boreal Initiative): There has been a problem of trust with regard to data and knowledge about caribou. You understand, an incredible number of studies have been done on Aboriginal peoples. We are asked how many caribou we hunted, etc. This must be based on a relationship of respect. So if people were part of the decision, there would be less of an issue of trust because it would be established in that relationship. Also, there are different definitions of sustainability. Our concept of sustainability includes the responsibility we have toward the caribou. 11:23 Theme 2: Do you consider that monitoring of subsistence harvest is necessary for the sound management of the GRH? If so, what would be the best approach to efficiently monitor the subsistence harvest of the GRH? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 40 Proceedings – Day 2 Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): I would like to make a comment with respect to the harvest of GR caribou in Newfoundland & Labrador. As aboriginal people it is our right to harvest. The Supreme Court of Canada gave us that right. I find it difficult to go back to my community and convince them that there is a serious problem. As a hunter I have travelled in just about every region of Nunavut, Labrador and some areas of Ungava Bay. Last winter while hunting the Government told us there was a major concern with these animals and that we had to take conservation into mind, yet in central Labrador and anywhere there is a population of caribou there are still many, many non-aboriginal people who participate in the hunt. With this going on, the aboriginal people in this area find it very hard to take and receive that message of conservation seriously. It is hard to receive that message when you can walk into any store in central Labrador and buy a permit that allows you to harvest one to two animals using the same techniques and methods as any aboriginal person. There is no distinction between a non-resident and an aboriginal right. I am being told that as an Inuit hunter I have to restrict my hunting practices when I turn around to my land and see virtually hundreds of non-aboriginal people in central Labrador participating and taking those animals. Rebecca Wilcott (Nunatsiavut Government): Jimmy spoke earlier with regard to monitoring, and we reiterate that monitoring of the subsistence hunt is crucial, in addition to receiving data on the condition of the animals. We have invested in collecting that data and we hope that other parties get on board. With regard to the resident hunt, the Nunatsiavut Government does have a policy respecting the harvest. In the past we have implemented measures in the form of recommendations regarding harvest levels, and this was respected overall in the communities. People were aware of the status and severity of the issue. Even though it was a small measure that was taken we did see results. We recently conducted a survey to determine the level of need of the Inuit, yet this amount greatly exceeds what are considered to be sustainable harvest levels for this year. Kakkiniq Naluiyuk (Inuit, HFTCC): If I go out hunting I observe the caribou first to only get what I need. I have seen caribou in bad condition. In my community we wait until the skin is in good condition and can be useful to us for our needs. In the fall we harvest when the skin is good to make parkas and the food is good but we will hunt whenever we are hungry. Sports hunters are completely different from us and I am sure they kill the first caribou they see. I only kill what is enough for my family and for other people of my community. I don’t want people thinking that Inuit will kill caribou any time of the year “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 41 Proceedings – Day 2 whenever they see one. I hope you will understand and heed what I am trying to say. Serge Ashini Goupil (Innu Takuaikan Uashat mak Mani-Utenam): I have hunted caribou of the George River herd (southwest of Caribou House) for 10-11 years. We had an information meeting this year with our friends of Mushua-Nipi about the state of knowledge on caribou. At this meeting, I was obliged to ask the elders, including Louis Lalo who is here today, to reduce their impact on declining populations by restricting the hunt during their visit. But I cannot ask him to completely stop hunting caribou, it is his life. Me, a young Innu, I cannot tell him to do that, but out of respect for other Quebecers, I told him to refrain, it was hard for me to do that. He told the others that it might be the last time he hunted caribou. We killed about six or seven. Jacques Gauthier wanted to take the caribou back to his community, it is very important for us. We were shown how to kill a caribou, butcher it, us young people will have to be able to show how to kill the caribou, how to respect it. I think it is important to work on the issues mentioned, but people must understand the bond the caribou has with us. It is an honour to bring a caribou back to your house. The bond with the caribou is very important. This bond was taught to me. I want to show my daughters how to hunt and butcher caribou. The transmission of knowledge is going to be one of the key issues in coming years. These issues have to be understood, how are you going to enable us to respond to these issues? It takes work on information, and on validating these issues. Louis Lalo only killed two caribou this year at George River. The importance of caribou varies depending on the group concerned (e.g. Aboriginal community, outfitter, recreational hunter). I do not believe we are ready to answer your question today because it is the first time I see this question. Louis LaPierre : If I have understood properly, you are ready to participate in a dialogue to discuss these issues. Serge Ashini-Goupil : There is a great deal of consultation and validation work to be done now in our communities. In the meantime, there are still caribou in the region and our members are harvesting. Tonight there is a First Nations caucus meeting in which we will be asking questions among Chiefs and trying to make up for lost time. We have responsibilities to assume, but also more work to do. 11:43 Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): We chose not to present detailed census results and methodology because we wanted to leave more time for discussions. However most of the census results are driving discussions about population size. The survey is not based on transect lines, but on collars that have been “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 42 Proceedings – Day 2 deployed during extensive search in the past six years. We have photographed 93% of the active collars (84) and gone out to see most of them. From my perspective we are very objective in our methodology, and if there are animals in places away from our collared animals, then there are few and I would ask everyone to consider this: If there are no more caribou in five years, people will be forced to stop harvesting. We are discussing the right to harvest, and not discussing population size and trend. No one is being blamed, but we are off-task. Anne Kendrick (Policy advisor, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami): We are not only discussing the status and the quality of the information, but there is a will to discuss possible actions in the face of this kind of decline. In the Kecho example, NWT, a population that was estimated at 100,000 ended up actually being more in the realm of 25,000. Louis LaPierre: In following up with Vincent Brodeur’s comment, communities need the resource for food, but what happens when there are no more caribou? Continuing to harvest may drive these populations so low that the added effect of predators and development and climate change may make it impossible for them to recover. Willie Etok (Makivik Corporation): I would like to make sure we avoid impacts on aboriginal people and focus on sport hunters first because we only harvest according to our need. If the Government decide to stop the hunting of caribou, what will we live on? Food transported by air is very expensive. Usually when traditional food is not available we depend on other communities to share. We need to make the priority to eliminate sport hunting. From the Inuit perspective we know that animals are declining, but we need to be informed about other species too. Because of climate change other species can be affected too. Aquuja Qisiiq (Board member, Nunaturlik Landholding Corporation): I have one question for the researchers. I am an Inuk traditional hunter. I have depended on the land and sea all my life; it is my culture. The elders who spoke this morning did not mention what I expected to hear. Regarding caribou along the coast and in northern Quebec, we have noticed changes. When I was a young man it was as though there were no caribou in the world. As I grew older we started to see the caribou coming back. The elders that were alive at that time are very few now, but their wisdom was correct when they said there were many caribou in the past and that one day they would return. I believe that traditional knowledge. If we are going to make policy or regulations against the hunters I will not really believe in that because our ancestors have always been right, about climate change as well. If I was not a “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 43 Proceedings – Day 2 man of the land and shore I would believe everything the scientists say but because I am a hunter I don’t believe some of it. We are not talking about mining activities, of which there are many in the north and this is affecting caribou migrations. We have to be aware of other factors. Ten years ago caribou would migrate near Kanisijuuluaq but since the Raglan mine they have moved away from their traditional routes. Will the researchers conduct more research in the future not only on caribou with collars but caribou without collars as well? Also if you are going to continue your research then please include Inuit people in your work. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): I can respond to part of your comment. Regarding the observations of your elders, there have been historic fluctuations because of caribou and their impact on the land. However I have shown a list of factors that were not present at that time. You have indeed mentioned industrial development and climate change. There are more people in the communities and more human activities in the north. All these factors are new and they are adding to the natural activities of the caribou, so it is not like in the past and that is something we are going to have to consider. Regarding the Raglan mine, we are studying that and will be discussing it tomorrow in more detail. Serge Ashini Goupil (Innu Takuaikan Uashat mak Mani-Utenam): Vincent Brodeur’s question is relevant, but we can turn it back to him. Will the Government ask the mining company that is bringing barrels of gasoline into Caribou House to stop its activities? Before dipping into our caribou quantities, is the Government prepared to take action against the industrialization of the North? Will recreational hunting be asked to stop hunting large antlers? We can have this kind of discussion but it works both ways, and there are many aspects to explore. For example, has low-altitude flying improved or resulted in a deterioration of the condition of GR herd populations? You have done reseach on this, now we would like to have the findings. The Innu have accepted their responsibility but the Government must also do so. Louis LaPierre : At the Institute we always share our data with Aboriginal peoples and we discuss it, but this is not the forum for it today. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): I am not the Minister of Natural Resources. Serge Ashini Goupil (Innu Takuaikan Uashat mak Mani-Utenam): The Government representatives present here today are equally responsible. If tomorrow there is a new mining development project, it will squeeze the caribou. Why do you give permits to mining companies? What environmental monitoring is being done of the daily flights of those companies? Are measures taken to protect “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 44 Proceedings – Day 2 caribou in the calving season? Who will do the monitoring? That is the type of thing that will have to be discussed this week. There are railway projects currently underway that will cut through the lands of two herds, the GRH and the LRH. Let’s talk about that! Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): We have discussed the TM herd yesterday, which is a very small population, and now we are discussing the GRH. As has been shown by the presenters, in the last four years the GRH has not been seen near George River and we know the population is estimated at 27,000. The GRH also migrates to the Labrador side and different Innu groups are coping with this differently and have many issues to address amongst ourselves. We rely on the LRH and have ongoing communication between the communities. These animals now spend their winters around the 55th parallel (further south). We want to have the opportunity to share with you our knowledge and concerns tomorrow when other aboriginal groups will have the opportunity to speak (Naskapi, Innu, Cree). We have allowed the Innu and Labrador to speak more because they are more affected by issues pertaining to the GRH but we ask to be heard tomorrow. Louis LaPierre: That is for certain. Judy Rowell (Torngat Mountains National Park): I have an observation inspired by Serge’s comments. The real missing information here is the absence of a comprehensive management plan, which makes it difficult to discuss what kinds of decisions are going to be made and how they are going to affect the different users. We have the example of Joe Tetlichi and their efforts in developing a comprehensive management plan, and as long as you orphan the question of harvest from the larger discussion that needs to be had we will not be getting far. Natalie D’Astous (Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach): Indeed one of the goals of this workshop is to discuss the subsistence hunt, but why is there a resident hunt in Labrador? John Blake (GNL): A number of measures have been taken in recent years. Harvesting is mostly conducted by aboriginals who are forced to buy a resident licence because of an absence of an agreement granting them treaty rights. For all intents and purposes the resident hunt has been cancelled in Labrador. Richard Nuna (Innu Nation, Sheshatshiu, NL): I have a question concerning this parasite; is it a disease that is transferred from other animals to caribou or did it just surface somewhere? