GUIDELINES italic = glossary words bold = things that need to be reviewed blue = cool stuff! () = added words to facilitate understanding *With the permission of the speaker, some pieces were adapted from oral form to written form, allowing a clearer understanding. GLOSSARY Cedar: one of the most important Native American ceremonial plants, used by many tribes as an incense and purifying herb. It is especially associated with prayer, healing, dreams, and protection against disease. Many Salish tribes consider the cedar tree a symbol of generosity and providence, and had special rituals regarding the felling of cedar trees. It is commonly used as part of sweat lodge ceremonies, and is also one of the herbs frequently included in medicine bundles and amulets. Cedar leaves and bark are used as medicine plants in many tribes as well. Gourd of ashes: a Hopi symbolic figure that represents a warning for the atomic bomb Mica: a shiny silicate mineral with a layered structure, found as minute scales in granite and other rocks, or as crystals. It is used as a thermal or electrical insulator. For the Hopi The House of Mica is represented by the United Nations Headquarters on Manhattan Island. Sipapu: a small hole or indentation in the floor of kivas used by the Ancient Pueblo Peoples and modern-day Puebloans. It symbolizes the portal through which their ancient ancestors first emerged to enter the present world. Two-hearted way of life: a state of spiritual disunity, incompatible with Nature cycles. A two-hearted person is one who thinks with his head rather than his heart. One-hearted way of life: a state of balance and harmony with the universal spirit. Kóhk'ang Wuhti: Spider Woman, the Creator’s girlfriend. Pahana: the Lost White Brother. Kivas: a room used by Puebloans for religious rituals. Among the modern Hopi and most other Pueblo peoples, kivas are square-walled and underground, and are used for spiritual ceremonies. Spell casting / spell cast: To make someone do something in an unconscious way. Self-tickling: making yourself believe you are doing something for a higher good, and actually avoiding the real void that prevents you from doing something for a higher good. Songing: living in the frequency of music. Entrainment: in this context, it refers to a specific programming for humans to keep them alienated from their true Nature. Being presence: a state of essential truth, aligning yourself with Nature laws and frequencies. A quality of being that balances intuition and intelligence, heart and mind connection. Bezerk: destructively or frenetically violent. Novate: the physical correspondent of a multidimensional event. Tuc-tuc: an auto rickshaw, a usually three-wheeled cabin cycle for private use and as a vehicle for hire. It is a motorized version of the traditional pulled rickshaw or cycle rickshaw. Auto rickshaws are an essential form of urban transport in many developing countries and a form of novelty transport in many developed countries. Absentee landlord: a person who is oblivious of the Wholeness of himself. Medulla oblongata: the continuation of the spinal cord within the skull, forming the lowest part of the brainstem and containing control centers for the heart and lungs. COOPERATION BETWEEN WORLDS Donnie’s talk about the Hopi prophecy and how to live a more present life, was accompanied by a cozy cacao ceremony, a meditation and the oldest song of the world. Here it goes… ————————————————————————————— I’m going to play old guy and lean back cause I have a sore back, even though I am not that old. There was scheduled to be a talk, cooperation between worlds, then there had been several requests to talk about Hopi prophecy and in a way it is all the same subject from a different vantage point. Am I talking loud enough? To hear across that fire is actually difficult because the fire pushes the sound waves up. So, maybe I could start with the Hopi. -Anyone here from Arizona? Have you been up there? -I have been up around Flagstaff. I am not an official spokesman for Hopi prophecy, let’s have that be really clear. On the other hand there is a lot of fake official spokesman running around and they have had a fair bit of exposure to it. My inclination when it comes up is to correct a lot of the misquotations, pieces taken out of context, pieces literally invented and/or the words “Hopi prophecy” attached to things for marketing purposes and encourage people to, true of everything, before you adopt something, actually do the homework and find out what it actually is and where did it start from and what was it, where it started from before someone messed with it. Know what you are talking about. And so… it shows up all over the place, in various misconstrued ways, as far as I am concerned. To understand what it is… Basically in 1945 when the first atom bomb was set off, all the villages at that time had an instruction in their story, it was called the gourd of ashes, that would be dropped from the sky and everything around it would burn, nothing would live there, and of course the first one tested was at Los Alamos. Within their view on the western horizon they could see the mushroom cloud or the gourd of ashes. And to compare notes at the time, take the consistent pieces of their story they all had, and distill that into a story or a message that would be taken out into the world, so that, whatever you want to call, that conferencing happened in 1946; four elders at that time had been elected to carry that out into the world. I can’t remember all of their names, the longest living one lived to the eight eighties David Minogway, the second longest living one was Dan Conunchwa, who I think passed away in the 70’s. David lived to be 114 and so he kind of hung around for a while long enough that people like me would get to meet him. I have an adopted brother via peyote who is a school teacher over at Hopi. For people who don’t know, the Hopi reservation is in northern Arizona, in their case it is actually their original homeland, whereas in most reservations are still on paper called prison camps with numbers, and most tribes live in North American prison camps, which are not their original homelands to this day, but in case of Hopi they are living on their original homeland and never left it in spite of various efforts to get rid of them. In 1946 those 4 people head out. There was an instruction to take that message out to the house of mica, which is how it appeared in their story, which turns out the United Nation building in New York has windows made of mica. Their instruction was to knock on the door 4 different times and see if it would open, which they did and it didn’t open. The story was never delivered to the United Nations building in New York.15 years later they asked for it to come and where told no “we knocked on the door 4 times and we just follow instructions so you missed the boat” For the most part, these are people who simply follow their instructions, have no ambition or desire to be anything other than who they are, is how I would say it. When you see someone trying to make hot shit out of themselves with Hopi prophecy, you know you are not talking to the right people. This story was put together in 1946, is very long, I used to know it quite well in 1990. We toured the Pacific Northwest doing it every 2 or 3 days. I am going to give you an abbreviated version, just as a taste of what that is about, and maybe somewhere along the way there might be an opportunity to hear that whole story, which I actually had in digital form but it got stolen in México. I have a backup at home but don’t have access to it. This story begins with, in their history, the destruction of the third world and an escape to the fourth world, which they claim they came through the underworld into the fourth world, which is this world, through an opening in the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Little sidebar, there is some kind of giant hole in the Grand Canyon that had been boarded up since forever and hidden from the public because the military and the science community can’t seem to figure out what it is. Everything they throw down there does not come back and no signals come back and they can’t figure out where it goes so they close it up and pretend that it doesn't exist. Could be that is the hole they are talking about. That hole has a remnant in all the ceremonial ways around the world. The pit in the center of the sweat lodges basically represents that point of emergence form the previous world. Their word for it is the sipapu. At the point of emergence, and there is a whole story related to how they got through that opening, which had to do with the mocking bird, various creatures who helped them climb to the crack of light in the underworld to emerge into this world. Since that is fuzzy in my mind we are just going to leave that alone. At the point of emergence there was a profound revelation that the two-hearted way of life, which had destroyed the third world, had successful hidden itself amongst them and made its way in the forth world in the form of a little girl that the black witches of the third world put into her so it could hide and make the journey to the fourth world. There was a bit of to do about whether or not she should be killed and tossed back into the underworld, which when they went to do that, the world that they had come from was no longer there and so it was impossible to actually get rid of her. At that point it was understood that the two-hearted way of life had made it into the fourth world, which had significance which we will talk about later. Again there is a lot of details around their arrival. Creator’s girlfriend, her name is spider women or Kóhk'ang Wuhti, appeared and instructions were given that in this new world they would have to circle all of the oceans and cover all of the land masses and then return to the point of emergence, and that would be the migration of the fourth world. And that they were to leave their signs everywhere that they went, and all of their