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to have a transplant. He used to tell her the scar was
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from a shark bite. In 2007 his son was born and he was
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THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, Mr Beer.
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ecstatic. Three years later his relationship broke down
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MR BEER: Good morning, sir. Could we call, please,
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with their mother and she moved to Carlisle. He would
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try and see his children as often as possible.
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Friday, 20 January 2017
Marina Schofield.
MS MARINA SCHOFIELD (sworn)
THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mrs Schofield. Would you like to
sit down or are you happier standing up?
A. I will stand up.
THE CHAIRMAN: Certainly.
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Questions from MR BEER
MR BEER: Mrs Schofield, my name is Jason Beer, I am counsel
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Anthony was a fantastic dad. He used to go to
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Carlisle to see his kids every weekend. If they ever
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wanted anything he would do his best to provide it.
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I remember once his daughter wanting a puppy, Anthony
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found the puppy she wanted straight away and was up in
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Carlisle that afternoon meeting her from school with
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a new puppy as a surprise.
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to the Inquiry. I am going to ask you in a moment to
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I am worried about the Inquiry will affect the
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read a statement that you have prepared in relation to
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children, until now they have been shielded from
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Anthony. I think there is a copy of the statement in
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publicity but I expect that the incident will now be in
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large font available. In your own time, please read the
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the newspapers and I worry as to how I can protect them
statement.
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A. My name is Marina Schofield, I am the mother of
from this --
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THE CHAIRMAN: Don't worry.
A. -- asked me why a policeman shot her dad when the police
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Anthony Paul Grainger who was shot in the chest by
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an officer from Greater Manchester Police on
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are there to protect us. It is not easy to answer
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3 March 2012. My beautiful boy was born on
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questions like that. Anthony had always worked with
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26 January 1976. I loved him from the moment I saw him.
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cars. He had known Colin Waters 20 years, they worked
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I was 17 years old at the time. My mother had died when
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from the same yard for as many years as I can remember.
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I was 12 and I was brought up by my dad along with my
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I am not sure what their working arrangement was and
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brother. My dad played a big part and helped me bring
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whether they were partners or whether they operated
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up Anthony. I had three other children, Natalie, Stuart
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and Michael. Natalie died when she was nine hours old.
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driving a recovery wagon and buying and selling car
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parts. He would recover vehicles after accidents and
did a lot of trading on the internet.
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Anthony loved being a big brother to Stuart and
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Michael. When Anthony was six years old I split up from
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his father. Anthony helped me raise his two brothers.
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When he was 15 to 16 years old he started to get
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separately, but certainly Anthony used to be busy
Anthony started to get in trouble again after the
children moved to Carlisle. He started to withdraw from
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into trouble due to being friends with a bad crowd. He
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me and John during this time. I believe it was because
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was addicted to cars, he should have been a rally car
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he didn't want to cause us any hassle with the police as
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driver. Unfortunately he began to steal cars for
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a result of his dealings with them. I last spoke to
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a joyride. When he was 16 he was sent to HMPYOI Stoke
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Anthony at Christmas time in 2011. I know he did speak
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Heath, when he came home he seemed to turn a corner
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to John a few more times before his death.
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after meeting the love of his life, Rachel.
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Unfortunately this only lasted until their relationship
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house, it was approximately 11.35 pm. They told me that
On 3 March 2012, six police officers came to my
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broke down in 2002 and my granddaughter was born and
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Anthony had been shot in Culcheth by police. My whole
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Anthony adored her. Stuart and Michael loved having
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world fell apart. All I could think about was how I am
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a niece.
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going to tell his two young children that their daddy
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was gone forever and that the police did it. My son
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In 2004 I married John. Anthony was the best man
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and his daughter was a flower girl. Anthony was the
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will never see his children grow up or walk his daughter
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most loving and caring person and was made to be a dad.
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down the aisle. I have since been diagnosed with post
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He was fantastic with children, even the neighbourhood
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traumatic stress disorder. I am currently waiting to
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kids loved him.