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 45 Proceedings – Day 2 12:19 : Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Fortunately we have a researcher here today who is working on this parasite, Stéphane Lair, and he will be able to complete my response. This is a parasite that is known to exist in other caribou herds and groups of wild bovids; however it is new to northern Quebec and Labrador as we have inaccurate knowledge on the presence of this parasite prior to 2006 or 2007 in the GRH or the LRH. Stéphane will now complete my answer. Stéphane Lair (Université de Montréal): Once in a while Besnoitia tarandi can be found in other species but it is almost exclusively seen in caribou. We do not yet adequately understand its life cycle in nature. Whereas the caribou is likely the intermediate host, we do not know which species is the definitive host. However it is mainly reported in caribou, also deer populations in western Canada. Richard Nuna (Innu Nation, Sheshatshiu, NL): In my twelve years with the Innu Nation we have made significant changes to our conservation strategies for both our communities. In 2003/2004 we had a well-attended caribou conference (also attended by Quebec Innu) as well as meetings with Government wildlife officials. We consequently agreed on a five-year moratorium on hunting woodland caribou of the Red Wine, Lake Joseph, and Mealy Mountains. During that period the GNL listed it as threatened with no Innu consultation. Now we are facing a similar dilemma with respect to the GR herd. In this instance the Innu Nation is willing and probably will take measures on their own accord. We did, for example, support the establishment of a wildlife preserve in the Lac Joseph area, which the Government never supported. We did make the suggestion of a wildlife preserve for the Red Wine herd in our forest management plan, but the Province didn’t support that either. We are also considering very intensive mitigation measures that our agency is recommending to Government regarding mineral exploration and hydro development in Labrador, all of which can be found in our statements on our website. Many people today have fears about the declining caribou, for example over liver flukes and other parasites that caribou have been found with in the recent past. The Innu have avoided eating the livers and internal organs because of this; in the past our elders ate them but today we have fears of these diseases in caribou so by necessity we abstain. That is all I wanted to say. Frank Philips (Torngat Wildlife & Plants Co-Management Board): I agree with Vincent; in five years we may not be talking about caribou. It’s like we’re in a sinking ship arguing about who’s sitting where, and most non-aboriginals have already left the boat. All different groups are talking about caribou meat but “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 46 Proceedings – Day 2 nobody is talking about wastage. I have traveled all over and hunted too and no matter where I go it is not difficult to hear about wastage. Nobody is talking about this, yet if we had avoided it we probably wouldn’t have a problem today. The word respect has not been talked about enough. In the NWT they had the exact same problem: wastage. If there is going to be an aboriginal hunt people need to talk about respect and learn not to be so wasteful. The majority of caribou in Labrador have been harvested by aboriginal people. 12:30 LUNCH BREAK 13:55 Louis LaPierre: In Quebec there is absolutely no sport resident hunting right now on the GRH. Theme 3: - What are your main concerns relative to habitat protection in the current context of the industrial development of the North? - Which seasonal habitats should benefit more from protection? o calving grounds (birth of calves) o summer range (growth of calves) o migratory corridors o wintering range - How to consider the seasonal needs of caribou while planning the development of the North? Jean-Charles Piétacho (Innu chief, Council of Ekuanitshit Innu): This brings me to another concern regarding the Federal Government’s decision to reduce the scope of requirements for the assessment of environmental impacts. We contested this decision to weaken the environmental assessment process to favour the economy. Economics often prevails over the environment in decision making. Eric Andersen (Torngat Wildlife & Plants Co-Management Board): There are nickel deposits being developed in Labrador, and attempts for many years to mine uranium, which we understand to be a very dangerous mineral to develop. We wonder what is going to happen not only to caribou but to other animals residing in that area. We are pleased to be here and I take this role very seriously. I lived and worked as a fishery officer for 28 years trying to work together. The frustrations of aboriginal people are valid, but hopefully we can work together. The better you know people who are close to a resource, the better that you can work together. The oldest delegate from Nunatsiavut is me. The oldest of the caribou also is gone. It has been said custom before law, and we are losing our ways. I am happy to be here today. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 47 Proceedings – Day 2 Valérie Courtois (Canadian Boreal Initiative): The question is poorly formulated. Based on my experience with caribou, everything is connected, so everything is important, and targeting one aspect is not productive. We should, instead of only trying to protect seasonal habitats, try to manage the landscape itself, keeping in mind that all elements of the caribou life cycle should be taken into consideration. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Question for members of Nunatsiavut. Could you give us more information about the LISA (Labrador Inuit Settlement Area) regional plan and its implications for the protection of calving grounds in Labrador? Judy Rowell (Torngat Mountains National Park): There is a draft land use plan, with a set-aside area for protecting calving grounds within the Labrador Inuit settlement area. Once the Government has approved the draft plan it is my understanding that the plan goes over to the Provincial Government for approvals and further discussions. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): What is your time frame and what is the total area covered by the protection and what degree of protection is being planned? Judy Rowell (Torngat Mountains National Park) This really falls outside the realm of what I do on a day-to-day basis for Government. I know the time frame laid out was extended but I am not directly involved. Visually I can tell you it covers what I see to be the major calving areas within the Labrador Inuit settlement area. John Blake (GNL): I am also not in a very good position to respond to this question. I believe the Nunatsiavut approved their portion of the area’s plan, but LISA also. To my knowledge, I would say that it would be around 10% of the calving grounds that would be protected. Serge Ashini Goupil (Innu Takuaikan Uashat mak Mani-Utenam): To implement sound land management, it takes teams of experts who will accompany our traditional knowledge experts to allow us to identify the best protection measures we can have. Like others, we are talking about protecting our bond with the caribou, which speaks to the question of seasonal habitats. It is not habitat protection that is important to the Innu but the protection and transmission of their traditional way of life. As I said this morning, we have to address the impacts of northern development (i.e. roads, mineral exploration, railroads) on caribou and on the traditional way of life of the Innu. Above all, “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 48 Proceedings – Day 2 we must validate what is presented to us. I will not tell you what you want me to tell you; I tell you that we will do that exercise at some point. If you wish, we can engage in discussion with you; is this a Québec Government consultation that you are doing here today, will these things be taken into consideration, are the Innu consulted about a new caribou management plan? I think we are going to continue being reserved about being able to answer your specific questions, but all the habitats (calving areas, summer areas, migratory corridors) are important for caribou. For example, you may know some migratory corridors, but we also know some. Now, how are we going to share that information, who will have the privilege of protecting that information? So there are all kinds of things to be done before we reach the stage of discussing it. Louis LaPierre: I do not believe this is a Government consultation that we are holding today. It is a work session to bring together people and try to learn their opinions. You have made the point very well that doing that in another context should probably be considered. Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): It is important to recognize that development is going to be occurring in one way or another due to global demand. It is also important to recognize that the Inuit want development as well for their own reasons, but not at any expense, and they want to ensure there is some control over what kind of development is taking place and at what pace. Mme Camden was the co-chair on one of the working groups for the Plan Nord and I was there on behalf of Makivik. We brought forward some of the fundamental preoccupations of the Inuit people at that time and they were recognized. We then produced a Plan Nunavik in response to the Plan Nord. We presume Mme Marois will produce something slightly different to the Plan Nord but we will have to wait and see. One idea was to protect 50% of the territory from development, but legislation was stopped due to the elections, even though that tool allowed us some control over development of the territory. For example, the calving grounds could be protected, though this would have to be in a dynamic way that considers changes in caribou space use over time. George Peters (President of Nunavik Landholding Corporations Association): I am president of the Landholding Corporation. There was a community consultation concerning the Plan Nord and addressing road infrastructure. The community of Kuujjuaq was very concerned; however we are more in favour of railroad than road infrastructure because roads are favourable to the Government. The Kuujjuaq River is a migratory path crossed by the caribou from one location to another, and roads could be dangerous to the migratory path of the caribou. This is a matter of concern. Thank you. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 49 Proceedings – Day 2 Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): Industrial development is part of our existence in the North. It became a reality and it is not going to go away. As we all know the world is hungry for these developments. I can only speak to what I know within the limits of my territory. In 2003 exploration for uranium was taking place over a very large area touching numerous communities. There were many concerns over this unknown mineral and there is still uncertainty. The Provincial Government of the day put a moratorium on mineral exploration for three years. The moratorium has since been lifted and there is new exploration. The reality is we have to live with some development. We have become accustomed to high-powered snowmobiles and aircraft. We pay $1.70 for a litre of gasoline. Without the opportunity to gain meaningful employment, which some of these developments bring. People can no longer live on fishing, seal hunting, and trapping. I know development can impact our lands, but I also know we coincide. Habitat protection is very important and I couldn’t distinguish any difference in importance between a calving ground and a wintering ground. Living in the North is very expensive. New snowmobiles are $15-20,000. Power boats can cost up to $60-70,000. We need development, but we need to put a plan into place that will protect what we have. All caribou habitats are important. Richard Nuna (Innu Nation, Sheshatshiu, NL): I am not sure what developments we are discussing but there is a lot of development taking place in Labrador that is bound to affect caribou habitat, our encampments, and migration corridors. The Quebec Government is proposing a road from the bay to here and uranium exploration near an important river in our territory. I would ask the Government to respect our concerns. Natalie D’Astous (Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach): I often travel in the North as a pilot and I fly over calving areas, etc. I think that the protection of seasonal habitats is important. Currently, what we see a lot of in the North is mineral exploration. Before we talk about mining, we must consider that exploration is being done in the meantime without any consultation with the communities. Oftentimes there is no clean-up of exploration sites done. So yes, it is important to protect seasonal habitats but it has to start before exploration begins. I suggest that the Governments should require permits to conduct exploration; in that way, the communities could see the development coming and take part in consultations. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): To Derrick Pottle, I wish our gas was cheap like yours. In our situation we pay over $80 for 10 gallons, it is very expensive today especially if you are unemployed. In 1954 a lot of contaminants were left in our territory. A lot of towers have been built in “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 50 Proceedings – Day 2 Labrador and much garbage has been left behind. The Cree and Inuit are responsible for this area but it would cost $5 million to clean it all up. Those responsible did not even consult us, although some Inuit people were there to dig the holes. Many companies have left their contaminants in many areas of our traditional territory and it could still be happening today. There should be research in this area. When we were negotiating the JBNQA we had little time for reflection and were forced by Government to commit. The Landholding Corporation should be taken seriously. I have seen mining activities right up into Nunavut. We hear a lot about Chinese people who are interested in activities within our region and there are more and more mining operations in our territory, yet as Inuit there is no way to stop these companies. On the Hudson Bay coast we live and hunt a lot from the ocean. But we are only allocated three quotas for beluga whale. The Government needs to wake up and see that it is that way we were supposed to operate at the time of the JBNQA, meaning the local community must really be advised. Very slowly, Inuit people are beginning to own their own homes, yet Government should have been helping Inuit people, especially the Landholding Corporation. We speak of our own rights at Inuit people, the Quebec Government has their own rights too, but they are required to work with the Landholding Corporation. I have been a mayor and have understood this. The JBNQA is not respected by the Government because despite what was agreed upon we have not moved forward in any significant way. It is very very expensive in the north and if you do not have a job you cannot purchase a snowmobile anymore. There are a lot of elders who are unemployed. One cannot make a living on social welfare. People who make decisions affecting Inuit people need to consider these facts. Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): You may ask yourself what side of the fence I am on. Whether we are talking about development in the Western Arctic, the James Bay, or in Labrador, there is big money at play and there is a lot of pressure on our people to allow these developments to take place. We are not going to stop these projects from putting billions of dollars into our economy, but we have success stories; for example Voisey’s Bay. It runs from Labrador Sea, with shipping twelve months of the year. There is an Inuitowned company that provides a service to winter and summer shipping. The bay separates Nain from other communities to the south. Our progress has not been stopped or impeded by this ship. The ship breaks ice and creates a navigable path for us. Whether or not we like it or support it, there are opportunities for Inuit people with such developments, but that is our choice. At the end of the day we are unable as individuals to stop these developments. However aboriginal perspectives need to be taken into consideration when planning such developments. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 51 Proceedings – Day 2 Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): In terms of control over one’s territory there are Impact and Benefits Agreements (IBAs). It’s a balancing act and one must decide on which side are the benefits and on which side the impacts. There are however rules by which industry must abide with impact agreements, and this is worth noting. Companies should take some responsibility, and conduct monitoring. 14:45 Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Presentation of Theme 4: Do you consider that establishing a co-management system would improve the management of the GRH? If yes, what form would it take (e.g. membership, structure, function, powers)? Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): The bottom line for all Governments is comanagement. I personally don’t see any other alternative and I am wondering what are the impediments preventing this co-management from taking place. It is a shared population. The stakeholders from both Provinces must participate. There is good collaboration and cooperation at the research level, for example. John Mameamskum (Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach): I’d like to follow up on what I said yesterday. The Naskapi Nation has been seeking a comanagement system made up of users, the Governments of Québec and Labrador, etc. and I want to confirm that the Lower Churchill panel recommended to the GNL the creation of a co-management board for the caribou. Now where it will take us depends on whether Governments on both sides of the border will agree to such a system, but I think it is critical that we establish one now for the good of the caribou. With less then 25,000 caribou left, we don’t have much time left. Aaron Dale (Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat): In 1977 when the herd was just starting to increase there was a recommendation from a users meeting for a co-management structure. The Inuit later recommended the same. In 1991, before the peak, co-management was again recommended. In 1991, Voisey’s Bay recommended the same, and then the Lower Churchill example. In 2010, 2011, and 2012 the Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat has recommended a co-management board. Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): Even if we consider exclusive access to all people, if everyone gets their way here there will be no caribou left. There are more aboriginal people than there are caribou left in the GR herd and that’s a fact (if we believe what the biologists tell us). It is therefore imperative that we sit down and work together, and we must tread carefully. We have talked about how aboriginal peoples leave the strongest leaders “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 52 Proceedings – Day 2 alone so they can eventually repopulate the herd. I think the animals remaining in the GRH are the leaders; they will eventually reestablish the herd and that is what we want to see. We do not want to see people taking all the animals, whether Inuit, Innu or Métis. We know they are in a perilous situation and we need to tread carefully and have some really intimate discussions and it is through a co-management system that we can really achieve that. Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): For the record, the HFTCC and native parties therein have been pressing for some kind of co-management process over the last decade. This recommendation was contained within the last management plan, which expired in 2010. If there is to be a total allowable harvest (or total allowable catch, TAC) as we propose, how can the Quebec and Labrador Governments determine this independently? Total Allowable Harvest cannot be determined independently by Quebec and NFL and Labrador Governments. It is the same population, it should be the same vision. Only a co-management board can do that. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): I agreed with Stas this morning when he recommended working with the Government and Innu Nation to work together on the GRH. I don’t think we will find a solution in this meeting. I think we need to reach an agreement between Innu and Inuit because there appears to be disagreement between us. Allowable permits also need to be discussed. Tomorrow we will be discussing the LRH, but once aboriginal people reach an agreement I think we will come up with a better solution. Someone said they would consult their people and find a solution and I think we need to do this: inform and consult first concerning the GRH. For example, after we come up with a solution we will work on implementation in Nunavik. Here in this meeting there seems to be conflicts, but even if we do not agree completely, I think it would be better to consult other aboriginals including Government; even Government will likely not be the people who act on the matter. George Peters (Nunavik Landholding Corporations Association): We have come to this point and I believe we are reaching a consensus. Our aboriginal meeting this evening is important because this herd is on the verge of extinction. The question was raised: what other obstacles are in the way? There have been mass deaths (10,000) when the caribou drowned near Kuujjuaq, but still the Government refuses to offer their support. The same thing could happen again, and if we want to ensure the same herd exists in our children’s lifetime we need to create a co-management board and we will need this to be funded. There is substance to this dialogue and I expect better results because we will be discussing very positive issues tonight. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 53 Proceedings – Day 2 Jim Goudie (Nunatsiavut Government): re: Stas’ comments concerning total allowable harvest, no, the two Governments cannot work independently. Even if they were to work together there would be pandemonium without a co-management board. Serge Couturier (Biologist): I began my career studying those 10,000 caribou at Limestone Falls for the Quebec Government. I left the Quebec Government late May. We are indeed on a sinking ship and time is running short. If management does not take place in a timely fashion this is equivalent to taking no action. We cannot delay action. If we are closing down all three harvests in the same year this means we are not respecting the priority of use for native peoples. With the status of the GRH we are faced with the disappearance of the herd. I agree we need a co-management system. There are two ways of approaching this. You can use the top-down approach driven by Government where the users are forced to comply, but when the decision process is closer to the user there is greater success. However there is also the bottom-up approach where the user takes the lead role and pushes the management authorities in both Provinces to act quickly and do something. If the pressure is coming from the bottom-up perhaps there is hope of success, but if we do not act quickly to achieve consensus it will fail. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): Thank you Serge, this is exactly what I have been waiting to hear. Government is always sending civil servants to impose their will. I have traveled internationally to Scandinavia to observe the Saami reindeer herding farms, which is very different from our practices. The 10,000 caribou that drowned at Limestone Falls, I took it on my own initiative to put up fencing and hired local people. There is a lack of services and support by Government. I know who can come and build fencing. There are many from our communities who are imprisoned because of lack of opportunities. We need a bottom-up solution. There is a provision that clearly states that aboriginal rights have to be a priority. It is as though the Quebec Government is saying the Inuit are going up to get the caribou with the biggest antlers, yet our voices are silent. The GRH is at risk of complete extinction; we have to take action now. Why are non-Inuit coming to our territory when they are not going to listen to my concerns? It is not pleasant for me to say this but it was mentioned by the last speaker. We will move a mountain by starting at the community level because the Government does not want to comply. Richard Nuna (Innu Nation, Sheshatshiu, NL): With respect to co-management, in our present capacity we act in an advisory role. Aboriginal people are not always respected and heard by our counterparts in Government, and this must be improved if we want to see a co-management situation working. Many “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 54 Proceedings – Day 2 aboriginal peoples follow Canadian law on Crown lands as though their existence was a privilege. The system that has been set up is foreign to our culture; we have no rights, we are wards of the state. We must be careful that such a co-management board would not become like that. In my experiences on boards, when I speak I do not see it written down. Louis LaPierre: Question to Joe Tetlichi; before you arrived you put together the analogy of the forest fire risk colour-coded indicator. You are working on management options with Alaska. Perhaps you have some insight as to how you would see that working. Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): In regards to the colour zone, I think we get our consensus from the protocol that was signed by both parties, which has a lot of weight. Our management plan was not an easy task to accomplish. We knew there was going to be a lot of compromise; people have to sacrifice and it is not easy. People understand the colour zone analogy. The challenge came down to the numbers associated with each zone. Because this had political implications and because the Board was just assisting the working group, which was moving to political decisions which had to be made, those decisions were made by politicians behind closed doors. When people saw those numbers people almost walked out, but accepted the numbers that were given for the sake of the caribou, though it was not an easy task. As for the Alaskan participation, I think the International Porcupine Caribou Co-Management Board carried a lot of weight. Any decisions on the Alaska side needed to be communicated to the co-management board on the Canadian side. Once we tabled the harvest plan and then the implementation plan, we carried these to the Gwichi’in gathering of regional communities. When the International Board was reestablished we took it to them. As Canadians we had to be very respectful not to impose our will. We came to them with respect and told them what we were doing on the Canadian side and then asked them how they were willing to work with us. They were willing to take it to their communities, but already there is not much harvest on their side so they did not have much issue with taking it to their members. John Blake (GNL): The decision to move forward with a co-management approach is more a political than a biological decision so I cannot comment too much on that, though I will say that on a biological basis we have very little time. The type of decline we have documented has not been recorded elsewhere. This fall they’re projecting 22,000 caribou. We are together here to try to work together, which is essentially co-management, but I would urge everyone to recall the biological reality in their consideration of building a co-management structure. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 55 Proceedings – Day 2 Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): I will make a controversial statement. At this point in time I personally don’t feel anything can really be done to stop the inevitable crash of the GRH. Under those circumstances, what really prevents the continued harvesting at some level of those caribou? If it will crash it will crash regardless; it may speed it up, but if there is no harvest at all it is unlikely to reverse the trend. I don’t think it’ll be extirpated, but will reach some low number and begin rebounding sometime after that. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): Stas is not completely wrong, but as Todd mentioned earlier, these animals can be perceived as the leaders of the population, and I would suggest using the term “survivors” of the population. I don’t know if surviving animals have the genetic advantage or increased fitness, but because our harvest is random and not subject to natural selection, I believe every animal we harvest can have an important effect on controlling the decline. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): These academic researchers are indeed credible. We as the Inuit people are concerned that this herd is disappearing but we are not being heard. We do not go against regulations or the law. If our wildlife is extinct how will we replace them? People who are eating nontraditional foods have diabetes. We should take the GRH as an example; we must be heard, they are declining fast. We have to take action, we have no other alternative. Caribou herds face challenges all the time; they get into accidents, they have drifted into Ungava Bay, they have faced obstacles during migration that have killed them. There will be a HFTCC meeting in Chisasibi next week; at previous meetings we have discussed caribou issues and the need to draft a co-management plan but there is no interest from the Government side. It is not in my nature to point fingers, whether Inuit or nonInuit, but where there is a need to show support and that support is lacking. This does not help us get anywhere. 15:00 HEALTH BREAK 15:59 Louis LaPierre: I want to look at this picture of a caribou with its offspring in a human hand and let us reflect as individuals. Think of what this animal means to your family and to your community. Think about your responsibility for future generations. It’s a very expressive animal, it‘s a female, there is a message concerning reproduction here. Now look at this slide (fire diagram + clock). Where would you place the fire clock at this time, what color would it signify and why? It takes time to address these complex issues. There is a clock that says one minute to midnight. I encourage you all to think about these diagrams tonight. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 56 Proceedings – Day 2 16h:06 Jean-Charles Piétacho (Council of Ekuanitshit Innu): I would like to present someone I respect a great deal, a recognised teacher among the youth of our community, a person who works very hard for our community, a great hunter, Mr. Louis Lalo, for the closing prayer. Closing Prayer by Louis Lalo, (Council of Ekuanitshit Innu) END OF DAY TWO “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 57 PROCEEDINGS – DAY 3 September 13, 2012 RECEPTION AND REGISTRATION 08:47 Presentation by Isaac Masty of Opening prayer by Chisasibi elder Bobby Neacappo. AVAILABLE KNOWLEDGE ON THE LEAF RIVER HERD 08:50 Louis LaPierre: Today we will be talking about the Leaf River herd. Although this herd is not in as dire a state as the GRH, it is definitely heading in the same direction, and I would encourage all of you to think about how we can improve or even reverse this undesirable situation. 08:51 Presentation by Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): “Changes in the Size of the Leaf River Herd – From Data to Management” - - Long-term monitoring of the LRH by Quebec Government and HFTCC o Caribou Ungava o Makivik o Hydro-Québec Telemetry sampling is considered to be representative of the population Distribution limited to western part of Ungava and no longer mixing with the GRH since 2008 Sampling allows estimation of: o Proportion of calves o Proportion of adult males to females Key elements: proportion of calves and adult female survival o Adult survival is estimated from trends between population surveys o Survival of collared animals Causes of mortality: o Natural o Disease, etc. (see presentation) Adult Survival + Calves = Population Trend First reliable survey of LRH in twenty years in 2011 Interval between surveys should be proportional to the size and trend of a population Able to observe a population trend between 1990 and 2011. o Managers worked with the lower end of the confidence interval since the inaccurate 2001 survey in accordance with the precautionary principle o The population appears to have stayed below 625,000. HFTCC Migratory Caribou Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 58 Proceedings – Day 3 09:00 Presentation by Julien Mainguy (MRNF): “Other Key Elements: Body Condition, Use of Seasonal Ranges, and Migration Routes” - - - - - Recruitment = # calves / 100 adult females o LRH: higher in mid-1990’s o Since 2000’s: 32 calves/100 adult females o Fair recruitment Adult survival is average to good o Fair survival should be > 85% o Adult female survival: 83% (2007-2011) and 82% (2011) o Adult male survival: 66% (2007-2011) and 88% (2011) Proportion of large males has declined since 2007 Body condition: o Calves: 5.6 kg from 2007 to 2011 = low to average at birth 41.6 kg from 2007 to 2009 = low body condition o Females: 92.3 kg from 2007-2009 Average fall condition Good recent gestation rates: 52% (2001-2002), 81% (2010-2011), 84% (2012). In Summary: Fair recruitment, good gestation rates, average to good adult survival and low proportion of adult males. However calves are in low and adult females in average body condition o Body condition of females and calves suggest: low summer and fall range quality and availability, impact of large scale migration movements. o Need to identify factors impacting 1) range quality and availability and 2) space use patterns. Factors influencing recruitment, survival and gestation: o Diseases and parasites Besnoitia: potentially had a significant impact and still present Other parasites: normal prevalence o Habitat quality and availability Good idea where seasonal ranges are Accurate knowledge on the timing and location of migration routes Calving grounds are critical Shifted north 300 km since 1975 Currently in Quebec only 16% of the LRH annual calving grounds as Wildlife Habitat Factors affecting habitat quality and availability Impact of caribou on itself (e.g. browsing & trampling) “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 59 Proceedings – Day 3 Human impacts o Low resilience of northern environments o Disturbance and desertion o Interference with migratory routes o Current industrial developments (mining, hydroelectricity, railways, roads) Climate change o Climate change Effects on seasonal habitats (vegetation growth, snow depth and melting patterns) Effects on body condition (insect harassment) Consequences on movement patterns (migration, predation) o Predation Satellite collars fitted to wolves and bears in June 2012 Future research o Harvest (Vincent Brodeur) Harvest Rate = Harvest / Population Size Long-term monitoring of sport hunters Partial registration of the Cree harvest (voluntary process) Importance of monitoring the harvest is recognized by Makivik Need to define a sustainable harvest rate Sustainable Harvest Rate allows to maintain a healthy population (to attain stability, increase or decrease) Missing Inuit portion of the harvest (estimated at 8,056 for many years…); this is problematic. Population trend is as important as size in defining sustainable harvest rates. Aboriginal and sport harvests are likely additive Reductions in sport hunt of LRH by 25% in 2011 Total sport harvest = ~4,700 The estimated harvest rate would have been high in recent years (almost 8% at 16,754 in 2008) but recently down to a sustainable level of 4%, which should continue into 2012. The LRH has recently declined, but biological indicators suggest the population is stabilizing. The population is vulnerable to decline due to poor body condition and extensive migrations. Need a closer monitoring of the harvest in order to allocate a sustainable harvest rate. Need to develop an updated management plan with stakeholders. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 60 Proceedings – Day 3 09:18 Louis LaPierre: Thank you very much for this comprehensive overview of the LRH. The next presenter is Isaac Masty, president of the Cree Trappers Association. 09:20 Presentation by Isaac Masty: “Importance of Integrating Aboriginal Knowledge to the Management of the Leaf River Herd” Good morning. As I listen to the presentations that have been made over the last few days, I feel we are having difficulty trusting the knowledge that is being presented by both aboriginal and non-aboriginal groups. This is something that needs to be addressed. What is aboriginal knowledge and where does it come from? I have heard statements that TEK is not structured, and that really bothered me. We are people that come from a very complex society with standards and values that guide them through just like other North American communities. Aboriginal knowledge is not gained over night; it is particular to a specific area of occupation. What I have observed and what is relevant to me is different from other aboriginal groups and communities. Like elsewhere, we have specialists in certain areas. For example, no biologist can claim to know everything about all species, and that goes likewise for our people. The primary value in our society is respect, and we all sometimes lose track of that. Stories about respect were taught to children as soon as they were old enough to understand. Wildlife deserves respect. For example, fairy tales were designed to attract the attention of children, and we had a similar program among aboriginal groups. The most important component of learning is being able to listen carefully. We do not have libraries or buildings where we store reference material containing the knowledge that passed on to us from generation to generation. The elders say that to write something on paper is an excuse to forget important knowledge. Unfortunately I learned some of the non-aboriginal ways so I need a bit of paper in front of me. I have two ears and a mouth that were designed in a specific way to facilitate listening and the passing on of knowledge. I am no expert. My role is to try and interpret traditional knowledge so others may understand what was taught to me. The caribou deserves respect; this was taught to me by John Petagumskum. I try to pass this knowledge along in an honorable way, for this is very important to what we are doing here today. One could not participate in a hunt prior to understanding the important aspects of hunting the caribou. Hunting of caribou required knowledge at a very high level. Only when you participated in a hunt did you graduate to a secondary level. When everything of the caribou was taken after a successful hunt, you couldn’t even tell there had been an animal there; the site was left without a trace. We learned why a caribou was to be treated in a specific way and this taught respect. We had to know which parts of the animal were for which purposes and how to cut them. Different animal parts were meant to be eaten by different members of our society (e.g. adult males, adult females, young men, “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 61 Proceedings – Day 3 etc.). Celebrations held after a hunt were alcohol-free and very special. The preparation of the meat from a caribou hunt was done by the young men. Usually it was the women, but in this case it was the special role of the young men. There were basic skills one was required to master before actually killing a caribou. This was to ensure there was no wastage. The Cree people have always understood the connection between all living things. There is Earth, Air, Fire and Water, and we were required to respect all these things. In a healthy lifestyle there is the mental state, the emotional state, the physical state and the spiritual state. All need to be nurtured with respect. Parts of the caribou were used for clothing, other for materials (e.g. snowshoes). As a young man I remember owning a new pair of snowshoes, which today would be like owning a new car. I was so proud; I felt I could walk from one side of the country to another. All this information can be used to gain an understanding about the specific area where I am from. We didn’t learn things we didn’t need to know, only what we needed to know and when. There were experts in all aspects (e.g. land, sea, mammals, fish). Caribou remains and those from other large game were disposed of in a very special way. This led to an understanding of how males and females are to respect each other also. An elder would not accept to provide expertise on something they did not master but would instead direct you to the most knowledgeable person on that matter. I hope this gives you perspective on the way Cree knowledge works. Caribou experts are equivalent to scientific experts who study a particular species. In understanding this we may learn to respect one another. Aboriginals and non-aboriginals have a responsibility to learn how to apply this knowledge with respect to the caribou. With respect to animal numbers, it is alleged that the Cree are not paying careful attention to the numbers. The Cree people are more preoccupied by the health of the species than by its numbers. In closing, let me say that those who eat healthy food grow black hair; those that eat chicken grow white. 