buildings habitations, they were to leave a spirit there to watch over that place when they moved on from it. Then she gave them a map, which she carved into a rock at the place where they were standing, which is the map they have operated from since that time. And it is carved into a rock in northern Arizona in what would appear to be a garbage dump, unless you understand how they operate. Anything that you have handled that has your DNA print on it you put at the sacred shrines in order to keep the dark side from getting your DNA print, cause it is a place they cannot go. Old cars, fridges, you name it, anything you have touched. It literally looks like a garbage dump with prophecy rock sitting in the middle of it. She carved that story out for them, which was the map of the fourth world and how to get to the fifth world. Then, at that time, rolled out a batch of corn saying “this is to help you on your migration, this can learn how to grow anywhere and y’all come and get some” and all the different characters present, which in that story there is also a white brother who came through that opening as well, Pahana is his name. Everybody ran up and grabbed all these pretty looking pieces of corn until there was nothing left, except one gnarly little chewed up one. The Hopi were the last ones to go up and take some, and took the worst looking one. And Kóhk'ang Wuhti, or spider women, said “you waited until the end, how come you waited until the end to take the worst looking one?” and they responded by saying “well, its all coming from you so its all got to be good, there really isn’t a problem” and she said “well because of how you are, I’m going to call you Hopi, which means humble, the humble ones. And actually what you have there in that gnarly piece of corn is the mother of all the corn, carries all of the DNA.” They have been the custodians of the corn since that time as well. -15min.Onto the map that is carved on that rock, I personally have a unique history with that rock, a sidebar I guess… In 1974 there was a newspaper being published out of Hopi land called Pichkoacatchy, which means land and life, and I was, as far as I thought anyway, heavily involved in the back to the land movement and quite interested in meeting the people who where making that newspaper. So I went to Hotvillo, which was the address of one of the villages putting out the newspaper. When I knocked on the door, a young fellow around my age answered, who was quite keen to find out if I had some pot to smoke, which of course I did, that was the 70’s, and we ran off and hid behind a rock to smoke and his dad was the one actually publishing the newspaper and found us and threw an absolute fit and told me that if I did not get my but off of Hopi land immediately he would have the tribal police arrest me and never wanted to see me again. I jumped into my van and sped off with no clue where to go in the dark and went down a backroad. I found what I thought was a garbage dump with a nice big rock in the middle of it. I backed the van up against the rock to hide it (the van) and woke up in the morning about 18 inches away from this carved rock, which I thought was pretty interesting to be in the middle of a garbage dump. I had no idea what it was, but that’s the map that spider women carved into that rock. 15 years later I would be invited back there as a guest of the same family on a pilgrimage, and I still to this day don’t know if that old man knew that I was the same kid. His son definitely knew, we were looking at each other and basically had a sort of telepathic agreement that if the old man don’t say anything we ain’t gonna say anything. On that rock there are two roads. One road goes all the way around the rock and is called the one-hearted road of life, and the other road is called the two-hearted road and it turns into a bunch of zigzag lines and has one big zig and then it ends. The beings on those two roads of life: the one-hearted beings are these little stick men who have their sack of corn seed, their planting stick and their water bottle. They are walking along that road, and corn is growing behind them. The two-hearted beings have no neck, their head floats independently of their body, and there is nothing growing behind them. There are a whole bunch of steps along the way on that map, the migrations that would unfold, and if you investigate Hopi history, I am certainly not qualified to say, but people here (Guatemala) pretty much look like the same people, the people in Tibet pretty much look like the same people, if you took a Tibetan, a Mayan and a Hopi and took away their traditional clothes, you’d have a hard time figuring out which one is which. And there is all of these mysterious relationships, where in language the Hopi word for moon is the Tibetan word for sun, the Tibetan word for moon is the Hopi word for sun, the sound sounds the same too, the tones. They are definitely related to each other. What was understood is that the two-hearteds would eventually take over the entire fourth world, before they annihilate themselves. The point in the zigzag line where it ends is considered the annihilation of the two-hearteds. There is a series of events that would lead up to that time, which pretty much puts us in present time, the point of annihilation of the two-hearted way of life. We sort of jump forward to somewhat current time on that map. After the gourd of ashes is dropped and the two roads start to get further apart, a ladder appears between the two roads of life, roughly in the mid 60’s. Let me back up some more, the gourd of ashes, prior to the gourd of ashes the swastika is the migration symbol of the Hopi people backwards, and their instructions in the map is a backwards migration symbol. When that shows up on the eastern horizon and the rising sun comes up besides it, which is the Japanese flag, then the gourd of ashes will happen. When they saw the rise of the third Reicht and the Japanese thing, World War II, it all made sense to them that something called the gourd of ashes was going to show up. If you look at the mushroom cloud, it looks like a gourd full of ashes in their framework, which took place at Los Alamos, which is within their view. They actually saw it, it wasn’t a concept it was there. That is mostly how they operate, by not trying to imagine what it is but have worked with the map long enough to know that eventually it would show up, and when it shows up you don’t have to figure out ahead of time what it is because it will show up, and when it does show up you can go “oh there it is” and you know what time it is in the map. It’s more of a western thing to try and jump the gun and calculate the answer. They operate in a very different timeframe. The journey to the fifth world…and the fifth world is the one-hearted time, when the one-hearted people who survived the purification of the fourth world go forward and live in the one hearted time, which goes on indefinitely all around the rock. They translate this as mostly the time when the human people live according to the original instructions with Creator as their leader, in a simple and humble way, such as the one-hearted people with their bag of seed, planting stick and water bottle on the one hearted road. In the 60’s a ladder appears between the two moons. There are all kinds of stuff before this, it is hard to jump ahead. One of the signs they were watching for when the first Pahana shows up, the white man, is the circle with a cross in it. It is also an important symbol of theirs, it has to do with the seasons and the flow of life and so on. If the first Pahana they see has taken the cross out of the circle, then that means he has really gotten lost on the migration. And of course, the first Pahana to ride into those mesas in northern Arizona was a jesuit priest with a cross, no circle around it. -25minAll the initial explorers (who) went up there basically wrote them off as raging lunatics that had been out in the sun too long, because they would look at the white people coming and say “you are going to make cobwebs in the sky, build roads in the sky and that horse and wagon you have, you are going to put the horse inside the wagon and then pretty soon there is going to be 100’s of horses inside the wagon” and describing all kinds of things that would come later that the early explorers and pioneers couldn’t make any sense out of whatsoever. That eventually “you will build a ladder to the moon, and when you do that you are going to start to throw your babies in the garbage and descriptions of the space station would fall out of the sky” and incredible elaborate detail of all this stuff. When the ladder appears, beings who were born on the one-hearted path of life would begin to climb that ladder and leave the one-hearted road and head for the two-hearted way of life. And at the same time, beings who were born on the twohearted road of life would begin to climb down that ladder and look for the onehearted road of life. Which based on the timelines happens roughly in the 60’s. Then there was an instruction that when this happens, Pahana is going to show up on the road down below. So the highway down below the mesas. The traditional people live way up in the rocks, way up high in the mesas, and the highway runs down below, which they were chained together in chain gangs and forced to build in the 30’s through their own land, but that is a whole other story. Anyway, Pahana would show up on the highway down below trying to look like them, with a name something like theirs’ and when he shows up “go down and talk to him because it is the beginning of the return of the, or the completion of the migration of Pahana, or the white man. So, Hopi: hippie long hair, beads, all that stuff, and the key ingredient is, when you talk to them if they don't know where they came from and they don’t know where they are and they don’t know where they are going, that’s them.” All these guys in their 90’s would go down to talk to these hitchhiking hippies when the big exodus came