SMALL DOG PARK ALL DOG PARK albert greenshields reserve- DOG PARK context NOT TO SCALE Sand pit SMALL DOG PARK Bench seat 1.25m fence Granulitic sand (red) EXISTING CAR PARK Entry Entry Wet Area (drink fountain + dog wash) Granulitic sand path Mulched garden bed ALL DOG PARK EXISTING PICNIC FACILITIES 1.5m fence Grassed mound Sand pit albert greenshields reserve- DOG PARK conCEPT NOT TO SCALE Ramp Dog wash Dog shaped entry sign Logs Hoops albert greenshields reserve - DOG PARK elements Granite boulders Tunnel Doggy waste bags Timber sleepers Weave poles Additional Comments provided by the respondents Up to local residents living nearby. I have no objections to Greenshields BUT my no1 preference is Brompton Green because of distance. It would be difficult for me as I am 77 years old and it would be difficult for me. I prefer either Josiah Mitton or Brompton Green, as they are closer. Also my dog is very small one. She is only 6 months old. I prefer the first option as it is only a short walk down my street. The new option (greenshields) is a little bit further away and probably wouldn’t go there everyday like I would if it was at Josiah Mitton Reserve. Isn’t 67% enough for a small dog park at Josiah Mitton? This is only part of the plan. Is it intended to use the bowling club car park? If so what security provisions will be made? Will the security operate 24 hours? How will control of the dogs and owners operate? Hi, I am not against this but would not use it. Can see benefit for dog owners but for me, I have no desire to use it. Will have no pets by the time we move in. Thanks for asking. Sorry, but not being familiar with the above mentioned reserve, nor a dog owner, I don’t feel qualified to offer you any reasonable or valid advice on the matter in question. It would have been helpful to provide street access on the map. Unless land is taken from the Croydon Bowling Club. Then I oppose the dog park. Yes i do but i am disappointed that this dog park will now be further away from the area I live in. It would be nice to have a dog park in the local walking distance area. There are lots of dogs here that would benefit from one close. The original proposed sites would have been better. What about a small dog park in Thomas Harkness Reserve? Would have preferred Brompton Green as this is closer to my home. Although I don’t have a dog, my family visit with dogs. Looks great!! We need a dog park in Brompton it would be GREAT! We are a very dog friendly community! Large and small dog park definitely preferred Design and position looks good A perfect area for a dog park. Great space away from the residential area. The trees add to the natural environment for the dogs. An extra attraction to the reserve. Seems a good location to drop off dogs by a car as the car park is off the main Torrens road. You really need to consider all aspects of disturbance to near residential dwellings such as possible dog barking. It is a good idea to have dog poo bags at nearby entrance to dog park. fines should apply for people not complying with council and dog rules, ie. signage If the existing park is underutilised then this area should be re-developed for dogs and their owners Yes No Unsure This is a great idea to have a fully fenced dog park within walking distance from home! Walking dog to the park would be much more convenient rather than driving to North Adelaide or Findon. I love the idea of the exercise equipment for dogs as well, because it's not easy to find a fully fenced place for the dogs to run and exercise at the same time. It's great to divide the park into "small" and "big". As I am an owner of a big dog and often small dog owners get sensitive when my big Labrador approaches their small dog to play. Brompton is close to: - Woodville dog park, North Adelaide dog park, and Bonython dog run park BUT there is no dedicated park within walking distance, so the proposal is great but what about large dogs!! Dog parks (Like community gardens) are a great place to connect with residents and build community ties. Looking forward to it! If the residents in close proximity are happy with it is a yes from me. As long as the residents close to the park are unable to hear the dogs barking. If they are not agreeable then it is a no from me. I am not a dog owner but know several locals who have dogs and would use the facility Great Idea Keep Brompton Green green With our increasing population, our community needs this facility for both canines and humans, hopefully everyone can become more vigilant with cleaning up after their pet, especially in this environment. Many don’t clean up in the streets, but hopefully under the eyes of others they will be more responsible. Mans best friend deserves this facility. Probably a good idea for people to have a safe place to walk their dogs. Looks a food location - near a car park. Shouldn’t impact on too many people. Not sure of the propose of the sand pits - may encourage agile cats to climb fence and use it as cat litter I think its a great idea and if the neighbouring houses of Josiah Mitton Reserve are concerned about it being too close then a bigger reserve for it is a great idea. A small dog park would have fit in the reserve next to me quiet well but I can understand residents may be concerned about noise and safety. Unfortunately there is a dog who gets put out the front of a (front yard) house near me at times and it barks all day so having a dog park may make