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see a counsellor, I look at his photograph every night
and I cannot believe that he is not here anymore.
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For a while after [redacted] was born Anthony kept
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his nose clean. He had his driving licence and his own
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car. When his daughter was one he started to have
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I have always said. I have days when I struggle to move
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problems with his kidneys and when she was five he had
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on with my life, even thoughts of ending my own life to
No mother should have to bury their own child,
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be with my son but I realise I have to fight for justice
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for my son and my grandchildren. I cannot understand
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how an unarmed man sat in a car in a quiet car park can
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be shot by a police officer. To me it is murder and he
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THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR BEER: I think this morning Mr Thomas provided his client
with a copy of the statement to read and unfortunately
the copy provided included the names in it.
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should not be working. We have had to pay Anthony's
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MR BEER: It is completely inadvertent.
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funerals ourselves even though his life was taken from
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THE CHAIRMAN: We are going to do our best to make sure it
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him by Greater Manchester Police. I had to borrow the
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doesn't go on the website and I should be grateful in
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money to cover these costs.
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that particular detail is not included.
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This has ruined my life and I feel as if my heart
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has been ripped out of me. I just want this nightmare
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Thank you very much, I am most grateful to you for
your cooperation.
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to end and Anthony to get the justice he deserves. It
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has taken five years to get to this point where the
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public Inquiry is due to start and has put an enormous
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stress on me and John and the family. We also suffered
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terribly when GMP leaked a copy of the IPCC report to
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Manchester Evening News and it was published in the
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paper before we were even aware of the contents.
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I am left with a deep distrust of the police, I am
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MR THOMAS: So be it.
MR THOMAS: Sir, there is one second statement that is the
identification statement that needs to be read.
A short.
MR BEER: I don't think it is necessary for Mrs Schofield to
read the identification statement.
THE CHAIRMAN: That can be taken as read insofar as it is
necessary.
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scared of them and even moved away from my address that
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THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms Thomas.
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I have lived in for many years because of worries about
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MR BEER: Ms Gail Hadfield-Grainger, please.
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harassment. I remain worried that they will harass me
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once the Inquiry finishes.
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MS GAIL HADFIELD-GRAINGER (sworn)
THE CHAIRMAN: Pause, take a breath.
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MR BEER: Mrs Schofield, thank you very much indeed.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mrs Schofield.
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sitting down?
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A. No, thank you.
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Can I just briefly address the lady -- I think you
Ms Hadfield-Grainger, would you be more comfortable
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are a press representative.
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A MEMBER OF THE PRESS: Yes.
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THE CHAIRMAN: The intention was there should be no
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THE CHAIRMAN: Are you sure? All right.
Questions from MR BEER
MR BEER: Ms Hadfield-Grainger, my name is Jason Beer and
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reference to the names of either of Mr Grainger's
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I am counsel to the Inquiry. I think there is
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children and there has been an inadvertent reference to
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a statement that the usher is going to hand to you.
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the name of one of them. I should be grateful if the
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That is your statement about Anthony. Could you please
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names would not be included in any report of this
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hearing.
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MR THOMAS: Sir, I was about to ask you the same thing.
A MEMBER OF THE PRESS: That is fine by me. The names are
read it to the court, thank you.
A. It is not easy to stand in front of strangers and
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describe the love that Anthony and I shared. I dreamt
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of doing that in front of our loved ones at our wedding
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in some of the statements that have gone on to the
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and I never thought that I would have to do this in
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website, are they not?
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a courtroom because of the way that Anthony was killed.
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THE CHAIRMAN: I think they have been redacted, but that
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It is difficult to find the words to explain how
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brings me to the next topic which is that when the
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much we loved each other. The best way that I can
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transcript of today's hearing is uploaded, I propose
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describe it is to read a poem that Anthony wrote for me
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that any anyone inadvertent reference to the names of
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in 2012 on Valentine's day.
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either of the children should be redacted.
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MR BEER: Yes, sir --
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"You are all of my beautiful dreams, the best I have
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THE CHAIRMAN: Does anybody have any objection to that, it
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ever had, you are my secure when I am afraid and a smile
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on my face when I am sad.