out of California in the late 60’s and they would say, “So where did you come from?” and they say “I don’t know man” “Well, do you know where you are?” “I don’t know man” “Where are you going?” “I don’t know man.” “Well we have instruction to talk to you”, I bet in the back of their mind they thought “beats me why.” It was the beginning of the first bridges between the traditional Native American world and the so called spiritual revolution that was beginning in the 60’s, reluctant to use those words. Fast forward again to the mid 80’s where there’s World War II and the atom bomb, were called the second great shaking of the earth. Then there is a point where sometimes called “the mystery egg”. The way it is drawn is a circle with a line through it that it could happen one of two different ways and a carving of a being with a red crown and a red cloak. It was said that the third great shaking of the earth would take place because a single being with a red crown and a red cloak would come bringing wisdom and knowledge to North America, and that wisdom would have such an effect that alone would induce the purification and prevent the other side of “the mystery egg” or the third great shaking of the earth from happening. -30 min.That event happened roughly in the mid 80’s. The Dalai Lama (people), I forget what you call those guys, they are specifically raised for that, they don’t live very long, they put on like 200 pounds of armor, spin and then collapse into a trance, usually die in their 20’s. Then the Dalai Lama can consult the spirit of the Dharma through them. In the 80’s he was instructed to move the seed of the Dharma and the ashes of the Buddha to Oribi, which he had no idea where that is, but had some sense it was related to Native Americans and therefore choose a guy named Gomanken, a rimpoche from the Kayagu sect. The Kayagu people of Tibet are the ones who retain the indigenous religion that preceded Buddhism. It is kind of like the Indian ways of Tibet and contains the whole indigenous part that came before Buddhism and pawasimbawa and all that stuff that happened. He was sent to New York to figure out where is Oribi with the seed of the Dharma, whatever that constitutes, and the ashes of the Buddha. The way that unfolded with my brother John; basically David never ever came to visit him from New México to Arizona except on the night when Gomanken’s entourage was in New York phoning around and called my brother John Kimmy looking for David Managuya. They said they had been given John’s name as a possible connection to David, who lives in Oribi, who happened to be sitting on the couch when they called. It all got arranged to make the trip out there. Gomanken with the Kayagu people wear a red crown and a red cloak, and to do his official duties wore his proper clothes for that event, which led to the appearance of the man with the red crown and the red cloak at Hopi. Several days where spent in the kivas out of view from the rest of the world, comparing notes like old friends getting together after a few worlds. At the end of which David got slightly pissed off at them because when he asked about their prophecies they said they didn’t know, they had left them all on scrolls in Nepal. He said that is a white man thing, to put things on paper and leave them behind, “what the hell happened to you guys? That is really stupid you store your information inside your people, where it is always accessible and safe. So you really screwed up.” Apparently at this point where it is coming from me, third hand, fourth hand, to you, they also had a discussion about what is it in terms of this thing that was being brought. Does it have the potential to create the third great shaking and spare the world from perhaps the nastier form of purification that would otherwise unfold? The decision was that, I’m not making this up i’m just passing it on, there was some kind of barrier for westerners when it came to understanding Buddhism, that they could only go so far and then at a certain point lacked the cultural context and relationship to life and land that was required to take it to the next level, and therefore seemingly impossible for that wisdom and knowledge to penetrate the population on time and alleviate the possibility of the third great shaking, taking the other path. At the same time, as far as I know, the ashes of the Buddha, for some mysterious reason, came in the same shape of container as David kept his cornmeal in and on his altar. Every morning he climbs up on the roof, he was completely blind at that point, he must be around 108/105 then, I think he went blind at 101 or 102, I don’t remember. He took the ashes of the Buddha and scattered them in the four directions with his morning prayers as if they were cornmeal. To the shock of the Buddhists entourage, who suddenly saw an empty container on his altar and got all freaked out and he just said “your Buddha friend is here to stay, cause I just tossed him to the four directions, after however many thousands of years looking after those ashes.” Something went on there that I am certainly not qualified to say much about, except that the primary conclusion for Hopi was that the third great shaking would take the other direction. The other direction was when the red-hatted beings come out of the west, many in number follow out of the sky like rain, take over North America in one day and kill everything in their way. For Hopi that is whenever the third great shaking arrives, that is a cause for celebration because it is a short lived event. The instructions are not to stick your head out while it takes place but to hide well and stick to the one-hearted ways. That is their instructions to themselves. Shortly after that, would be the return of Pahana, which is the completion of the migration for the white man, which would mean the annihilation of the twohearted way of life and the beginning of the fifth world that is no longer in the grips of the two-hearteds. Question: Migration? Answer: Yes, from the point of emergence from the third world all went on migration to circle the oceans and follow the outline of all the land masses and return to that point of emergence in northern Arizona. So, within their oral history is all kinds of details about South America, Africa. They have details on the whole planet and potentially are related to everything out there, but are the ones who completed their migration and returned to that spot first and are waiting for the rest of the beings involved to complete that migration, and the white brother who got lost on the migration is a key player in that return, cause his return marks the immediacy of the purification and the annihilation of the two-hearteds. -40 minThere is a whole bunch of other ingredients in there that are related to stone tablets. There are other people who finished the migrations but screwed it up just towards the end and were sent back and had to go back through the whole thing to make their way back again and do the entire migration backwards because at one point they fell pry, just before completion, to complacency and comfort, and found a place that they dropped into the feasting and celebration and forgot about the journey that they were on. For Hopi their whole way of life is geared toward the fourth world as a temporary state. If you are born there your hair is cut like this (need info) in bangs and grows straight to (need info) and gets cut again, and then it grows long from there, and the word for that is the window through which I watch and wait for the return of Pahana, which will be the beginning of the firth world. Your whole life is geared toward this life as a passing state, as a journey to the fifth world. Some kind of understanding, depending on how you incorporate it for yourself, about the nature of what we are currently inside of, where the twohearteds have literally taken over the fourth world, they dominate it, they own it, they operate it and from various vantage points you can see various genetic lines and blood lines that have been involved in doing that all along all the way back to pre-Egypt, Egypt. Currently, most in our face, via the Rothchild empire, which runs the global banking system, all interrelated have been responsible for all of the wars and manipulations clearly, at least since the French Revolution when Napoleon orchestrating events playing both sides of the picture to their advantage in order to further enslave the human race for whatever it is the purposes are. The definition of two-hearted is open to interpretation and observation. Theirs is clearly a being present on this planet that is not the same as you and me, perhaps related to the missing piece in that diagram. Something that can orchestrate the mass murder of a 100,000 people and go to a cocktail party, go home and fuck the wife and sleep well while it happens, that is not the same as the rest of us and those people have been around for a long time. They perpetually orchestrate mass murder on a grand scale and if you start to look into the authentic human history it is one giant blood bath, as far back as you can go. It hasn’t changed, other than the bulk of us are insulated from it, to the extent that we have the luxury of pretending it’s not so. Just like when you come down here to Guatemala and there is garbage everywhere and we can’t pretend it is not so. Where we come from it is all removed and put out of sight so we don’t have to see the truth of it and we can pretend it is all roses roses. This is all food for thought, I am no expert, take what you want of it, contemplate it, use it if you can, leave it all here if it is no good to you, I’m not here to convince you of anything and if you actually believe me you are a fool. You need to figure out what it means to understand for yourself and see directly what you can see about the true nature of things …and what does it mean the one-hearted way of life versus the two-hearted way of life? In my perception, for the most part, we are people who are on that ladder. To