it or entice it to bark more. I feel sorry for the dog - a dog park is a great idea probably just what that poor dog needs as it seems to be missing out on all the fun. I feel like knocking on the door and asking if I can take it for a walk. I cant have a dog because I wouldn’t be cruel enough to leave it in the small yard that I have so I have a cat instead. I can appreciate the concerns of the surrounding residents to the previous suggestions. This new suggestion has ample space for a dog park it is far enough distance away from residential areas Sounds a good idea Wright Street us dog park - Torrens Road Great to hear you have expanded the scope to include all dogs Would take the dog there to socialise it with other dogs. Not sure how much we would use the park as people leave broken balls etc around which my dog then finds and focuses on and no longer wants to socialise. If it goes ahead area of the park needs to be large enough that you can throw a ball/ Frisbee. Grassed area needs to remain green and grassy and not become muddy dirt pits when it rains. A much better choice than Josiah Mitton as it will not be directly out front of anyone’s house and does not back onto anyone’s home. Also there is more area for parking for people who will bring their dog by car - less congestion My precious dog past away in November 2012 I think the dog park is a great idea regardless of the location, however I do prefer the previously proposed location (Josiah Mitton Reserve) as it isn't located on a main road (Torrens) and therefore close to traffic. LOVE the ideas esp. the dog wash/ wet area and exercise equipment. I’m pleased that you’ve found a way to accommodate large dogs Whilst I avoid dog parks with my dog (due to other dogs having unknown aggressive traits or lack of vaccinations) I support the introduction of dog parks for other dog owners who enjoy such facilities. Small dog owners feel more confident taking their dogs into designated 'small dog park' areas. We had previously requested that Council consider a space for larger dogs as we are owners of a retired racing greyhound. This new proposal will now make it possible for us to exercise our dog in a safe and secure environment. Thankyou for your consideration. We are very much in favour of this new improved proposal. Greenshields Reserve is a good location. The ideas and plans look terrific. We were disappointed William (John?) Harkness was designed as a dog off leash park. There a quite a few large dogs that run everywhere. If this park stays as a dog free zone, would it please be possible to have the gates put back on the playground? We have a child who is terrified of dogs. I fully support the proposed dog park up coming @ Albert Greenshields Reserve for all dog owners in the area, as we needed a dog friendly park in the area. Good Luck I am not a dog owner but fully support the idea of a small dog park which many of my neighbours would use I don't think it is necessary to have a dog park in the area. But at least this offer is not on the resident's front door invading privacy and people's sleep. Waste of money, people walk their dog's regardless of a park or not. A park is not going to make them responsible to pick up dog poo. Council has failed to address more immediate issues of improving amenities at the park (BBQ area, lighting, seating etc) and expanding the children's playground. The close proximity of residents and the children's playground will create problems in terms of safety. The dog park is not an appropriate area. Suggest that use the back of the unused land of the bowling club or reduced the size of the dog park to half to fund the other more immediate needs of the existing park. The dog park should not extend beyond the back of the bowling club to allow further development. I support it because it is not situated new where I live. I do not dogs that much. But I understand the community likes this sort of stuff I own a property in Brompton but do not reside in the area nor do I own a dog. So my opinion may not be very relevant. However, I think it is a great idea to have a dog park that caters for both small and large dogs. Owning a pet is vital for many people and can provide great stress relief. The park also protects those people who dislike dots - to some extent. A far better choice than in close proximately to residential dwellings whilst still providing council with exposure to the rate payers and dog owners a dedicatee location where small dogs can socialise Green up park, more trees. This is too far away from us to visit regularly Much better option as away adequately from residences. Allows for expansion. Ample parking if required I am an owner of a large active dog. One feature I know would be important for most people is lighting especially in winter when it gets dark so early. Those that work till 5 - 5:30pm would be limited to weekends only unless you get into the darkness with a torch which is not safe in a big park but these are some people that do it in a desperate attempt to give their active dogs a good run during the week. I have done it myself and with dog off leash you do not feel safe. Yes, regularly use the Adelaide - North Adelaide Dog Park As I have a small Maltese aged 13 years. I most definitively would prefer to have a fenced off dog park. Separate from the large dogs, as I don't take my dog to a park where there are a mixture of large and small, as I have heard too many stories