Summary of the MyCERN project meeting held on14.12.2016
Summary of the MyCERN project meeting
Held on 14.12.2016
Present: Manuel Alvarez, Thomas Baron, Doris Chromek-Burckhart, Bruno Lange Ramos,
Pedro Martel, Gabriele Thiede, Olaf Van Der Vossen, Marion Renard, Sotirios Boutas
Excused: Anna Cook, Christoph Balle, Roxana Banica, Gaelle Duperrier, Yael Grange, Kate
Kahle, Emmanuel Ormancey, Petra Pamblanco, Kathy Pommes
Minutes: Marion Renard and Doris Chromek-Burckhart
Indico reference: https://indico.cern.ch/event/577869/
Action List – New Items
- ALL – to provide an estimate of the necessary resources until 10.1.2017
- Manuel to get a pricing estimate from Codigo
- Marion and Doris to provide the list of procedures to Manuel
Action List – Follow – up
- Manuel to send the AIS document on the evaluation of the expert and rule based systems
– done
- Doris to send a draft structure of the conceptual design – done
- Sotirios to contact Fabienne Landua on the design and branding of MyCERN - done
- Prepare a test implementation of the termination procedure as an example on Fence
(Manuel, Bruno L, Thomas, and others)
Agenda
Further news on the Survey of rule based (expert) systems and proposal
Estimated resources for the implementation of MyCERN in 2017
Feed-back to the first draft outline of the report of the feasibility study and conceptual design to be
presented to the Extended Directorate
Present conclusion for the mock-up
General
The working group approved the minutes from the previous meeting.
1. Further news on the Survey of rule based (expert) systems and proposal
Manuel presented his proposal for the MyCERN expert system. He focused first on the diagram
which shows the functionality of the MyCERN system.
Diagram
Olaf suggested renaming the “Services” to “Connectors” and Doris suggested to add Foundation in
the Systems as it is a central one. Enhance the visibility of the rule engine in the expert system as this
is the only mandatory part (the others are optional but would be nice to have).
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The working group agreed that, after these 2 changes, the diagram was appropriate to be presented
to the Extended Directorate.
The diagram will need some refining in the second part of the project:
- Show how MyCERN will work if an app is developed
- Define if the expert system should be included with the external systems
Data from services/API and communication
Bruno suggested that the working group defines a preferred way for MyCERN to discuss with
external services (API + authorization delegation) so that new services could implement it from the
beginning if they plan to have a view on myCERN.
For the existing systems, the group needs to verify if it provides already an API or if it will need to be
implemented. The cost of this implementation should be defined and will have an impact on the
estimation of the resources needed.
Pedro suggested that each service should provide a list of their data that they want to appear in
MyCERN. It was agreed that this should be done before finalising the report to the Extended
Directorate.
To be specified if it requires only r ead access or read/write access
Pedro enquired if MyCERN should have a “read only” access to the data or a “read and write access”.
Doris suggested that the first version of MyCERN should give a “read only access” for most
connectors but it will depend on what the connector allows. If read access is provided now then a
possible write access should be kept open for the future version. An example for write access is the
photo which can be provided by the client through MyCERN. In the first version, the user would be
directed to a procedure to follow.
Search engine and recommender system
Manuel tested the Cogito search engine and presented the results. He explained that Doris and
Thomas should be part of the discussion with Cogito in order to give precise indication on what
would be needed from them.
The working group agreed that MyCERN could be launched without the semantic search engine and
the recommender system as these are not mandatory for the system to work. Manuel explained that
there is expertise in his group with the Drools tool but not with semantic search and with the
recommender system and thus they would need to gain some experience. Doris added that the
semantic search and the recommender system seem to be the future trend of making a system
attractive and therefore it could be implemented but in the beginning be made available for a
selected group of beta testers until it is seen to be sufficiently stable and useful.
2. Estimated resources for the implementation of MyCERN in 2017
In general, it was difficult for each member to give an estimate. Doris pointed out that it was
important that resources for the MyCERN project would agreed in the respective groups and the
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respective department head is well informed about the status of the MyCERN project and the
position of his people to the implementation of their respective parts.
Thomas explained that he has an estimate according to the mock-up and taking into account the
implementation of APIs. He suggested that the Expert system should be built and supported by AIS
and the User Interface by IT. He also pointed out that his resource evaluation needs I will obviously
not take into account developments which have already been planned and staffed by IT.
Pedro pointed out that there will be some extra work with regards to authentication as all services
do not use the same. IT uses AUTH, AIS uses SSO and Access control uses basic authentication. It was
decided that Pedro and Thomas discuss with Stefan LUEDERS, from the Security team and with IT
DB.
Sotirios explained that for IR, the infrastructure is fine and should not be an issue.
Olaf and Gabi explained that they were not able to estimate the resources needed before the
working group has a more precise list of the procedures and data needed for MyCERN.
Manuel needs more information on the output wanted for the expert system.
- List of services
- List of procedures
- List of information needed for each procedure and user
- Need for an interface between the expert system and the business expert
Marion and Doris will prepare the set of detailed procedures to send to Manuel.
The working group agreed that a full list of services and procedures has to be provided for the
meeting on 10.01.2017 and that an estimate will be given from all members on 17.01.2017.
3. Present conclusion for the mock-up
Thomas demonstrated the latest version of the mock-up which he adapted according to Bas and the
group’s feedback. He created a mega menu, added some content in the tiles and made all of them
clickable. He also made the search box more visible.
Soritios and Doris had met with Fabienne. She will send a suggestion for the branding and the colour
scheme for the mock-up.
Doris suggested that all members should look into the latest version of the mock-up to make sure
nothing is wrong or bizarre.
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