presume we have actually arrived on the one-hearted road of life would be extremely presumptuous, but are on the path to discovering it and finding out what does it mean to be on the one-hearted road of life versus the two-hearted road of life that we were born into. The programming, for the lack of a better word, which if you take that back into the old world where the story comes from, is not any different than spell casting. We were born into a spell and our mind operates according to the spell that has been cast on it. This is what we call the western world and civilization. We end up believing things and not sure why we believe them as opposed to knowing things. -45min.If you dismantle the word believe it has the word lie in the middle of it. There may be an advantage for the two-hearteds in having us think we are all one, so we don’t look too closely to see if there is something different going on here, and to what degree who might the two-hearteds be, and then the regular beings who inherited the two-hearted program and operate according to it. Even from a scientific point of view they are starting to find brain cells in the heart, and the whole concept that the heart and mind operate as two different things is perhaps on its way to being obsolete. It is become fairly clear on the front edge that the heart actually informs the brain. It even anticipates in the sequence of time prior to the actual occurrence of events that’s incoming and gives the brain an alert. I have a hard time conjuring up all the data at this moment, all the exciting stuff happening in the heart math world and all those different front edges that are being explored. So our current sciences even, and means by which we judge and dissect and dismantle the world, have perhaps been created as part of the program that limits the bandwidth to investigate the true nature of things. It is possibly all designed by the two-hearted way of life as part of the effort to take control of the world. Whether they understand that they are scheduled for annihilation or not, they certainly don’t behave like it. -48min.This is where it starts to cross over into what was supposed to be the other talk “Cooperation between worlds” and from the place where things are now beginning to be understood. If you look at it from a quantum physics point of view, you know every time we find a particle of matter and pull it apart there is actually almost nothing there, and whatever bit we find and pull that apart, and there is almost nothing there again. I am just trying to do an abbreviated version. Some would say the entire volume of matter (that) exists in the universe amounts to about the same as a garbanzo bean and the rest is consciousness. It could be you are not actually here and neither am I, other than as a point of consciousness that’s downloading a frequency according to a software program that’s inherited at birth. Just like your laptop, two different laptops have a variety of influences happen in their lifetime that alter the fine print of how that download takes place, but interpreting frequencies that perhaps all of this is happening in a place of light vibration and frequency. From the indigenous point of view that’s not news. Something we need to relearn. What does that mean, if I'm a frequency emitting device and the world is currently the human mind to the extent that it has been kidnapped and manipulated by controlling the bandwidth it operates in through frequency and manipulating it more then ever in the current time because you have old school witchcraft that came through that opening from the third world, inside that little girl, now mixed with technology for a more pervasive access to the mind of the two-legged than ever before? -50 min.This is all taking place all through frequency, and what we need to relearn about ourselves as frequency managing and frequency emitting devices, it was even mentioned here in a sort of joking way about turning off our cell phones; in actual fact, if we want to do something here of a frequency nature, turning off those devices is absolutely critical because otherwise you are permitting the space with a specific frequency. 1850-1900 hertz is a counter frequency to anything we might decide to do in relation to nature and life, which all happens at 33 hertz and below. The whole thing has been ramped up way beyond. There are plenty of people around who can share about this. I know an old retired Canadian army fellow who spent thirty years researching the devices we now carry in our pockets as a weapon. He made it clear that Motorola, Erickson and Nokia, before they launched the current wireless cellphone signal, financed 7 independent studies that were done to verify that 1850 hertz in particular would attack the interface between the right and left brain, then begin to damage it permanently in such a way that children who are raised inside that signal would not properly form the interface between their right and left brain. This would eventually leave us with a left brain population that would make really good slaves. We are the first population of people to be in the middle of a battlefield being made war on, and completely oblivious to the fact that it is taking place. Our mind is at stake, use it or lose it, learn how it works, how to maintain it, that’s the road to the one-hearted path of life. There are plenty of interference patterns being introduced into that picture to prevent you from discovering the truth of it. Most of what is being marketed to you as spirituality is very sophisticated psychology and has nothing to do with spirituality. It is mostly based on half truths, so that when you investigate it you will actually find something good there, which is actually the bait to suck you into the deeper program. You need to become conscious enough and present enough to understand what you let in, to become the guardian of your own gate. It’s like your laptop, there is a part of us that is completely mechanical, everything that goes in there is still in there. A certain amount of it is completely mechanical, and if you don’t understand how it works somebody else can get inside your laptop and mess with it without you knowing. The human bio computer is no different. If you want to investigate it there is plenty of data, I can give you plenty of trains to follow, especially if you are short on nightmares, there’s lots of them out there. It is not about dwelling on the dark side of things, it is about being present to the truth as it is without fear, being able to stare it right in the eye and hold your ground. That is the one-hearted road. It’s not about finding some tranquil place to indulge in self-tickling and hide from the rest of it. We are all needed to arrive, the human being with a mind that is working not kidnapped, that can see straight, hear straight and speak straight, is the only thing that will bring us forward from the current nightmare that we are in called the human condition on this planet at this time. For us it is the most difficult thing to look at, because the bulk of us come from the upper 1% of the population on this planet. We are the privileged ones. At the same time we were targeted for that reason, as the one people that would have sufficient luxury and education to possible figure out what was going on and so a lot of energy and effort went into capturing our attention and diverting it and including what’s even referred to in the mind control program as escape management. -55min.If you have people trying to escape the box they are in, you create a new box for them to escape to, and they think they have escaped, but they are just in another box. We hop from box to box, but where does free independent thought lie? What constitutes a free mind is that is actually capable of direct perception, and direct perception of the simple truth of whatever is on the end of your nose. Back to cooperation between worlds, it’s the same relationship that is being used on the dark side to manipulate our pictures, that is on the true side or natural side of life, where for indigenous people the ability to communicate with nature is through frequency. I would say that the biggest thing that we have to relearn is what that actually means for ourselves. I’m just going to blurt all this out, you can do whatever you want with it, you can decide that I am some kind of nut, that’s cool, wouldn’t be the first time. None of this is a putdown because it’s a matter of inheritance. We come from a vacuum basically, and because we come from a vacuum we are extremely vulnerable to looking for something to fill the hole. We end up getting all kinds of nonsense marketed to us as possible filler for the hole. When really the hole doesn't need to be filled, we all have holes in us. As far as i can tell, the hole in me might come from life. It’s not about getting rid of them, but getting to the point where they no longer have suction. There are a lot of holes out there busy trying to fill themselves with anything. Frequency vibration, separate from the conceptual communication, is taking place while you are also communicating with me through vibration. The tone of what comes out of me is also what you are listening to and reading in some manner. To understand what prayer actually means to indigenous people… which we have all misconstrued because, where we come from, whether it is a catholic or protestant or similar, it’s kind of all messed up, either something is mesmerized or read out of a book or some kind of subjective moaning and groaning to some kind of central office in the sky that gives us resistant to discovering the true nature of it, which has to do with vibration. Even here with this cacao and how we do things when we get together. It seems like we are beginning to understand, in the case of food or anything we take in, we are eating its entire vibrational history. -1hourWe are also beginning to get the idea our mind has the power to affect that situation. Yet how to actually go about it, as opposed to sort of daydream