of small dogs being attacked and sometimes killed by larger ones. So I completely support your idea of a fenced park for both kinds. Firstly, many thanks to the City Services Committee for pursuing an alternative location to those initially proposed. For the same reason we oppose the Josiah Mitton location (proximity to nearby housing, transport implications, lack of parking, safety etc) the Albert Greenshields location is ideal. In fact if you hadn't proposed it we would have recommended that wary location ourselves after an extensive scoping of the neighbourhood. We do use the existing playground facilities there and do not believe this development negatively impact our use of that space. I have studied the new proposed dog park. I like the way it caters for all dog sizes. I also am happy that Josiah Mitton reserve will remain as it is. I use that park daily to exercise my dog and myself. My dog was attacked as a puppy and as a result does not cope being around many dogs at once. We have been using JM reserve for four years and have made many friends of other dogs and their owners he is ok because he's familiar with most of the dogs that use the park. I think the Albert Greenshields Reserve sounds perfect for a Dog Park. I do not have a dog now at 83 but for people who do it should be great. The proposed design with dog elements is fantastic. Great to have a small dog park option as my small dog has been attracted twice by big dogs I hope the small dog is REALLY clear that it is for small dogs only. I think this is a great value in general for our suburb We would love a local do park. Currently we attend the North Adelaide park but one with walking distance would be amazing I think it is a great idea to have a grassed small and large dog park in the area, the success of the North Adelaide park is huge and I think Ridleyton would benefit from this greatly. That would be great Looks good 1. Possibly Attract future bowlers for Croydon Bowling Club. 2. Extend dead end street into western end of bowling club to ensure off street parking ensuring residents will not get upset. Please ensure there is adequate lighting so we take our dot to the park in the evening. Both my partner and I work until 6-7pm so we need a place to exercise our dog in the evenings. This is the biggest set-back to the North Adelaide dog park. Should be for large dogs too Perhaps consider time restrictions when the dog park can be used eg from 6am to 9pm to eliminate any barking complaints. Provided that dog owners are funding capital and ongoing via increases in dog registration fees My only issue is when there is bowls on, the car park will be very busy. Is the driveway always open? I don't want people having to get their dogs out of cars on Torrens Rd if the car park is full. 1. I thing that the location originally proposed for a "small dog park" was more accessible both by walking and by vehicle than Albert Greenshield Reserve (Josiah Mitton Reserve). 2. To be really useful for timid small dogs, the small dog park should not be adjacent to an "all dog" (ie large dog) park. There are problems enough with aggressive large dogs nt the dog park on Holdbrooks Road on the Linear Park, without inflicting the same problems on small dogs in the new park. Although the two enclosures will be divided from each other by a shared fence, this will not shield timid small dogs from the aggressive behaviour which has caused problems at Holbrooks Road, the threat is enough to trouble the little fellows. As per dog park in Robe Terrace with Adelaide. Separate enclosed area for large dogs Dog parks need to be maintained regularly As a previous dog owner i fully support having access to dog park I have a Labrador and would like a big dog park. There are two small dog parks near me so a big dog park will be better than a small dog park. Animals need a place bigger than back-yards to stay fit and healthy. They also need to socialize with other dogs. I am pleased to see the animals being thought of. All animals are beautiful. They love with no conditions. I adopted my cat from RSPCA 8 years ago and she fills my heart with joy. My unit is too small to have a dog. Good choice there. Keep the big trees though! Must have some recreational park for children Brompton Green and Josiah Mitton are more centrally located and in my opinion the more suitable locations. I own a unit that will back directly onto your proposed site. My concerns are dogs barking constantly and the fact that over the years I have seen a steady decline of parkland space. Firstly it was for residential homes and now for a dog park. We need our quiet and peaceful green spaces. Unfortunately, not a great alternative for us or our kids (dogs). However any dog park in the area is beneficial to those who can utilize it but Brompton would have been far better for us. We will have to jump in the car to use this dog park so we will probably just continue to utilize the small dog park in North Adelaide. We were very excited when we thought we may have a doggy park (for over 12month old dogs within walking distance. Unfortunate for us It would be good, paved/concrete path from roads to this dog path. The reason is to make people invite this place. Because this site is far from visible road, so it would become the dark spot of the park. An excellent choice of location due to no houses on 2 sides - the park in the front of bowling club/community centre to the rear. All areas need