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seems to be the right course to adopt?
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MR THOMAS: Yes, sir.
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MR BEER: It is entirely inadvertent, what had happened was
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single step I take, you are the soul of this body of
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that Farleys had requested that we redact the names out.
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mine, the breath from which I take ..."
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We did.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
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"You are in every single thing I do and in every
I can't even see.
THE CHAIRMAN: Take your time.
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A. Anthony did not find it easy to write, especially about
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his feelings, so this Valentine's card will always mean
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the world to me. I have had this poem tattooed on me so
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these words will never leave me and I will be able to
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talking about boy stuff. When Anthony went out he
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take them to the grave for when we are together again.
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paused the game and he told my son that he would finish
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Anthony and I fell in love back in 2009 and then we
ring.
On the day that Anthony had been killed -- was
killed, he was playing computer games with my son and
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it later that day. So after Anthony went out, I had my
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son practice for the game because he wanted to impress
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began to live together with my two children
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in October 2011. Anthony was very much a family man and
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Anthony for when he got back. My son went to bed that
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he was great, a great help to me and my children and
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night with a game console in his hand, wondering why
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great around the house. I grew to know and love
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Anthony, not just as my life partner but as a loving
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So later I bought a dog to help my son deal with the
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father to my children.
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grief and my son decided to name it after the game they
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Anthony had not come back home to play.
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were playing, and called it Carbon. I've got a photo
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daughter Anthony would just sit beside us and stroke her
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album at home which is very important to me. It has got
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head until she fell to sleep, and then as his children
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photographs of Anthony doing all sorts of things, like
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got older we spent the days out together. There was
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when he went to see Harry Potter with my friends, having
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days at Diggerland where Anthony tried to build my
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pillow fights with the kids in the house and when he won
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daughter a princess castle out of mud and a trip to
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a prize at Blackpool for my son.
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Knowsley Safari Park because my son wanted to see
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meercats.
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things, little pieces of paper which have got his
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When I used to -- when I was breastfeeding my
I also have a special box in which I have Anthony's
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handwriting on, his clothes that were in the washing
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covered in bubbles because a shipment of Fairy liquid
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basket on the day that he died. A little bracelet that
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came apart and the kids loved it.
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he bought for me when he was out with the kids in
Cumbria and his trainers.
On one of our trips to Blackpool the seafront became
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When the children got restless, Anthony would take
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them to a soft play centre and he would run around like
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They are all the things that I have left of him,
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a big kid with them.
I grew to love Anthony, also through the love of his
own children. He was very much a part of their life.
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He got up every weekend to drive and see them, to see
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his son and daughter in Cumbria and when it used to be
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snowing up there he would send a picture of the
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mountains to me from his phone.
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In the month before Anthony died, we had been
viewing houses with enough room for six of us. We were
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also trying for a baby together and we had already
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chosen the names, they were going to be called Bobby and
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Frankie. We chose two names because there are twins on
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both sides of my family so we were kind of hoping to
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have twins and we used to joke that we would need
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a minibus.
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Anthony came home on one evening and told me that he
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He took me to see it and it was so beautiful. We were
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just standing there looking at it together, talking
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about how we had the rest of our lives together.
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Anthony could be quiet in company but when it was
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just us two he talked a lot and he had a brilliant sense
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of humour. He was always there for me and we would text
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each other throughout the day every single day. Until
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this day I still look at my phone waiting for him to
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along with my memories. No matter what Anthony will
never be forgotten.
Thank you.
MR BEER: Thank you very much.
THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms Hadfield-Grainger.
MR BEER: Sir, that is all of the evidence for today, indeed
for this week.
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR BEER: We will next convene a fortnight on Tuesday in
open session at 10.30 am.
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR BEER: We will next convene in closed session this
Tuesday coming at 10.30 am.
THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr Beer.
(10.51 am)
(The Inquiry adjourned until 10.30 am on Tuesday,
24 January 2016)
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cooperation 7:10
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