about it or have some fancy idea about it, some of that has to do with being able to speak directly to life, from the one-heart to the one-heart of all within every other life form. If I want to talk to this fire I need to talk to this fire, not talk in front of the fire about what I would like to talk to the fire about. Learning how to use your voice and speak directly. If I am trying to sort something out with you, it is a real different thing to say “well I think this, and I think that, and there is all these things I would like to be able to tell you” instead of just saying something directly to you. For example “I think this of you, this is what I see, this is how it is, this is how I feel about you towards you.” Direct communication, and in the case of communicating with this fire, this fire is not particularly interested in what concepts I come up with when I am talking to it; but in order to get my being to operate I use concepts, I talk out loud to hook my brain into my heart which gets what’s in my heart wants to come out. It is the frequency or the vibration of what comes out of me what this fire understands. We are working to get to that place where the frequency or vibration of who we are comes out and can communicate. If you want to bless food, you need to talk to the food, not stand around and talk about the food in front of the food, talk to the food. If you want to bless your garden, pray with your garden, talk to it, not sit in the garden and talk about the garden in front of the garden. How you use your voice affects what your vibration is, what actually comes out of you. That is where the communication is and that’s what we have to relearn. How to do that. To say there is a flow of creation out of which this food came… There is a flow of creation out of which this cacao came and you became cacao, a living being and there you are, you grow on a tree and went through this whole process, you become who you are and in this case you are medicine, way beyond what I could possible understand with my small mind sitting in front of you. And here you are, in front of me, and I'm going to use you and take you into myself. I want that to be somehow good, and that you would have the right thought in mind in going into me. Anything that happened to you along the way that wouldn’t be of benefit to me, maybe you could leave that behind before you go into me so it could be the best it could be when you go into me. Or I could sit here and have a discussion with someone about that instead, how I would like the cacao to be that way. If I actually want it to happen, I have to talk to it. It is alive, it’s there, but to get past the place in us that doesn't yet realize there is something to talk to… This is because we come from this paradigm of sciences that explains it is all what not a who. When we finally get it, that what we are involved with is one massive who, the what is simply the physical correspondent in this dimension, and that everything in this dimension has a multidimensional correspondent that runs through the entire picture all operating according to frequency. One of my favorite stories I heard while driving after a ceremony, on one of those late night radio shows in Canada… An Australian women had the idea that domestic bees are accredited with more things than they are actually capable of doing, and a lot of what domestic bees are accredited with is actually taken care of by wild bees. Her idea was to go in and magnify that picture and find out more. She basically had the idea boiled down to a tomato flower and the fact that a domestic bee was incapable of getting the nectar from a tomato flower and yet a wild bee had no problem. She then amplified that trying to get to the bottom of why is it that way. She eventually verified wild bees generate a frequency or sing a song to the tomato flower that is the tomato flower song. The tomato flower goes “whoooow, take all the nectar you want.” The domestic bees fly up and say, “give me the fucking pollen” and the tomato flower says “fuck you” and nothing happens. The bees know the song. Indigenous people have songs they know depending on their geography. They know the song of a cedar tree, the song of a salmon. There is a song of everything, because they live in a world that is understood as frequency. If you have those kind of ears you can hear the song of everything. In some ways, it’s possible to see it all as a song. Our brain has been educated in a very specific way. We weren’t taught that thoughts have substance and are a law conformable substance like every substance in the universe. Emotions have substance and are also law conformable. Instead, we have a spell cast on us to create from what, another vantage point, could be seen as a cancerous cyst called identity, wandering around thinking it is those thoughts and feelings. So far in 60 years of being alive I haven’t been able to verify there is such a thing as Doonie, other than a song playing itself out. It came out of the dirt, made its own unique song, will go back into the dirt when the song ends. Subvocalized thought, which we have been trained to be obsessed with. As modern western people, we all run around with this endless internal dialogue mattering away like someone left the radio on and we think it is us and our thought process. However, when I am thinking a thought sequence; what makes that different than when I’m humming a song inside my mind? This sequence of sound patterns my mind has been trained to attach specific definitions to, it is actually a sequence of frequency patterns that thoughts take place in, that are no different than songs. If my thinking is no different than songing then; where is the place that walt disney jingles become stuck in my head? from my kids watching walt disney movies, and songs that were on the radio in 1969 that, they seem to be obsessed with them down here in Guatemala. I get on a tuc-tuc and all I have to hear is one syllable and I can’t get rid of the thing for the rest of the day until I override it with something else. There is a part of our mind that is mechanical. If a song can be put in our minds and not realize it is in there and all we need to hear is one word for it to play itself out, what makes this different than our thought sequences? If it has been put in there and we hear one word that triggers a thought sequence, to what degree are we fooling ourselves when we think we are experiencing free independent thought? -1hour 10min.At this point it seems critical to understand who we are, what we are, how we work and realize that we haven't been given the whole story intact, and the bulk of the story has been hidden from us. There is definitely somebody who receives benefit from us not understanding who we are, what we are. We make ourselves vulnerable to programing so that others can pull a mind coup on the entire planet in no time; like 9/11, for example. They played a film clip that was actually from the 90’s. It was a complete fraud on CNN about once every 15 minutes that day, which was actually Palestine handing out candy and celebrating. What they were actually celebrating is the day that Hussein invaded Kuwait. The same film clip was being used to program the western world to try, judge and convict the muslim world for the events of 911. This was completely successful and continues to be to this day and has laid the path for a continuous state of murder and mayhem in the Middle East, which is escalating as we speak. All of these things you can look at from a number of different vantage points to perceive the situation we find ourselves in now. There is one edge that I'm happy to be part of here, where I feel what’s being explored and unraveled is all the possibilities for what responsible life might look like if it were allowed to happen. On the other side of this, we actually need to unravel the physical reality of how to do this, whether it is with rocket stoves or natural building. All of these things are going in the direction of creating the manual or the operating manual for the one-hearted time. At the same time, none of this on its own is going to get us there. It is every individual life form’s responsibility, according to its individual understanding and destiny, to bring forward the quality of being and being presence that can operate free of spell casting. This allows a being presence with a free mind that can actually simply perceive the truth as it is. My senses indicate from this comes direct information on where one goes from there, and what ones individual destiny is. As long as we don't have that, there is nobody home. As long as the bulk of what is walking around on two legs is absentee landlords who allow their physical being in this dimension to be controlled and manipulated, including its thought forms, feelings and responses in a mechanical way, then there is not much hope. So, along with the creation of an understanding of what would responsible life look like, if we actually had the opportunity to do it here on this planet, also requires what would a fully functional responsible human being look like if they began to arrive. The nature of that project and my understanding in terms of the annihilation of the two-hearted way of life and the breakthrough into the firth world or the onehearted road of life is through the free heart mind human presence. In esoteric Christianity, that would be the second coming. This is the same thing you find in all the traditions, which have mostly been used for mind control, but in their essence also contains information and certainly half truths. The place where the human project completes itself, the completing of the migration, is a process taking place through these four worlds of purification. This migration leads to the fifth world where the one-hearted being presence arrives, which is not a given. Back to the hopi story… They say when Pahana returns, if there is no onehearted way of life present at the return of Pahana, then the serpents who hold the earth in balance through the