dog parks. I'll be please have this in my area However a dog park is a extra only to be done if all other council objectives are up to date. i.e roads well maintained as well as footpath. Streets are generally looking doog - have all gas/water supplies functioning normal. Depends on actual population to use the park - as always this is a minority group for which all tax payers will ultimately pay for - thus if can find via dog users of park and council sacrifice some land for it then great. The maintenance should be low or encourage dog owners that use the park to have working bees & make it more community based. If not committed to do some work or donate some money to it then it shouldn't exist - at least not until other important community problems solved. having 2 small dogs we frequent the north Adelaide dog park and are in full support of having one closer to home Good Location, well shaded, reasonable distance from residential properties At the moment we do not own a dog, but one day when we move to Brompton we might get a small dog. I would then prefer to have a small dog area fully fenced. Good Location, well shaded, reasonable distance from residential properties Much better location and a safer option for small dog owners with a separate exercise park Good location. Well Shaded. Reasonable distance from residential area. TOO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL BOUNDRY LINE I believe that the provisions of a dog park will allow local dog owners to exercise and play with their dogs in a safe space. This will make them better neighbours as the dogs will be less bores and restless. This should also reduce unleash dogs on paths as there will be an off leash area use and enjoy the park as it is with my dogs -plenty of space to run, explore The less - central a dog park is the more likely people will drive and not walk to use it, which creates an issue with cars and parking. I do not like walking along Blight street between Hawker and Torrens I do not feel safe. In relation to concerns for residents about locating dog park in Brompton here are some things that I have realised after using the North Adelaide Dog Park 1. The dog park is rarely used after dark 2 The dogs using it rarely bark they are busy playing with each other or exploring 3.There are times throughout the day when I go that the park is empty 4. The park is used "after work" (but before dark) and on weekends. These are the busy times and there could be 20 dogs using it at any one time in each park. 5. The dogs prefer to run after balls, play with each other or run around. They aren't interested in equipment. I am amazed how much value is placed on 'Dogs'. Surely Council could put this land to better use. I do not want my rates going towards supporting such things on an ongoing basis for such a limited select population. I have 2 dogs and till see it as a clear waste of valuable ratepayers money I think we have enough parks/ gardens that people use for their dogs along Hawker street in the development near Parfit Square; the square in Chief Street, other areas I think a small dog park is a good idea but we need a park just for sports/human use unless the Council plans to clean up the grounds weekly? Not all dog owners clean up dog litter and I think the cost would be better spent on community services/ facilities that are not so 'customer' specific such as more library opening hours, or better IT services? I am not in favour of a dog park anywhere in this Ridleyton area as I believe it detracts from the area and has more negative points than positive for the whole of the community. I think the money would be better spent on installing shade over the current swing parks. Dog parks whether fenced or not put others off using the parks. I do not support a dog park, as its location is directly behind my house; I have two dogs and believe they will be constantly aware of all the other dogs which will result in constant barking/ agitation. There is also a public laneway alongside my residence which would mean an increase in dogs/ people entering the park, which again will be unsettling on my dogs. When the Council Rep knocked on my door a few weeks ago she was not even aware of the public laneway alongside my house to the park! Was this taken into consideration? This laneway would be visited by a large catchment area, namely Brompton, Ridleyton as there is no need to cross the main road. No dog park anywhere please! What measures will be taken to ensure and police users Will keep area free of dog litter and rubbish? If not you will be sure of growth of pests. Why don't Council spend more time on more important things such as the silly cargo trains blocking traffic at Hawker Street peak hour every day? I don't hate dogs. I just feel that more important things could be focused on then this. I see responsible owners walking their dogs on a leash around here and appear to be quite happy to get their exercise along with their dog without the need for the Council to spend money where not needed. N/B More important you replace the missing gate in the children’s area on Brompton reserve Dogs bark - too noisy No because the people don't pick dogs litter up hot weather it is very smelly when I go in my backyard and I am allergic to dog. I think this park is good for kids not for dogs Only if you are hell bent on wasting rate payers money as below. Use money wisely like upgrade children playground then dog park