09:45 Louis LaPierre: Thank you for that great presentation on Traditional knowledge. HEALTH BREAK 10:18 PLENARY SESSION Louis LaPierre: The last aerial survey of the LRH counted 430,000 caribou. Michael Ross (First Nations of Quebec and Labrador Sustainable Development Institute (FNQLSDI)): With respect to the presentation made by the Québec Government, the 2001 survey was not precise and they decided to take the lower number (confidence interval), but that can be dangerous because it can “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 62 Proceedings – Day 3 underestimate the decline going on right now. How did they manage to find that the herd had stabilized between 2001 and now? Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): With the 2001 data we chose to use the lower confidence interval in accordance with the precautionary approach. The herd trend that was presented is independent of the census and based on recruitment rates and survival estimates that are judged to be reliable data. Lisa Koperqualuk (Kativik Environmental Quality Commission): I have a question related to mining. Has there been a study on the impact of mining on the LRH? What is the situation in general, what plans are there for caribou surveys in the future with respect to developments coming in Nunavik? Louis LaPierre: We will talk about industrial development this afternoon. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): In the scientific literature studies show that caribou can be impacted by development, but nothing has been published precisely on the LRH. Calving grounds are subject to mining interest and exploration, so it would be interesting to know the extent of potential impacts. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Ongoing work by Caribou Ungava is looking at influence of mining and other development activities on migratory routes. Results will be available soon. Bobby Snowball (Makivik Corporation): We saw a presentation with a map of Nunavik that showed the presence of caribou. We have to be cautious if we look at aerial studies, they are not accurate, when they are done they must be done on an annual basis. They have to be done over several days in a given region. We know that the herds migrate north-south, east-west, etc. If it is done over several days it could even be the same caribou. 10:33 Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): It was a very productive way of conducting a survey from west to east and during the wintertime it is a lot easier to count and estimate the population number because we can see the dark caribou spots on a blanket of white snow as opposed to conducting a survey in the summertime when the land is brown. Going back to the lady’s question, when I was a young boy there were a few prospectors in Nunavik drilling for mineral ore. Today there are a lot of abandoned mineral exploration sites in Nunavik; barrels of oil and gasoline, old batteries containing acid. Working with Laval University we had satellite images taken and were able to see evidence of more than 600 abandoned exploration sites. This could have a negative environmental impact whether it be on caribou, sea mammals or fish. We lobby the Government to have these sites reclaimed but to no avail because there is no funding. We therefore took our own “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 63 Proceedings – Day 3 initiative to start a program. We brought up a journalist for the CBC to expose this nationally. After this was televised we received $5 million in funding from the Nunavik Government and Makivik to clean up these sites. We were able to produce a comprehensive report. We need to be able to provide adequate information to help the caribou. Roderick Pachano (Chisasibi): Regarding caribou that are not returning to Ungava, they are either both inland or on the coastal islands. The question I have for the Government and biologists is have they taken a survey of those animals to know how many there are? Also are they using or do they intend to use the native people in the caribou counts and surveys? Local people are the best ones to use in these surveys. Also do they know the reasons why the declines are taking place? How has the food been affected by development, for example? They seem to imply it is caribou that are making their own food disappear because they are too numerous. But what is in their food and how has that changed in our area? It is time they change the way they investigate these animals. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): The data we are presenting should not be seen as a challenge to aboriginal knowledge; we need to work together to share knowledge. We are using scientific planning to estimate the probability of detection. We have some collared caribou spaced away from the main aggregations. This has all allowed us to estimate a range of possible population sizes that we can all be comfortable with. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Regarding habitat quality and availability, over many years we have been able to identify locations of seasonal areas including calving grounds, but finer-scale research is more difficult to conduct. Local sampling does not provide enough information to understand range quality. We are looking at using high-resolution imagery to better understand habitat quality but we are new to this technology and still learning. However we know a lot from studies in western Canada and we conduct field work to improve our knowledge. It is a massive range to us and difficult to characterize definitively. We are working on better answering your questions. Louis LaPierre: Regarding the question concerning the integration of local traditional knowledge, I am not sure if there is an answer. To the gentleman who asked the question, do you have any suggestions? You need a very good understanding of your area to be a good hunter. However you will not be able to understand all aspects. Do you have an answer? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 64 Proceedings – Day 3 Roderick Pachano (Chisasibi): Thank you for referring to me as a gentleman; not many people do! Now I find that strange; if I asked my own question why would I have the answer to it? It is still somewhat relevant. We need more data to better understand the food quality. Then maybe we will know what has caused changes in habitat quality. Regarding data, the scientific community needs this information written down on paper, but local people will simply tell you without sharing numbers or statistics. For the future generations we need to have this information on paper so they will know what the conditions were at that point when something happened. The Government is going to have to listen to its scientists and its own people. You could spend a whole lifetime learning traditional knowledge and sharing it all in one sitting is not easy as you know, being a professor. Traditional knowledge has to be taken at face value; you cannot ask yourself why things are the way they are, but you can ask yourself what have been the impacts of humans on these natural systems. Nadia Saganash (Cree Regional Authority): The question asks if local or traditional knowledge plays a role in caribou management, and we can all tell you the answer is no. Joëlle is talking about new technology and models, etc. but what kind of effort are the scientists making to obtain traditional knowledge? You cannot talk about integrating traditional knowledge if you do not go and see the people who possess it. Especially regarding the surveys, we have only ever received the results but have never participated. Vincent Brodeur (MRNF): The comments that have been shared are quite relevant. As caribou biologists we have the responsibility of building different protocols and implementing them in the field, but we cannot be responsible for the management structure. Blaming scientists for failing to integrate traditional knowledge is perhaps not the best solution. Identifying mechanisms wherein this is possible is probably the better solution. No one is opposed to sharing the experience of field data collection. There is limited room in a helicopter and the people we bring have received specific training. To bring more people along would be very costly. A management plan should determine how traditional and scientific knowledge can be integrated. Nadia Saganash (Cree Regional Authority): I was not placing blame, I was asking a question. Biologists are there to go and collect information and we are not saying they are responsible. What we are saying is that there is extensive knowledge among local people but not once have I seen a biologist consulting them about their knowledge. Three years ago we asked about joining the biologists and the Government rejected us, saying we required special training about how to survive in the bush. How can we tell an elder who has been trapping all his life that he needs to take a course about survival in the bush? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 65 Proceedings – Day 3 Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): I will be brief. Concerning the GRH, they had a traditional location but I saw that past habitats have no more vegetation. They used to migrate there and have their calves but there are no more plants there and I have since noticed they have moved to another location. That area was a migration zone for many, many years and that is why there is no more vegetation. Our knowledge is written in the Inuk language. In the past when the blueberries are ripe we knew the caribou skin was ripe. We would take what we needed and store extra meat in the ground. We have our traditional Inuit law. Judy Rowell (Torngat Mountains National Park): With respect to incorporating TEK, I found it was more successful when Inuit were brought in at the interpretation and analysis stage. Often researchers arrive with a conclusion, and that is often the point of disagreement with the elders. You want to expand the discussion and develop research questions of mutual interest and concern. Information can be interpreted in two different ways by two different cultures, and it could be important for the scientific community to understand how their data is interpreted by aboriginal peoples. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): I have three things to say as time is short. As Inuk, all our lives we have learned not to waste any part of the animal and we are taught where to hit in order to kill the caribou right away. This is not to speak against anybody, but I have seen white people using the bow and arrow. Some Inuit are starting to use these. The Inuit are being told not to use a 22 calibre rifle to hunt beluga whales, for example. In James Bay we killed two caribous because they had many scars from an arrow. One time I saw one in Umiujaq at an outfitting camp. Sport hunters shoot from great distances and fail to kill the animal. Outfitters allow the hunters to use the bow and arrow to please their client. According to the survey there might be 420,000 caribou in the LRH, so the Government is saying that sport hunting should continue because it’s good for the economy whereas they should be giving permits to the Inuit. The sport hunters are a big reason for the declines in the caribou herds. I am unemployed and dependent on “ma récolte” (my harvest) for a living, and there are many others in that situation. We do not usually lobby the Government but we want to be heard too. When we are ice fishing in winter, the caribou come through and are not scared anymore. We need to be careful of this situation. Caribou are not passing through the tundra anymore but instead in the James Bay bush country. People need to travel far to hunt out of our communities. There is more snow and winter rain than before. This is my knowledge. In my region the snow becomes very hard in winter, this needs to be researched. I am encouraging you to observe the rivers and the lake that is flowing inland “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 66 Proceedings – Day 3 where the pregnant caribou pass and drown when the ice is not solid. We saw 200 caribou killed in that situation so I encourage scientists to be more critical and careful in blaming hunters for the caribou declines. George Peters (Nunavik Landholding Corporations Association): I am not entirely in agreement with the comments and questions here. We need a collaborative approach in conducting an aerial survey between Government and aboriginal people. We need to provide accurate information. Twenty-five to 27,000 caribou is not an accurate estimation. Lisa Koperqualuk (Kativik Environmental Quality Commission): Listening to both sides I see a major gap in the way the knowledge is acquired. The biologists’ point of view is much based on quantitative research and therefore lacks the human aspect. As an anthropologist I can see the acquisition of information about migration, birth rates, etc. is done so differently. To acquire knowledge about these things they need to go and see aboriginal people themselves. They try to involve aboriginals when they have the time and finances, but they are not seeking out knowledge from the people themselves. They should be working on more qualitative research if they can. There is too much of a divide between the biological and traditional knowledge perspectives. Sara McCarthy (GNL): I am a wildlife biologist and I have encountered challenges incorporating traditional knowledge but I have two positive experiences to share. People working as conservation officers in Nunatsiavut and aboriginal guardians working together have done a good job of collecting classification information on population structure. We would like to expand on this in future. The second example is a health monitoring program we began this year. We went out to the field to sample the harvests and learned a great deal about these communities and shared what I was doing with them. If you have information to share, please come forward and we can do more of that in future. 