poles will release their grip. The earth will then roll over four times and only the ants will survive. So, it has been their effort to maintain that one-hearted presence throughout time and space on behalf of that day, in spite of what is going on around them. The whole process many indigenous people have been involved in, is one of compensation in order to create balance for an extremely ever increasingly unbalanced situation. Most of this work takes place in secret and in hiding, to do the best possible rebalancing of the situation. If the two-hearteds had their way, they would find out where that is taking place and put a stop to it, so it has to stay out of sight. At what point as a civilization, a western civilization, has someone asked Gandhi what he thinks of civilization and he said, “It would be a great idea” What exactly is it we have been sold as a civilization? There are lots of questions to be asked. The effort, from my point of view, is an opportunity that exists 24/7. At this point in my life it is not dependent on anything external. It encourages that in all life, the effort to bring forward the quality of being and presence, can actually do this thing and hold it and work with it. We are not going to daydream our way through it, and yet there are forces that are going to try and convince us that we can, for example law of attraction or The Secret. If we just daydream, it it will happen, which is a bunch of fancy spell casting on the mind. Even within those movements there are tidbits of truth, for example Abraham Hicks or Ester Hicks writings. The idea of establishing your own awareness of the truth of your own vibrational offering, in any given moment, which is more related to the law of attraction, than the contents of your mind, establishing your being presence that can actually be in touch with its vibrational offering at any given moment, and therefore interact with the rest of reality or nature as a vibrational offering. I can explain this through an example. I live from hunting a lot and wild meat, but it is not really any different from carrots. When you harvest things and you talk to it directly, what you are doing is inviting the spirit of what you are eating to come with it. If you don't talk to it, you chase the spirit of it away. Your food is multidimensional, but when you chase the spirit of it away what you are left with is the bones or the remains of what was food. So, what most of the modern world lives on are the bones of what was food. What Gergef called “the food from which the food has long since departed.” Question: One of my teachers told me the Hopi hunters would pray and fast for days and then go and sit at a tree. They would continue to pray and fast and would wait for the deer to come to them. The deer would give their spirit to feed the community… Is that true? Answer: Mmhhhmmm, there are lots of different ways things unfold and unique particulars for each tribe. For example, in my backyard there is always a tree that somehow called me. A tradition I practice is to put all four legs of the deer up in that tree. It’s part of a prayer of the way the natives traveled here and the beauty and the gracefulness that they moved with would continue in their journey through this world. The tip of their heart gets cut off and goes underneath that same tree with a tobacco. I sometimes have trouble explaining this to some of my landlords along the way, but it is a prayer I offer. -1hour 21min.We would also put up sweats for the deer when the season would come along with big bowls of apples to feed them and talk to them. It is a love affair. It is a completely different thing than sport hunting, which is a rather sick event that goes on. It’s learning how to kill in love, which is what we are actually engaged in because everything that lives kills to live, you may have managed to convince yourself it is not, but if you look at nature, which we are apart of, we are all that way. It’s all an exchange, if you want something you give something, if you take something you give something. This is what makes it work. Similarly, if we understood this in our relations between each other it would all be different. The orchestrated lack would end if the give and take was understood. If I want something from this fire, I have to give it something when I talk to it. Anything out there is in this way. Nature operates entirely on an exchange. Everything gives a way to the larger life and so do we, we just happen to have a spell cast on us that makes us oblivious to it and somewhat diluted about it. We behave as if we are immortal and have no obligation, and that this is a free lunch where we get to self-tickle at anyone’s expense to whatever degree we choose. But it is not true. No surprise that we are relatively uneducated about it, we were born into a world where at best we make up five percent of the population on the planet that has some reasonable version of what we would call a regular standard of living. In order to do it we consume over 40% of the world’s resources to live this way, and that means if 12% of the population is going to have the standard of living we have come to call normal, then we are going to consume 80% of the world’s resources. If 15% of the world is going to have the standard of living we have come to call normal, the other 85% simply have to die cause there is nothing left. Our people, our parents and the people before them have all been through the spells that have been cast through their kidnapped minds, have consented to all of it to some degree. We all continue to consent and need to unravel what it means, and what does consent mean when we participate. For example, I am a Canadian citizen, what does that mean? It means I was sold to some illegal entity that has had me on the stock market since the day I was born, trading futures against my name and using it as a trade name or a corporate name. Through the admiralty law they have claimed me as their property or livestock, delivered through the waters of the birth canal to the land. It’s like a giant barnyard. It’s possible to see there is a way in which the two-hearteds are farming the rest of us. This helps us understand why they have no problem deleting chucks of us whenever they feel like it. I could go way further into that picture but you have to be up for the nightmares. On some level we have a lot of work to do. Whatever way I could inspire you to figure out what that is for you, what that means for you, and how to bring forward the quality of being and presence in your life that is not afraid of the truth, not hiding from it but willing to go straight at it because in there is all of it, the beauty the awe, the wonder, the joy; it is also there in the death, the grief, the loss and the pain extending to where one can fully experience the humanness of pain and the depth of joy. We have been taught to run from the pain, and in the process our joy is very shallow and very externally dependent on some kind of input from outside to manufacture it, because it doesn't come from within. It’s so profoundly wonderful to be a human being and be alive at this time, and at the same time its the most bezerk situation in our known history to be alive in (it), with blood drinking monsters roaming around everywhere, consuming everything in sight, making a giant mess out of any of it and murdering anything that gets in their way. However the magic is right here in this moment as well. At the same time we have to find a kind of balance that can stand up, be in it, fully embrace it and then have the courage and the strength to follow whatever the vision is of your own individual destiny and vision in your life to bring forward your gifts. Everyone of you are needed and there is no time to waste. You can make choices, I can certainly speak for that being older, you can go off in this direction for a decade and go yikes, and then you go and do another decade off in that direction. It’s all very precious, precious, precious, precious, and in that way I would wish you the best of whatever you take from here, that you could make use of it and you can get to the heart of your own vision, unobstructed by all the things that want to sell you funny ideas and funny images about the true nature of things. Believe nobody. Find out for yourself. Anybody who tells you they know, you’re in the wrong place. It’s an unfoldment process. Newness is happening all the time. I don't know shit and I know less shit today than I knew yesterday. It gets worse all the time. It is a complete baffling mystery, and in the not knowing is the knowing. The place where presumption is not happening, assumption is not happening. The openness that can simple perceive life directly and allow new information to happen and new experience, new perception, newness to happen. While at the same time, unobstructed by the vulnerability of the mind to spell casting, where somebody else can put their picture into your mind and have it appear like direct perception. Your mind is precious and there are many many things that are operating all around you that want to take it in a different direction other than the true path of life or the one-hearted road of life. This is the despair of the twohearted way of life as it speeds towards annihilation and grasps at everything it can get its hands on. It is going to throw at us everything it can get its hands on and ramp up the frequency and the signals. -1hour 30min.At the same time there are tremendous tools. I’m kind of a dinosaur myself with technology. Watching the way you guys use Facebook and the Internet and see this whole other world that is beginning on the positive side with those tools. And how wonderful and amazing that is. I can’t say I actually understand it but don't need to. At the same time be careful with it. Remember what it is. Shield yourself; turn it off when you don't need it. Unplug your router at night so you can sleep without it. You don't need wireless in your head, like in my house, I had wired every room so we