Close proximity to bowling green and new residential area Pity the dog park cannot be erected on Josiah Mitton Reserve. Dogs would only be there during the day. Regards residents concern it is only a dog park that would not be used during the night. It is not boarding kennels. Those residents are probably the first to complain if a neighbour's dog barks constantly for not being able to get some free exercise. This park is too far from my home for me to use, as I have a little dog and that would be to far for him to walk, but I do feel others would benefit from it Q 1. Additional Comments In reference to the proposed construction of Dog Park facilities in Greenshields Reserve, I do not agree with the proposal. My specific concerns in relation to the proposal are listed below. Further, I would like to be kept informed of when this proposal is scheduled to be tabled with the appropriate Committee and request the opportunity to address the meeting. -I sincerely question the need for a dog park in this area and would like to understand the rationale and justification, including any dog registration information available from Council in regard to the proposal. - Council allowed the development of housing facing a park and therefore must consider the impact on home owners and occupants in this area, especially in regard to the traffic/parking congestion and increased noise that a dog park development will create should the proposal be approved. - Further, I am concerned about the significant expense that would be incurred by rate payers if a dog park was to be constructed in this location. As such, I am interested to understand the process in which the need for this project was determined. Further, I would question the proposals consistency with the Charles Sturt Open Space Strategy. - It is my understanding that people travel many kilometres to utilse dog park facilities. As Greenshields Reserve lies very close to the north-eastern boundary of the City of Charles Sturt I would question the rationale for funding a development that will likely be utilsed by a considerable number of non-Charles Sturt ratepayers from the cities of Prospect, Adelaide and Port Adelaide Enfield. These patrons would effectively gain access to free Charles Strut facilities at the expense of Charles Sturt rate payers. - Further, given the fact that many people drive some distance to utilse dog park facilities, it stands to reason that the construction of a dog park in this location will encourage increased traffic and parking requirements in a very small cul de sac. This will ultimately result in increased noise and congestion and a decreased sense of wellbeing for those homeowners adjacent public parking facilities (within 5 metres), which should be considered by Council in any decision in regard to this proposal. - Given Greenshields Reserve is already designated as an ‘off lead’ integrated dog recreation area I would question the social and economic value of the proposal. - The proposed location as shown on the site plan indicates that a large number of trees will be removed from the park in order to make way for construction. This group of trees forms a significant portion of trees within the reserve and plays an integral role in supporting the Reserve’s thriving bird population. Further, no dimensions of the dog park are provided in this proposal. Should the project proceed I would be very interested to review this information and its potential impact on Greenshields Reserve. - Greenshields Reserve supports a large and important bird population due to its dense planting and lack of disruptive noise. The introduction of a dog park in to this environment will have a significant impact on this population due to a loss of habitat and noise emanating from the dog park location. - I note that the supplied plan shows an entrance to the dog park from the existing Council owned Bowling Club. Does this suggest that the Bowling Club car park will be open to the public and patrons encouraged to utilise this area as the primary parking solution? And if so, what restrictions would be placed on the ‘on-street’ parking areas and how would they be enforced? - Given the location of my property adjacent a roadway, public parking area and toilet facilities, I am personally concerned about the following: Having a facility available to the public twenty four hour per day, seven days per week will presumably require access to public amenities. Allowing uncontrolled access to the toilet block on Greenshields Reserve will be likely to attract antisocial and inappropriate behavior, and further increased traffic on a very small cul-de-sac which directly fronts homes (within 5 metres). Any decision made by council about this proposal should not create an unsafe environment or sense of wellbeing for people who reside in the adjacent premises. I believe this proposal will do so. A wide variety of uses currently exist within Greenshields Reserve and these will be limited by the introduction of a fenced dog park. At the time of purchase of my property the proposed use (fenced dog park) was not being pursued by Council. I believe this use will have a considerable adverse effect on the value of my property. Despite the proposals geographic location within the park, a physical separation of homeowners from the activity and noise is in my view unlikely due to the coming and going of patrons.
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