11:21 Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): Presentation of Theme 2: Harvest Monitoring • Do you consider that monitoring of subsistence harvest is necessary for the sound management of the Leaf River Herd? • If so, what would be the best approach to efficiently monitor the subsistence harvest of the Leaf River Herd? Total allowable harvest level and harvest threshold • What should be done to favor the long-term food security of native communities using the Leaf River herd? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 67 Proceedings – Day 3 • • • Under a precautionary approach, should sport hunting on the Leaf River herd be limited and closed below a threshold (determined from biological indicators, population trend and other sources of information (including traditional knowledge))? Do you consider the restrictive modalities adopted to regulate sport hunting of the Leaf River herd adequate? Under a precautionary approach, should subsistence harvest be limited and closed on the Leaf River herd below a threshold (determined from biological indicators, population trend and other sources of information (including traditional knowledge))? Allocation of harvest • If a total allowable harvest level limiting subsistence harvest is implemented, who should be involved in determining allocation of harvest of the Leaf River herd among communities? Harvest practices • Do you consider that adopting guidelines for hunting practices is necessary to the management of the Leaf River Herd? • Is the current enforcement capacity adequate to apply the guidelines for hunting practices? Serge Couturier (Biologist): We conducted two censuses in 2011, one on snowcovered ground, so there was very good data collected there. However in the past we have not collected as good quality data. A model is only as good as the data used, so the LRH population model will be improved in future years. For the harvest rate, we must keep in mind that it is based on the model, so we need to be cautious and use the best available data. Louis LaPierre: How would you best monitor the subsistence harvest? How would you get that data? Nadia Saganash (Cree Regional Authority): I would have to refer to the Cree Trappers Association, which has a voluntary system whereby people can register their harvest in every community. Of course not everybody is registering their harvest, so we consider this data to represent a minimum. There is work to be done in order to encourage people to register their harvest, and this is important for the monitoring of the populations. Louis LaPierre: What should be done to favour the long-term food security of these communities? “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 68 Proceedings – Day 3 Derrick Pottle (Nunatsiavut Government): As Inuit people we have adapted our way of harvest. If we have to travel into Nunavik territory, I know that we share our borders. This may be an option that is only left to us; if our local caribou are all gone and we cannot access them anymore, traveling further to access caribou in other ranges is not out of the question. This is something we may need to look at doing in the future if we want to continue to harvest and consume and practice our traditional activities that have been passed down to us. With a snowmobile we can only haul one to two animals at a time, maximum four with a sled. Roderick Pachano (Chisasibi Cree): It is very hard to answer the question about registering the number of animals taken. We don’t know what the needs of the other communities are. To a certain point the caribou determine the kill depending on their travels. Sharing is a traditional value that aboriginal people practice. However, we are slowly learning bad harvesting practices from non-aboriginals and that is a shame. The numbers taken are not an indicator of the impact that non-native hunters and outfitters are having on the caribou. In Zone 22A there is a draw where Quebec residents are not required to go through an outfitter. There are insufficient conservation officers in this area where everyone wants to be. Caribou are smart and pass through the zone before the season opens, but non-native hunters still go to these places. They do not give the caribou a chance to rest, to feed. This is not normal from the aboriginal perspective. The biggest impact comes from non-native sports hunters. Harvesting is unregulated in Zone 22A. However on numerous occasions these same people would have died without us. At times they have come into our camp because they were lost or because the batteries in their GPS transmitters had died. We are showing pictures of a carcass clean-up after the sport hunt is over. How many people count these caribou in the surveys? There are hundreds left unattended out in the bush. It is the hunter’s responsibility to ensure an animal is put down before pursuing another animal because that is their responsibility. Outfitters that come provide little supervision, and there are only ever two, maximum four conservation officers at a time that travel together and cannot cover the entire area. Conservation officers tell us the Government told them they could go anywhere, and I tell them we have never seen any Government people in our traditional territory so how can they tell us what to do? Hunting is not a sport, hockey is a sport. Hunting is our way of life, it is who we are. To answer the question we had yesterday, it is easy: the number of animals killed in zone 22A? There was something like 400 licences at two caribou per licence. Are the dead caribou left on the land by the non-aboriginal hunters counted in their harvest? Do they recover the costs of the hunting by selling permits? We need to start by ending the resident hunt and return to the way things were in the past. The better management of the sports hunt is the “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 69 Proceedings – Day 3 minimum requirement. I even have a bullet that went through my cabin wall and I found lodged in another, a type of bullet that no Cree people use. This is why the Cree people need to come back to the village when the sport hunting season is open. Willie Etok (Makivik Corporation): Our ancestors worked together and by Inuit tradition we shared food with each other when others were hungry. If we have to end the hunt I’m sure people will lose the tradition. We are taught to assist people who are hungry and never leave another human being when in need. If you have enough food to share, please do. Early Europeans struggled hard here and the Inuit helped them to survive. It is not the tradition of the Inuit to leave other people in a critical situation. Todd Broomfield (Nunatsiavut Government): Returning to the first theme, gathering information from the aboriginal hunters does not just mean numbers. Satellite telemetry allows biologists to do this. The health of the animal itself is a strong indication of where the population is going. In the past we never worried about health when harvesting from the GRH. Now the animals have no fat, though there stomachs are still full. You could probably assume by this that the animals are not healthy. Local people who know this can provide valuable information to the scientists. Healthy caribou can take hunting pressures and repopulate themselves. It has been quite a few years since I have seen a healthy GR caribou. We should not be so concerned about the numbers; I don’t think those 25,000 animals are healthy. Jean-Charles Piétacho (Council of Ekuanitshit Innu): I cannot understand how we can talk about investing billions in northern development without ever coming to consult with us. I do not understand why there is no funding for research on an animal that is part of our lives, I do not understand how funding cannot be found for caribou. Researchers come into our communities, they meet with us and they leave without ever sharing the findings of their studies with us. The question of the caribou harvest is up to our communities. Yes there is waste at our level, but never on the scale of the whites. When 10,000 caribou drowned in two or three days, the communities could have made use of these animals. We are often judged, but those people forget that they have a much greater impact on the resource. I am one of the Chiefs who have been sitting at the negotiating table for some thirty years with the Government, and I withdrew from the table because we continue to demand that our title and our rights be recognized, and they do not want to recognize us. We assert, we request, we demand, and they should recognize our rights. The title of a people cannot be extinguished. We respect each other, but no one respects us. They have forgotten the people who were already here when the whites arrived. We have been trying for thirty years to have our rights recognized, to “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 70 Proceedings – Day 3 have our own governance, but no one is listening to us. They talk to us about management, about consultation, but they forget our recommendations, our words. We are buried. Innu are moving out of the territory because there are moose hunters who take too many. I have been chief since 1991. The only one who almost convinced us was René Lévesque, because he was a man who had understanding of what we were saying. I simply wish to reiterate our history. More and more restrictions are being imposed on us and this is not appreciated. Aquuja Qisiiq (Nunaturlik Landholding Corporation): Thank you to Isaac Masty for his talk, it was really appreciated. We have heard about the declining populations, the impacts, the diseases, the wolves, the river incidents, the drowning in the lakes. From what I have observed, the bigger males should be in the same proportion as in the past, but since about twenty years when the sports hunt began, the alpha males who are usually the producers of the calves have declined in number. There are many females but we do not see many large males any more. Starting in June the caribou descend closer to the shore. Usually there are a lot of females and young males, but few large adult males. If you are going to speak to us of allowable harvest and you continue to allow the sports harvest, this will mean nothing to me. Thank you. Thomas Sealhunter (Chisasibi Cree): Every year we get caribou coming down to the James Bay. We have noticed they are feeding a lot on gravel because they go to the roadsides for salt. I would like to see more research about the effects of such food habits on caribou health. Marc Plourde (Québec Outfitters Federation): In 2010 we had very constructive discussions. I repeat that it is important to work together, but here we are, three months behind and we still cannot manage to work together. I hope that the meeting of this year will not be a failed meeting. Waste is something that has been proven for a long time. It is deplorable, the discharge of firearms on roadsides, but there are solutions. I believe recreational hunting has its place; it generates revenues and can contribute to enhancing knowledge. But we have never worked on educating recreational hunters. I understand that the priority is subsistence, we have never contested it and we never will. We are also concerned about Plan Nord. There are other factors besides hunting that affect the health of populations (e.g. parasites). We must change our practices and make sure that better use is made of the animals. Recreational hunters can learn. We must change our practices and work together, I am ready to promote new ways of doing things and greater respect for the animals, and better use of the animals. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 71 Proceedings – Day 3 Louis LaPierre: Many people are ready to work together and share their ideas and knowledge. We should leave today with some possible solutions. We will return to this this afternoon. Marianne Aubin (Association of James Bay Outfitters): During the winter hunting season, we do not only target big males because they drop their antlers before the winter hunt. In addition, non-Native hunters also want the meat, they are also entitled not to get their meat at the grocery store. Outfitters have made numerous efforts to improve hunting practices, especially with regard to safety. I want my children and my grandchildren to appreciate caribou, and not necessarily to hunt it. I don’t know where the term recreational hunting comes from. As an outfitter, we have no interest in the extinction of the resource. I do not see the usefulness of preventing recreational hunting. We have made tremendous efforts, the number of permits has decreased, it is hard for outfitters. Many outfitters are on the brink of bankruptcy. It is not just recreational hunters who are wasteful, other people are as well. Abuses exist among Aboriginal people as well, and I don’t think that the hunters who come to us are responsible for the extent of waste we saw in the presentation (referring to hunters in the free zone). I address this question to the Aboriginals: what are your methods for preventing young people from wasting [the resource]? Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): I go out hunting in the cold winter months to collect meat. The past two speakers seem to mean the Inuit are not practicing good hunting etiquette. We saw pictures of carcasses having to be cleaned up by the Cree Nation; that is extreme and unfair to the caribou. We have heard of many incidences of caribou hunters that do not take the whole animal, they leave a lot of meat behind. Concerning the road salt, caribou are consuming this product and is it not contributing to the declines in their health? We have heard it has no negative impact but I am not sure. In the near future we will have to see some reports showing such an analysis. Caribou are not as sensitive as they were in the past. They do not run away as in the past when they sense humans or see a snowmobile. Their hooves are very sensitive as well and they do not want to be exposed to pollution. I wish I could eat some caribou meat this lunch hour. Nadia Saganash (Cree Regional Authority): I want to address Mme Aubin’s question. I am sure you are aware that these issues have been going on for years now, almost twenty. The Cree have always had a concern with the sports hunt, especially Zone 22A. I am surprised that an outfitter representing the sports hunt should come out and ask us what we are doing when there have been so many complaints about the wastage that we have shown you in the pictures. Most of those responsible for the wastage we presented were from Ontario, “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 72 Proceedings – Day 3 these people were definitely not Cree people. The Crees recognize there is a need to better transmit traditional values, but I do not think it is appropriate for you to ask us what we are doing when you have only been taking action for the past two years. Louis LaPierre: I want to keep these discussions general. There is obviously a dialogue that needs to be had, but we need to work together. Bobby Snowball (Makivik Corporation): Concerning the LRH, when we were children we were taught that caribou would not always be plentiful and may decline and maybe even disappear one day. Things are not as in the past; we have better transportation. The youth in our communities are taught how not to waste the animals. Most men do not even own a rifle and many do not hunt. Many men do not practice traditional ways and many are incarcerated in prison. There are few community hunters yet many seek food from the community freezer. I was general manager of an outfitting camp in the past. I am very ashamed to be from this Province to see the images of waste as this puts us in an unfavourable and vulnerable position with the Government. In the past when a sports hunter did not practice ethical hunting they were fined or had their licence revoked. We are in the Province of Quebec and under their jurisdiction; however we are not in agreement with them handing out so many permits. These images we have seen should not be exposed on the worldwide web. I am a member of the International Elder Association and have traveled all over the world; we discuss different issues pertaining to cultural practices. Namely, we need to practice fair hunting etiquette with the LRH. Marianne Aubin (Association of James Bay Outfitters): I apologize if I appeared to be blaming Aboriginals because that was not my intent. I am asking for real advice, we want less wastage. I am very proud of what outfitters have done in recent years. Caribou are also important to us. Besides, there are no outfitters in zone 22A. We do not want there to be waste and we have worked with our hunters to improve the circumstances. We are making progress and improving things, because caribou is also important to us. Nadia Saganash (Cree Regional Authority): I completely understand and we must explore the possibility of better educating people. We have had many discussions about allocating two caribou per permit. This is sending the wrong message: that there are plentiful caribou. Perhaps rectifying this by only allowing one would send the message to hunters that they need to be more careful. 12:30 Louis LaPierre: Lunch Break. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 73 Proceedings – Day 3 14:00 Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): Introduction of Adamie Delisle Alaku, from Saluit, Executive Assistant of Resource Development, Makivik Corporation. Presentation of summary on aboriginal perspectives by Adamie Delisle Alaku. I must humbly say I think I am the least knowledgeable man at my table, but I can contribute certain aspects to our experience. We had an interesting meeting yesterday among native parties and will contribute a summary (recital of following text): Summary of Meeting of the Aboriginal Participants to the 2nd Caribou Workshop During the evening of September 12, 2012, the aboriginal participants to the 2nd Caribou Workshop met to discuss their concerns and views on the status of the three caribou herds of Northern Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador; the Torngat, George River, and Leaf River herds. The aboriginal peoples have hunted caribou since time immemorial. All of the aboriginal participants stressed that the subsistence harvest of caribou is an issue of food security, and that any changes to the subsistence harvest have direct implications on the health and cultural preservation of the aboriginal populations. Equally, all of the participants recognized the critical situation and the need for urgent actions. All aboriginal participants recognized the need to hold consultations in their respective communities to inform them of the status of the three caribou herds, and to receive feedback upon the best course of action to address the situations of the three herds. The aboriginal participants reached consensus on their desire to continue discussions regarding the caribou situation. All of the parties are committed to further meetings to discuss possible actions that would address the evolving situations with the Torngat, George River, and Leaf River herds. To this effect, the aboriginal rights holders who harvest from these three herds would like to request financial support from the Governments of Québec and Newfoundland & Labrador for the establishment of an aboriginal Round Table. This Round Table would act as the forum of exchange and support, in view of finding solutions, actions, and recommendations built upon consensus and respect. In view of the urgency of the situation, the Round Table would act to provide recommendations to management authorities until the establishment of co-management boards is formalized. All aboriginal participants support the creation of an effective co-management board or boards to address the situations of the three caribou herds. However, any co-management process and the decisions that would flow from it must be given due “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 74 Proceedings – Day 3 respect and recognition by the bodies responsible for the management of the herds and reflect an equitable sharing of authority. Furthermore, any modifications of management measures would be conditional upon the establishment of a comanagement board. All of the concerned aboriginal parties agreed that there should be no reduction of the subsistence harvest of the Torngat caribou herd until such time as there is more information on the status of the herd. It was also agreed that there should be a formal elimination of the non-aboriginal (sport/resident) hunt in Labrador. The participants to the evening session were: The Inuit of Nunavik The Cree of Eeyou Istchee The Naskapi Nation of Kawawachikamach The Innu of Ekuanitshit, Uashat mak Mani-Utenam and Nutashkuan The Inuit of Nunatsiavut The Innu Nation The Métis of Nunatukavut 14:05 Louis LaPierre: Since not all aboriginal parties are present with us here today we cannot debate what has been proposed at this time. Joëlle Taillon: Theme 3: What are your main concerns relative to habitat protection in the current context of the industrial development of the North? Which seasonal habitats should benefit more from protection (e.g. calving grounds (birth of calves), summer range (growth of calves), migratory corridors, or wintering range)? How to consider the seasonal needs of caribou while planning the development of the North? Louis LaPierre: An additional question; when the caribou food source is scarce, do aboriginal people need to consider alterative means of subsistence? Aquuja Qisiiq (Nunaturlik Landholding Corporation): What you just mentioned I want to add to. Near Kangiqsualiujjuaq there are two mining operations and since they began I have seen the LR caribou spread out and move away. We are very concerned that in the future they may disappear because of the mining industry. Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): In 1964 and 1965 I remember going inland by dog team to hunt for caribous for several weeks. The LR herd at that time never came near Salluit but much farther inland. I was born in 1944 and I followed my father’s way of life. In his day they would hunt for subsistence. In Kuujjuarapik and Salluit we are now seeing caribou. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 75 Proceedings – Day 3 We used to travel 300 miles through dangerous areas. I learned from Johnny Peters that Ungava people would go inland as well. I myself use a snowmobile to hunt caribou up to 100 miles away in the wintertime. I rarely eat boiled or fried caribou meat. I am a raw meat eater. There are many people today and numerous means of travel. Long ago Minto Lake was a hunting ground for the caribous. The lakes now can have ice until July and the caribou now can travel through in large numbers and I have seen many dead near Nastapoka River and Minto Lake. There are other examples of mass deaths that we have not discussed. In response to the lady’s question, I estimate that Inuit are harvesting 25% of caribou, but we are not paying attention to the natural cost of death. The flooding caused by the hydroelectric dams created a large lake that submerged a cemetery and caused much grief for communities. I have heard there are caribou now migrating through this area. I would like to know if the researchers are interested in investigating this area. I have made mistakes but I want to make a positive contribution and the Government should not be the only decision maker. This is my first meeting like this. I would like to see another meeting going forward; this is only the first step. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): I just want to clarify this. I know there are many experts in here. Ever since a boy is growing up we are taught to properly take care of an animal, not to play with it, not to let it suffer but to treat it very well and this is an important teaching. I want to ask about the migratory path of the LRH. This area should not be contaminated by garbage or mining leftovers. This has been our statement by aboriginal people since the beginning. If the animal is sick, what will replace it? There is much to discuss. We saw a picture this morning of Zone 22A which provided a very good example of why we should not do that. I am sure there are as many carcasses that have been left behind in the bush where they are not visible. We do not want this practice to take place. If the area smells rotten the animal will not stick around. They usually look for the best area to live upon. I want non-aboriginal people who also harvest to stop this kind of activity; it is unacceptable. This is a very old teaching of ours. Kakkiniq Naluiyuk (HFTCC, Salluit): 10,000 caribou drowned back in the 1980’s and this could happen again so I think it is a good idea to put fences around these dangerous areas but the Quebec Government does not want to fund this. If we want to keep the population stable we need to do something about it. Joëlle Taillon (Caribou Ungava/Université Laval): With regard to migratory routes and icing on the lakes, we have a lot of information about this for the LR herd. We also have a data sharing agreement with Hydro Quebec to learn more about ice and melting conditions in the spring to see how it could affect caribou “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 76 Proceedings – Day 3 migration. There are other studies that we have looked at as well to examine this problem. It is true there are natural causes of mortality that we need to investigate and we will present, for example, the results of our study on disease with the communities. We have also begun studying predators. However, as a biologist I also need information on the harvest because it helps me understand population changes over time. Roderick Pachano (Chisasibi Cree): The caribou were meant to roam where the caribou want to go, not where man would have them go. They should therefore be allowed to roam where they want to go. We know there are groups that use planes to divert or hamper caribou migration and this must be stopped. The Government has asked the Cree and Inuit to identify candidate areas for protection. The Cree did that and nothing to speak of was accepted by the Government. They based their decision on information they got from Hydro Quebec and others but not from the Cree. It is important to protect not just the calving areas but the wintering range as well. We must not permit disruption of the caribou. In our hunting territory there used to be a lot of caribou. We had one Cree outfitter and the hunters used to have a 100% success rate. When the caribou started declining in other areas all the outfitters knew there were still some here and came over to hunt in our area, which led the caribou to disappear. The Government allocates permits to hunt wherever people want, but this is political. A certain Minister goes hunting with an outfitter, but won’t come to see how things are done in the Cree territory. The calving areas, the wintering ranges, the migratory pathways are also important but they can change over time. We must understand the natural conditions and disallow actions designed to alter those conditions. The quality of the food determines the quality of the animals. If they don’t come back there is a reason for this. Willie Etok (Makivik Corporation): I think we will need to take into consideration other species, for example fish. In the fall we are seeing a lot of small aircraft flying to our community to go fishing without any permits. We are talking about the caribou population but maybe in the future we will be sharing concerns about other species. I have a good communication with the Nunatsiavut region and any air traffic into our area needs to be controlled. I don’t want to stop tourism but these aircraft disturb wildlife. We need to know where these aircraft come from but we are unable to question them. They claim they are fishing but perhaps they are poaching and we need to be cautious with this in the future. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): Thank you. Having been involved in wildlife management issues and discussions we have met many times with other native groups through the HFTCC. We have identified many cases on the land “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 77 Proceedings – Day 3 where the survival of caribou is in peril. When we placed fencing at the rapids of the river at Limestone Falls, we saw numerous caribou that would have perished if we had not built those fences. How can the natural environment contribute to the decline of those herds? We have raised this issue with game wardens. The population decreases in the winter and increases in the summer. Southerners come into Nunavik like a herd, growing in the summer and waning in the winter. Louis LaPierre: Theme 4) How can exchange and communication among users be improved for the management of Leaf River herd? Robbie Tookalook (Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board): Concerning this morning’s question, each and every one of us walks on land like the caribou. I believe that road contaminants are affecting the caribou’s well-being. In the past the caribou meat was very good to eat, of high quality. But when the caribou migrated to the ocean, to the bay, they were drinking salt water and I think this also contributes to a lower quality of meat. It would be a good idea to conduct an analysis of this. We also fear that what the caribou eats might contaminate us human beings. We cannot stop the application of road salt on highways, but I am also referring to natural sea salt caribou ingest when they are migrating along the bay. They also consume roots of plants. One particular plant contributes to the better quality of the meat. Thank you, I hope I was concise. Louis LaPierre: In your list of collaborative solutions, we have much to discuss for possible ways ahead in the future. In some areas we have a lot more time, in other areas we do not. I suggest we project Aaron Dale’s chart and consider what it can contribute to this discussion. Aaron Dale (Torngat Wildlife, Plants & Fisheries Secretariat): We need to think longterm in terms of what should happen. This was not intended to be a discussion aid for GR caribou, it can be modified and changed. - Displays forest fire risk indices applied to caribou harvest - Displays map from “The Return of Caribou to Ungava”: Relative abundance of GR caribou over time in Quebec/Labrador. - Displays more complicated version of forest fire index 14:56 Louis LaPierre: We have heard the aboriginal groups speak of moving forward, and in your experience Joe Tetlichi, how did you move forward? Joe Tetlichi (Porcupine Caribou Management Board): That is a pretty loaded question. Historically, aboriginal people were definitely managers, to which I think all people here can agree. Historically our people really respected the “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 78 Proceedings – Day 3 caribou because they needed it to survive, and that is why our spirituality is built around respect for nature. We didn’t have guns before and had to develop skills. In 1968 I had the opportunity to go out with our people and live a traditional lifestyle. I have seen women give their sons three bullets and tell them they had to come back with a caribou and this was a way to educate the young people. People returned from the kill site by removing everything and covering the site with snow. From living 20 years on the land, I have seen this. We all know what to do, but we have to find that within ourselves. In the past the Board was focused exclusively on protecting the Porcupine herd calving grounds in Alaska from U.S. oil and gas development. No alternate calving ground exists. We had to approach that situation in a productive way. Today there is no development on those calving grounds but it may still be under threat and we have worked hard to accomplish what we have done. Our situation was much less complicated than what you have now because we only had two territories and seven communities, a maximum two hours flying distance from West to East. The other area of importance was education. I have always had the viewpoint that if people want to work with caribou, they had better go into the communities and learn the history of the aboriginal people. You have to eat and sleep and dance with them and listen to their stories. When our elders talk, they are not going to give answers; they are going to tell stories, and it’s your job to pick out the messages from that story. This makes you listen, and try to catch the intended message. We place importance on our elders because they have the traditional knowledge. We have discussed incorporating scientific and traditional knowledge, and I will say that’s important. As Chair of the Porcupine Caribou Co-Management Board I need to know where we are, what our goals are, and what the challenges in between are. We called our harvest management plan “setting a trail for our future generations” because it is not for me or for Board members but for the children. I try not to speak of my right to be on the land, but I took twenty years of my life working on the Board because I believe in it. I think we all need to be honest with ourselves and trust each other. This can start when researchers make contact and collaborate with the communities. This can be an eye-opening experience for these people, and vice-versa. Our people had a hard time accepting conventional satellite collars, but when the scientists went in and justified the need, they agreed to go ahead and began walking together. The trust was the big thing we had to overcome. Comanagement was not the answer, but it was a trust. We are a recommendation body; Government has the power to instate laws on safety and conservation, but they have their own constraints and that is something we need to be aware of. They wanted interim measures based on a computer model and we said no, that is not how you make management decisions. We took court action and it stalled. Two years later we counted 160,000 caribou. People knew there were lots of caribou out there and there was no need for “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 79 Proceedings – Day 3 interim measures. There is still a lot of distrust, but we still come back to the table and talk about it and get back to walking together. As a guest I am not going to make any suggestions or recommendations; I am here to listen and to give examples of the sort of challenges we had. I don’t want to paint a picture that everything is working with our Board for it is not. We still have people going out and disrespecting what our elders taught us. But at least we do not put it under the rug; we are accountable to our people and we are quite direct with them to rectify such problems. Many cumulative footprints (e.g. oil and gas exploration, mining, roads, etc.) result in one large footprint and there can result in little area of high integrity for caribou. It is challenging and we must do what we can. Louis LaPierre: We did not get to the moon without working together and rising to the challenge. Resolving this issue is a real challenge but we can go it. Are there any additional comments? Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): I always tend to mention what I have learned and seen. Animals can have all kind of incidents, not just caribou. When there are such incidents, usually nobody wants to be responsible to preserve. There were 2,000-3,000 LR caribou that died and nobody but the Inuit were trying to clean that area. Also climate change is a very big factor. When the caribou cross waterways when it is very hot they have very little energy so they drift and die. Also, GR caribou passing Kuujjaq on their way to Labrador in April. At the Whale River there is a very big island, the other side of which was not frozen. We used helicopters to try and move them away from the dangerous area. How can we have more resources available to us to help prevent accidents in future? All aboriginal people need to work together to ensure food security but we all live so far away from each other. I am thankful to be here right now. 15:20 HEALTH BREAK 15:48 Louis LaPierre: I have four points to make. Having listened to a lot of the discussions over the past few days I have learned a lot. 1) Pursue efforts to acquire and integrate knowledge. We must continue to acquire knowledge and also integrate scientific and Aboriginal knowledge and share them in a common forum. 2) Concerns about caribou habitat 3) Improve monitoring of harvests 4) Establishment of an aboriginal round table “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 80 Proceedings – Day 3 Thanks to everyone; this was not an easy process but it was an enriching one. I particularly appreciated the comments from the elders and the people of the land. You must continue to convey your values. You have been very respectful; I thank you for this and I wish you good luck. 15:55 Denis Vandal (MRNF): I will make the closing address in English. I have been working with caribou for 35 years as a biologist and manager. I have been the Chair of the HFTCC for some time and I have done a lot of observing and listening. I learned that respect and trust are the most important. We must assume our responsibilities. I will cite some of your comments. Thank you to Isaac Masty for his presentation this morning. It is imperative that we sit down and have a meaningful discussion (George Peters). However these words need to be transformed into actions. There were many constructive and respectful exchanges that opened the doors for further discussions. We brought people in from divergent backgrounds to draw inspiration from each (thank you Don, Darryl and Joe). We must work in all transparency in the sharing of information. We are two minutes before midnight where it comes to the GR herd. As we have seen, there is certainly a gap between western science and traditional knowledge backgrounds and we need to take the necessary steps to bridge the gap between these two sides. I will close by addressing what is going to come next. I hope I will not be here in two years listening to Stas making a summary of this meeting that sounds identical to the one in 2010. We all have a responsibility to follow up on this. Thank you very much in particular to Louis for acting as facilitator. Thank you to all the members of the organizing committee for their involvement. Thank you to all attendees for your presence. I know a certain number of you and I have met several new people. In my mind these were three excellent days. Thank you to the aboriginal language translators, Miss Maggie Putalik and Sarah Aloopa, and to the French and English translators, Nicole and Mireille. Thank you also to April O’Donouughue for organizing the logistics. We have a challenge to transform our intention into action. Good luck and thank you. We will end with a closing prayer by Johnny Peters. Johnny Peters (Makivik Corporation): From the Inuit organization this meeting was very useful. Through the JBNQA the HFTCC was created. I have been involved with this committee for many years, and this is the first time I have heard Denis say such pleasant things about me whereas usually we are in conflict. This bodes well and shows how far we have come. Stas Olpinski (Makivik Corporation): We do hope that our concerns will be listened to and that the Governments will move forward and commit to working together on mutually beneficial co-management strategy. I want to recognize the presence here for three days of Natalie Camden, a senior politician. “Declining Caribou: Shared Concerns, Shared Solutions” Workshop Montreal, 11-13 September, 2012 81 Proceedings – Day 3 16:15 Closing Prayer by Louis Lalo (Council of Ekuanitshit Innu). Mr. Lalou thanks everyone and would like to continue discussion of the subject in future. 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