could turn off the wireless and not have to live with that 24/7. Don't loose track of what it is and at the same time use it skillfully to the benefit of whatever words you would use to describe it. The arrival of the one-heartered road of life, the fifth world, the new world, whatever words you are going to use. All these tools have two sides to them and its all potentially amazing and wonderful. So, obviously I could go on forever or at least a year or so anyway. Question: Did you say the Hopi map showed the time where the two-hearted way ends? Answer: Yes, it is a zigzag line that has a big zig and then nothing more. Question: And you were able to tell where the ladder came in, in the 60’s and in relation to that it looks like very soon? Answer: The third great shaking is due and the return of Pahana, which the only visuals for that are red hatted beings coming from the west, fall out of the sky like rain take over turtle island in one day and kill everything (in) their way. Of course the first thing that pops into everyone’s mind is “it must be the Chinese right? Little red berets parachuting out from the west”, but it could be a virus, or it could be the cesium 137 that is inundating North America as we speak. Who knows what those red hatted beings look like, or what form it takes, or at what point it becomes visible. I am assuming that most of us here are from North America, particularly the West Coast. We are being inundated by cesium 137 and other things, people are eating it, It’s in the rain water, broad leaf greens metabolize it directly into the leaves and the vegetarians are really doing it to themselves big time. This is coming from the radiation from Fukushima. It’s literally being hidden from you from the extent that it is happening. People with independent breathing machines in Oregon find ten radioactive particulates a day in a machine that does the same amount of breathing as a human lung does in a day. Basically you are being inundated by it, but what is it? We have an unrealistic understanding of radioactivity. It is all a part of the post World War II massive fear generation. For example, when I was in elementary school we had to stick our head between our legs like that was somehow going to improve the experience of being vaporized. I could never figure it out as a kid. What does that got to do with anything? What is radioactive? It is a frequency-emitting particle. Again our needing to understand entrainment, how hypnosis works, spell casting. So, a radioactive particle, if it embeds in your lung tissue it is basically singing a song, and if you are an absentee landlord your cells begin singing that song, just like a Walt Disney jingle, and at the point where your cells are singing that song, you turn inside out and die. It is only because your cells learn to sing that song. Radioactive is frequency emitting, is what it means. Again it is right there. So maybe that holy vent is another kick in the ass to get to the place where we understand ourselves as a frequency event that is happening. There is a necessity to understand entrainment, or if that is not a familiar word, hypnosis, entrancement or spell casting. We are swimming in a sea of it all the time, media is involved with this all the time. When, for example, David Menongway, where the Hopi story comes from, the first time he went out into the world and was in New York and Chicago and places, when he came back to his own people they asked “What did you see out there?” Most of those people had never been out there. His primary description was that everywhere there was witchcraft. This is because that set of eyes that understands the true nature of things looks at billboards and advertisements as all witchcraft. It is all spell casting. They are all involved in casting spells on each other; it is a soup of spell casting. A whole bunch of witches going at each other. That is what his eyes saw because it is a different vantage point. They can look at all that and see it for what it is. The word witch comes in the Indian world as a dark word, more appropriately would be black witch, to be politically correct. That is how they understood it, as they understood all kinds of things, just like the corn. They understood the DNA of corn and how to carry it through the time space continuum. It is like when I first started working on the genetic diversity project; all the hippies look at the corn seed and right away start picking out the nice ones. The old people would come and shove it all back together. They would ask “What are you crazy? You are going to replant it according to its visual appearance? Inside of that little pile is all the genetic information, if you start picking it out according to your likes and dislikes you are going to loose it.” Their understanding of the terms of permaculture, seeds and genetic diversity in their language is a called Novate, which means the physical correspondent of a multidimensional event. When you have a seed, it is a physical correspondent of a multidimensional event. When you break the connection between the seed and the multidimensional event, which you could perhaps substitute the word spirit for, then it no longer has intelligence. As long as it has Novate, and the spirit, and the life form or the multidimensional intactness of a life form, then it has the capacity to learn. The original seeds are capable of going (to) places and learning how to grow there. Whereas what we have now is the seeds without Novate and are incapable of learning anything, and now they are genetically designed to be dependent in a variety of ways. And that is just the beginning of something far worse than what we have right now. We could spend the whole night on that one. Novate is, for example, when I took blue corn from the southwest and, as its assistant, was able to help it learn how to grow in six years in Canada. Blue corn became growable in Canada by creating viable seeds that would grow in that climate. It taught itself how to do it in six years. This is because it has a capacity to learn. Those seeds are in danger everywhere now. There are entities out and about who are seeking the deliberate destruction of all of those seeds as well, other than the ones that they store in 1,1000 degrees below zero in liquid nitrogen, so they can own and operate the genetic material of this planet as the kidnappers or pirates of life, for whatever reason is beyond me. According to this map their time is limited. Then it is either us and the one-hearted road of life or the ants doing it on their own. Question: So, it showed the road continuing on the one-hearted road after the other one ends? Answer: Yes, it goes all the way around the rock, it is a circle. Question: The spoken part, for example, the red hatted beings coming from the west… Was that just the oral tradition that goes with the map or is it written somewhere as well? Answer: It is, all that is coded into the symbols. Yes, it is what those old people where pulling out of it or what it had attached to it all along. There are stories for every little line that is in that map. There is a song that goes with the migration and it is about the completion of the migration and the arrival in the fifth world. It is a really easy song and it is for everyone, and the more people that sing it the better. When we are done here we can finish with that song. Question: So, Donnie when you have a moment I would like to hear about the connection of the Hopi prophecy and the Rainbow tribe and rainbow gatherings. Is that a myth? Could you speak about this? Answer: The whole Rainbow thing doesn’t really exist in the Hopi story. Some of the other tribes will talk about the Rainbow people. Richard _____ has something called A fire, which would be the creation of a new race based on the invading one and the original one. It would become a new distinct people. Question: Any connection to the Hippies? Answer: Yes, that would be their version. So similarly the image of the Rainbow was never used. And of course the Rainbow tribe has been daydreaming all kinds of shit for decades about its importance to itself. Did that come out of my mouth? Shhhh, hahaha. I can’t help it sometimes. Question: You said something about how the one-heart has to do with being able to look at fear and not let it affect you. Could you elaborate on that? Answer: Ya, that is a good one, we could take a poke at that. Fear, from my experience, is a part of us; it is part of our guidance system. There is a very legitimate function for fear that amounts to more than being a pedestrian who fears traffic. However, It keeps your toes from being run over by a tuc-tuc. It is part of the guidance system. There is a movement afoot that would be anti-fear. I run into people and start talking about what is going on in the world and they say, “you are fear based”. The people who generally come up with that concept of being fear based often look like the most fearful people I have ever met. They are more afraid of fear than anything. It is actually a welcome part of my guidance system. There is anxiety added to fear, which is useless and simply clouds perception. Fear plus anxiety equals useless fear. The same way, you can take apart pain, sensation plus fear equals pain. To be afraid of a sensation or being able to identify those parts of ourselves, and what the warning system is saying, is vital. There is a movement or a program out there to get us to discard fear from the guidance system. It is to me a very questionable thing taking place, where people are afraid to actually look at their fear. When their fear, as part of the guidance system, might be actually giving them some critical information about the time we are living in. There is a huge discouragement to engage in anything that has to do with fear because “we are all one man”, and it is all fine, just go back to sleep, just go back to self-tickling. That is all you have to do, is just daydream about the world the way you want it to be, and ignore the rest, and if fear comes up, it is some kind of bad thing, so just look the other way. There are a lot of strange ingredients out there. To me fear is part of the guidance system, you don’t want it with the hands on the steering wheel, but you definitely want it in the car, maybe in the back seat. Occasionally if it gets out of line put it in the trunk, sooner or later let it ride in the front seat. Question: So behind our fears are our gifts or keys to unlocking our path? Answer: Yes our information. We have a guidance system, it is seriously impaired, and where in the modern world it is called education. Question: Makes me think of the permaculture principle the problem is the solution. Answer: Yes, you have to be able to look straight at it and not be afraid of it. Just like the hippies down on the highway. Where do you come from, where are you and where are you going? Part of unraveling this thing is understanding how we got here, and what the truth of the situation is, which is a challenge. So, most people avoid it because their only imaginary response is fear and anger. Perhaps if that is all you have in inside, then you are better off to ignore it for awhile, do some more inner work on your being presence until your being presence is well enough to stand up and look straight at the truth. In the end, looking at the truth is where the answer is, just not everyone is in the shape to do it. So, they get spun off by the details of the truth of what is happening, and to the extent to which one needs to dwell on the details is directly related to how much programing you need to break down. We come from this world where we imagine there are things like democracy. We imagine most of the infrastructure we are witnessing is in some loosely half-assed way created with our well-being in mind and is just malfunctioning. It is really difficult to cross the threshold into realizing that what we are experiencing as a malfunction is something working exactly how it was designed to work, while we think just because of greed’s gone astray things are starting to fall apart now, and look so good. During the same interval from 19802000 70% of the western world lost 40% of its net worth. During the same 20 year interval the top 1% of the population increased its net worth by 3,500%. It is not malfunctioning; it is doing what they designed it to do. It is sucking the life out of the population. It is a feeding frenzy. Most people in the western world who are even experiencing abundance by global standards are being forced to live on three to five percent of the outcome of their own efforts. So image if the human will and the human effort were cut loose, free, to experience all of the results of its own effort… Wow that is unfathomable, where we could be, where we could get to, because right now it is being pirated away. Question: Donnie would you say there is a difference between recognition of danger and fear? From my experience I think fear has always been used as a control construct of people to basically put them into this system of believing whatever you tell them because you are initiating that reptile brain in people. The medulla oblongata, that is basically the easiest way to control the population. Answer: Well ultimately it comes down to fear of death. So if you are not diluted about your own mortality, then your fear response appears differently. If you live in the place of fear of death, then everything is to be afraid of. Response: I feel that the recognition of danger is a way to overcome any sort of fear construct and not let it consume your life. Answer: In that context you are using it more as the anxiety version. It doesn’t serve anybody any good, it will just rot you. Question: So in relation to fear, you were talking earlier about the stuff made of nightmares and would welcome the information if anyone was interested. It just seems that the more we are able to look at, that the more we able to understand those things and how we are able to go on the path of the one-hearted. I am curious to know how to go about getting that information. Answer: Well, ya, then if you are in good shape then the nightmare side of it all becomes motivation. The more and more you realize it, then you don’t have the luxury of wasting your life in some version of self-tickling, that your life is an offering and it is your obligation in being born to bring forward that offering and actually make it happen. The presence of the contrary pattern just increases the motivation. The specifics on nightmares, I can give you all kinds of stuff. Look up Cathy O’bryan Tranceformation of America, it will give you huge clues into how all of our minds are being messed with. She is from the early version of the mind control program. She was sold to the CIA when she was six years old in the days when they would hunt multiple personality disorder on the street because it would give them a quantum leap ahead in creating independent channels for the mind control zombies, which we call multiple personality disorder. They could then program them certain ways. She claims there are 10,000’s of versions of her. I actually met her in person at one point. She was designed with 13 different channels. She personally delivered the aids virus to Haiti, was used as a sex slave for most of the presidents and diplomats within our modern history and can give you ridiculous details into each of their kinky habits. Another fellow Mark Phillips actually stole her from the CIA when he realized he was working for the dark side, and took her with him because he had the neurolinguistic codes to operate her with. He spent two years unraveling the program because the 13 different channels in her neuropath ways were setup in such a way that if any two of them began to communicate, the body would go into cardiac arrest and die. He undid that so he could weave the neuropath ways back together and insert her actually being presence back into those memory files and turn her into a living being with access to all of the information that she had been used for. They lived together on the run from people trying to kill them for several years. Now they have been marginalized as lunatics and are able to relax a little bit more. She wrote a book called Tranceformation of America that was banned in America, of course, but is easily found. It is all a good education to understand the mind control program. You begin to see what has already taken place in your own mind, and what your education system did to you from day one by externalizing your center of gravity, teaching you that the guidance system comes from without rather than from within, externalized authority that no longer trusts your own instinct and intuition. Now we are in a time where time itself is moving at a (high) rate, since last year 2012 in December. The cognitive mind, which can only do the 24 frames per second, is actually obsolete, it was never designed for this, and this is why it is actually having a hard time keeping up. I fired mine. Instinct and intuition are the only things that can actually move at the speed we are now moving, and for most of us instinct and intuition is mostly dysfunctional and not something we can actually move with and turn 180 degrees on a dime with. However, the key to navigating these times is to get that actually working. It is critical to become completely comfortable with total uncertainty, with functional instinct and intuition, and to me are like keys to working with these times. If you could see a snapshot of my life it is completely bizerk. Uncertainty is polite. You can stop me at any time. Question: What advice do you have for disengaging from this system? Answer: Fixing the absentee landlord situation. Establishing what your being presence is, and then establishing what it would take for it to take up residence within your multidimensional physical existence. Also become present to your life as it is unfolding, and no longer victimize by the mind or the spells cast on the mind. What form that would take would be unique to you, but (do) your own investigation into that process and trust yourself to dig in there and find out what is going on, observe, witness, practice being presence, establish what is being presence, what is it in you that lives independently of your mind? From there the being presence can begin to witness the mind and what it is actually up to. Then comes all the information of what constitutes a free mind versus a mind that is just spitting out stuff like a vending machine where you put in the three quarters and out comes the pepsi again. This is the short version. Ivan: So to bring this vibration in this energy, before your song, I would like to lead a small meditation. So if people could just sit up straight and close their eyes. We are going to take a deep breath. We are going to feel how a smile emerges from deep inside ourselves and slowly take over all of our body. If you have ever been told you cannot smile and meditate, forget about that. If you still haven’t been able to smile, I will go around and tickle you. Notice that as you smile, that you are radiating energy and this energy is the energy of who you truly are at all times. Notice how your toes are glowing, this helps us take notice of how our entire body is glowing with light. This light comes from a place where we are one with the whole. This light comes from our true multidimensional self. That who we truly are. Say thank you to that light, honor that light, recognize that light, because it is with us always. Some say that the light of who we truly are is scarier than any of those nightmares. Thank you Donnie. SONG Is there is a hand drum in here? We have the water jug, ya, that will work, but dry hide is better for these songs. So if you can catch this, take it home with you. It is all based on fives, cause it is about the fifth world. So they would say that is the oldest song in this world. They came here singing it and they are going to keep singing it until they arrive in the fifth world. 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